FC Porto x SL Benfica

[Quaresma07]

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Week 7
15 October, 21H GMT/4:00pm EST

Last 10 encounters

SL FC Porto 1-1 Benfica SuperLiga 2004/2005
SL FC Porto 2-0 Benfica SuperLiga 2003/2004
SL FC Porto 2-1 Benfica SuperLiga 2002/2003
SL FC Porto 3-2 Benfica Liga Portuguesa 2001/02
SL FC Porto 2-0 Benfica Liga Portuguesa 2000/01
TP FC Porto 4-0 Benfica Taça de Portugal 2000/2001
SL FC Porto 2-0 Benfica Liga Portuguesa 1999/00
SL FC Porto 3-1 Benfica Liga Portuguesa 1998/99
SL FC Porto 2-0 Benfica Liga Portuguesa 1997/98
SL FC Porto 3-1 Benfica Liga Portuguesa 1996/97

FC Porto's home record against Benfica: 52 wins-21 draws-12 defeats.

The last time Benfica won playing away to Porto was in 1991/92 with those famous two goals by César Brito.
Before that, we have to travel to 1976/77 for another away win by Benfica.

The typical result in this game: 1-0 to FC Porto (11 times)

The overall record between these two teams also favors Porto: 67 wins-45 draws-56 defeats.

[equinox24]

nice, too bad the game is 2 weeks time

[Quaresma07]

Petit will be out with a two game suspension, for step on Targino,

http://www.record.pt/noticia.asp?id=685304&idCanal=6

COMISSÃO DISCIPLINAR DA LIGA ANUNCIA CASTIGOS
Sumaríssimos instaurados a Petit, Medeiros e Sergipano

A Comissão Disciplinar da Liga Portuguesa de Futebol Profissional anunciou hoje a instauração de processos sumaríssimos a Petit (Benfica), Medeiros (V. Guimarães) e Sergipano (Marítimo).

De acordo com o documento publicado no "site" ofical do organismo, o jogador do Marítimo, que cuspiu na cara de Ricardo Costa, tem proposta uma "pena de dois jogos de suspensão e multa de quinhentos euros."

Para Petit, que entrou de pitons em riste à perna de Targino, a proposta é também de dois jogos, com uma multa de mil euros.

Medeiros, por seu turno, tem proposta uma pena de dois jogos e multa de 750 euros, depois de ter pisado Petit de forma propositada.

Boavista e Naval multados

Também sobre o Boavista e a Naval pendem multas de 750 e 500 euros, respectivamente, devido a incidentes descritos nos relatórios policiais.

Data: Terca-Feira, 4 de Outubro de 2005 18:50:00

INFORMAÇÃO COMPLETA NA EDIÇÃO IMPRESSA DE Record

[equinox24]

Good News For Us Again ^_^

[sporting213]

Jorge Costa should start this game. Is he still injured?

[hugetomatoes]

Good News For Us Again ^_^

if it was MacCarthy instead of petit the suspension would end 2 or 3 days before the game...:rolleyes:

[Quaresma07]

Jorge Costa should start this game. Is he still injured?

I think he is still injured.

[Bossanova]

if it was MacCarthy instead of petit the suspension would end 2 or 3 days before the game...:rolleyes:

yeah right mccarthy was always getting suspended last season (with good reason most times)

and what about that year that deco got a 3 match ban for the smallest reason (i cant remember the exact incident), and that would mean he would miss the benfica game. this was when mourinho was there, and the whole world said deco should only get a 1match ban-if that, and in the end the fpf had to change the ban to a 2 match ban. even camacho at the time said that deco should play

and petit should be banned for 3 games and fined for that challenge, he could have done targino a huge injury (unlike mccarthy who elbows people, but doesnt try to injure them for months)

[hugetomatoes]

and what about that year that deco got a 3 match ban for the smallest reason (i cant remember the exact incident), and that would mean he would miss the benfica game. this was when mourinho was there, and the whole world said deco should only get a 1match ban-if that, and in the end the fpf had to change the ban to a 2 match ban. even camacho at the time said that deco should play


he threw his shoe at the referee!!! that's a very serious reason. it's like trying to punch your father but in a sport:laugh

[Bossanova]

he threw his shoe at the referee!!! that's a very serious reason. it's like trying to punch your father but in a sport:laugh

was it that?

i cnt remember..anyways he didnt throw his shoe directly at the ref, and i dnt think it hit him lol

and if it did maybe itd knock some sense into him

[quaresma420]

hahahah he threw his shoe hahahah man that must of been hilarious, if i saw that live i would of houled hard !

[Mercurial]

Benfica is gonna win this one!! easy

[Portista Sempre]

Benfica is gonna win this one!! easy

:laugh That is what we have been told every year, and we always end up beating you guys.

I think the result will be 2-1 for Porto, we will have P. Emanuel back and I think it will be a big boost for this shakey defence.

[MeTaL]

Benfica is gonna win this one!! easy

i agree! :devil

[DvA]

Tough game, but i don't expect more than a tie, Benfica always choke in Derbies

[Quaresma07]

It looks like Petit's suspension doesn't go into effect until after the Porto game. :rolleyes:

http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/noticia.php?id=593479&div_id=1456

[Quaresma07]

Benni got hurt again playing for South Africa. Might be out of the clássico...

http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/noticia.php?id=593718&div_id=1304

[MeTaL]

It looks like Petit's suspension doesn't go into effect until after the Porto game. :rolleyes:

http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/noticia.php?id=593479&div_id=1456

:clap thank god!

[Mercurial]

Benni got hurt again playing for South Africa. Might be out of the clássico...

http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/noticia.php?id=593718&div_id=1304

exelent news man!! petit in, benni out :cool its gonna be easyer than i thought:laugh

[hugetomatoes]

yaaay, god bless that african football fighting style!!!:clap :laugh

[Sandriinha]

this should be a very good game
can't wait to see it.


VIVA O BENFICA, VIVA O GLORIOSO!

[equinox24]

lets use....

-----------------------Baia------------------
--Sonkaya----Emanuel*----Costa---Peixoto--
----Quaresma----Ibson-----Lucho--Jorginho--
---------------Postiga---Lisandro------------

4x4x2 wouldn't be that bad agaisnt benfica, if luch and ibson play the right spots, and not pushing up like whores, we are capable of stoping petit-fernandes

[F.C._Porto]

lets use....

-----------------------Baia------------------
--Sonkaya----Emanuel*----Costa---Peixoto--
----Quaresma----Ibson-----Lucho--Jorginho--
---------------Postiga---Lisandro------------

4x4x2 wouldn't be that bad agaisnt benfica, if luch and ibson play the right spots, and not pushing up like whores, we are capable of stoping petit-fernandes

dnt think their is too much to worry about from those two players... manuel fernandes has his days but he can be held by defenders...and petit, hes not even good, he just is ultra aggresice which is why he gets as many cards as he does and in a heated affair it wont take long from teh ref to start watchin him closely

[Simaofan-20]

Tough game, but i don't expect more than a tie, Benfica always choke in Derbies
last season we played in 5 derbies 3 against Sporting 2 against Porto we lost to Sporting and beat them twice and we tied Porto twice last season

anyways heres our lineup i think shoudl be in


----------------Moreira------------------
Nelson----Luisao--------R.Rocha------Leo
----------Petit----------M.Fernandes-----
Karagounis--------------------------Simao
---------------Miccoli---------------------
------------------Nuno Gomes-------------

vs what somethign like this?

