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Excelsior · May 11 2003, 12:11 PM

Franchise FC arranged friendlies to introduce their new stadium in Milton Keynes against Tottenham Hotspur, Charlton Athletic and Luton Town. All of these friendlies were cancelled because the supporters from the opponents protested and didn't want their team playing there after that disgraceful move!

This is just great,

to Koppel! I hope Franchise goes bust asap!!!

Crewie · May 11 2003, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by Excelsior@May 11 2003, 10:11 AM
This is just great, to Koppel! I hope Franchise goes bust asap!!!

But if they didn't moved they would have gone bust and then you would be moaning about them going bust or not moving to save themselves.......

Excelsior · May 11 2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Crewie+May 11 2003, 06:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Crewie @ May 11 2003, 06:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Excelsior@May 11 2003, 10:11 AM
This is just great,  to Koppel! I hope Franchise goes bust asap!!!

But if they didn't moved they would have gone bust and then you would be moaning about them going bust or not moving to save themselves.......

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Don't talk crap! If they wouldn't move, they might have to play a division lower in a few years, bot not go bust. Such a move is unacceptable, easy.

The Raven · May 11 2003, 08:27 PM

Why don't they offer Milton Keynes City a friendly. That was there would be very few people to object

***Mark*** · May 11 2003, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by Excelsior+May 11 2003, 07:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Excelsior @ May 11 2003, 07:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Crewie @ May 11 2003, 06:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Excelsior@May 11 2003, 10:11 AM
This is just great,* to Koppel! I hope Franchise goes bust asap!!!

But if they didn't moved they would have gone bust and then you would be moaning about them going bust or not moving to save themselves.......

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Don't talk crap! If they wouldn't move, they might have to play a division lower in a few years, bot not go bust. Such a move is unacceptable, easy. [/b][/quote]
of course everyone must consult you before they do anything, I forgot

Excelsior · May 11 2003, 08:34 PM

Well, it's not just my opinion, it's the opinion of around 90% of the football fans in England, including all real dons.

Such a move is unacceptable, thats so easy. I don't understand there are still people who think this move was right. Just for commerce they went to MK, Koppel didn't even consider options in/near Merton. They threw the history away, deserted their fans just for the money. If this is going to succeed it will mean the death of football!

***Mark*** · May 11 2003, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by Excelsior@May 11 2003, 07:34 PM
Well, it's not just my opinion, it's the opinion of around 90% of the football fans in England, including all real dons.

Such a move is unacceptable, thats so easy. I don't understand there are still people who think this move was right. Just for commerce they went to MK, Koppel didn't even consider options in/near Merton. They threw the history away, deserted their fans just for the money. If this is going to succeed it will mean the death of football!

ok right let's look at this logically....how do you pay stadium costs, players wages etc etc....MONEY, which bit don't you understand?

Excelsior · May 11 2003, 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by The Raven@May 11 2003, 07:27 PM
Why don't they offer Milton Keynes City a friendly. That was there would be very few people to object

Milton Keynes City is also against the move, they will never play a friendly. They are even considering a friendly against the REAL Wimbledon.

Excelsior · May 11 2003, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by Mark+May 11 2003, 07:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ May 11 2003, 07:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Excelsior@May 11 2003, 07:34 PM
Well, it's not just my opinion, it's the opinion of around 90% of the football fans in England, including all real dons.

Such a move is unacceptable, thats so easy. I don't understand there are still people who think this move was right. Just for commerce they went to MK, Koppel didn't even consider options in/near Merton. They threw the history away, deserted their fans just for the money. If this is going to succeed it will mean the death of football!

ok right let's look at this logically....how do you pay stadium costs, players wages etc etc....MONEY, which bit don't you understand? [/b][/quote]
Yes, but then a little less money and maybe a lower league, but NEVER abandon the history and desert the fans. Wimbledon represents the area of Wimbledon, they belong there forever. They shouldn't leave just because of getting more money. Don't you really understand that?

***Mark*** · May 11 2003, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by Excelsior+May 11 2003, 07:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Excelsior @ May 11 2003, 07:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ May 11 2003, 07:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Excelsior@May 11 2003, 07:34 PM
Well, it's not just my opinion, it's the opinion of around 90% of the football fans in England, including all real dons.

