Feyenoord Reformed!

[OrCristian]

Finally, now the transfer market is open again, Feyenoord will reform it's team. It's quite sure Kalou (right winger) moves to Auxerre, Pierre van Hooijdonk (striker) doesn't want to stay with us, and Emerton (right defender) is on the edge of leaving to Newcastle United.

About Emerton and Kalou, I won't be worried, we have good back ups for them, like Song, Gyan (underrated defender, one of the stars of the UEFA Cup final last year) and maybe even Pieter Collen who was loaned to NAC Breda. They can replace Emerton. Then we have Kalou's little brother Salomon for his place, he is said to be better than Bonaventure Kalou. Plus we have Van Persie, Leonardo, Smolarek, Pardo and Lurling for the left winger position, some of them have already shown they can also play right winger.

About Van Hooijdonk tough, I am worried, as you can imagine. Feyenoord was heavily depending on his free kicks, altough we've got Van Persie too, he is very good at free kicks, and so are our Japanese star Shinji Ono and Patrick Paauwe. But Van Hooijdonk was not only so important because of his free kicks, also because of his appearance. Defenders would take extra care with him, so other players are more free to move. Especially Thomas Buffel, the Belgian revelation of the season, had a lot of profit from this, finishing just behind Kezman, Van Hooijdonk and Dirk Kuijt (our new striker) in last years topscorer "chart".

For Van Hooijdonk, I hope we have found the right man, namely Dirk Kuijt, from FC Utrecht. He was voted "Player of the Season" by Voetbal International, Holland's most respected football magazine. He scored 20 goals last season, and contributed heavily in Utreg's Cup Victory. Also, he is hard working, and he will fit in the Feyenoord team excellently.

The only thing Feyenoord has to do, is invest in the defense. Van Wonderen is the only player in our defense who doesn't make a mistake each and every match. Paauwe and Emerton are not the most reliable players, neither are Rzasa (leaving) and Loovens (too young).

A lot of names were in the papers/websites linked to Feyenoord, like Fatih Akyel (Turkish) Miyamoto (Japanese) and several Dutch and South American players.

I am very anxious about the future of Feyenoord, wether the right players will be bought, and wether other players (like Jorge Acuna and Shinji Ono)can take te leading position of Van Hooijdonk!

[Blue]

Good luck on what seems to be a big transitional time for your club.
As for Van Hooijdonk I dont have time for him at all....he is a typical football mercenary who quite often doesnt give a damn who hes playing for as long as the money is right imo.

[Interista]

Originally posted by USA Blue@Jun 30 2003, 06:17 PM
As for Van Hooijdonk I dont have time for him at all....he is a typical football mercenary who quite often doesnt give a damn who hes playing for as long as the money is right imo.

Well said, but I'm afraid he isn't the only one nowadays.

But if Feyenoord is going to sell him they need someone who can make a lot of goals. Somebody who has a good technique and a good sense of positioning. I don't think Kuyt will be the ideal replacement. He is a hard working fellow but he hasn't the technique or the positioning of by example a Kezman. The same can be applied for Buffel. These two hard working strikers probably will not be very succesfull for Feyenoord I'm afraid, maybe van Persie can equal the deficit of technical quality in the attack.

[Knoert]

Feyenoord will be again the third Dutch team again next year, after Ajax and PSV.

But don't worry, you've got one of the best Eredivisie-players, Dirk Kuijt, really a great player, trust me!

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Well, Kalou looks 99% certain to leave since feyenoord and Auxerre have already agreed terms, now only Kalou has to agree terms with Auxerre to make the deal complete. That won't be much of a problem I think, especially since Kalou is eager to leave, he can't wait, so he won't ask for too much I reckon..

If PvH goes too, it would be perfect... feyenoords 2 most important players leaving.. Without them feyenoord has 0.1% chances of winning the title. With those 2 they might've surprised next year, but without these 2 I don't give em much chance of winning the title, it would be better for Feyenoord to look behind them instead of looking above them...

v.Hooijdonk is too important for feyenoord, without him feyenoord isn't that much. No one can replace him in the current feyenoord squad, Elmander seems to me the best possible replacement, but feyenoord doesn't seem to recognize his talent. Kalou is also very hard to replace, Song could replace him, but he is another type than Kalou. Kalou is individually very strong, he can play defenses apart, Song can't do that. Song is more a teamplayer, individually not as strong as Kalou. An advantage for Song is that he is more consistent, Kalou is pretty inconsistant and when he's not in form his selfishness works against the team since he'll lose about every ball, his moves won't work... Nevertheless, feyenoord can't replace Kalou in form unless his little brother is as good as Kalou himself says..

About Emerton, if he leaves too, feyenoord is going to be a joke, as far as they're aren't a joke already..

[The Utrecht West Ham Connection]

Ajax wanted to buy him

He said it wasn't a real good idea

[coobek]

How is Smolarek doing after his injury?

I hope Feyenoord will find good subs esspecialy for PvH whom I do not like really.

[OrCristian]

Well, Kalou wasn't that good of a player, yeah sometimes, but a player like Bosvelt and Ono are much more important to the team. Feyenoord has never been in this situation, in which they depend so heavily on one player, Van Hooijdonk. Normally, Feyenoord is dependant on the team as a whole. We'll see about title chances, it depends on new players coming to Rotterdam this summer...

[footie_master]

those players are certainly going to leave a big gap in the squad thats for sure.

i am curious how the will perform at the start of the season though

[OrCristian]

Originally posted by coobek@Jul 1 2003, 07:02 AM
How is Smolarek doing after his injury?

I hope Feyenoord will find good subs esspecialy for PvH whom I do not like really.

Sorry, didn't see your question yet. I don't really know about Smolarek yet, hope he will make his comeback next season!

[KaBbAtIcAl]

It's not certain that van Hooijdonk is leaving the club. It will be a sure dissapointment; at this moment the team of Feyenoord depends fully on his goals. On the other hand, he's not that much of a very good footballplayer. He's not that fast, he's almost never present in the box with crosses, he's important at set pieces and through his appearance, but he is replaceable, like every footballplayer. Feyenoord has to concentrate on the real basics in football. They need more structure. We play really offensive football, this despite the weak defence. I think it would be very wise to focus on a good defence, with Dirk Kuijt we've bought a fantastic player, who's fast, really box-minded, not selfish and has an enormous willpower. So, there is a future, we have to be realistic. If Emerton leaves, Song will replace him, that won't be a set-back, I don't see, at this moment, a replacement for fantastic Bona within the club, nobody in the world has got his elastic legs and his brilliant technique, on the other hand Bona has always had 10 to 15 games in the season when he's absolutely out of form. I think it's necessary to contract a player for his position. Actually, I don't understand why he's going to Auxerre, it's not a real great club is it, he's not moving up in his career by making this move. I understood that he wanted a change, he wanted to leave Feyenoord, but I doubt the succesfullness of his careermove.

Feyenoord always relied on their will to fight. In order to fight and to achieve results, there must be a clear structure, I think mister Baan and van Marwijk should concentrate on that. With Bosvelt, Ono, Lodewijks, Buffel, Acuna, van Persie, Song and Kuijt they are already really competetive. Let's hope that they'll find a centre-back, a left-back and a rightwinger and we're in for a new race, just like the second half of the season.

[OrCristian]

More news: Emerton will not move to Newcastle, but it's quite certain he will move, since he is in negotiations with 3 other Premier League clubs!

[Dibbes]

you might be right about emerton, he is not so important. There will be other good players. the young brother of Kalou could be a good replacement I heard. And Dirk Kuyt is also a good replacement i believe. he already made 20 goals, and now he will develope a lot, he can only score more goals with better players around him, if he plays. I think it isn't so bad with feyenoord.

but Gyan is defenitely not a good player if you ask me. Why do you like him so much?

[The Utrecht West Ham Connection]

Gyan is a defender even Utrecht wouldn't use.

Emerton hasn't been a great player for Feyenoord, whit his quality's he has got to score more then his 2 odd goals.

[pyrtas]

Hey!! what about Rzasa? He left for Partizan Belgrade to learn from Mattheous.

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by pyrtas@Jul 4 2003, 09:10 AM
Hey!! what about Rzasa? He left for Partizan Belgrade to learn from Mattheous.

yeah, pretty fu¢ked up he left, was always fun seeing him "play"

[FCBfurimmer]

Rzasa is leaving with a free transfer, or different. I saw it on some website, but it never occure to me, he would go to Beograd?????

V. Hooijdonk is unreplaceble, if I like Feyenors just a little, my feelings without him will be same with zero. Is he going with an expensive transfer or is it a free transfer. Sice I´ve heard, Barca is looking new mendieta, and his freekicks would do nice for Nou cAMP

[Lorenzos dad]

I am sure that Dirk Kijt will do the business.

To quote KaBbAticAl says "we've bought a fantastic player, who's fast, really box-minded, not selfish and has an enormous willpower". We will miss him at Utrecht.

I have no tome for van Hooijdonk (as a person) he went on strike at Forest but is now suing them for an unpaid loyalty bonus!

[OrCristian]

News: Feyenoord is on the verge of signing Yugoslavian 20-year old striker Danko Lazovic from Partizan Belgrade. Anybody got information about him?

Well, he is said to be a great talent, but what we need is a good defender (or two)!

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by OrCristian@Jul 5 2003, 03:59 AM
News: Feyenoord is on the verge of signing Yugoslavian 20-year old striker Danko Lazovic from Partizan Belgrade. Anybody got information about him?

Well, he is said to be a great talent, but what we need is a good defender (or two)!

I read Feyenoord were chasing Peter van den Berg from RKC

Is going to be a nice young and fast central defense v.wonderen - v/d Berg

[Interista]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Jul 5 2003, 11:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Jul 5 2003, 11:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OrCristian@Jul 5 2003, 03:59 AM
News: Feyenoord is on the verge of signing Yugoslavian 20-year old striker Danko Lazovic from Partizan Belgrade. Anybody got information about him?

Well, he is said to be a great talent, but what we need is a good defender (or two)!

I read Feyenoord were chasing Peter van den Berg from RKC

Is going to be a nice young and fast central defense v.wonderen - v/d Berg [/b][/quote]
I would be carefull if I were you VDV. Internazionale might buy all your good players so that Ajax defense probably even is even worser then Feyenoords

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Interista+Jul 5 2003, 05:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Interista @ Jul 5 2003, 05:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Van Der Vaart 23+Jul 5 2003, 11:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Jul 5 2003, 11:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OrCristian@Jul 5 2003, 03:59 AM
News: Feyenoord is on the verge of signing Yugoslavian 20-year old striker Danko Lazovic from Partizan Belgrade. Anybody got information about him?

Well, he is said to be a great talent, but what we need is a good defender (or two)!

I read Feyenoord were chasing Peter van den Berg from RKC

Is going to be a nice young and fast central defense v.wonderen - v/d Berg [/b][/quote]
I would be carefull if I were you VDV. Internazionale might buy all your good players so that Ajax defense probably even is even worser then Feyenoords [/b][/quote]
Chivu is not our only good player as you well know..

[Womble Til I Die]

Originally posted by OrCristian@Jul 5 2003, 01:59 AM
News: Feyenoord is on the verge of signing Yugoslavian 20-year old striker Danko Lazovic from Partizan Belgrade. Anybody got information about him?

Well, he is said to be a great talent, but what we need is a good defender (or two)!

Nothing wrong with the defence in general apart from one position - left back. That is where the weakness lies.
(apart from the offloading of de Haan during the winterstop last season).

[OrCristian]

Originally posted by Womble Til I Die+Jul 6 2003, 10:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Womble Til I Die @ Jul 6 2003, 10:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OrCristian@Jul 5 2003, 01:59 AM
News: Feyenoord is on the verge of signing Yugoslavian 20-year old striker Danko Lazovic from Partizan Belgrade. Anybody got information about him?

Well, he is said to be a great talent, but what we need is a good defender (or two)!

Nothing wrong with the defence in general apart from one position - left back. That is where the weakness lies.
(apart from the offloading of de Haan during the winterstop last season). [/b][/quote]
Nothing wrong with defence? Have you seen the match against FC Utrecht?

[Womble Til I Die]

Originally posted by OrCristian+Jul 10 2003, 10:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OrCristian @ Jul 10 2003, 10:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Womble Til I Die@Jul 6 2003, 10:53 PM
Nothing wrong with the defence in general apart from one position - left back. That is where the weakness lies.
(apart from the offloading of de Haan during the winterstop last season).

Nothing wrong with defence? Have you seen the match against FC Utrecht? [/b][/quote]
Didn't see all of the game. I left the ground when the 4th Utreg goal was scored and tried to find somewhere to drown my sorrows.....

I've found a quote on another topic, posted by me within minutes of the one above (Might have been something to do the beer that I contradacted myself and no one noticed).

Plenty of attacking options, but the defence could be a bit rusty next season, although I hope not...

I still remain of the opinion that the left back position is (and has been for a number of years) the weak spot.
Perhaps, I'll rephrase the comment.
There is nothing wrong with the defence in league games. but the central defence positions are going to be needed to be sorted out shortly. K van Wonderboy is knocking on a bit, Pauuwe I think prefers midfield. Emerton has gone. de Nooijer is a short term buy. Loovens lack experience (that can only be gained by playing).
In the absence of any signings (and it there were, I probably wouldn't know them anyway) I think the best back four at the moment would be
Song, van Wonderen, Loovens, Paauwe.
Depends on the fitness or ortherwise of Collen or Gyan and van Haaren.