------------Postiga-----Lopez-------------
Quaresma----Ibson------Lucho-----Jorginho
Peixoto----P.Emanuel----R.Costa----Sonkaya
--------------------Baia--------------------

something like that right?Just going off what someone else said

and another thing how does Petit suck?hes the best defensive Midfielder in Portugal:ninja

[DvA]

if it wasn't portuguese cup u would tie vs sporting, not win, don't forget that

[Simaofan-20]

bah we still won lol

[DvA]

i don't consider it a win, we only won 1 derby of the 5 last season, that's the truth. Games have 90 minutes

[Bossanova]

last season we played in 5 derbies 3 against Sporting 2 against Porto we lost to Sporting and beat them twice and we tied Porto twice last season

anyways heres our lineup i think shoudl be in


----------------Moreira------------------
Nelson----Luisao--------R.Rocha------Leo
----------Petit----------M.Fernandes-----
Karagounis--------------------------Simao
---------------Miccoli---------------------
------------------Nuno Gomes-------------

vs what somethign like this?

------------Postiga-----Lopez-------------
Quaresma----Ibson------Lucho-----Jorginho
Peixoto----P.Emanuel----R.Costa----Sonkaya
--------------------Baia--------------------

something like that right?Just going off what someone else said

and another thing how does Petit suck?hes the best defensive Midfielder in Portugal:ninja

nope

benfica 0-1 porto
porto 1-1 benfica

[DvA]

oh i didn't even see that mistake by him, anyway i said in my last post that benfica only won 1 of the 5 derbies, people should face it, benfica always choke in derbies, I hope Ricardo Rocha doesn't play

[Bossanova]

derbies are important, but nos as importnat as people make out

id rather lose to benfica and win the title than beat benfica 5-0 twice and have benfica win the title

of course its nice to beat your rivals, but 3 points are 3 points

[equinox24]

I think this is good news for Porto;

Emanuel is back, but so is J.Costa and both are able to play agaisnt Benfica.

http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/noticia.php?id=594563&div_id=1304

[equinox24]

I don't know if this is true, but; looks like the following players are out of this one.

Postiga
Lucho
McCarthy
Ivanildo
Quaresma
Raul Meireles
Hugo Almeida
Paulo Ribeiro
Marek Cech

[Bossanova]

lucho played last night, and seemed ok
mccarthy is a doubt

dunno about the rest

[Simaofan-20]

nope

benfica 0-1 porto
porto 1-1 benfica
it wasnt a mistake it was put there purposely because it SHOULD have been a tie

[Quaresma07]

this game going be crazy...can't wait.

I wouldn't play Jorge Costa tho...still rusty and put in a this type of game...I wouldn't play him.

[Bicho]

In my opinion this is the best lineup for slb:

----------------Moreira------------------
Nelson----Luisao--------Anderson------Leo
----------Beto----------M.Fernandes-----
Miccoli------------------------------Simao
--------Mantorras-------Nuno Gomes------


Porto can't win this match!

[Quaresma07]

lucho played last night, and seemed ok
mccarthy is a doubt

dunno about the rest

there not hurt...just weren't available for training

These players are unavaible for the training sessions:
Lucho González (Argentina), McCarthy (África do Sul), Quaresma, Raul Meireles, Hugo Almeida, Paulo Ribeiro e Ivanildo (sub-21), Hélder Postiga (AA), Marek Cech (sub-21 Eslováquia)


as well Helder Barbosa and Hugo Marques have been called up from the B team.

[Mercurial]

In my opinion this is the best lineup for slb:

----------------Moreira------------------
Nelson----Luisao--------Anderson------Leo
----------Beto----------M.Fernandes-----
Miccoli------------------------------Simao
--------Mantorras-------Nuno Gomes------


Porto can't win this match!

wtf?? beto over petit?? are u crazy :ninja


this should be:

..........................Moreira
Nelson............Luisao.......Anderson.......Leo

.....................Petit.......M.Fernandes
Karagunis......................................... ..Simão
...................Miccoli.......Nuno Gomes

than Mantorras before the 65mins sub one of the FW

[Bicho]

wtf?? beto over petit?? are u crazy :ninja


this should be:

..........................Moreira
Nelson............Luisao.......Anderson.......Leo

.....................Petit.......M.Fernandes
Karagunis......................................... ..Simão
...................Miccoli.......Nuno Gomes

than Mantorras before the 65mins sub one of the FW


lol...Mantorras before the 65mins...:laugh
If petit plays,then benfica will play with 10 players in the second half(at least)
Beto is a great centre midfield...(not a right back)

[MisterX]

My Benfica Starting XI

Moreira

Nelson - Anderson - Luisão - Leo

Karagounis - Petit - M.Fernandes - Simão

Nuno Gomes - Miccoli

What the. What a coincidence. I just noticed my team is the same as Mercurial. lol.

[Mercurial]

lol...Mantorras before the 65mins...:laugh
If petit plays,then benfica will play with 10 players in the second half(at least)
Beto is a great centre midfield...(not a right back)

whats so funny about it?? he never started a game this season, so why would he do it against Porto? nuno and miccoli are ok, than mantorras can sub one of them if they are not playing well, but it gotta be before the 65 mins because koeman always plays him for only 10 mins, he needs to play more and than mybe become a starter

[MisterX]

I think he found it funny because he knows Koeman is most likely to use him for only 10 minutes anyway (as you said) rather than actually giving him a proper chance. If Benfica is down and they need a goal then he should be brought in before 65 mins for sure. However don't count on Koeman to realize this.

[DvA]

lol...Mantorras before the 65mins...:laugh
If petit plays,then benfica will play with 10 players in the second half(at least)
Beto is a great centre midfield...(not a right back)
and i'm the new Eusebio:USA_Blue

[Mercurial]

yea, thats the big mistake of some managers, wen a player is playing bad they prefer to continuo with him and only change him if the team stars to lose. but why wait for that? they should change it from the start so they can fight for a win! é preciso ter colhões!

[MisterX]

Correction: Beto WAS a great central midfielder. I believe he only had one decent match in all of the competitive year. If that.

[Mercurial]

c'mon guys, stop beating on the blind guy, he was playing verry well till his nightmare in manchester!!

[Bicho]

Beto in the correct position is a great player!(that match against chelsea...ai ai...)

[Bicho]

The inteligent coach put mantorras in this game...
he has the moral on the top...
But if koeman want to end in a draw...then it's better start without mantorras. of corse...that's my opinion... :)

[DvA]

c'mon guys, stop beating on the blind guy, he was playing verry well till his nightmare in manchester!!
once again i say i'm the new eusebio..beto was always a pice of crap, i'm saying this since he joined us, he was always a big piece of sh1te and won't ever change ffs look all his performances, friendles not included, he didn't have any positive note so far, and in the mst famous and respected Portuguese blog(better than most of the portuguese newspapers) terceiro anel they said exactly what i think, Beto is by far the worst player of benfica and is too bad to play for us.

