Swedish Allsvenska - Day 21

[Snokus]

Result from Day 21:

Hammarby-Örgryte 0-1 (0–0)
0–1 Johann Gudmundsson (85)
Spectators: 8800

Ögryte got a late goal to win the 3 points. They needed it to stay on the right side of the table. Hammarby was one of the favorites to win the series before the season started and was also in the top until day 15-16. In the last 8 game they have taken 5 points.

Trelleborgs FF-Halmstad 0-4 (0-2)
0–1 Yaw Preko (19), 0–2 Sharbel Touma (38), 0–3 Markus Rosenberg (54), 0–4 Markus Rosenberg (56).
Spectators: 1614(!!!)

Trelleborg is currently last in the Allsvenska and despite that all hope is not in theory gone they will be relegated. The Loan from Malmö FF, Marcus Rosenberg, scored 2 goals in 1 minute. Halmstad is currently in 3 position with one game more played.

Landskrona-Gif Sundsvall 3-2 (1–2)
0–1 Fredric Lundqvist (19 pen), 0–2 Jonas Wallerstedt (20), 1–2 Kevin Amuneke (32), 2–2 og (46), 3–2 Kevin Amuneke (57).
Spectators 2757(!)


Landskrona is involve in the fight for staying and after a quick 0-2 they looked like a strong contender for relagation. They manage to turn the game around thanks to young (18 year old) Nigerian Kevin Amuneke. The 1-2 goal was scored when he took advantage of a poor backward pass and then followed up by running away from the defender and score 3-2.


ÖREBRO-MALMÖ FF 1-2 (0-0)
0–1 (52) Niklas Skoog, 0–2 (68) Afonso Alves. 1–2 (85) Herish Kuhi.
Spectators: 6629

Örebro started the game good and had some pressure on Malmö but after a while Malmö got back into the game. Mostly becouse of their strong midfielder, and in particular Luoulo Chanko who were everywhere on the field.
After halftime Malmö got an early goal, scored with a strong shot from outside the penelty area by last years Allsvenska topscorer Niklas Skoog.
Örebro got more and more pressure on Malmö but after a cleansing kick from Chanko, Malmö´s Brasilian player Afonso Alves used the heel to get rid of the first defender, advanced onto Örebros side of the pitch and got by another defender before sprinting against the goal by himself. Finished with a nice lob over the goalie.
In media the goal is talked about as the goal of the year.
Malmö then controlled the game but in 85:th Örebro got a goal in but didnt really manage to put the pressure on Malmö

AIK Solna-DJURGÅRDEN 1-1 (0-0)
1–0 (55) Stefan Ishizaki, 1–1 (80) Fredrik Stenman
Spectators: 18876

A game with alot of good chances squandered. The tied game reflects the game but with all thoose chanses it might aswell have been 3-3.
AIK Solna is still in relegation zone.

KALMAR-HELSINGBORG 0-0 (0-0)
Spectators: 5788

Alot of chanses, but none of the team manage to get the winning goal. Kalmar had more shots on goal and should have won the game. A Helsingborg supported was arrested with arsony after he started a fire in the arena.

ELFSBORG-IFK GÖTEBORG 1-0 (1-0)
1-0 (44) Johan Karlsson
Spectators: 10635

Not alot of chanses in this tight game, IFK Göteborg havent beaten Elfsborg at Ryavallen in 10 years, and didnt manage to do it this time either.
The goal just before halftime on a nice longshot by Johan Karlsson.
Göteborg tried to get a goal in but didnt really manage to get the real chances.
Göteborg was wrongfully awarded a penelty kick in minute 85 but Niclas Alexandersson´s penelty was saved by Elfsborg´s keeper Johan Wiland.


