Rugby

[Knoert]

Hello,

This afternoon I saw a great rugby game between the Leeds Rhinoes and St. Helens. In Holland Rugby is never on the TV so I can't see it often, only on saturday on the BBC. That's one of the reasons I don't know the differences between all the leagues and cups, I thought Leeds-St. Helens was for the "powergen challenge cup" (?). But there also is the six nations cup, rugby union, rugby league, heineken cup.
I like to see a game of rugby but if I don't know or a good team is playing against a bad team or it's a very important league it's less exciting

Can anyone explain the differences between all the leagues?
And what's the most important one?

[Knoert]

Really no one who knows this???

[chigs87]

i donno much about it but i think tht rugby union: play the heineken cup. Parker Pen Cup and in the Zurich Prem.

Rugby League: play the powergen challenge cup.

Six Nations are ( i think) the six european teams playing each other ( bit like euro 2004 for footie), this re the team tht play in it :
England
Ireland
France
Scotland
Italy
Wales

[chigs87]

this are the teams in the Rugby League :

Bradford Bulls
Castleford Tigers
Halifax Blue Sox
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Leeds Rhinos
London Broncos
St Helens
Wakefield Trinity Wildcats
Warrington Wolves
Widnes Vikings
Wigan Warriors
And
this are the teams in Rugby Union ( Zuich Prem.)

Bath
Bristol
Gloucester
Harlequins
Leeds
Leicester
London Irish
Newcastle
Northampton
Sale
Saracens
Wasps


Knoert, you were watching the Challenge Cup Semis, saw a bit --- Danny McGuire = Legend!

[bluemoon32]

Rugby league & Rugby Union are 2 different sports. Rugby league is played with 13 players & Union with 15.
The most important tournament in the Northern Hemisphere in Union is the Heineken Cup & the Super 12's in the Southern Hemisphere. The major tournament for International sides is the 6 nations ( Wales,England,Ireland,Scotland,Italy & France), the Southern hemispheres equivalant is the Tri-Nations ( New Zealand,Australia & South Africa). There is also a 4 yearly World Cup ( 1st held in 1985) which is being held in Australia later in the year). NO European side has won the World Cup thus far but England could go close this time as at present they are probably the best side in the World :crying
As for Rugby League you'd better ask the Northern monkey's about that game

[Liverpool !!!]

Halifax Blue Sox

[b]

its not bluesox anymore its R.L.F.C

i am a very big fan of rugby league. i dont like union at all.

i have been to watch both semi-finals of the powergen challenge cup this weekend between st's n leeds and wigan n bradford

if you want any questions answering bout rugby league feel free to pm me. dont ask me bout union tho as aint interested

[welshwizard]

Although I'm a proud Welshman (like you'd never of guessed ), I much prefer League to Union. Much better to watch and the refs try and keep the game flowing. By all accounts Knoert, the game you saw between Leeds and St Helens was an absolute cracker

[bluemoon32]

Originally posted by welshwizard@Apr 13 2003, 03:45 PM
Although I'm a proud Welshman (like you'd never of guessed ), I much prefer League to Union. Much better to watch and the refs try and keep the game flowing. By all accounts Knoert, the game you saw between Leeds and St Helens was an absolute cracker

Sacrilege
That might have been the case a few years ago but Union is much better now :USA_Blue's_Smiley
Although ive said it before that Aussie Rugby League is the best Rugby of either codes anywhere in the world

[Knoert]

Originally posted by chigs87@Apr 13 2003, 01:31 PM
Knoert, you were watching the Challenge Cup Semis, saw a bit --- Danny McGuire = Legend!

Also Kevin Sinfield was playing well!

[Knoert]

So if I understand it well, two different kinds of rugby, union (15 players) and league (13 players).
Union: Northern Hemisphere: Heineken Cup, 6-nations, Zurich prem. league, Parker pen Cup Southern Hemisphere: Super 12's and Tri-nations.

League: Rugby league (in England) and powergen challenge cup.

Union has european competitions, Heineken cup, six-nations cup, does "rugby league" also have european cups and tournaments between countries?

[welshwizard]

Originally posted by bluemoon32+Apr 13 2003, 07:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bluemoon32 @ Apr 13 2003, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--welshwizard@Apr 13 2003, 03:45 PM
Although I'm a proud Welshman (like you'd never of guessed ), I much prefer League to Union.&nbsp; Much better to watch and the refs try and keep the game flowing.&nbsp; By all accounts Knoert, the game you saw between Leeds and St Helens was an absolute cracker &nbsp;

Sacrilege
That might have been the case a few years ago but Union is much better now :USA_Blue's_Smiley
Although ive said it before that Aussie Rugby League is the best Rugby of either codes anywhere in the world [/b][/quote]
Have you watched a Welsh rugby union game in the last few years??? Te refs are whistle happy, the players' fitness for professionals in a complete disgrace and the skill levels are abysmal


Don't bury your head in the sand bluemoon

The biggest problem we have in Wales is thinking everything will work out well in the end. League is much more entertaining

[ticcan123]

International Rugby Union is by far the best sport to watch for excitement and tension.

I used to think League was dull as s***. Then i spent a year in Australia and watched it a lot. I did get quite into it, especially the State of Origin games, they were awesome.

Its still too stop start, eg 6 tackles and lose possesion, to be as good as Union but its still very good.