[Mercurial]

once again i say i'm the new eusebio..beto was always a pice of crap, i'm saying this since he joined us, he was always a big piece of sh1te and won't ever change ffs look all his performances, friendles not included, he didn't have any positive note so far, and in the mst famous and respected Portuguese blog(better than most of the portuguese newspapers) terceiro anel they said exactly what i think, Beto is by far the worst player of benfica and is too bad to play for us.

before the man utd game i wouldnt agree with u, now im a bit confused because that game was to bad to be true, lets wait and see for next games of him...

[Quaresma07]

Moreira continues to workout in the gym might miss the game with FC Porto

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/index.asp?op=ver&noticia=89904&tema=3

[Quaresma07]

Karagounis will start for Benfica, which means Giovanni will probably be on the bench.

http://www.ojogo.pt/21-235/Artigo504066.htm

[Quaresma07]

Jorge Costa, Pedro Emanuel and Postiga Out

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=25NQ88D8K8GLH07O7RVRPWIRLY

[Quaresma07]

Benfica's Call-ups

Keepers: Quim & Rui Nereu

Defenders: Anderson, Luisão, Léo, Dos Santos, Nelson & Ricardo Rocha

Mids: Petit, Karagounis, Geovanni, Manuel Fernandes, Beto & Karyaka

Forwards: Mantorras, Simão, Nuno Gomes & Miccoli

[Quaresma07]

FC Porto's Call-ups:

Keepers: Vítor Baía & Paulo Ribeiro

Defenders: Bosingwa, Bruno Alves, Pepe, Ricardo Costa, Marek Cech & César Peixoto

Mids: Lucho Gonzalez, Ibson, Paulo Assunção, Diego & Jorginho

Forwards: Alan, Hugo almeida, Lisandro Lopez, McCarthy & Quaresma

[Mercurial]

i heard moreira is ok to play...

benfica is gonna win this one, i have a good feeling about it

[Simaofan-20]

i heard somethign about Joao Perreira but couldnt remember what happened,what happened again?

[equinox24]

our defense makes me barf. i think its the worst in the league right now..

[hugetomatoes]

Moreira won't play, Quim will start.

[Quaresma07]

Also, it seems both teams will have new sponsor logos on their jerseys for tomorrows match.

Futebol
Benfica, FC Porto e Sporting com nova publicidade nas camisolas

Nas próximas duas jornadas do campeonato da Liga, Benfica, FC Porto e Sporting terão novo logótipo na frente das respectivas camisolas, segundo anunciou o patrocinador dos três «grandes» do futebol português.

A sigla PT dará, então, lugar ao novo logótipo da TMN, numa política de gestão de patrocínio por parte do Grupo Portugal Telecom.

Source:http://www.abola.pt/nnh/index.asp?op=ver&noticia=89956&tema=1

[DvA]

Porto supporters are to stupid to be real ffs, act like normal guy, not like morons.
Bomb threat in Benfica's hotel during the night, not letting the players resting.
too scared to have a fair game? last season was a joke after the celebrations of benfica's title, now they do stuff of same kind.

Vieira denuncia ameaça de bomba e petardos junto ao hotel

Luís Filipe Vieira denunciou hoje a existência de factores desestabilizadores durante a noite em torno da unidade hoteleira onde se encontra a comitiva encarnada. Ao longo da noite, segundo o líder benfiquista, foi feita uma ameaça de bomba tendo rebentado alguns petardos entre as 3 e as 4 da manhã.

"Sabíamos que, quando viemos para o Porto, queríamos ficar aqui para mostrar que não temos problemas nenhuns. O que conta para nós é que vamos disputar um jogo no Dragão com duas grandes equipas", referiu dando conta depois dos incidentes.

[benficatime]

looks like Im the only one not lucky enough to watch the game:(

anyways im listening on radio

Miccoli left injured and now Geovanni came in:( :ninja

line-up at start

-------------------------Quim---------------------
Nelson---------Luisao-----------Anderson-----Leo
------------------Petit-----M. Fernandes-----------
Karagounis---------------------------------------Simao
----------------------Nuno Gomes--------------------
-------------------------Miccoli----------------------

line-up now

-------------------------Quim---------------------
Nelson---------Luisao-----------Anderson-----Leo
------------------Petit-----M. Fernandes-----------
Geovanni---------------------------------------Simao
----------------------Karagounis-----------------------
----------------------Nuno Gomes--------------------

[benficatime]

Lisandro injured came off for Diego

Porto's line-up at start

----------------------Baia------------------------
Bosingwa------B. Alves-----R. Costa-------C. Peixoto
----------------Ibson-----Lucho--------------------
Lisandro-------------------------------------Alan
---------------------Jorginho-----------------------
--------------------McCarthy------------------------

line - up now

----------------------Baia------------------------
Bosingwa------B. Alves-----R. Costa-------C. Peixoto
----------------Ibson-----Lucho--------------------
Jorginho-------------------------------------Alan
---------------------Diego-----------------------
--------------------McCarthy------------------------

[MisterX]

All I have to say about this match is.

:ninja

[Hurley]

the horror...the horror

[Simaofan-20]

SLB!!!! SLB!!!!! SLB!!!!!!!!! now Portistas wont be such big mouths anymore we OWNED you Nuno Golos BITCH!!!!

[MisterX]

Nuno Gomes is on fire. Like seriously. His form is insane. When was the last time anyone has seen him play that good besides this season?

[hugetomatoes]

HA HA HA FCKIN HA!!!!!!!

PORTO'S DEFENCE IS THE BIGGEST JOKE I'VE EVER SEEN!!!!
at the end of the 1st half i really thought that porto was gonna win...untill those 2 lucky goals:laugh

poor porto...:handbags

1st goal ->Bosingwa turns his back on the ball and R.Costa stays foot, leaving N.Gomes all alone waitin for th ball...:laugh ...OMG...

btw, Karyaka played very well.

[MisterX]

Koeman is lucky as hell that this match saved him his job. :laugh If Benfica lost he would have been fired.

[Hurley]

If Sonkaya played we wouldn't lose this and the Artmedia match.

[MeTaL]

82'

Os adeptos do F.C. Porto mostram lenços brancos. Muitos deles abandonam as bancadas.

sad but true...:clap

[Mercurial]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BENFICA 2 - 0 Porto

:clap :bowing :clap :bowing

NUNO GOMES :bowing


today it was baia's birthday, i hope he enjoyed the 2 presents Nuno Gomes gave to him!! hehehheheheh:laugh toma la morangos!!


WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!!!

NINGUEM PARA O BENFICA NINGUEM PARA O BNFICA........

[Mercurial]

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[sporting213]

It was like Co didn't want to win the game. Quaresma and Diego have been playing great lately and they start on the bench? What a dumb move, he deserves to go now. But i heard that Co said he never made the comments about the lenços brancos. What an ignorant FCUK!!

[Hurley]

I'm sure you'd do a better job, and yes, he said a few weeks ago that he'd leave if he saw "lenços brancos" but so what?

LFV also said that if Benfica didn't get 300 thousand more associates until October he'd leave and he's still there.

Like Pimenta Machado said once: "No futebol, o que hoje é mentira amanhã é verdade."