The table after 21 matches played (of 26):

1 Malmö FF 21 12 7 2 37-15 43
2 IFK Göteborg 21 12 4 5 27-15 40
3 Halmstads BK 21 11 6 4 43-24 39
4 Kalmar FF 21 8 10 3 23-15 34
5 Hammarby IF 21 9 5 7 23-20 32
6 Djurgårdens IF 21 7 8 6 27-27 29
7 IF Elfsborg 21 7 7 7 20-26 28
8 Helsingborgs IF 21 6 8 7 37-27 26
9 GIF Sundsvall 21 6 7 8 22-25 25
10 Örgryte IS 21 5 8 8 19-26 23
11 Örebro SK 21 5 6 10 24-39 21
12 Landskrona BoIS 21 4 8 9 21-31 20
13 AIK 21 4 8 9 17-27 20
14 Trelleborgs FF 21 2 6 13 16-39 12

Top goal scorers:

10 Goals
Afonso Alves Malmö FF

9 Goals
Dede Anderson Kalmar FF
Peter Graulund Helsingborg
Markus Rosenberg Halmstad
Sharbel Touma Halmstad

8 Goals
Peter Ijeh IFK Göteborg
Mattias Lindström Helsingborg

7 Goals
Yaw Preko Halmstad
Jonas Wallerstedt Sundsvall
Niklas Skoog Malmö FF

6 goals
Andreas Johansson Djurgården
Lasse Nilsson Elfsborg
Hans Berggren Elfsborg
George Mourad IFK Göteborg
Ailton Örgryte

Upcoming games

Day 22:
Sunday 26/9
Halmstad - Örebro SK
Djurgården - Trelleborg
Örgryte - Elfsborg
Malmö FF - Hammarby

Monday 27/9
Sundsvall - AIK Solna
Helsingborg - Landskrona
Göteborg - Kalmar FF

Day 23
Sunday 3/10
AIK Solna - Örebro SK
Kalmar FF - Malmö FF
Trelleborg - Örgryte

Monday 4/10
Helsingborg - Sundsvall
Elfsborg - Halmstad
Göteborg - Djurgården
Landskrona - Hammarby

If you want more info (statistics or otherwise) please let me know.

[Ceres]

Nice to see a Swede in this forum Snokus ... perhaps you could make an Allsvenskan thread ?... now a few qustions...

Originally Posted by Snokus

Trelleborgs FF-Halmstad 0-4 (0-2)
Spectators: 1614(!!!)

Landskrona-Gif Sundsvall 3-2 (1–2)
Spectators 2757(!)


Top goal scorers:

10 Goals
Afonso Alves Malmö FF

9 Goals
Dede Anderson Kalmar FF
Peter Graulund Helsingborg
Markus Rosenberg Halmstad
Sharbel Touma Halmstad

If you want more info (statistics or otherwise) please let me know.

What's going on with the low attendance in Trelleborg and Landskrona ??... Allsvenskan has had by far the best average attendance in Scandinavia the past many years and still has, but it now seem to slide below the 10,000 average... whats the main reason for this, and was it expected ??

Average attendance 2004 (so far) : 9,710

Average attendance 2003 : 10,208
Average attendance 2002 : 10,180
Average attendance 2001 : 8,441
Average attendance 2000 : 6,976
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I'm happy to see that the former AGF Aarhus forward, Peter Graulund, is doing well for Helsingborg at the top of the topscorers list. However, in the friday issue of the Danish ESM football magazine TIPS-Bladet, he's very critical of the Swedish referees and he also criticize the Swedish football pitches, being of a lower standard in compare with Denmark... What's the Swedish view on the standard of referees and football pitches in Sweden ?...

He also says that the Swedish UEFA Cup teams (like Hammarby and Elfsborg) wouldnt get anywhere near a medal, but would have trouble competing in the Danish league .... We have seen alot of swedish top players moving to Denmark and Norway the past few years, and I know that alot of the Swedish clubs have some financial trouble, but with Graulund's critique in mind, then my question is : are all the teams in Allsvenskan full professional ?, and if not, then which teams are semi-professional/use semi-professional players ??...

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[Snokus]

Originally Posted by Ceres

Nice to see a Swede in this forum Snokus ... perhaps you could make an Allsvenskan thread ?... now a few qustions...



What's going on with the low attendance in Trelleborg and Landskrona ??... Allsvenskan has had by far the best average attendance in Scandinavia the past many years and still has, but it now seem to slide below the 10,000 average... whats the main reason for this, and was it expected ??

