U-19 EM in switzeland

[elmubarak]

THis is a good chance to see if our youngsters have got what it takes.
the squad:

Name Geburtstag Verein
Tor
Rene Adler 15.01.85 Bayer Leverkusen
Florian Fromlowitz 02.07.86 1. FC Kaiserslautern

Abwehr
Francis Banecki 17.07.85 Werder Bremen
Alexander Huber 25.02.85 Eintracht Frankfurt
Marvin Job-Matip 25.09.85 VfL Bochum
Andreas Ottl 01.03.85 FC Bayern München
Lukas Sinkiewicz 09.10.85 1. FC Köln
Michael Stegmayer 12.01.85 FC Bayern München

Mittelfeld
Enes Alushi 22.12.85 1. FC Köln
Stephan Bork 29.01.85 FC Schalke 04
Christian Gentner 14.08.85 VfB Stuttgart
Oliver Hampel 02.03.85 Hamburger SV
Marcel Jansen 04.11.85 Borussia Mönchengladbach
Paul Thomik 25.01.85 FC Bayern München

Angriff
Aschkan Dejagah 05.07.86 Hertha BSC Berlin
Michael Delura 01.07.85 FC Schalke 04
Mario Gomez 10.07.85 VfB Stuttgart
Sahr Senesie 20.06.85 Borussia Dortmund

Auf Abruf:
Nicky Adler 23.05.85 TSV 1860 München
Tim Bauer 16.01.85 Werder Bremen
Daniyel Cimen 19.01.85 Eintracht Frankfurt
Robert Henning 07.12.85 VfB Stuttgart
Michael Kokocinski 07.02.85 TSV 1860 München
Sascha Rammel 11.03.85 Borussia Dortmund
Christopher Reinhard 19.05.85 Eintracht Frankfurt
Raphael Schaschko 07.06.85 VfB Stuttgart
Ersan Tekkan 06.01.85 VfL Bochum
Philipp Tschauner 03.11.85 1. FC Nürnberg
Jan Zimmermann 19.04.85 Eintracht Frankfurt

[Gerry_BMG]

U19 team guide: Germany
Friday, 9 July 2004 By Mark Bennett

After the disappointments of the summer with both the full national team and the Under-21s underachieving, German eyes are now fixed on the U19 squad.

Tough task
However, after being handed an extremely tough Group B draw, which places them alongside 2002 UEFA European Under-19 Championship winners Spain, Turkey and Poland, who won the tournament in 2001 in its previous incarnation as an U18 event, the Germans have their work cut out.

THE COACH:
Dieter Eilts won 31 caps for Germany and was part of the side that triumphed at UEFA EURO '96™. He spent his entire playing career with SV Werder Bremen in the Bundesliga. After his playing days he took over Bremen's U19 side before joining the German Football Association (DFB) in July last year to take over the U19 national team. In his first ten games in charge, Germany did not lose, winning six matches and drawing four.

Semi-final aim
Despite the tough group Eilts is certain that his players can make the grade and even cause an upset. "Our confidence is high because of our good run and our first goal is to finish third in the group so that we qualify for the [FIFA] World Youth Championship in the Netherlands, but we would love to make the semi-finals and show everyone what we are capable of," he said.

PLAYERS TO WATCH:
Despite losing star striker Lukas Podolski to the full national team Germany can still boast an impressive forward line. Sahr Senesie and Michael Delura are regular fixtures for BV Borussia Dortmund and FC Schalke 04 in the Bundesliga and Mario Gomez even appeared in the UEFA Champions League for VfB Stuttgart.

Excellent defence
Despite the impressive combination of pace and dedication up front Germany's true strength lies at the back. Goalkeeper René Adler not only captains the team, but leads from the back and defenders Lukas Sinkiewicz, Andreas Ottl, Michael Stegmayer and Marvin Matip-Job are all fierce competitors, who can also play a decisive role in opening up a game.

ROUTE TO THE FINALS:
Germany had no problems at all qualifying for the 2004 finals in Switzerland. In the first qualifying round they stormed past Luxembourg (6-1) and Malta (9-1) and drew 2-2 against Denmark. Their second round performance was even more impressive. Armenia were beaten 5-0, Portugal 1-0 thanks to a Delura penalty and Slovakia were Germany's final victims (2-1).