[Mercurial]

well, some guys are missing here :handbags where are all the tripeiros now?? heheheh

all benfica players were well to night specialy Nuno Gomes, Karyaka, Nelson, Petit, M.fernandes and the defenders Luisao Quim & Anderson.

[hugetomatoes]

i've said this before and i'll say this again... it wasn't Adriaanse's fault, it was the crappy defenders fault!!!!
Bosingwa- hardly seen him in the game except in one or 2 fouls at simão
R.Costa-laughable
B.Alves- WWE trialist and laughable
C.Peixoto- doesn't defend, open wing for Giovanni in the 2nd half. hardly seen in the game.

loved to see Veiga laughing at all those portistas hehehe.

[hugetomatoes]

well, some guys are missing here :handbags where are all the tripeiros now?? heheheh

it's a bit late now...and DvA is probably on hang over from the game:laugh

[Hurley]

I don't condone what Bruno Alves did but Benfica players have the habit of being aggressive to their opponents when they get fouled. If Nuno Gomes didn't react like he did that wouldn't happen.

It's like they're the only players in the league who can't suffer fouls.

When they played played against ManU, Juventus and Chelsea they got fouled but kept their mouths shut.

[MisterX]

If Sonkaya played we wouldn't lose this and the Artmedia match. I think this is probably the first time I've seen someone say they preferred Sonkaya to Bosingwa. I might have disagreed with you before but I'm definately not now. Sonkaya now that I think about it didn't really do bad this season. He was alright actually though I did expect more from a Turkish international RB. Maybe he just needs to adjust to the league? I'm definately going to say stick with Sonkaya for now. Bosingwa should go back to being a CM/DM. Awful. No way he should be selected as starting RB after that.

[Mercurial]

it's a bit late now...and DvA is probably on hang over from the game:laugh

but DvA isnt a Tripeiro!


oh, did u guys saw that fuker b.alves, the way he fault nuno gomes and beat him???! what a moron :ninja the guy should be out of football for a long long time, i saw the game on a dutch tv channel ( yes we are very famous now lol) and they said that alves shouldnt play more till the end of the season..:laugh and for some moments they thought it was a south american league game, it was a very agressive moment from b.alves.

[hugetomatoes]

I don't condone what Bruno Alves did but Benfica players have the habit of being aggressive to their opponents when they get fouled. If Nuno Gomes didn't react like he did that wouldn't happen.

It's like they're the only players in the league who can't suffer fouls.

When they played played against ManU, Juventus and Chelsea they got fouled but kept their mouths shut.

man, in derbys there's always alot of agressivity...and against rivals they tend to not take any **** from nobody. when ricardo costa "punched" simão, simão just went to him and sais "prakek e isso caralho??!!"...not agressive at all...yet R.Costa just turned his back on him. So as you can see it's not just benfica, it's every club that has a big rivalry.

[MisterX]

i've said this before and i'll say this again... it wasn't Adriaanse's fault, it was the crappy defenders fault!!!!
Bosingwa- hardly seen him in the game except in one or 2 fouls at simão
R.Costa-laughable
B.Alves- WWE trialist and laughable
C.Peixoto- doesn't defend, open wing for Giovanni in the 2nd half. hardly seen in the game.

loved to see Veiga laughing at all those portistas hehehe.
Porto definately needs a leader in the back there. Bring back Jorge Costa is probably the best advice I can give to Porto.

[sporting213]

Another reason why Porto lost was from their set pieces. Did anyone see the corners Peixoto was producing? They were all horrible yet no one stepped up to take the corners. And hurley, I am not saying I would do a better job but if you were a coach wouldn't you be playing the players who are in great form lately?

[Hurley]

Which Porto players are in great form?

[Quaresma07]

OMG what an embarrassment.....CoA must leave But i'll give 2-3 games. Sometimes game like this boasted team performance. But i blame CoA for this game. Out 2 best D are 100% and doesn't call them up.

Second goal i blame D and Baia....Baia should have call the defender back(Ricardo Costa) and get the ball and Ricardo Costa holding Nuno Gomes back.

[Quaresma07]

Which Porto players are in great form?

Jorginho :laugh ...had great preseason...but now :ninja

[Quaresma07]

This picture says it all about our defense
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20051015/capt.xpd10910152308.portugal_soccer_xpd109.jpg

[MisterX]

Jorginho hasn't been crap. He has been sub-par in the last couple games but still. He certiantly wasn't anywhere close to worst man on the pitch. :laugh

Wtf was that idiot Co doing playing Alan? Bring on the gypsy! :bowing

[Quaresma07]

We should play Cech...see what he can do. Peixoto free kicks and corners are horrible...straight to Quim all game.

[Quaresma07]

1st Goal
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9OIJ9HP7
2nd Goal
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H74PKE6G

[equinox24]

Jorginho is a ******* idiot. He had a great chance..takes 20 minutes to control the ball. Almeida has a good chance on a shot on net, he makes the ball fly. McCarthy is a ******* monkey. Quaresma was useless, and peixoto shots were bad..all these players have ******* large amount of skill, so why can they show it, at home, against a huge team, a huge rival..such an important game. and now off to inter..

[Fins Prompte]

what do you mean by monkey bro? is it becuase of his color, if so, then consider this a verbal warning.

[vieri_snowman]

RTP just televised it now lol. Wasnt much in it aside from physical play. Alves should have been handed two reds lol. I was disappointed at Gounis today, hes capable of a lot more. Quaresma did well in the time he had. Miccoli's injury was unfortunate. I knew the score already so I was thinking to myself when he went down, "I bet a lot of Benfiquistas lost hope at this point." His injury isnt too bad is it?

[DvA]

what a party tonighttttttt ahahhaahah man i'm fcking druuuuunnnnkkkkkkkkkkk ahahahhaah, god bless lisbon discos and benfica

[benficatime]

RTP just televised it now lol. Wasnt much in it aside from physical play. Alves should have been handed two reds lol. I was disappointed at Gounis today, hes capable of a lot more. Quaresma did well in the time he had. Miccoli's injury was unfortunate. I knew the score already so I was thinking to myself when he went down, "I bet a lot of Benfiquistas lost hope at this point." His injury isnt too bad is it?
they say he will be out 6 months - maybe another Mantorras:ninja

[Ama2]

VIVA O BENFICA!!! there gonna take the superliga this year woooooo

[F.C._Porto]

funny how u all comment on Alves against Nuno "the menina" Gomes but say nothing concering Karagounis' dirtyist of dirty tackles against Lisandro Lopez, he had no hope of catching Lopez but decideds to tackle him anyways obviously going for his legs considering he hd not chance of getting the ball, this was a reckless tackle from behind which obviously had intent to injure, he shoulda been handed a direct red, u cant even do that in American football, u wanna play like that then go to Scotland

[F.C._Porto]

VIVA O BENFICA!!! there gonna take the superliga this year woooooo

HAHAHAHAHA :laugh :laugh :laugh

:Knob

ur still in fourth place, with two loses on the season to our one loss, still a point back of us and 4 from first, u red idiots sure love to talk

[DvA]

shutup u stupid b1tch
enjoy the moment :salute
Porto would be behind us if weren't the referees.