Average attendance 2004 (so far) : 9,710

Average attendance 2003 : 10,208
Average attendance 2002 : 10,180
Average attendance 2001 : 8,441
Average attendance 2000 : 6,976
-----

I'm happy to see that the former AGF Aarhus forward, Peter Graulund, is doing well for Helsingborg at the top of the topscorers list. However, in the friday issue of the Danish ESM football magazine TIPS-Bladet, he's very critical of the Swedish referees and he also criticize the Swedish football pitches, being of a lower standard in compare with Denmark... What's the Swedish view on the standard of referees and football pitches in Sweden ?...

He also says that the Swedish UEFA Cup teams (like Hammarby and Elfsborg) wouldnt get anywhere near a medal, but would have trouble competing in the Danish league .... We have seen alot of swedish top players moving to Denmark and Norway the past few years, and I know that alot of the Swedish clubs have some financial trouble, but with Graulund's critique in mind, then my question is : are all the teams in Allsvenskan full professional ?, and if not, then which teams are semi-professional/use semi-professional players ??...

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Yes, i was actually thinking of creating a Allsvenska tread, especially now when it´s only 5 more rounds to go.

When it comes to the spectators there are several possible explanation.
If we start with the mentioned clubs first:
Landskrona and Trelleborg are both "small" club in southern Sweden (Helsinborg, Landskrona, Malmö and Trelleborg is all in a radius of 100km) and have always lived in the shadow of "Bigbrother". This club was for many years Malmö FF but in the late 90 Helsingborg was the biggest club in Southern Sweden.

Landskrona and Trelleborg has always had to fight with the same spectators as the bigger club. Alot of people living in Trelleborg and Landskrona support teams like Malmö or Helsingborg. The problem is also that they are very small towns and Landskrona is only inhabited by about 30.000. Landskrona wanted to gain some good position this year and sign alot of "good" players, among them old Malmö player Jörgen Pettersson from FCK.

Both team got a good start but now their both in the relagation zone and there have been munch negative publicity around the clubs (sacked coaches and so on).

So to move on to the whole Allsvenska and try to answer your question:

Yes, it was expected that the spectators would be less. The hype Swedish Domestic fotball have had over the last few years is quite incredible, this hype is now starting to wear of and i can tell you a couple of reasons:

1. To be honest, Allsvenskan isn´t good enough to support 10.000+ on avrage
2. For the last few years the clubs from Stockholm (Hammarby, Djurgården and AIK Solna) have been in the top and the Derbys in Stockholm have been on a sold out Råsunda (30.000+) but now the Stockholm team is not in toppositions anymore and therefor the attandance is much lower. The Derby between AIK Solna and Djurgården was only attenden by about 18.000.
3. More and more violence is happening around the games. It have been relativitly calm the latest year but now the violence is growing again.
4. The weather. After 2 years of nice weather, this spring/summer/autom has been really terrible.
5. Swedish clubs have to compete with our other national sport, Icehockey, over the crowd. Now that NHL is suspended and alot of worldclass players (both Swedish and others) decides to play in the Swedish leage, media grants hockey alot more space than soccer.

Theese are, what i think, the main reason that make the avrage go down.

Lets move on to the UEFA problem.
Its very frustrating to see Swedish club fail misarbly year after year, and to see that our danish and norweigan club do much better. Im not that sure that those clubs are much better than Swedish, but i guess Royal League will prove me wrong or wright about that. The main reason i think is that we do not have the same clubs in top year after year like you do in Denmark and especially Norway. One other reason is that we play our season from spring-autom and not from autom to spring like the rest of Europe. This means that the club that finish in toppositions have to wait almost a year to play in Europe.

As a said earlier, i think that Swedish topclubs would do well in both Danish and Norweigan leages. They might not win, but they would defently fight for it.

Moving on to the referes... First all, the referes in Sweden arent proffesional at all. I think they earn like €150/game and all of them have full time jobs.
The standars of the refs are very poor in Sweden and this is a really big problem.

When it comes to Graulund, i can just say that i have never seen a player more lacking of fair play than him. You might think he is italian.....

So the financial problems now...
Alot of clubs in Sweden is struggeling with financial problems. The clubs with the biggest problems is Helsingborg and Örebro. The reason for this that a well used (in fotball club) tax deduction was denied by the goverment and the clubs have to pay tax for a couple of years back. In Helsinborg they also payed their players way to high salaries and manage to blow all their Champion leage money and much more (about € 10 millions)in just a couple of years...