Honours in UEFA youth competitions:
UEFA European Under-16 Championship
Winners 1984 (as FDR), 1992
Runners-up 1982 (FDR), 1989 (as GDR), 1991 (FDR)
UEFA European Under-18 Championship
Winners 1981 (FDR) 1986 (GDR)
Runners-up 1998, 1994
UEFA European Under-19 Championship
Runners-up 2002



Other honours:
FIFA World Youth Championship
Winners 1981 (FDR)
Runners-up 1987 (FDR)
International Youth Tournament
Winners 1965 (GDR), 1970 (GDR)
Runners-up 1954 (FDR), 1969 (GDR), 1972 (FDR), 1973 (GDR)

[Gerry_BMG]

The midfield is not so impressive tho. Thats why I would put Delura on the right side of it. Delura and Gomez seem to be very similar. Senesie and Gomez up front would probably fit better and all three could play. Or Senesie as a playmaker. Im curious about the game tuesday

[bastian]

good team IMO just imagine if poldi would be playing for the team.....

[Gerry_BMG]

Senesie pulled out of the squad. He wants to/must play UI-Cup for Dortmund, because Koller is not available. Replacement is Nicky Adler from 1860...

[Al_the drummer]

Personally I like to see players I don't already know play in youth tournaments, we already know Delura, Gomes and Senesei are very good players and should mature into full internationals. Now we get a chance to see more unknown rookies.

The team looks strong, I'm a little disappointed that Tim Bauer of Werder Bremen isn't in the squad because he would've added flair to the midfield which yes Gerry does look weak compared to attack and defence, bloody opposite of the senior squad!

I think they will do well although we should remember Spanish teams are very strong in youth tournaments and so defeat could be on the cards I think.

[TheNameOfTheG..]

When starts this EM?

[ACBerb]

Today!

[Gerry_BMG]

Once again a proud day for german football. Deutschland-Spanien 0:3
Ich kotz mir die Buchse voll!!!!!!!!

[bastian]

don't know why , but germany always sucks in youth tournaments.....

[ACBerb]

3-1 Germany over Poland today! Lets try not to be to pessimistic!

[bastian]

15.07.2004 Deutschland - Polen (EM-Endrunde) in Fribourg 3:1 (1:1)
Aufstellung: R. Adler - Ottl (46. Huber), Sinkiewicz, Matip, Stegmayer - Bork, Hampel - Dejagah - Delura, Gomez (72. Gentner), Jansen (81. Thomik)

Tore: 0:1 Piszczek (9.), 1:1 Gomez (18.), 2:1 Dejagah (76.), 3:1 Thomik (87.)

[Al_the drummer]

Better but not without fault, up against a significantly weaker side than Spain.

Dejagah showed very nice skill in the offensive and he was the most impressive man, well done Ashkhan.

Delura is a potential superstar in my opinion, he has great pace, lovely skill and good strength and height, no apparent weakness, wonderful player.

Stegmayer did very well today, got forward and defended much better unlike his opposite side man Ottl who was absolutely awful, either he suffers from nerves or is the most untalented player ever to play for a German team I don't know.
Bork and Hampel improved but still are absolutely nothing special, the real disappointment was Mario Gomes. Despite scoring a well taken goal he looked extremely awkward in front of goal and always seemed to take one touch many, very unwilling to fight for balls and just seemed very languid and lacking in will.

Gomes reminds me heavily of Kevin Kurany, just doesn't seem to have that killer instinct to score goals, I don't rate him as a future star.

Also I've been far from impressed by Jansen on the left, technical very poor but a real hard worker and a big man so he's favoured by Eiltes over the more technically accomplished lefty Paul Thomik. The subs Thomik, Huber and Gentner look lively and I'd like to see more of them. In conclusion better but far from great.

[SAINTBASTI]

I think for every European team,the U21s are very important,but the U19s are not so important.
there would be a huge difference between a player when 21 and when 19.lets take the former Ger U21 for example,kevin kuranyi and Vorbeck heve no playing expirence for U19,U18 and so other youth teams.The only striker who have attended every ger Youth team is Benjamin Auer,but he is less accomplished than Kuranyi even Vorbeck.
Most future Ger national team players will definitly have the U21 expirence,so i think it is very important.we can see a national team"s future through his U21"quality.
We can say that ,if a nation has good u21s in a row of years ,it could have a a strongs senior team in 4-6 years,but if he dont ,and it doesnt have good U21s,it will never have a good senor team

[SAINTBASTI]

1999---2001 U21
Kehl . Borowski,Metzelder ,Willi, Ernst, Rahn , Freier,Timm, Bruns, Bierofka ,
2001---2004 U21
Wiese,Görlitz, Madlung, Schlicke, Kling,Balitsch, Tiffert,Schweinsteiger ,Hitzlsperger ,Hanke, Podolski ,Broich,
Look at the names,most of them will be the future national team members!!!
by the way,Görlitz , Broich and maybe some other players have no experience playing for U19 or u18,at the same time ,a lot of u18 and U19 players would never get into the u21!that is the point.