[DvA]

About the game, totally deserved, Porto's defense sucks, that midfield is playing very bad, i didn't even know that Alan was playing untill the end of 1st half :laugh
Nuno Gomes is on fire 7 goals, just amazing, superb game by our CB's, and Petit, Nelson is pure genious :bowing

my Rates

Quim 4
Nelson 4
Leo 3
Luisão 4
Andeson 4
Petit 5
Fernandes 4
Karagounis 1
Simão 4
Miccoli -
Nuno GOLOS 5
subs
Geovanni 4
karyaka 4
Rocha 3 (just because he only playe d a few minutes)

Porto

Baia 3
Bosingwa 1
R.Costa 1
Alves 1
Peixoto 2/3
Lucho 1/2
Ibson 3
Jorginho 2
Lisandro 2
McCarthy 3
Alan 1
subs
Quaresma 3
Diego 3
Almeida 2

[Mercurial]

what do you mean by monkey bro? is it becuase of his color, if so, then consider this a verbal warning.

:laugh give him a break, he just lost against theyr biggest rival

[DvA]

http://www.abola.pt/wdom/jogos/03/fj03.gif

[Mercurial]

RTP just televised it now lol. Wasnt much in it aside from physical play. Alves should have been handed two reds lol. I was disappointed at Gounis today, hes capable of a lot more. Quaresma did well in the time he had. Miccoli's injury was unfortunate. I knew the score already so I was thinking to myself when he went down, "I bet a lot of Benfiquistas lost hope at this point." His injury isnt too bad is it?

in the newspaper they say 3 to 5 weeks..

[Quaresma07]

CoA gotta understand this isn´t Holland, you can´t think you will score 3 or 4 goals every game, the importance of defense and the role of the defensive midfielders in Portugal is crucial, i hope Adriaanse learned something after this defeat...

[Mercurial]

funny how u all comment on Alves against Nuno "the menina" Gomes but say nothing concering Karagounis' dirtyist of dirty tackles against Lisandro Lopez, he had no hope of catching Lopez but decideds to tackle him anyways obviously going for his legs considering he hd not chance of getting the ball, this was a reckless tackle from behind which obviously had intent to injure, he shoulda been handed a direct red, u cant even do that in American football, u wanna play like that then go to Scotland

nuno the menina?? hahahahaha i only saw one player crying and it was a Porto player , lisandro!

[DvA]

Striker Nuno Gomes scored twice to give champions Benfica a 2-0 victory at Porto on Saturday and their first success on the northern club's ground in 14 years.

Benfica, recovering from their worst-ever start to a season, moved up four places to fourth in the Premier League.

They are now just a point behind Porto, who stay on 14 after their first defeat of the season and their first at home to Benfica since April 1991.

Leaders Braga stay two points clear following a 2-1 win at Rio Ave on Friday, when Nacional Madeira moved up to second on 15 points after preserving their unbeaten start to the season with a goalless draw at Vitoria Guimaraes.

Sporting are fifth with 12 points but can move into second place with a home victory over Academica on Sunday.

Nuno Gomes put Benfica in front after 57 minutes at the Dragao stadium with a glancing header and doubled their lead seven minutes later with a close range shot after taking advantage of a mistake by Porto defender Ricardo Costa.

The double strike took Nuno Gomes's tally to seven goals at the top of the Premier League scoring charts.

Both teams finished with 10 men after Porto defender Bruno Alves was sent off for a tackle on Nuno Gomes on 81 minutes and Benfica's Brazilian defender Leo was given his marching orders for two bookable offences four minutes later.

The match was dubbed "The Dutch Classic" because both coaches are from the Netherlands and Benfica's win gave Ronald Koeman his seventh victory over Porto's Co Adriaanse in nine league games with the other two matches drawn

[Bossanova]

Jorge costa said about del neri "com este treinador nao vamos a lado nenhum"

i say about adriaanse the same thing

i really dislike his style of play and his decisions

postiga and emanuel were both fit and were not called up

bosingwa cant defend, hes a great dmc, but an awful rb, what was he doing in the first goal???

and as for bruno alves...he was aggressive, but nuno maria got up like he was looking for a fight and bruno alves did not go to headbutt gomes but to go face to face to him...just like keane or rooney do every week, they butt heads but the other player head butts them back...but nuno maria cos hes so tough flies to the floor

leoi should have been sent off before he eventually was
karagounis should have seen red

lisandro :bowing

why didnt quaresma start?

its easy to beat porto nowadays, just defend and counter, benfica did not win the match, we handed it to them

we were just plain awful really

[DvA]

LUCÍLIO BAPTISTA (8)
Muito boa arbitragem, árbitros auxiliares incluídos. Segurança disciplinar, impecáveis decisões técnicas.


TRIBUNAL O JOGO
Apenas erros disciplinares

Depois de ter passado uma época sem arbitrar qualquer clássico, Lucílio Baptista regressou, com nota positiva, aos jogos de risco elevado. Sem erros técnicos, os únicos deslizes foram cometidos no capítulo disciplinar, embora tenha cumprido a lei no caso principal, o da expulsão de Bruno Alves.

Árbitro: Lucílio Baptista (Setúbal)
Assistentes: José Cardinal e Luís Salgado


O CASO

81' Bruno Alves entra sobre Nuno Gomes e logo a seguir, perante a reacção do avançado do Benfica, responde, encostando-lhe a cabeça. Cartão vermelho imediatamente mostrado. Julgamento correcto do árbitro?


JORGE COROADO

BEM

Correctíssima a acção do árbitro. A falta cometida, seguida de agressão à cabeçada, foi mais do que merecedora de cartão vermelho. É bom realçar que, já antes desta falta, o mesmo jogador tinha cometido outra merecedora da mesma sanção.


SOARES DIAS

BEM

Não há qualquer discussão sobre a justiça da ordem de expulsão dada a Bruno Alves. O jogador do FC Porto agrediu Nuno Gomes com uma cabeçada e por isso não restava ao árbitro outra alternativa que não fosse a exibição do cartão vermelho.


ROSA SANTOS

BEM

Não há dúvida que é uma entrada intempestiva de Bruno Alves, com procedimento incorrecto, sobre Nuno Gomes. O cartão vermelho não é exibido devido à falta, mas antes a uma tentativa de agressão com a cabeça a uma reacção de Nuno Gomes.


ANTÓNIO ROLA

BEM

Bruno Alves fez uma falta muito perigosa sobre Nuno Gomes. Quando este se levantou e se dirigiu ao faltoso, o jogador do FC Porto agrediu Nuno Gomes com uma cabeçada. Portanto, cartão vermelho bem exibido pelo árbitro.


OUTROS CASOS

30' É bem mostrado o cartão amarelo a Manuel Fernandes? E Petit, na mesma jogada, também merecia?

45' Há falta de Ricardo Costa sobre Simão à entrada da área de grande penalidade?

45'+2' Bosingwa discute a posse de bola com Nuno Gomes. O árbitro nada assinala. Decisão correcta?

72' Léo vê amarelo por falta sobre Quaresma. Merecido?

86' Léo volta a rasteirar o extremo portista. O segundo amarelo é justo?


JORGE COROADO

BEM

O cartão exibido a Manuel Fernandes é justificado pela reacção do jogador, só que esta deveu-se à inexperiência e ao não sancionamento de uma outra que sofrera segundos antes. A falta de Petit não justificava qualquer sanção disciplinar.

