Sack Jesualdo Ferreira Thread - soccer24-7.com Forums

Bossanova · Sep 30 2008, 07:33 PM

If he loses to Sporting he will be sacked or very close to it.

Opinions?

~~grassman~~ · Sep 30 2008, 07:55 PM

Agreed should have never been appointed manager in the first place. Incredibly average, should have at least gotten you to a CL 1/4 final.

Bossanova · Sep 30 2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by grassman

Agreed should have never been appointed manager in the first place. Incredibly average, should have at least gotten you to a CL 1/4 final.

We didn't have much choice when our manager walked out on us 2 weeks before the start of the season.

He's done well domestically, but in all honesty, we had the best team in Portugal the last 2 seasons, and now we don't. Simple as.

SCP-87 · Sep 30 2008, 07:59 PM

JF is not a big game coach.

how many Big teams in big matches has Porto beaten with JF at the helm?

answer = NONE

unless you count benfica as a big team, and the last two seasons they clearly werent.

CL, owned by liverpool, arsenal (its ok to lose but they were simply owned in these games), couldnt beat a inferior shalke team...etc

lost some games with sporting as well, which cost porto a couple of cups.

Bossanova · Sep 30 2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SCP-87

JF is not a big game coach.

how many Big teams in big matches has Porto beaten with JF at the helm?

answer = NONE

unless you count benfica as a big team, and the last two seasons they clearly werent.

CL, owned by liverpool, arsenal (its ok to lose but they were simply owned in these games), couldnt beat a inferior shalke team...etc

lost some games with sporting as well, which cost porto a couple of cups.

We weren't owned at anfield, it was 1-1 until 78 mins, we just collapsed. That is our problem..we collapse.

Oh and we beat some big-ish teams...Benfica, Sporting, Marseille...but always at home...benfica and besiktas away

We suck away from home, we really do, and JF sucks in these matches its true.

SCP-87 · Sep 30 2008, 08:57 PM

benfica, marseille, besiktas werent big teams. if tarik can dribble half your team and score you arent a big team. besiktas is turkish and turks always get owned their whole history by portugal in soccer. Benfica wasnt any good last two seasons , especially their infamous 4th placed effort last year. now they bought a new team so i think they are better. ill give you sporting, they are simply majestic.

~~grassman~~ · Sep 30 2008, 09:28 PM

You think its time for a best signings thread yet boss? Or should we wait a few more weeks

Hurley · Sep 30 2008, 09:43 PM

he should leave yes. won't mind if he stays until the end of the season, but we'd be better with someone who can instill a winning mentality on the team.

nicodemus · Sep 30 2008, 10:11 PM

Who to replace him though?

~~Simaofan-20~~ · Sep 30 2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SCP-87

JF is not a big game coach.

how many Big teams in big matches has Porto beaten with JF at the helm?

answer = NONE

unless you count benfica as a big team, and the last two seasons they clearly werent.

CL, owned by liverpool, arsenal (its ok to lose but they were simply owned in these games), couldnt beat a inferior shalke team...etc

lost some games with sporting as well, which cost porto a couple of cups.

He has beaten Sporting before lol

~~Simaofan-20~~ · Sep 30 2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SCP-87

benfica, marseille, besiktas werent big teams. if tarik can dribble half your team and score you arent a big team. besiktas is turkish and turks always get owned their whole history by portugal in soccer. Benfica wasnt any good last two seasons , especially their infamous 4th placed effort last year. now they bought a new team so i think they are better. ill give you sporting, they are simply majestic.