The reasons for players leaving for Denmark/Norway is a couple:
1. Both Denmark and Norway have better tax deduction for foreign players, atleast for a couple of years. Sweden completly lacks this.
2. Swedish players have a romantic image of beeing pro player abroad.

Finally, to answer your question about pro/semi-pro players.
Back in the late 80, Malmö FF started will full pro players and have only have pro players since then. Many of the other teams have then followed.I would say that about of 90% of all players in Allsvenskan is fully pros.
Some players in teams that go in and out the top division (Trelleborg, Kalmar, Landskrona to name a few) are only semi-pros.

ps. Alot of good games were played today in the 22:nd round. I will write something about them tomorrow, just came back from one of the games. Maybe an admin can change the thread topic to "Swedish Allsvenskan from Day 21 and forward" or something...?
Please also excuse my poor spelling, im a bit tired right now.

[Vidi Vici]

30 000 in a town isn't few when you've got 2700 spectators on a match. Sogndal in the Tippeliga are from a village with about 3-4000 inhabitants. In their municipality there's 6000 inhabitants, and their lowest number ever this season is 1900. They're absolutly last, and got 8 (!) points up to the second to the bottom. They're already relegated, and that really shud affect their numbers as they have nothing to play for.

Lillestrøm town has 20 000 inhabitants, still their average number is about 7 200. Same with Hamar (Ham-Kam, newly promoted), they've got 20 000 inhabitants and their average number is 5200. Also Molde has 20 000 inhabitants. They're 12th (of 14 teams, and obviously on their way down), and have an average of 5 300. And Skåne is the most inhabited county (län) in Sweden and Landskrona really should have more attendance than that.

[tiger78]

After formatting PC (sigh!) i am back and i am happy to see there's a new informer: now also Sweden is covered!
I have only one question at the moment for Snokus: is it felt like "important" the fight for the 4th position (last one for Royal League). I'm asking it cause i am curious to understand how this new-entry tournament is considered in Sweden...
Which is at the moment Malmo's formation? I am from Italy and i am wondering if Daniel Andersson and Osmanovski are doing well there... (Patrik Andersson is still there also?)
Greetings

[Snokus]

God morning all, good to see that someone is reading what i write, i never thought anyone would be interested in Allsvenskan

I will try to answer your questions.
First all i do not defend the low attandance by Landskrona and Trelleborg and i agree that its bad. I do not know about norweigan geography but as i wrote earlier both Landskrona and Trelleborg have to fight with Malmö and Helsingborg over the audience. In the begining of the season both had a average of about 7000. Now they both reside in the bottom and now the crowd isnt interested anymore.

Tiger:
Royal Leage have been debated for a while and im afraid it will be a complete fiasko.
For the smaller clubs it could be nice but i doubt it. But since its quite big money involved the clubs would like to participate and find it a nice tournament. The fans however is not that entuasiastic. It all depends on what the fee for the games will be.
The positive side is that you get to play got teams from other countries. And since RL will be played when there is no games in the ordinary leage its better than playing off-season training games against local divison 3 teams.

So to move on to Malmö

In the beging of the season Malmö played a 3-5-2 formation but the latest games have been played in a straight 4-4-2 formation with the following people:

Niklas Skoog - Afonso Alves
Andreas Yngvesson - Tomas Olsson(C) - Daniel Andersson - Loulo Chanko
Joseph Elanga - Olof Persson - Peter Abelsson - Jon-Inge Höiland
Mattias Asper

Daniel Andersson instantly toke a place in Malmö central midfield and is getting better and better for every game he plays. Yksel Osmanovski havent played in like 2 years and have a long way to go. However, he is doing good on in the trainings and was substituted with 15 minutes left in yesterdays game. I think that next year he will take the left midfieldplace.

Patrik Andersson is still in Malmö, he had just decided to undergo foot surgery and will not be back until next season. I red in the newspaper today that the operations was not that big succes and he might miss the first half of the next season.

Even injured, with his experience Patrik is a very valuable member of our team.

Will post game summary later, there were some truly spectaculy matches played yesterday.

[Snokus]

Result from Day 22

Malmö FF-Hammarby 4-3 (2-1)
0-1 Haris Laitinen (9), 1-1 Afonso Alves (11), 2-1 Niklas Skoog (32 pen), 3-1 Andreas Yngvesson (43), 3-2 og (52), 3-3 Erik Johansson (58), 4-3 Afonso Alves (79)
Spectators: 20302

Hammarby got a good start in this game scoring a goal already in the 9:th minute. After that Afonso Alves turned the game around on his own. In the 11:th minute he sent the Hammarby defend to by sausages and then scored a nice goal. In minute 32 he got a penelty that Niklas Skoog scored an easy goal on. 3-1 was scored on a header by Andreas Yngvesson and Malmö dominated the game so far. The game looked like it was already decided but Hammarby got 2 easy goals in the beging of the second half. In the 79 minute a Hammarby attacker was free with the keeper but Mattias Asper saved the shot. In the counter attack after that Afonso used his magnific skills to score the gamewinning goal.

Afonso was completly brilliant in this game and he have recived the highest grade (5) in all Swedish newspapers. Some magasine even wanted to give him a 6


Afonso Alves celebrates with the fans after scoring the gamewinning 4-3

Djurgården-Trelleborgs FF 5-0 (4-0)
1-0 Andreas Johansson (7), 2-0 Fredrik Stenman (16), 3-0 Tomas Backman (36), 4-0 Patrick Amoah (44), 5-0 Abgar Barsom (79).
Spectators: 5448

Djurgården got an easy win over a team that is not good to play in the top division (and they will be relegated)

Halmstad-Örebro 5-0 (3-0)
1-0 Sharbel Touma (22), 2-0 Tomas Zvirgzdauskas (34), 3-0 Markus Rosenberg (45), 4-0 Markus Rosenberg (51), 5-0 Markus Rosenberg (67).

Örebro started the game best but got their keeper sent of after 19 minutes, Shabel Touma scored on the freekick and after that it was no question.
The loan from Malmö FF, Markus Rosenberg scored a hattrick in front of scouts from Ajax. Will he be the next Malmö player to play for Ajax?

Örgryte-Elfsborg 0-2 (0-1)
0-1 Lasse Nilsson (4), 0-2 Anderas Nilsson (62)

Ögryte dominated the game but their inefiecency opened the way for Elfsborg to get another win.

The current standing
  1.Malmö FF     22  13  7  2  41-18  46 
  2.Halmstad     22  12  6  4  48-24  42 
  3.Göteborg     21  12  4  5  27-15  40 
  4.Kalmar FF    21   8 10  3  23-15  34 
  5.Djurgården   22   8  8  6  32-27  32 
  6.Hammarby     22   9  5  8  26-24  32 
  7.Elfsborg     22   8  7  7  22-26  31 
  8.Helsingborg  21   6  8  7  37-27  26 
  9.Sundsvall    21   6  7  8  22-25  25 
 10.Örgryte      22   5  8  9  19-28  23 
 11.Örebro SK    22   5  6 11  24-44  21 
 12.Landskrona   21   4  8  9  21-31  20 
 13.AIK          21   4  8  9  17-27  20 
 14.Trelleborg   22   2  6 14  16-44  12

Top goal scorers
  ALLSVENSKAN (26/9):                    
  Afonso Alves        Malmö FF     12    
  Markus Rosenberg    Halmstad     12    
                                         
  Sharbel Touma       Halmstad     10    
                                         
  Dede Anderson       Kalmar FF     9    
  Peter Graulund      Helsingborg   9    
                                         
  Peter Ijeh          IFK Göteborg  8    
  Mattias Lindström   Helsingborg   8    
  Niklas Skoog        Malmö FF      8    
                                         
  Yaw Preko           Halmstad      7    
  Jonas Wallerstedt   Sundsvall     7    
  Andreas Johansson   Djurgården    7    
  Lasse Nilsson       Elfsborg      7    
                                         
  Hans Berggren       Elfsborg      6    
  George Mourad       IFK Göteborg  6    
  Ailton              Örgryte       6

Today the following games will be played:

Sundsvall - AIK Solna
Helsingborg - Landskrona
Göteborg - Kalmar FF

[Vidi Vici]

Hows the Norwegians doing in the Allsvenskan? I think there's a few ones there. I know about Høiland and the Brann reject Petter Furuseth Olsen. Høiland, is he doing well (since he plays for you favo club)?

[Snokus]

The Norweigan players in the Swedish leage is doing pretty well.
Höiland have been the best right defender both this season and last season.
If he was a swede he wouldn defently play in our national team.

Petter Furutseth-Olssen got a great start in Örebro but after their financial problems he have been quite "unsettled" wanted to leave for Hammarby. He is now sold for Hammarby and scored one of their goals last night against Malmö. He can surely be a strong contender for top scorer next year.

Pa-Modou Kah in AIK Solna was hailed as a savior (like every other player sign by AIK Solna, apperently they only sign "world class players") but have not proven to be so good, and rumors says that AIK is looking to free up some money by selling him.

Karl-Oskar Fjörtoft in Hammarby had a great season last year and was one of the reasons for Hammarby finishing 2:nd. This year he been having problems with injuries and have not met the expactations he set after last year.

Theese are the norweigan players in Allsvenskan i know enough to write about.

[tiger78]

Snokus, be sure there are ppl interested in Allsvenskan, me a lot for exemple
Can you tell me how is financial situation about swedish clubs? Who are the reachest and who have great problems etc.

And what about Malmo of next year? Do you think they have plans to build a stronger team and try to qualify for Champions League or they are gonna sell best players like Dif did this year? For what i see with last players bought it seems your team is the reachest of Allsvenskan... wrong impression?

Situation in Swedish Cup?

[Snokus]

I would never had imagine that people outside Sweden would care.

The financial status yes..

This is a quite interesting story.
At the moment there are no "rich" club in Allsvenskan. IFK Göteborg, Helsingborg and AIK Solna all made a fortune by playing in Champions Leage but they have spent it all. The overhead cost for Allsvenska clubs is also way to high.

I would say that Malmö is currently one of the wealthies clubs in Sweden. We got about € 9.5 millions when we sold Zlatan Ibrahimovich a couple of years back, and another 1-1.5 when he was sold from Ajax to Juventus. Most of the clubs in allsvenskan are in big dept, in Helsingborg the local goverment (according to my dictionary the word was "municipality" but i have never heard it?) with a loan of about €4 millions.

When Malmö was relegated back in 1999 (for the first time in history by result, they have been forced down once about 60 years ago for paying money to the players) they club managment set 2 goals for the new managment.
In shortterm to be established as a top Swedish club
In lonterm to be a stable European team (that is to advanced to CL every now and then and not to be knocked out in the first round)

I think that the shortterm goal has been established. We were instantly promoted to Allsvenskan in 2000, finished 9:th in 2001, 2:nd in 2002, 3:rd in 2003 and hopefully 1t in 2004.

With the long term signings of well known names like Alfonso Alves (€1 millions from Ögryte, 4 years contract) and Daniel Andersson (€0.5 millions from Palermo, 5 year contract) together with providing our local players like Olof Persson with long (5 years contract) and then take advantage of our good name in the africa region by signing Samuel Barley (voted 2:nd best in Sierra Leone, at the age of 17, only beaten by Inter´s Martins) i think that the managment really try to do a longterm plan to qualify for Europe.

The problem with Djurgården was that their topplayers (Kim Källström and Andreas Isaksson) was that they were owned not by Djurgården, but by an external investor company. They see only shorterm winnings and decided that it was time to sell the players.

The Swedish cup do not have any prestige at all at the moment. A game in the cup could be attented by 10% of the attendance in the same game in the Allsvenska. Not even the players take it serious. I have no idea how it came to be this way.

[tiger78]

Thanks a lot Snokus!!!!!
If u are agree we can take this as "official" thread of Allsvenskan
so i put results from today:

IFK Goteborg-Kalmar 1-0 (Mourad 3')
Helsingborg-Landskrona 0-1 (Amuneke 75'; Helsingborg was in 10 men)
Sundsvall-AIK Solna 1-1 (0-1:Aslund 3'; 1-1: Dahlberg 74')

So IFK Goteborg is still in 2nd position with 3 points from Malmo. In relegation zone AIK joins Orebro, while Landskrona takes gold victory and joins Orgryte 2 points upper.
Great fight for the last place that gives passport to royal league.

Snokus when u have time u can give some infos about IFK Goteborg and Halmstad teams and playstyle: it seems they are the only 2 teams between your team and the title....

[Snokus]

I agree to make this an "official allsvenskan" thread.

To give you some information about the playing style of Halmstad and Göteborg:

Halmstad play a very attacking fotball and have scored the most goal of all teams in Allsvenskan. The defence is almost perfect, and their midfield is controled by young uprising star Djusan Djuric, on the left wing Shabel Touma had a very successful season. Their attackers Markus Rosenberg, and Ghana player Yaw Preko have also been very successful scoring about 20 goals together. The problem is that they are very up and down, after halv of the season Halmstad was in a 9 point lead, wich was quickly eaten up by Malmö and Hammarby. It seems like in most of the matches they are only able to good for 1 half, and then they loose all their play. Before Örebros keeper was sent of in the 19:th minute in their last game, Örebro manage to get some reak pressure on them.

IFK Göteborg on the other hand, they play a very defensive game. They have a strong midfield lead by old Håkan Mild, who still manage to dominate the games with his destructive playingstyle. For this season they have sign Niclas Alexandersson who have been one of the best players this season. In the offense they have signed Malmö star Peter Ijeh on a free transfer and together with young George Mourrad they are a constant treath to the defenders (that is when Peter Ijeh is in the correct mode, he have some problems with his attitude). Ifk Göteborg won 7 games in a row, before loosing to Elfsborg, but yesterday they manage to get a new win. Almost every of thoose 7 games was won with only 1 goal, and they havent impressed in their play, however, they do have a really strong midfield.

It will be a very interesting finish of Allsvenskan. IFK Göteborg will play Malmö in the 25:th round and Halmstad in the 26:th and last round....

[Danish Dynamite]

Graulund!!!!!

[Snokus]

Originally Posted by Snokus

When it comes to Graulund, i can just say that i have never seen a player more lacking of fair play than him. You might think he is italian.....

[Danish Dynamite]

We want Graulund back!!!!!!!!! Helgi is ****

[Snokus]

But you have Tobias Grahn now, i heard his is playing verry well for you?

[Vidi Vici]

Snokus>>> Graulund - Helsingborg, you support Malmø. I can see the connection.

Have never seen Graulund but Grahn is a real diva, and was sold from Vålerenga because of his attitude. He was benched and played for the second team the last months for Vålerenga. He said he was one of the best strikers (that's what he played back then) in the TL, but scored 2 goals in a whole season and played pretty ****e all the time.


Btw, why do Malmø fans like to use the Ø instead of the Ö? Has it something to do with Skåne belonging to Denmark in the past?

[Snokus]

Yes, offcource their is a connection but yet, i dont think i have honestly ever seen a player with that low fair play, and i follow the italian leage every week.

Grahn is a verry talanted player no doubt about that. In Malmö he wanted to play central midfielder and he started out at that. When we then signed Daniel Andersson Grahn was moved to right midfielder and he was doing verry well. He was not satiesfied if he could not guarantees that he would play in the middle and got in a clash with current coach Tom Prahl. He was then loaned out to AGF where he have been playing central midfield and doing it good. He have not made him popular among the fans in Malmö (i guess he didnt in Vålerengen either?), especially since he left when we had a big chance to win the series and really needed him, and in a newspaper he said something like "I dont care if Malmö win 10 series, if i cannot play where i like to play".

To bad he has a way to big ego, he could have been a real star player if he had a better attitude.

The reason he wasnt allowed to play central midfield in Malmö was that he was always stoping up the ball in the midfield, our coach wants to play fast attacking.

Regarding the Ø instead of Ö, you are completly correct. It is to honor that we once belonged to Denmark. When we play against other clubs (especially thoose from Stockholm) they always sing "We give Skåne to Denmark" and all Malmö fans sing along

To be honest i think is more an image, i dont really think no one would like to belong to Denmark, but we have a verry different culture in southern Sweden and Denmark is a big part of that culture.

[Danish Dynamite]

Originally Posted by Snokus

But you have Tobias Grahn now, i heard his is playing verry well for you?

He plays central midfielder for us. He has a big ego, but as long as he scores im fine...

Helgi is lacking, slow and look's like a donkey

We need Graulund, and one day we will get him back!

[weboy]

Thanks Very Much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tiger78]

eheheheh Snokus.... unfair=italian -> I am italian but I think u have reason... and anyway i want to thank you for Sweden-Danmark at Euro 2004: u gave me great satisfaction (I am italian but my heart is for Sweden, so i was hoping for this 2-2 as i have joked my friends until match against Holland).

But you know what's strange? That here after Euro 2004 and this 2-2 (the only sad thing on this 2-2 is that i think it was loyal match, i hoped in real agreement ) unfair=Sweden!!!! Some journalists said that Frisk was "hoping" that a coin hit him so he can "take care" of Roma..... and today the most important newspaper gave half page to.... Allsvenskan!!! Guess for what? Helsingborg-Landskrona and aggression to Frisk -> a new derby is born??? Italy vs. Sweden???

By the way have u seen what happened in Udinese-Brescia with keeper injured??? I think has still to learn in unfairyness

[tiger78]

To Pyrtas: there's a place to talk about Ekstraklasa?? I have some questions also about polish football

[Ceres]

Originally Posted by Snokus

When it comes to Graulund, i can just say that i have never seen a player more lacking of fair play than him. You might think he is italian.....

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Grahn is a verry talanted player no doubt about that.

He have not made him popular among the fans in Malmö (i guess he didnt in Vålerengen either?), especially since he left when we had a big chance to win the series and really needed him, and in a newspaper he said something like "I dont care if Malmö win 10 series, if i cannot play where i like to play".

To bad he has a way to big ego, he could have been a real star player if he had a better attitude.

Originally Posted by duttend

Have never seen Graulund but Grahn is a real diva, and was sold from Vålerenga because of his attitude. He was benched and played for the second team the last months for Vålerenga. He said he was one of the best strikers (that's what he played back then) in the TL, but scored 2 goals in a whole season and played pretty ****e all the time.

I think one of the reasons that Graulund is not all that happy with the Swedish referees, is because they dont allow as much "show" as they do in Denmark... Perhaps he's a bit ill tempered, like to shout, wave his arms and discuss with the ref like an Italian primadonna, but it's because football is his passion and it's also partly this enthusiastic/devil-may-care attitude that makes him the big goalscorer he is ...He's surely very popular among the AGF fans, and so are players like Tøfting and Grahn...

But then again, AGF is known as a "madhouse", and they got the players that suits the club ... When we got Grahn on loan, he was said to be the player with the best technique at Malmø FF, and at times even their best player, that is, when he wasnt unhappy with something, like in Vålerenga (having to play as a striker and not as midfielder) and almost all the other clubs he has played at... In AGF his attitude is no problem, and he has said that the style of play in Denmark suits him better and that he would like to sign a 4 year contract with the club when his loan deal is up... He also says to the Danish newspapers that he wont return to Malmø ... and that he hopes to get back on the Swedish NT (so far he has won 4 caps, 1 goal)...

As for Graulund, then this week he was quoted for saying that he hope to return to Denmark and that the level of play is way lower in Sweden... However, this is not exactly true, since what he really said is, that the techniqual level is way lower in Sweden and the play is either very schematic, or with long ball to the forwards when they get in trouble and their tactics dosnt work... I guess it's a matter of taste, if you like technique based short-passing... or a more physical/tactical game, but it's the same "song" we get from Swedes moving to Denmark and also what I have heard from the Danish clubs looking for players to sign in Sweden...

Some of the Swedes that Danish clubs buy, have good technique... like Aubynn, (Sharbel Touma ?) and Grahn at AGF, Martin Ericsson at AaB and Stefanidis at Brøndby.... and then ther are also fighters with next to no technique, like Tobias Linderoth at FCK ...

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[Vidi Vici]

Well the position was not the problem in Vålerenga. He wanted to play striker there... It was just that he cudn't get along with the team mates, and was pissed that he was benched and played B-team matches. Players like that enever succeed in Norway.

Our top scorer, Frode Johnsen was put in the second team in the beginning of the season. He didn't complain and now he's regarded as one of the best players in the Tippeliga, and the most effective striker.