BEM

Ricardo Costa empurrou Simão. Falta bem assinalada.

MAL

Nuno Gomes foi empurrado por Bosingwa, falta que o árbitro, provavelmente pelo ângulo que ocupava, não vislumbrou.

BEM

Era a segunda falta de Léo na mesma zona do terreno, reincidente portanto. Justificava-se, por isso, a advertência.

MAL

Não se justificava, nem pela falta, nem pela zona, nem tão pouco pela envolvência da jogada.


SOARES DIAS

BEM

O cartão amarelo a Manuel Fernandes é bem exibido, porque este derruba o adversário. O que a Lei prevê nestes casos é a exibição do cartão amarelo. Relativamente a Petit, já não havia motivos para o sancionar disciplinarmente.

BEM

Há, de facto, falta de Ricardo Costa sobre Simão e por isso o árbitro ajuizou correctamente.

MAL

Neste caso, o árbitro esteve mal ao considerar não ter havido falta, porque Bosingwa empurrou Nuno Gomes com as mãos. Havia motivo para assinalar pontapé livre directo.

BEM

Pela falta em si, não se justificava amarelo. É uma falta normalíssima. Só se justifica cartão amarelo, atendendo a que o jogador do Benfica infringiu com persistência as leis do jogo e terá sido por esse motivo que o árbitro exibiu o mesmo.

MAL

Neste lance, o jogador do Benfica comete uma infracção técnica, mas sem motivo para acção disciplinar. Não é, por isso, correcto que tenha sido admoestado com o segundo amarelo.


ANTÓNIO ROLA

BEM

Quanto a Manuel Fernandes, teve uma entrada com a sola da bota sobre a perna do adversário. Cartão amarelo bem exibido pelo árbitro. Quanto a Petit, comete uma falta normal que, por isso, não justifica qualquer sanção disciplinar.

BEM

Sim. Ricardo Costa empurrou Simão; falta bem sancionada pelo árbitro.

MAL

Não. Nuno Gomes foi desviado de poder jogar a bola. Logo ficou uma falta por sancionar contra o FC Porto.

MAL

Não. Léo fez falta, mas não se justificava a exibição do cartão amarelo.

MAL

Tal como no primeiro, Léo não merecia segundo cartão amarelo. Podemos atribuir-lhe o prémio do azar neste jogo.


ROSA SANTOS

BEM

As imagens, em parte, não são esclarecedoras relativamente à falta cometida por Petit, mas parece não ter havido razões para ver o amarelo. Já Manuel Fernandes merece em absoluto a sanção disciplinar.

BEM

Não restam dúvidas de que o central do FC Porto comete falta sobre o avançado do Benfica. Decisão correcta do árbitro.

MAL

Vê-se claramente que há um empurrão de Bosingwa sobre Nuno Gomes. Esteve mal Lucílio Baptista ao deixar seguir o jogo.

BEM

É merecido por infracção persistente às leis de jogo. Ou seja, já não tinha sido a primeira falta cometida em zonas idênticas.

MAL

O árbitro optou sempre pelo mesmo critério de mostrar o cartão amarelo em entradas por trás. Considero, mesmo assim, que o segundo amarelo é forçado devido a outras faltas que não foram castigadas com o cartão amarelo.

i don't even need to comment

[Bossanova]

leo shouted like a loon at the linesman=yellow in any league in the world

he then took down quaresma on the edge of the box, and again shouted at the ref=yellow in any part of the world

another rubbish newspaper articles written by a drunk benfiquista journalist dva

[DvA]

it's from o jogo, the northen newspaper...:laugh
all 4 ex referees, not sure if all international ones..i'm sure they're wrong, and u're right..:laugh, if that was a yellow card, the next play with r.costa vs simão would be direct red card :laugh

[Bossanova]

o jogo lately has been pissing me off

they chat such sh1t, they are as bad as a bola now

[Bossanova]

it's from o jogo, the northen newspaper...:laugh
all 4 ex referees, not sure if all international ones..i'm sure they're wrong, and u're right..:laugh, if that was a yellow card, the next play with r.costa vs simão would be direct red card :laugh

i always hear so called experts and ex referees on the television and they know as much as the drunk guy sitting in the corner of a pub

like the sport tv commentator said yeserday "isso pode dar penalty" and the other one rightly said "nao porque a bola nao esta em jogo"

idiots the lots of them

[Quaresma07]

Ok I'll play along...
Co: No White flags were waved by Porto fans. Only white plastic bags, white paper bags etc. The only white flags waved were by Benfica fans...or Boavista fans disguised as Porto fans

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/5393/untitled9bd1.png (http://imageshack.us)
See the picture above, they're white bags. It's different you know :rolleyes:

[MisterX]

Poor Porto. :laugh I know that I have said before that Co was the main for Porto when it comes to domestic competition but wasn't for European competition. However now I don't think he's the man for them at all to carry the team forward. I still think Koeman sucks though but personally I think Koeman now is doing a better job for Benfica considering Benfica is better in Europe now AND they are only one point behind Porto domestically. So I'll give Koeman that much. He has improved but I still don't think he's the man yet. He needs to show me more for me to have confidence in him.

Personally I think that Co needs to axe the 4-3-3 setup and go with 4-4-2. I think it could work better. I know that I was keen on Ricardo Costa... to the point of even thinking he warranted a NT callup but after that game I'm not happy with him. Baia I think could still do well if he has a competent defense, C.Peixoto was doing so well but just had this lackluster game (however he certaintly was far from worst man on pitch. His game wasn't that bad), Put Quaresma in instead of Alan and take out Diego in favour of Lisandro and play 4-4-2.

------------------V.Baia-----------------

Sonkaya - P.Emanuel - J.Costa - C.Peixoto

Quaresma ---- Ibson - Lucho ---- Jorginho

----------McCarthy --- Lisandro----------

[Quaresma07]

he should play Postiga.

I believe Postiga has learned his lesson

[DvA]

i would use

-----------------Helton------------------

Sonkaya---Emanuel---J.Costa----Marek Cech

--------Raul Meireles---Ibson--------------

Quaresma-------Diego/Jorginho------Peixoto

-----------------Mccarthy--------------

[DvA]

i always hear so called experts and ex referees on the television and they know as much as the drunk guy sitting in the corner of a pub

like the sport tv commentator said yeserday "isso pode dar penalty" and the other one rightly said "nao porque a bola nao esta em jogo"

idiots the lots of them
i was watching the game in a kind of restaurant (chimarrão), with more than 100 persons there, i was with G.postal and around 20 friends of mine, lots of them Sporting fans, and even them said that was a ridiculous yellow card, and they were cheering for Porto. everybody in the restaurant was laughing of the referee in that decision.

And even when thE decision is doubtfull the ex referees of "O jogo" have different opinions, but in this one was so clear that all had the same one

[Quaresma07]

he should play Marek Cech...he could good..nobody knows..he never plays him.

[MeTaL]

Ok I'll play along...
Co: No White flags were waved by Porto fans. Only white plastic bags, white paper bags etc. The only white flags waved were by Benfica fans...or Boavista fans disguised as Porto fans

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/5393/untitled9bd1.png (http://imageshack.us)
See the picture above, they're white bags. It's different you know :rolleyes:

anyone got the video of these happening?!