Such a move is unacceptable, thats so easy. I don't understand there are still people who think this move was right. Just for commerce they went to MK, Koppel didn't even consider options in/near Merton. They threw the history away, deserted their fans just for the money. If this is going to succeed it will mean the death of football!

ok right let's look at this logically....how do you pay stadium costs, players wages etc etc....MONEY, which bit don't you understand? [/b][/quote]
Yes, but then a little less money and maybe a lower league, but NEVER abandon the history and desert the fans. Wimbledon represents the area of Wimbledon, they belong there forever. They shouldn't leave just because of getting more money. Don't you really understand that? [/b][/quote]
bet you're part of the brigade who criticise the Italian sides for letting their finances go out of hand?

Excelsior · May 11 2003, 08:44 PM

You just have to work with the money you've got (and not get too big debts). You can make up several things to raise money, but some things you can't chance, the city where the club is playing is one of those things.

The Raven · May 11 2003, 08:52 PM

Excelsior you've lost me with that comment. I think Wimbledon will take of in MK, whether people wanna play them or not, as opposition teams will have no choice. It's pro football and people in MK will go and watch them. I have a suspicion that some away fans will boycott that away game and I suppose if people feel that strongly about it that's their choice. But, at the end of the day, just support AFC and let Dr Evil ruin MK dons.

BTW I hope you like the MK Dons attatchment I sent. Slyly altered by someone or other

Excelsior · May 11 2003, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by The Raven@May 11 2003, 07:52 PM
Excelsior you've lost me with that comment. I think Wimbledon will take of in MK, whether people wanna play them or not, as opposition teams will have no choice. It's pro football and people in MK will go and watch them. I have a suspicion that some away fans will boycott that away game and I suppose if people feel that strongly about it that's their choice. But, at the end of the day, just support AFC and let Dr Evil ruin MK dons.

BTW I hope you like the MK Dons attatchment I sent. Slyly altered by someone or other

Of course, when it's league the opposition will play, but I'm talking about friendlies. And most AFC-fans won't leave Franchise alone, they should go bust asap, that is needed for football. Everybody supporting them is supporting the death of football. If they'd move a top team into my back yard, I still wouldn't go!

And please don't call them MK Dons, they aren't dons.

btw, what attachment?

The Raven · May 11 2003, 09:51 PM

Check the addy you give as your msn address on your profile, I forwarded something to it.

Excelsior · May 13 2003, 12:09 PM

Yes, it's a great one, thank you.

The Franchise chanced their badge already, soon the name will be chanced. Because I love football, I hope this move will fail. The sooner Franchise goes bust, the better it is for football!

Crewie · May 14 2003, 02:47 AM

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Originally posted by Excelsior@May 13 2003, 10:09 AM
Yes, it's a great one, thank you.

The Franchise chanced their badge already, soon the name will be chanced. Because I love football, I hope this move will fail. The sooner Franchise goes bust, the better it is for football!

But if they stayed put they would have gone bust and then there'd be an up roar with everyone moaning that Koppell ddidn't do everything to save the club.....

Can't have it both ways.

mad_times · May 14 2003, 03:25 AM

Just one thing to ask in here.

Did you support Wimbledon before the whole split thing happened?

Excelsior · May 14 2003, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by mad_times+May 14 2003, 02:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mad_times @ May 14 2003, 02:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Just one thing to ask in here.

Did you support Wimbledon before the whole split thing happened? [/b]

Yes, since Connoly went from Excelsior to Wimbledon (after a few months Feyenoord) I followed the club. Later I met a friend who is a Wimbledon-supporter and I became more interested in the club.

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@May 13 2003, 10:09 AM
Yes, it's a great one, thank you.

The Franchise chanced their badge already, soon the name will be chanced. Because I love football, I hope this move will fail. The sooner Franchise goes bust, the better it is for football!

But if they stayed put they would have gone bust and then there'd be an up roar with everyone moaning that Koppell ddidn't do everything to save the club.....

