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Roma coach Fabio Capello has asked club president Franco Sensi to buy Manchester United's David Beckham.
The England captain has been linked with almost all of Europe's biggest clubs in recent months, as speculation increases that Manchester United are now prepared to cash in on their prize asset.
Roma have disappointed this season in Serie A as they only managed to finish eighth in the table, however Capello has identified Beckham as a player who can give the club a lift.
"I want Sensi to buy Beckham," Capello told Gazzetta dello Sport.
Beckham's pop star wife Victoria would likely jump at the chance to move to Rome, although whether the player himself would be prepared to leave his beloved Old Trafford for a club not in the Champions League remains to be seen.
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Jun 1 2003, 07:13 PM
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His love for his wife must be really big if he would go to Roma. But I don't think that ever will happen because Roma simple can not afford Beckham or they must swap/sell Francesco Totti. Roma better can acquire the services of Mendieta or van der Meyde, they are a lot cheaper.
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Jun 2 2003, 09:07 AM
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Jun 2 2003, 09:19 AM
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I don't know from where he shall get the money, but if he really gets the 4 players Capello wants, than Roma shall be one of the front runners next season.
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Jun 2 2003, 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Zizou@Jun 2 2003, 12:19 PM
[b] I don't know from where he shall get the money, but if[\B] he really gets the 4 players Capello wants, than Roma shall be one of the front runners next season.
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That's a very big IF 
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Jun 2 2003, 11:11 AM
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True, but let's just give him the benefit of the doubt. If he succeeds in landing 4 star players than fair play to him.
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Jun 2 2003, 11:57 AM
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Inter always sign star players but still we have to wait for our 14th scudetto. So if Roma would sign these four player that still doesn't mean Roma will be competitive. I still have to see whether Beckham can make the same performence in Roma then he did the last couple of years in Manchester. I don't think so. Looking in the past ten years, was there any English player who succeeded in Italy and stayed there for a couple of years? The only player who did play quite frequently at one of the top teams was Paul Ince at Inter +/- 6 years ago. But he didn't won anything (although I still can remember his performance in the Coppa Italia Juventus - Inter 0-3). English players aren't used to play so defensively like Roma likes to play. They even play more defensively then Inter! No way Beckham will make it there.
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Jun 2 2003, 12:00 PM
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Juve - Inter 0-3? When did that happen?  Well it was just a coppa italia so it might have happened
The best british player ever to play in italy? John Charles (the good giant)
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Jun 2 2003, 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by Zizou@Jun 2 2003, 01:00 PM
Juve - Inter 0-3? When did that happen? Well it was just a coppa italia so it might have happened 
The best british player ever to play in italy? John Charles (the good giant)
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Didn't ya remember anymore ZZ. Must have blocked it out of your mind then  Happened when Roy Hodgson was still coach and it was Youri Djorkaeff's and Zidane's first season in Italy.
You have to admit ZZ there aren't many English players who made it in the Serie A. Most of them failed
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Jun 2 2003, 12:37 PM
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Yep that's why I said John Charles. Along with Sivori in the 60s, they would score 50goals+ per season
Apart from him, I really can't remember good quality british players, example Ian Rush (terrible).
However players like Brady did fare well.
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Jun 2 2003, 01:42 PM
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if he goes 2 roma he'll have 2 cope with a coach like capello fergie is better than him
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Jun 2 2003, 06:06 PM
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I disgree. Capello has a complete different view towards football then Fergie, so you can't base you decision on their tacticals because that wouldn't be fair to either of them. You should just them on their results.
I think Capello is (used to be) the better coach. He has won many trophies with clubs like Milan, Real Madrid and also with a relative little club like AS Roma. Fergie only won with Manchester, and didn't had to adjust rapidly to new environment and players.
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Jun 2 2003, 08:48 PM
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What are you talkin about Interista? Hasn't had to cope with new players!?! He's been there for sixteen years - you tellin me that he's only had one set of players to work with
Hasn't had to deal with changing environments - what about when the Arses won the Premier League title in '98 - you think it happened by magic that we won the Treble the next year?  . And again last year when they won it again - we had to haul back 8 points to win it by 5 points this year ( a total of 13 points we pulled back )
And when he managed Aberdeen - OK, so they're Scottish - but still, he took a squad of ONLY 15 - yes 15 players! to the Scottish Premier League title. And correct me if I'm wrong somebody, but I THINK they won the Uefa cup or the European Cup (the old Champions League) too, while he was there.
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Jun 3 2003, 06:05 AM
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First of all Aberteen never won the European Cup I, CL, or UEFA Cup . Just look at the records. Second of all I said Fergie didn't had to adjust rapidly, with the emphasis on rapidly. He didn't had to cope with a complete new team and a complete new board. Off course your right when you say he also had different players in his 16 years with Manchester but I makes a lot of difference when you can fit these players into your "old" team then when you start with a complete new selection of 20-30 men like Capello frequently did.