[MeTaL]

what was up with the new sponsor for the game?!

[Quaresma07]

what was up with the new sponsor for the game?!

I don't know...sporting is doing to same today as well..I think

[Bossanova]

hopefully the tmn logo will only be for one game, the kits looked ugly, especially benficas, red and baby blue do not mix!!

[DvA]

yup, that was the uggliest logo i ever seen

[Simaofan-20]

the kits are for 2 more games for Porto and Benfica

Leo shouldnt have gotten a second yellow card

Alves clearly headbutted Nuno Gomes

Porto's defence sucks

Lisandro is a cry baby

Quaresma sucks

Benfica was proven to be the better team

[Hurley]

the kits are for 2 more games for Porto and Benfica

Leo shouldnt have gotten a second yellow card

Alves clearly headbutted Nuno Gomes

Porto's defence sucks

Lisandro is a cry baby

Quaresma sucks

Benfica was proven to be the better team

You're just jealous that your latest foreign signing didn't show any frustration for not being able to play a match against their team's main rival. lol

[Simaofan-20]

why would i be jealous for?i want a player that isnt badly hurt as he seems to cry?he was walking after the foul and he was crying.....hes a cry baby

[EeE]

SIMAO sucks ,big time .

[Bossanova]

lisandro crying shows he wants to play, and that he likes the club

very few players seem to actually love the club

i know diego is another one who loves porto

[F.C._Porto]

why would i be jealous for?i want a player that isnt badly hurt as he seems to cry?he was walking after the foul and he was crying.....hes a cry baby

Eusebio cried after the semis against England in '66 lets go make fun of him u id!ot...

[MisterX]

Eusebio cried after the semis against England in '66 lets go make fun of him u id!ot...
Everyone was laughing at Cristiano Ronaldo for crying at the end of Euro 2004.

[F.C._Porto]

shutup u stupid b1tch
enjoy the moment :salute
Porto would be behind us if weren't the referees.

theirs a funny line...u guys won and ur still blamin the refs usually this is only when u guys lose... which has been pretty common in the past 14 years...

[F.C._Porto]

Everyone was laughing at Cristiano Ronaldo for crying at the end of Euro 2004.

but to say that benficas greatest idol ever cried has more an impact then saying that an ex-sporting star did

[equinox24]

theirs a funny line...u guys won and ur still blamin the refs usually this is only when u guys lose... which has been pretty common in the past 14 years...

lol i do agree with that.:bowing

[MeTaL]

i cried when benfica won on saturday... so...
sometimes u just need a good cry! :laugh

[Hurley]

Ok I'll play along...
Co: No White flags were waved by Porto fans. Only white plastic bags, white paper bags etc. The only white flags waved were by Benfica fans...or Boavista fans disguised as Porto fans

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/5393/untitled9bd1.png (http://imageshack.us)
See the picture above, they're white bags. It's different you know :rolleyes:


You (and everybody else...including the press) completely missed the point.

He said they were people from Benfica because they weren't true Porto fans as they were only doing harm to the club.

It's quite simple really.

[Bossanova]

hurley ive noticed you are doing your best to stick by adriaanse, and normally i try to stick by the manager, but we're fvcked unless he stops being so stubborn

adriaanse always says "i play my way, and dont change for anybody"

thats stupid, even mourinho at chelsea, or rijaard at barca, with 2 of the best teams in the world, they change tactics depending on who they play

adriaanse also seems to choose his team by chance, in pre season he played emanuel, meireles, postiga, and they all got injured, and he had to replace them and now he wont bring them back into the team

he plays alan who miss places 70% of his passes
he doesnt play any dmc
he plays players bosingwa, peixoto, lucho, ibson, jorginho, lisandro, all out of position

and since the start of the season i have notcied when we get hit on the counter its usually 2 on 2

if we keep playing like this then we are going nowhere

im just keeping my mouth shut for the next 2 games to see what happens

but things dont look good

[DvA]

theirs a funny line...u guys won and ur still blamin the refs usually this is only when u guys lose... which has been pretty common in the past 14 years...
I blame the referee in each game they rob us, no matter if we win or lose, in he last decades since Porto has Pinto ad Costa as chairman we have reasons to complain, because every person in Portugal know that he was/is corrupt and bribed referees, there are prooves about that, referees already said that, but our courts are also corrupt so he is free to continue as Porto's president, only in our country these things happen, like Fatima Felgueiras stole money, and escaped to brazil, is now Felgueiras' city president, or like Valentim Loureiro in Gondomar/Boavista.

[Hurley]

hurley ive noticed you are doing your best to stick by adriaanse, and normally i try to stick by the manager, but we're fvcked unless he stops being so stubborn

adriaanse always says "i play my way, and dont change for anybody"

thats stupid, even mourinho at chelsea, or rijaard at barca, with 2 of the best teams in the world, they change tactics depending on who they play

adriaanse also seems to choose his team by chance, in pre season he played emanuel, meireles, postiga, and they all got injured, and he had to replace them and now he wont bring them back into the team

he plays alan who miss places 70% of his passes
he doesnt play any dmc
he plays players bosingwa, peixoto, lucho, ibson, jorginho, lisandro, all out of position

and since the start of the season i have notcied when we get hit on the counter its usually 2 on 2

if we keep playing like this then we are going nowhere

im just keeping my mouth shut for the next 2 games to see what happens

but things dont look good

I acknowledge all the mistakes Adriaanse has been doing, but three defeats (that could have gone either way) against decent opposition and two ties at two of the toughest places in the league are not enough to fire a coach, especially when it's the 4th we have in a year and three months.

Things aren't as bad as they seem man, our problems can easily be solved, if you and I are able to notice where they are and how to fix them, I'm sure that a professional coach with twenty years of experience can do it too.

[Hurley]

I blame the referee in each game they rob us, no matter if we win or lose, in he last decades since Porto has Pinto ad Costa as chairman we have reasons to complain, because every person in Portugal know that he was/is corrupt and bribed referees, there are prooves about that, referees already said that, but our courts are also corrupt so he is free to continue as Porto's president, only in our country these things happen, like Fatima Felgueiras stole money, and escaped to brazil, is now Felgueiras' city president, or like Valentim Loureiro in Gondomar/Boavista.

I didn't know that Portugal was the only country on earth where corruption exists and it's not punished.

[DvA]

I didn't know that Portugal was the only country on earth where corruption exists and it's not punished.
where everybody know and there are proves about yes...but i'm talking about big corruption cases and developed countries...even in Brazil they were fast arresting the guilties.

[Hurley]

You're being naive man, there's corruption in every developed country in the world and the authorities (which are corrupt aswell) know it.