Tarik never played well against us lol or even dribbled past our defenders where do you come up with this stuff?LOL

SCP-87 · Sep 30 2008, 11:39 PM

maybe like 2 times at the most hes beaten sporting out of like prlly 6 or 7 matches

~~Simaofan-20~~ · Sep 30 2008, 11:41 PM

He still won thats all that matters. You say he hasn't beaten big teams well he has just not often. He manages Porto like they are Braga. He's a little too afraid to attack because he doesn't want to be caught on the counter

SCP-87 · Sep 30 2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Simaofan-20

Tarik never played well against us lol or even dribbled past our defenders where do you come up with this stuff?LOL

im referring to Porto v Marseilles last season

here is simao fan approved video evidence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWJsdLGIMWw

the point was, Bossanova listed marseilles as a big team. any team that lets tarik score a goal like that on them loses the right to be called a big team in my books.

marseilles = french = garbage. if its a team from france not called lyon than you are worthelss.

Bossanova · Oct 1 2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurley

he should leave yes. won't mind if he stays until the end of the season, but we'd be better with someone who can instill a winning mentality on the team.

I think if we sack him mid-season we are doomed.

I'll only want him sacked if we really drop off the pace in the league. Because sacking him will make this season a repeat of 2004/5 for sure.

End of the season he has to go, I just hope he can last until then

I also really see nobody to replace him (in Portugal at least, and definitely not mid-season anywhere), so its in our best interests to try and wait until the end of season to get rid of him.

I honestly wouldn't mind getting Paulo Bento once he gets sacked from Sporting (seems kinda inevitable too, despite his good work)

Saying this, 0-0 at HT vs Basle, not a good result for Sporting either. But its only the first half.

~~Simaofan-20~~ · Oct 1 2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SCP-87

im referring to Porto v Marseilles last season

here is simao fan approved video evidence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWJsdLGIMWw

the point was, Bossanova listed marseilles as a big team. any team that lets tarik score a goal like that on them loses the right to be called a big team in my books.

marseilles = french = garbage. if its a team from france not called lyon than you are worthelss.

I was talking more about him apparently doing well against Benfica and dribbling past our players when he didn't

Bluedragon · Oct 2 2008, 10:30 AM

Never liked JF, and I agree with most of what you guys have written, I think in the CL when Porto players away he goes in with a negative attitude, meaning makes Porto play Defensive.

Anyone in the world knows that you can't go to Arsenal and play defensively...if you let Arsenal play then get used to pick the ball out of the net a few times.

Nut who would come at coach Porto or any Portuguese team, hopefully someone who likes to attack

Hurley · Oct 2 2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossanova

I think if we sack him mid-season we are doomed.

I'll only want him sacked if we really drop off the pace in the league. Because sacking him will make this season a repeat of 2004/5 for sure.

End of the season he has to go, I just hope he can last until then

I also really see nobody to replace him (in Portugal at least, and definitely not mid-season anywhere), so its in our best interests to try and wait until the end of season to get rid of him.

I honestly wouldn't mind getting Paulo Bento once he gets sacked from Sporting (seems kinda inevitable too, despite his good work)

Saying this, 0-0 at HT vs Basle, not a good result for Sporting either. But its only the first half.

Peseiro over him. played much better football with an inferior squad.

but the best would be a big foreign coach.

Bossanova · Oct 2 2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurley

Peseiro over him. played much better football with an inferior squad.

but the best would be a big foreign coach.

Can't think of many who we could afford/would want to come.

Laszlo Boloni? He's doing ok for now

I rated Peseiro alot before his move to Panathinaikos, but a few of their fans really disliked him (he came 2nd in league) and he's mid-table with Rapid now.

Do you have any managers in mind?

~~Simaofan-20~~ · Oct 2 2008, 06:46 PM

Look in Brazil?

Bossanova · Oct 2 2008, 06:56 PM

Man those brazucas often flop in Portugal, can't remember the last to pick up a big 3 team and do well

~~grassman~~ · Oct 2 2008, 08:23 PM

The return of Fernando Santos =O
Lulz

Bossanova · Oct 21 2008, 07:32 PM

~~grassman~~ · Oct 21 2008, 08:13 PM

Well it's gonna happen soon =|
Probably around the next International fixtures

Almost time for teh return of Fernando Santos

Bossanova · Oct 21 2008, 08:27 PM

Its quite depressing actually.

I can't see an alternatives in the market.