Intertoto Cup

[pyrtas]

Here are the results (2nd round)

Surprises:

Willhem II out!!
Shakhtar - out!!!

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Willem II out, what a bunch of losers :ph34r:

Let's hope Heerenveen will do a little better, they come in in the 3rd round and will play Lierse SK

[pyrtas]

and here are the pairs for the 3rd round:

FC Tobol Kostanay (KZK) v SV Pasching (AUT)
AC Perugia (ITA) v AC Allianssi (FIN)
Egaleo FC (GRE) v FC Koper (SLO)
FC Nantes Atlantique (FRA) v FC Wil 1900 (SUI)
OGC Nice (FRA) v SV Werder Bremen (GER)
Villarreal CF (ESP) v Brescia Calcio (ITA)
En Avant Guingamp (FRA) v 1. FC Brno (CZE)
FC Dacia Chisinau (MOL) v FC Schalke 04 (GER)
Real Racing Club Santander (ESP) v FC Slovan Liberec (CZE)
1. FC Synot (CZE) v VfL Wolfsburg (GER)
Tampere United (FIN) v NK Cibalia (CRO)
SC Heerenveen (HOL) v K. Lierse SK (BEL)


Nice - Werder
Villareal - Brescia
Racing - Slovan
Heerenven - Lierse

Look to be the most promising games.

[pyrtas]

3rd round - 1st leg

19/07/2003
Synot 0-1 Wolfsburg
Dacia 0-1 Schalke
Tobol 0-1 Pasching
Nantes 2-1 Wil
Heerenveen 4-1 Lierse
Guingamp 2-1 Brno
Nice 0-0 Bremen
Perugia 2-0 Allianssi
Egaleo 2-3 Koper
Racing 0-1 Liberec
Villarreal 2-0 Brescia
20/07/2003
Tampere 0-2 Cibalia

No surprises so far.....

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by pyrtas@Jul 22 2003, 05:46 PM
Heerenveen 4-1 Lierse

Looks like Heerenveen is going to get through to the semi's


I see Nantes and Guingamp having more trouble than expected.. Nantes only won 2-1 against FC Wil.. same score that Willem II had against FC Wil in the first match..

[bastian]

i hope wolsfburg shalke and bremem could get to the finals. i think at least one of these teams will go to the uefa cup

[AFCA]

Heerenveen could beat Wolfsburg and Bremen. But they could just as easily lose.

[Novio]

Originally posted by AFCA@Jul 25 2003, 11:39 AM
Heerenveen could beat Wolfsburg and Bremen. But they could just as easily lose.

Heerenveen can't play Wolfsburg or Schalke.. If the progress the will meet the winner of Egaleo vs Koper and after that the winner of Villareal/Brescia vs Guingamp/Brno

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Novio+Jul 26 2003, 02:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Novio @ Jul 26 2003, 02:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AFCA@Jul 25 2003, 11:39 AM
Heerenveen could beat Wolfsburg and Bremen. But they could just as easily lose.

Heerenveen can't play Wolfsburg or Schalke.. If the progress the will meet the winner of Egaleo vs Koper and after that the winner of Villareal/Brescia vs Guingamp/Brno [/b][/quote]
Not a bad draw for them than... I mean Egaleo and Koper.. really never heard of em..

After that it already is the final isn't it? Ah well, if they beat first Lierse and after that Egaleo or Koper (which should be possible), they can only hope they don't get Brescia... Italian teams are always hard to conquer for Dutch teams, especially for non-top 3 Dutch teams..

[Novio]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Jul 26 2003, 01:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Jul 26 2003, 01:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Novio+Jul 26 2003, 02:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Novio @ Jul 26 2003, 02:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AFCA@Jul 25 2003, 11:39 AM
Heerenveen could beat Wolfsburg and Bremen. But they could just as easily lose.

Heerenveen can't play Wolfsburg or Schalke.. If the progress the will meet the winner of Egaleo vs Koper and after that the winner of Villareal/Brescia vs Guingamp/Brno [/b][/quote]
Not a bad draw for them than... I mean Egaleo and Koper.. really never heard of em..

After that it already is the final isn't it? Ah well, if they beat first Lierse and after that Egaleo or Koper (which should be possible), they can only hope they don't get Brescia... Italian teams are always hard to conquer for Dutch teams, especially for non-top 3 Dutch teams.. [/b][/quote]
Unknown does not mean easy.. Remember Heerenveen was defeated by Varteks Varazdin a few years ago..

And I think Heerenveen should be more trouble with villareal then with Brescia.. Spanish sides are really tough for Dutch sides.. Not Italian..

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Nah, Spanish sides aren't as difficult as Italian sides.. Spanish sides play more open football, more like Dutch sides play too.. but Italian sides hardly give any space in defence, it's hard to score against them, especially for teams like Heerenveen who can only play with average strikers, and in attack Italian sides are very effective..

[Novio]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23@Jul 26 2003, 12:44 PM
Nah, Spanish sides aren't as difficult as Italian sides.. Spanish sides play more open football, more like Dutch sides play too.. but Italian sides hardly give any space in defence, it's hard to score against them, especially for teams like Heerenveen who can only play with average strikers, and in attack Italian sides are very effective..