[DvA]

You're being naive man, there's corruption in every developed country in the world and the authorities (which are corrupt aswell) know it.
yeat they don't come to TV and say what happened, and nothing happens like here. i know there are corruption everywhere but not so well known like Portugal, it's a shame what's happening, the apito dourado case started how many years ago? how many people are arrested because of that? none, look the casa pia case even Bibi is going out of the jale :ninja

[F.C._Porto]

I blame the referee in each game they rob us, no matter if we win or lose, in he last decades since Porto has Pinto ad Costa as chairman we have reasons to complain, because every person in Portugal know that he was/is corrupt and bribed referees, there are prooves about that, referees already said that, but our courts are also corrupt so he is free to continue as Porto's president, only in our country these things happen, like Fatima Felgueiras stole money, and escaped to brazil, is now Felgueiras' city president, or like Valentim Loureiro in Gondomar/Boavista.

slow down a minute their DvA... their have been no charges laid against any member of Porto's excecutive staff, including PDC, God bless him. and their is actually no proof of any porto staff doing anything illegal. But if we quickly look to Benito Mussolini in Italy we look at a dictator who favoured AC Milan, this club was an unstopalbe power house in Italy and abroad in these days... and do u know why??? Well if u guessed because it was favoured by the countries dictator then u were right.

Which reminds me of another dictator named Antonio Salazar. In case u were wondering he was the dictator of portugal up til the 70's. Can u guess what his favorite team was??? If u guessed Benfica u are once again right. What i am trying to say is that u won cuz the communist dictator of the country was a fan of your club, and even Eusebio has talked about his rules, such as how he wouldnt let him leave the club for Juventus, even though he wanted to go.

"Juventus came for me when I was 19. After the World Cup, Inter made a big offer, one which would have made me the highest-paid player in the world. And yet I was not allowed to move. Why? Salazar was not my father and he certainly was not my mother. What gave him the right? The truth was that he was my slavemaster, just as he was the slavemaster of the entire country." -Eusebio

http://www.theglobalgame.com/gleanpgl.htm

what salazar wanted is what he got
....
always

so dont talk about corruption with Porto when ur the most corrupt team to ever "grace" the Iberian Penninsula

[Mercurial]

Everyone was laughing at Cristiano Ronaldo for crying at the end of Euro 2004.

i didnt..

i think we have to respect them, we shouldnt make fun of others wen they are in a bad moment... thats just mean

[Hurley]

i didnt..

i think we have to respect them, we shouldnt make fun of others wen they are in a bad moment... thats just mean

Obviously you didn't, you were crying too :laugh

The ones who did were mostly ManU haters.

[Simaofan-20]

Eusebio cried after the semis against England in '66 lets go make fun of him u id!ot...
Eusebio had an actual big reason to cry,did you not see the game back in 66?We were robbed in that game and Eusebio had every right to cry just as much as the rest of the country did during that match he HAD a reason. Lisandro just cried because he got subbed yet he can still walk hell i seen him walk after he got subbed,yes it was a terrible slide tackle and it was wrong

[DvA]

SIMAO sucks ,big time .
huh? :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh what a moron

[Mercurial]

Obviously you didn't, you were crying too :laugh

The ones who did were mostly ManU haters.

no, i didnt cry, seriously!

i never cry because of football! but i was very sad

and im not talking just about ronaldo crying, i respect every player who does it, i dont feel good to make fun of it.. wen that porto player cryed it was a bit silly, but i didnt make fun of him. its not right

[Simaofan-20]

I wasnt making fun of him but come on why cry he has nothign to cry about hes going to be fine

[Bossanova]

lisandro cried because this is his big chance, and every time he gets his chance he seems to get injured

if you watch the match again, we were the team in control until about the 20th minute

and its no coincidence that in the 20th minute lisandro got injured and subbed

he was playing really well i think

[Bossanova]

btw, 2 things that arent really being mentioned:

a) why was petit playing? he should have been banned after his horror tackle last week
b) karagounis was lucky to have stayed on the field, the fifa rules clearly state a tackle frrom behind with no intention of palying the ball as a direct red

[MisterX]

slow down a minute their DvA... their have been no charges laid against any member of Porto's excecutive staff, including PDC, God bless him. and their is actually no proof of any porto staff doing anything illegal. But if we quickly look to Benito Mussolini in Italy we look at a dictator who favoured AC Milan, this club was an unstopalbe power house in Italy and abroad in these days... and do u know why??? Well if u guessed because it was favoured by the countries dictator then u were right.

Which reminds me of another dictator named Antonio Salazar. In case u were wondering he was the dictator of portugal up til the 70's. Can u guess what his favorite team was??? If u guessed Benfica u are once again right. What i am trying to say is that u won cuz the communist dictator of the country was a fan of your club, and even Eusebio has talked about his rules, such as how he wouldnt let him leave the club for Juventus, even though he wanted to go.

"Juventus came for me when I was 19. After the World Cup, Inter made a big offer, one which would have made me the highest-paid player in the world. And yet I was not allowed to move. Why? Salazar was not my father and he certainly was not my mother. What gave him the right? The truth was that he was my slavemaster, just as he was the slavemaster of the entire country." -Eusebio

http://www.theglobalgame.com/gleanpgl.htm

what salazar wanted is what he got
....
always

so dont talk about corruption with Porto when ur the most corrupt team to ever "grace" the Iberian Penninsula

First of all Portugal was never under Communism. Salazar was a traditional right-wing fascist dictator. Also there is no proof that Benfica was "his" team. He was a :censored for not letting Eusebio go like that but that's not proof that he did that because he was a Benfica fan. He wanted Portugal's greatest star to remain in Portugal. Nothing more, nothing less. Brazil was doing the same **** with Pele in Santos... they considered him a "national treasure" so that he wouldn't leave the nation for a big european club.

[equinox24]

btw, 2 things that arent really being mentioned:

a) why was petit playing? he should have been banned after his horror tackle last week
b) karagounis was lucky to have stayed on the field, the fifa rules clearly state a tackle frrom behind with no intention of palying the ball as a direct red

**** always goes wrong..

[F.C._Porto]

First of all Portugal was never under Communism. Salazar was a traditional right-wing fascist dictator. Also there is no proof that Benfica was "his" team. He was a :censored for not letting Eusebio go like that but that's not proof that he did that because he was a Benfica fan. He wanted Portugal's greatest star to remain in Portugal. Nothing more, nothing less. Brazil was doing the same **** with Pele in Santos... they considered him a "national treasure" so that he wouldn't leave the nation for a big european club.

its a wide-known fact that Salazar was a benfiquista, may family before me grew up under his rule and they knewn damn well he was a Red Idiot..its not like he tried to hide it... politicians have never tried to hide what team they suppport..and they still dont... just look at Silvio Berlusconi

[DvA]

its a wide-known fact that Salazar was a benfiquista, may family before me grew up under his rule and they knewn damn well he was a Red Idiot..its not like he tried to hide it... politicians have never tried to hide what team they suppport..and they still dont... just look at Silvio Berlusconi
i saw a documentary in RTP not that far ago saying he wws sportinguista, but watched most of teh games of benfica in europe due to be the glory of portuguese nationa in the 60's

[F.C._Porto]

i saw a documentary in RTP not that far ago saying he wws sportinguista, but watched most of teh games of benfica in europe due to be the glory of portuguese nationa in the 60's

not true... he was a benfica fan..ask people who lived under his rule, they'll let u know

[Bossanova]

salazar was a lisbon fan

he probably supported both sporting and benfica

but i think he leaned toward benfica

i doubt salazar was an avid football fan, he was more interested in other things

most dictators used football to be more popular, such as hitler, and mussolini, but most didnt give a feck about the sport