Can't have it both ways.[/quote]No, the club wouldn't go bust as Koppel says. Koppel tells lies all the time. The club might not survive on div 1 level, but div 2 or at least div 3 wouldn't be a problem. However the level is lower, the club would still be wimbledon. Wimbledon represents the area of Wimbledon and so belongs there or really close to that area. There were possibilities of going back to Merton, WISA (Wimbledons supporters association) even got all sorted out and stated that was a realistic option. But Koppel wanted to go to MK, he just didn't listen to the supporters. A club belongs in/near the city/area they represent and nowhere else. Money raising can always be tried, but some things just can't chance, where the club comes from for example. Even if the club would go bust (what wouldn't happen) it's not an acceptable solution. It's not right just to take a club to another place for getting more support. If that becomes normal, it's the death of football! NO to fooball franchising!!!

**madcap** · May 14 2003, 06:45 PM

Koppel "The South African Franchising Tw*t" introduced a dangerous precedent here. In light of the financial troubles in the game, it is now considered OK to move a club around the country. I live in North America, where this has been the norm for about 30 years (If I told you the story of Montreal's baseball franchise, you'd be sick), and let me tell you something: YOU DON'T WANT THIS. In England, where many place club above country, where people are, dare I say, a bit more fanatical about sport than over here, franchising would be completely immoral. Sure, finance is a big aspect of football, but it's not bigger than the sport itself

Excelsior · May 15 2003, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by madcap@May 14 2003, 05:45 PM
Koppel "The South African Franchising Tw*t" introduced a dangerous precedent here. In light of the financial troubles in the game, it is now considered OK to move a club around the country. I live in North America, where this has been the norm for about 30 years (If I told you the story of Montreal's baseball franchise, you'd be sick), and let me tell you something: YOU DON'T WANT THIS. In England, where many place club above country, where people are, dare I say, a bit more fanatical about sport than over here, franchising would be completely immoral. Sure, finance is a big aspect of football, but it's not bigger than the sport itself

Good writing!

**Tom_NUFC** · May 15 2003, 11:23 PM

I personally think that every club should boycott them.

Everyone should refuse to play friendlies against them, any team playing away to Milton Keynes should refuse away allocation, and if possible clubs should refuse to allow visting Milton Keynes supporters in. (Although I don't think that's allowed).

Ideally it would be great if EVERY team, be it in the League, FA Cup, League Cup refused to play against them. If everyone agreed to it, then they'd be out on their arse which would serve them right.

Excelsior · May 16 2003, 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by Tom_NUFC@May 15 2003, 10:23 PM
I personally think that every club should boycott them.

Everyone should refuse to play friendlies against them, any team playing away to Milton Keynes should refuse away allocation, and if possible clubs should refuse to allow visting Milton Keynes supporters in. (Although I don't think that's allowed).

Ideally it would be great if EVERY team, be it in the League, FA Cup, League Cup refused to play against them. If everyone agreed to it, then they'd be out on their arse which would serve them right.

You're completely right, the Franchise should go bust asap. That's the best for English footy!

***Mark*** · May 16 2003, 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by Excelsior+May 16 2003, 09:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Excelsior @ May 16 2003, 09:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Tom_NUFC@May 15 2003, 10:23 PM
I personally think that every club should boycott them.

Everyone should refuse to play friendlies against them, any team playing away to Milton Keynes should refuse away allocation, and if possible clubs should refuse to allow visting Milton Keynes supporters in. (Although I don't think that's allowed).

Ideally it would be great if EVERY team, be it in the League, FA Cup, League Cup refused to play against them. If everyone agreed to it, then they'd be out on their arse which would serve them right.

You're completely right, the Franchise should go bust asap. That's the best for English footy! [/b][/quote]
yeh what a great idea, how good would it be to have a club go bust

How would you like it if Excelsior went under, cause I'd be cracking up

Excelsior · May 16 2003, 11:02 AM

If the move will succeed, more clubs will do it and that will no doubt mean the death of football in England. This move is a disgrace and only if the move fails, no other clubs will do such an disgraceful move!

***Mark*** · May 16 2003, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Excelsior@May 16 2003, 10:02 AM
If the move will succeed, more clubs will do it and that will no doubt mean the death of football in England. This move is a disgrace and only if the move fails, no other clubs will do such an disgraceful move!

so do you disagree with Arsenal moving to Ashburton Grove or Liverpool moving to Stanley Park I think it is?