Dutch teams always have better results against italian teams then against spanish. So where are you talking about. More open play of the spanish is only a disadvantage since the spanish teams can use the difference in quality then.

[Ollie]

No English sides in it this year.

Why not ? Fulham and Aston Villa were competing in it last season.

[FCBfurimmer]

Koper won in Egaleo greece, that was total suprise!! They seem to have the wright combination of their players; Jakomin(played for Unterhaching 2 years), Trenevski was impressing through Intertoto, score only this year about 6 goals in intertoto competion...

European Cups - Intertoto Cup
19:39 July 30&nbsp;

FT Cibalia Vinkovci 1 - 4 Wolfsburg

&nbsp; 81' SV Pasching 3 - 0 Werder Bremen (Ger)

20:00 Brno (Cze) ? - ? Villarreal (Spa)

20:00 Nantes (Fra) ? - ? Perugia (Ita)

20:00 SC Heerenveen (Hol) ? - ? NK Koper (Slo)

20:15 Schalke (Ger) ? - ? Liberec (Cze)

At the moment

As goes for Koper, they already for relegeting Zagreb, Dubnica and Egaleo they maded 200.000€ profit, a big bounch of money for a club with budget lower than 0.8m€ a year,...

[Van Der Vaart 23]

So, FCBfurimmer, how good is Koper? I suppose Heerenveen can beat them?

[Van Der Vaart 23]

wtf is wrong with Werder Bremen?!?! They lose with 4-0 against some unknown Austrian team

[Zeman]

Nantes-Perugia 0-1 goal of Di Loreto from a cross of Ze Maria

[bastian]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23@Jul 30 2003, 06:17 PM
wtf is wrong with Werder Bremen?!?! They lose with 4-0 against some unknown Austrian team

TRUE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEM , BUT IF THEY PLAY LIKE THIS THIS SEASON IT WILL BE A HORRIBLE SEASON FOR THEM

[FCBfurimmer]

They did won the opening game vs. Hertha on awaymatch. Goals came from Micoud and Ailton(pure luck),...

Wolfsburg played pretty good, but i watched the match on Eurosport, referee were whisteling fouls on D´alessandro that never occured...

herenveren-koper 2:0
Trenevski scored a post from free kick, also Jakomin wasted 2 very big chances!!!They played(koper) in slovenian national championship with Maribor(7years in the row slovenian champions).The resoult was Koper-Maribor 0:1(pekic-Nurnberg wanted to have him-but couldnt come out with the money).. referees were total disgrace, they helped Maribor to win... But Koper wasted a lot of chances, Trenevski had 3 amazing free kicks, but were miracously saved,...

You must know Koper isnt know to dropp points at home, they had 9 year unbeaten record at home, but last year they lost to maribor and 2 other teams,...

I think Koper can win this 1:0 or 2:1, but probably wont go on, but if they do, good luck,...

[FSVMainz05]

I think Schalke will play against Pasching at their final and i hope they will reach the UEFA-Cup.

Bremen lost all chances with this 4:0, it was bad to change the goalkeepers...

[FCBfurimmer]

Koper-Herenveren 1:0
Koper had big chances to advance, the most incredible thing is next, sport manager of KOper played in first XI!! Jakomin scored. As I was saying before sport manager Alfred Jermaniš played!!! And also almost scored from a free kick!!!! Trenevski didnt played, but still, koper made the biggest succes in clubs history...
For information; Koper has a budget of 500.000€, Herenverren has a budget of 16.000.000€!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!1

[Novio]

Originally posted by FCBfurimmer@Aug 7 2003, 07:12 PM
Koper-Herenveren 1:0
Koper had big chances to advance, the most incredible thing is next, sport manager of KOper played in first XI!! Jakomin scored. As I was saying before sport manager Alfred Jermaniš played!!! And also almost scored from a free kick!!!! Trenevski didnt played, but still, koper made the biggest succes in clubs history...
For information; Koper has a budget of 500.000€, Herenverren has a budget of 16.000.000€!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!1

But still out.. and according to dutch media, they didn't have so many chance after the second half started.

[FCBfurimmer]

Bozicic, jermanis, Benedejcic had big chances to score, they tried from the distance, jermanis from free kick, Jakomin on the end almost scored...

The biggest Stupido is ZNSL(slovenian league association) didnt alloved the 2 clubs Maribor and Koper, they played on 2nd/3rd a match, if they would just wait and give them a slovenian cup game with easier opponent they would have more chance, but they were both relegated,...

[Teutonic_Lorux]

Finals, 1st leg results:

Perugia vs. Wolfsburg 1-0
Herrenveen vs. Villareal 1-2
Pasching vs. Schalke 0-2


Predictions:

Schalke, Wolfburg and Herrenveen make it through.

I'm so nervous about the Schalke game.

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Teutonic_Lorux@Aug 13 2003, 09:35 AM
Schalke, Wolfburg and Heerenveen make it through.

Heerenveen??

They lost their home match with 1-2, I doubt they're going to score 2 goals over there Villareal was just a too strong opponent for them :ph34r: