ajax captain

[soccerchic]

a question for the ajax fans. who's going to become the new ajax captain, since chivu and witschge are leaving?? i'm thinking van der vaart, but maybe he's still a bit too young for that?

[Knoert]

Maybe Galasek or indeed Van der Vaart.

[Zlatan]

maybe Zlatan!!
Why not?

[Red]

ZLATAN

NO WAY!!!!!!!
he has no leading capacities in a team, he can not give the lead to any team and he stays not every match in the base team . . .

If Chivu is leaving, VDV or Galacek becomes the new captain, but I still think that Chivu stays in Amsterdam

he said last week to the local Amsterdam tv station that he is staying with Koeman, he will folow Koeman's directions, so if Koeman is leaving Chivu is leaving to, but if Koeman stays he stays to. and Koeman is going nowwhere so Chivu is staying to

[soccerchic]

why does chivu have to follow koeman wherever he goes?
it's a shame he won't be coming to barca anymore, because if what you said is true then chivu would come too.... :crying
since inter are the top candidates for chivu maybe koeman will join inter too! to replace cuper :Kenzo's Smiley

[Fins Prompte]

I recall that Galasek was the captain until Chivu arrived, or am I wrong?

[Van Der Vaart 23]

1) It's still not sure Chivu is leaving
2) Chivu said that he likes to stay with Koeman, but it doesn't mean he doesn't want to go if Koeman stays. If a club offers 19 million for Chivu he's gone.. But Chivu doesn't mind staying
3) If Chivu leaves, VDV will be the new captain I assume, Rafael already has been the captain a few times this year, so I guess he'll be the captain in case Chivu leaves..
4) IBES; Galasek has been the captain before Chivu took over, when Galasek was captain he wasn't playing too well, he got injured than. When he came back Koeman wanted him to be the captain again. Galasek said he couldn't focus on his own game if he was the captain, so he didn't want to be the captain again.. So Chivu remained being the captain.

[Fins Prompte]

Oh yeah, I remember that now. Thanks for refreshing my memory.

[Interista]

Chivu has signed a contract with Inter.

However Inter and Ajax don't have an agreement yet, but I think that is just a matter of time. It is not good when a player is forced to stay at a club when he wants to go to a new club

Koeman isn't in the picture as a possible replacement for Cuper, and I personally don't think he would be a good replacement. I don't want Inter to end like Barca, with a lot of useless Dutch players

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Interista@Jun 25 2003, 05:49 PM
Chivu has signed a contract with Inter.

However Inter and Ajax don't have an agreement yet, but I think that is just a matter of time. It is not good when a player is forced to stay at a club when he wants to go to a new club

Koeman isn't in the picture as a possible replacement for Cuper, and I personally don't think he would be a good replacement. I don't want Inter to end like Barca, with a lot of useless Dutch players

I don't think Barca has a lot of useless Dutch players, the only one is Reiziger, the others are already sold. Frank de Boer, Cocu, Overmars and Kluivert aren't useless, they are the most important players of Barca..

About Chivu: I fear he'll go to Inter, but you never know, he only has 5 days left to find a new club. Till now the transfer fee has been too high for Inter's liking.. let's hope it stays that way..

[Interista]

I don't think this is the place to have a long discussion about Barcelona players. I called them useles because Kluivert missed too many chances, De Boer makes too many mistakes and Reiziger is completely passed it. I only consider Cocu as a usefull player. You always talk about average players. Well all three are average players for me and aren't good enough to replace any of the players Inter now has.

[OrCristian]

Originally posted by Interista@Jun 25 2003, 04:41 PM
I don't think this is the place to have a long discussion about Barcelona players. I called them useles because Kluivert missed too many chances, De Boer makes too many mistakes and Reiziger is completely passed it. I only consider Cocu as a usefull player. You always talk about average players. Well all three are average players for me and aren't good enough to replace any of the players Inter now has.

Sorry, want to react on that, because you are right. I think the Dutch are the reason why Barcelona is doing so bad last few years. Frank de Boer is the most overrated defender in the world, Kluivert is just an arrogant and Reiziger? Who the is Reiziger? Cocu and Overmars are good players, though.

[Pienaar Magic]

Well, it's for a Feyenoordfan always easier to talk about former Ajax players because former Feyenoord players are alwys doing better in another club than Feyenoord.

Back to the topic: Reiziger is indeed past it, but Overmars still got it if you take his age into considderation. De Boer should go to an English club to make some money in the fall of his career, but I really can't understand why people are underestimating Kluivert. In the Dutch national team, he's, at his age, topscorer of all times. He just had a bad year. So? Every striker has one.

Inter-fans shouldn't be affraid about Koeman coming to Inter and buying Dutch players: Koeman shall go to Spain first and the talented Dutch players can be too expensive for Inter. If that club is already complaining that Chivu is too expensive and that Ajax doesn't want to trade players, well, players like Van Persie, Buffel, Van der Vaart, Pienaar, Sneijder, Van Bommel, etc, will be impossible to get too.

Bt one thing is for sure: if Inter gets Chivu, you'll have a very good player in the team. I hope Cuper can communicate with him the way Koeman can.

[soccerchic]

Chivu said that he likes to stay with Koeman

he's just like a big baby who needs his daddy to hold his hand

Koeman isn't in the picture as a possible replacement for Cuper, and I personally don't think he would be a good replacement. I don't want Inter to end like Barca, with a lot of useless Dutch players

i think koeman will be perfect for inter :USA_Blue's_Smiley that's why i say he should join. i don't think he'll bring any useless dutch players to the team. he's more for young players. he'll change inter's style of play for the better, and maybe vdv can become an inter fan!

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by soccerchic@Jun 26 2003, 12:28 AM

he's just like a big baby who needs his daddy to hold his hand

trust me, he doesn't.. Christian lost his father when he was young, he knows very well how to stand on his own..

i think koeman will be perfect for inter  :USA_Blue's_Smiley that's why i say he should join. i don't think he'll bring any useless dutch players to the team. he's more for young players. he'll change inter's style of play for the better, and maybe vdv can become an inter fan! 

Who knows huh, I like attractive football... But I don't only hate Inter for their boring defensive football, but also for the annoying players they have, Emre, Conceicao, Materazzi etc aren't my favourite players..

[soccerchic]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Jun 26 2003, 08:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Jun 26 2003, 08:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-soccerchic@Jun 26 2003, 12:28 AM

he's just like a big baby who needs his daddy to hold his hand

trust me, he doesn't.. Christian lost his father when he was young, he knows very well how to stand on his own..

[/b][/quote]
damn....poor bugger :crying maybe that's why he sees koeman as a father figure

btw, do you think coaches can prevent players from diving so much. because i know for a fact that they can teach their players to become world class divers

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by soccerchic+Jun 26 2003, 12:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Jun 26 2003, 12:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Van Der Vaart 23+Jun 26 2003, 08:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Jun 26 2003, 08:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-soccerchic@Jun 26 2003, 12:28 AM

he's just like a big baby who needs his daddy to hold his hand

trust me, he doesn't.. Christian lost his father when he was young, he knows very well how to stand on his own..

[/b][/quote]
damn....poor bugger :crying maybe that's why he sees koeman as a father figure [/b][/quote]
Nah, cause he lost his father young, he learned to stand on his own feet when he was young, he doesn't need a fatherfigure.. Maybe if Koeman was the one who got him to Ajax, he would've seen Koeman a bit as a father figure, but when Cristian came to Ajax Koeman wasn't at Ajax, in fact, I think Koeman was playing for Feyenoord when Cristian came to Ajax.

Cristian just thinks Koeman is a good trainer.. He can get along well with him, that's why he would like to keep Koeman as his trainer..

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by soccerchic@Jun 26 2003, 12:52 AM
btw, do you think coaches can prevent players from diving so much. because i know for a fact that they can teach their players to become world class divers&nbsp; &nbsp;

who do you know that taught his players to dive than?

I dunno which coach teaches that to his team.. although Lothar Matheus might just teach that to whoever he's coaching :ph34r:

Coaches can't really prevent it, but if they say that they shouldn't do that, I suppose they won't do it that much.

[soccerchic]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23@Jun 26 2003, 09:00 AM
in fact, I think Koeman was playing for Feyenoord when Cristian came to Ajax.

Cristian just thinks Koeman is a good trainer.. He can get along well with him, that's why he would like to keep Koeman as his trainer..

WHAT THE?????????
how long has chivu been at ajax for????? 15 years??

who do you know that taught his players to dive than?

i watched a documentary about coaching and it said that a lot of coaches actually teach their players to dive.

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by soccerchic+Jun 26 2003, 01:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Jun 26 2003, 01:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Van Der Vaart 23@Jun 26 2003, 09:00 AM
in fact, I think Koeman was playing for Feyenoord when Cristian came to Ajax.

Cristian just thinks Koeman is a good trainer.. He can get along well with him, that's why he would like to keep Koeman as his trainer..

WHAT THE?????????
how long has chivu been at ajax for????? 15 years??

who do you know that taught his players to dive than?

i watched a documentary about coaching and it said that a lot of coaches actually teach their players to dive. [/b][/quote]
since 1999

well, ok, Koeman wasn't at feyenoord anymore than, he already quit football some years.. but he wasn't near Ajax back than..

[soccerchic]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Jun 26 2003, 09:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Jun 26 2003, 09:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-soccerchic+Jun 26 2003, 01:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Jun 26 2003, 01:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Van Der Vaart 23@Jun 26 2003, 09:00 AM
in fact, I think Koeman was playing for Feyenoord when Cristian came to Ajax.

Cristian just thinks Koeman is a good trainer.. He can get along well with him, that's why he would like to keep Koeman as his trainer..

WHAT THE?????????
how long has chivu been at ajax for????? 15 years??

who do you know that taught his players to dive than?

i watched a documentary about coaching and it said that a lot of coaches actually teach their players to dive. [/b][/quote]
since 1999

well, ok, Koeman wasn't at feyenoord anymore than, he already quit football some years.. but he wasn't near Ajax back than.. [/b][/quote]

he wasn't anywhere near ajax because he was with us....
you're confusing me

[Interista]

Who knows huh, I like attractive football... But I don't only hate Inter for their boring defensive football, but also for the annoying players they have, Emre, Conceicao, Materazzi etc aren't my favourite players..

Watch your words VDV, I might hold you on that since Materazzi and Conceicao will properly be sold and Emre might be exchanged for Aimar. You practically already can buy an Inter shirt

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Interista@Jun 26 2003, 01:09 PM

Watch your words VDV, I might hold you on that since Materazzi and Conceicao will properly be sold and Emre might be exchanged for Aimar. You practically already can buy an Inter shirt

I already have one.. :ph34r:

got it from someone a few years ago...

[OrCristian]

Hmm I liked Inter, about a year ago in the semi final

By the way, van der vaart 23, congratulations with all the prizes you guys have won this season

but on topic:

I think ajax, unlike Feyenoord, have enough money to invest in new players, and even to buy a good, older, experienced player to take the captain position.

From this selection of ajax, I think Sneijder will be a good captain in a few years.

[Interista]

Why not make Andy vd Meyde captain. I don't see him leaving Ajax this season.

By the way Feyenoord was just lucky that Ivan Cordoba made an own goal, just like he did against Ajax