[bluemoon32]

Originally posted by welshwizard+Apr 14 2003, 11:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (welshwizard @ Apr 14 2003, 11:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--bluemoon32+Apr 13 2003, 07:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bluemoon32 @ Apr 13 2003, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--welshwizard@Apr 13 2003, 03:45 PM
Although I'm a proud Welshman (like you'd never of guessed ), I much prefer League to Union.* Much better to watch and the refs try and keep the game flowing.* By all accounts Knoert, the game you saw between Leeds and St Helens was an absolute cracker *

Sacrilege
That might have been the case a few years ago but Union is much better now :USA_Blue's_Smiley
Although ive said it before that Aussie Rugby League is the best Rugby of either codes anywhere in the world [/b][/quote]
Have you watched a Welsh rugby union game in the last few years??? Te refs are whistle happy, the players' fitness for professionals in a complete disgrace and the skill levels are abysmal


Don't bury your head in the sand bluemoon

The biggest problem we have in Wales is thinking everything will work out well in the end. League is much more entertaining [/b][/quote]
I agree with you about Wesh rugby but league is NOT better than Union when played properly ( anywhere but Wales)
All that 6 passes & then its your ball is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz boring
UK rugby league is s***e but like i said....Aussie Rugby league is awesome

[mtfc]

i prefer league to union much more skill involved :USA_Blue's_Smiley

[bluemoon32]

Originally posted by mtfc@Apr 14 2003, 02:20 PM
i prefer league to union much more skill involved :USA_Blue's_Smiley

Nah, the most skillful are French backs or southern hemisphere backs.
Not too many 'flair' players in the UK anymore :crying

[ticcan123]

Depends what you mean by skill. There is much more space so it may appear more skillful. Union requires much more tactical and fast thinking ability, its just a more dynamic game

[bluemoon32]

Originally posted by ticcan@Apr 14 2003, 02:23 PM
Depends what you mean by skill. There is much more space so it may appear more skillful. Union requires much more tactical and fast thinking ability, its just a more dynamic game

Well said that man :USA_Blue's_Smiley

[Jimmy]

Originally posted by welshwizard@Apr 13 2003, 04:45 PM
Although I'm a proud Welshman (like you'd never of guessed ), I much prefer League to Union. Much better to watch and the refs try and keep the game flowing. By all accounts Knoert, the game you saw between Leeds and St Helens was an absolute cracker

Agreed,what a match!!! Gutted about the result. :crying Fancied going Cardiff aswell. :angry: Looks like we'll have 2 get to Old Trafford again.

[mtfc]

Originally posted by ticcan@Apr 14 2003, 02:23 PM
Depends what you mean by skill. There is much more space so it may appear more skillful. Union requires much more tactical and fast thinking ability, its just a more dynamic game

league you have so many tackles before you got to give it back to opposition which means you spread it about more hense more skillfull imo
your either union or league i suppose as there fans of either codes union is more for down south and league is for us northerners

[welshwizard]

Rugby Union - if you have a big, dominant pack and two good half backs, the rest of the team might as well go home. Rugby League has the ball in play far more than Rugby Union. It takes a minute to sort a line out, or a scrum and the refs are always stopping the game for numerous infringements. Don't get me wrong, when union is played well there is nothing like it. Unfortunately that's only four games a season :angry: :angry:

With league, you very rarely have a dull game

[chigs87]

Originally posted by Knoert+Apr 14 2003, 09:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Knoert @ Apr 14 2003, 09:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--chigs87@Apr 13 2003, 01:31 PM
Knoert, you were watching the Challenge Cup Semis, saw a bit --- Danny McGuire = Legend!

Also Kevin Sinfield was playing well! [/b][/quote]
Yeh..True

[ticcan123]

Originally posted by welshwizard@Apr 14 2003, 08:07 PM
Rugby Union - if you have a big, dominant pack and two good half backs, the rest of the team might as well go home. Rugby League has the ball in play far more than Rugby Union. It takes a minute to sort a line out, or a scrum and the refs are always stopping the game for numerous infringements. Don't get me wrong, when union is played well there is nothing like it. Unfortunately that's only four games a season :angry: :angry:

With league, you very rarely have a dull game

I agree to a certain extent. When a Union match is bad its very very dull, wheras league rarely is, due to more space/less players.

However what i really love is International Rugby and that is very very rarely dull. And beats league every time.

Although State of Origin in Australia was superb.

[bluemoon32]

Originally posted by ticcan+Apr 15 2003, 11:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ticcan @ Apr 15 2003, 11:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--welshwizard@Apr 14 2003, 08:07 PM
Rugby Union - if you have a big, dominant pack and two good half backs, the rest of the team might as well go home.&nbsp; Rugby League has the ball in play far more than Rugby Union. It takes a minute to sort a line out, or a scrum and the refs are always stopping the game for numerous infringements. Don't get me wrong, when union is played well there is nothing like it. Unfortunately that's only four games a season&nbsp; :angry:&nbsp; :angry:

With league, you very rarely have a dull game &nbsp;

I agree to a certain extent. When a Union match is bad its very very dull, wheras league rarely is, due to more space/less players.

However what i really love is International Rugby and that is very very rarely dull. And beats league every time.

Although State of Origin in Australia was superb. [/b][/quote]
Thats where League fails miserably, the International game in League is dreadful

[Smeg Devil]

rugby union is amazin anytime!

league is a good game against two brilliant sides but if its a walkover match then its boring!

Good Friday Halifax vs Hudds - excellent game to watch

[Liverpool !!!]

il agree wiv u there!!!