[SAINTBASTI]

Is jensen the best rightwinger among all ger U19 players?
I will say no without any thinking,it wont work to let a huge man be a winger!i think he will be the next dabrowski,he would hardly succeed except giving up on his position.
I think germany has a lot smaller winger with good technique and skill such as trochowski,ludwig,azzough...
He being the winger for the U19 team is only because Elitz was a techniqually averge and hardwok type player himself

[Al_the drummer]

I want to argue on this but I agree with everything you have said, it's true that the U-19s are never a great reflection on who will make the big time but yes the U-21s are and thank god the German U-21s are quite strong.

Still the whole situation with Eiltes helps to paint the picture of German coaching methods and just which sorts of players are favoured, Jansen Vs Thomik is a classic example, the big man who works his bollocks off will always be favoured over the more technically accomplished but perhaps lacking in physical stature and discipline player.

Perhaps in the 1980s these sorts of players were effective but the game has moved on considerably in terms of speed and technique and players like Jansen playing on the wings have absolutely no chance in this day and age of top flight football. Germany has to recognise these points particularly in the offensive play because many of these new offensive players coming through like Azaogah, Trochowski, Dejagbah, Delura and Podolski are not of German descent, is this simply coincidence??? Is it fukk.

[Gerry_BMG]

I have to say I start to dislike Eilts as a coach. Al is absolute right. Jansen is technical a third class player. Just fighting and showing Eilts the German spirit.
I think that Bork played quite good. Dont know what Toppmöller finds so good about Hampel... Hes a working machine in midfield. Someone we have in dozents in Germany and we dont need anymore. Dejagah still plays like hes playing against B-class opponents being a bit naive in his game. But he got nice potential. And considering his talent I can see him becoming NT player in some years time. Delura played bad yesterday but still showing his abilities.

Gomez looks like the new Olli Bierhoff, just with no finishing. He looks arrogant to a point of disgust for him from my view. And conisdering he said he roots for Spain when they face Germany I say get rid of him. If hes a good talent or if hes not. I dont care. Send him on a one way ticket to Spain.

I am really disappointed with Sinkiewicz during both games. Not that he made mistakes or was the defensive weakness. Its just that all he will ever be is a physical terminator with no techincal skills. The contrast to Matip who, despite being lightheaded from time to time, is comfortable on the ball and looks to push forward. A nice talent and a type of player we rarely see in German NTs. But overall I think the talent of the 85 vintage mainly went into Podolski with Delura and Senesie being the exceptions.

Damn, that Mauersberger and Tekkan were injured. Would have liked to see them in action.

[SAINTBASTI]

I think we need players who have excepational ability in some aspects.
Basler could score from 35m away,Hassler had so good passing and freekick,and so was Moller,Deisler can dribbles by 3 players and send the ball into the net!
11 players have look-good technique but not super will make nonsence for us ,i think.

[Al_the drummer]

Yeah I agree on Gomes, I thought he'd be the new hope for Germany as a centre forward but he hasn't got the guts to fight for balls in the air or the ability to put away simple a finish which was Bierhoff's speciality, he's officially off my list.

Your right about the defence also, Sinekwitz and Matip are the complete opposite in playing styles, if we could merge them in a genetic experiment you'd have a very good defender, Matip lacks overall defensive qualities and Sinkewitz lacks technique, but Matip has by far the more unique ability. For the next game I'd like to see Thomik and Huber start, they look decent technical players, Ottl....I'm actually lost for words on how bad he was so he's out and the 'technical monkey' Jansen from your very own Gladbach team Gerry should also be cut. Then you have the makings of quite a decent team I think.

[ACBerb]

Gerry did you say Gomez roots for Spain when they play Germany? WTF Maybe thats why we lost 3-0 when he played against them 2 games ago!