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Jun 3 2003, 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by ManchesterUnited4Life@Jun 2 2003, 10:48 PM
And when he managed Aberdeen - OK, so they're Scottish - but still, he took a squad of ONLY 15 - yes 15 players! to the Scottish Premier League title. And correct me if I'm wrong somebody, but I THINK they won the Uefa cup or the European Cup (the old Champions League) too, while he was there.
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I think it was the European Cup Winner's Cup, Fergie guided the mighty Aberdeen to victory over minnows Real Madrid, 2-1 in the final, some time in the 80's...
And did Capello really start with a different selection of 20-30 players Interista? I don't know much about that period but wasn't he only there for about 6-7 years (an also one when he went back following Madrid) but it was a pretty settled squad mostly then wasn't it? True he had to replace the Van Basten/Gullit era but then he had people like Maldini, Baresi, Desailly and then the team when he came back from spain, so there's really only 1 or maybe 2 major team reshuffles. Sorry if I have that all wrong, my knowledge of Italian football pre-1997 is not good.
And I also think Capello is a great coach, if not the best in the world. I was hoping he would take over after Ferguson at United but Fergie has stayed on now. He's done great things with Roma, has Capello, I mean they never looked like winning anything before him.
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Jun 3 2003, 05:25 PM
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And did Capello really start with a different selection of 20-30 players Interista?
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Yes he had with Roma and Real Madrid.
If your referring to his rossoneri period, and clearly you are, he didn't had to deal with that much changes. However being away for a year doesn't mean that the squad he finds after his return is also the same squad he left a couple of years ago even when most of the players are still there.
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Jun 6 2003, 09:30 AM
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Back to the topic, I don't think that Roma should be looking at 1 big target like Beckham. They have some major problems, like defence and attack, that need to be resolved. Their money is better spent on three or four players to fill the problem positions rather than just one big player.
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Jun 6 2003, 11:43 AM
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The problem however is that these 3-4 players also costs a fortune. Buying one big star means that Roma can generate money from merchandise. I still don't think Roma has that much money to really buy good players. They better can buy some talented players or loan reserve players from the three northern top clubs
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Originally posted by Horsey@Jun 6 2003, 12:30 PM
Back to the topic, I don't think that Roma should be looking at 1 big target like Beckham. They have some major problems, like defence and attack, that need to be resolved. Their money is better spent on three or four players to fill the problem positions rather than just one big player.
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I think what you're suggesting is wrong. If they do that, they'll go Liverpool's way.
A team that wants to be a topteam can better buy 1 good player, than 4 average players. What you're kinda suggesting is to buy 4 "average" players.. that's not good, since they simply don't have the level to go to the top..
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Jun 7 2003, 08:46 AM
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If that was true Moratti's Inter already won a lot of trophies 
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Jun 7 2003, 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by Interista@Jun 7 2003, 11:46 AM
If that was true Moratti's Inter already won a lot of trophies
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was that a reaction to my post?
If so, which top player did Inter buy in recent years than?
I remember Ronaldo, but he injured the whole time and after that he screwed you and went to Real..
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Yes I was referring to your post VdV.
What do ya think of Vieri, Crespo & Cannavaro
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Originally posted by Interista@Jun 7 2003, 01:39 PM
Yes I was referring to your post VdV.
What do ya think of Vieri, Crespo & Cannavaro
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ok, those are top players..
but that doesn't make my post not true.. you can have some topplayers, but other teams have topplayers too, apparently they have more topplayers or they are just more a team..
Do you think than, that if you didn't buy Vieri, but instead 4 average players, that you would've won some prizes than?
What I think: NO WAY!
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You're absolutely right. But Moratti's Inter only buys stars and it simple doesn't work because Inter already has a lot of stars. What Inter needs is team players, not any big names like Beckham. There has to be a good balance, between the number of stars and the number of players who work for them.
Roma has far too many problems so they can not solve that with one big signing. That is why you may progress more with 4 average players. Roma does have Totti and he is a key player. If these avarage players are working for him and deliver him numerous of passes Roma becomes immediately a very good club. Then you might think of getting another keyplayer....
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Originally posted by Interista@Jun 7 2003, 02:01 PM
You're absolutely right. But Moratti's Inter only buys stars and it simple doesn't work because Inter already has a lot of stars. What Inter needs is team players, not any big names like Beckham. There has to be a good balance, between the number of stars and the number of players who work for them.
Roma has far too many problems so they can not solve that with one big signing. That is why you may progress more with 4 average players. Roma does have Totti and he is a key player. If these avarage players are working for him and deliver him numerous of passes Roma becomes immediately a very good club. Then you might think of getting another keyplayer....
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But Inter doesn't do bad I think. They only play s***e football, but the results aren't bad.. I dunno if Inter needs to change anything.. and I think Inter already has too many of average players.. (C. Zanetti, Dalmat, Conceicao, Materazzi, Vivas, di Biagio, Guly..), so I don't see the point in getting more average players.. for Inter I think "top player" Kily would be a great signing..
anyway, back to Roma:
4 average players, might work hard for Totti, but against topteams, those players can work as hard as they can, but still won't be able to win the balls, cause they just don't have the level to compete with the topteams..
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