Who tapped him up

[Phillip Craig]

I've so far heard three names down the grape vine but nobody who I know from Newcastle will tell me who made an illegal approach for Bernard. Spurs name has been mentioned as has Fulham and Liverpool who both came in with offers during xmas. So who you do reckon it is.

[Mark]

or could it be someone foreign!?!?

[Phillip Craig]

or could it be someone foreign!?!?

not when Newcastle have reported a Premiership club no :)

[Mark]

ah good point, but why would liverpool want him?

[Phillip Craig]

ah good point, but why would liverpool want him?


He can play left back or left midfield and is damn good player (nobody at Newcastle can work out why he doesn't play week in week out). Liverpool and Fulham both put in offers at xmas but they were rejected. His contract is up in the summer but being so young nobody is allowed to talk to the player until his contract is up. We have offered him a new contract which is being considered but some club has decided to go straight to the player and tried to lure him to there club. Bernard though told Bobby and the club has now been reported. If found guilty and if it was Liverpool again they would be in deep shit after the illegal approach for Zeige which has now landed them in court, of course it might not be them but like I said I've only heard the names of those 3 clubs.

[jimlad1981]

liverpool may be intersted, but havent heard anything up here.
By the way we never made an illeagl approach to ziege his agent told us of his contract. which we found out to be true, and made a bid. all legal

[Mark]

how come the FA fined u £20k then

[jimlad1981]

god only knows, if it was an illegal approach points can be dudcted and huge fines, us lot up have no idea why we got fined. anyway thats past us know, he was so bad it wasnt funny. interesting to see who it was.

[Mark]

dunno why robson wants to keep it secret tho

[Phillip Craig]

liverpool may be intersted, but havent heard anything up here.
By the way we never made an illeagl approach to ziege his agent told us of his contract. which we found out to be true, and made a bid. all legal

thats why you got fined because you went through the agent and not through the club.

[Phillip Craig]

dunno why robson wants to keep it secret tho

He says he wants to go through the right channels and not fight it out through the media

[jimlad1981]

but is he that good anyway

[Phillip Craig]

interesting to see who it was.

was told who it was today and all I'll say is it's not the first time and in my opinon if there going to do business like this then maybe the punishment should be to not allow them to buy players for a year maybe that will teach them. They went to the player and said they would double is wages next season if he signed. Glad to see Newcastle had already matched the wages this team offered though so as long as the lads loyal he will stay.

[Phillip Craig]

but is he that good anyway

yep he's a great player already and still very young, with a bit more experience he will be fantastic.

[jimlad1981]

fair enough so i persume u r accusing liverpool?

[Phillip Craig]

fair enough so i persume u r accusing liverpool?

I would never say that (could be libal should Newcastle lose any battle they may or may not be involved in :) ) I'm just saying what I've been told off someone who *would* know.

[jimlad1981]

fair enough so i persume u r accusing liverpool?

I would never say that (could be libal should Newcastle lose any battle they may or may not be involved in :) ) I'm just saying what I've been told off someone who *would* know.

come on then who?
u wont be done for liable!

I have heard nothing here about that, doubt houllier would doing anything stupid as that.

[Phillip Craig]

come on then who?
u wont be done for liable!

I have heard nothing here about that, doubt houllier would doing anything stupid as that.

Bloke who told me the first club has since changed his mind so I'm ignoring his comments now :) (bloody make me look stupid however it seems that it's West Ham

[Mark]

yep, heard it was WH as well

[lapsed_fan]

It's over all over the net its West Ham and Newcastle will make a formal complaint to the FA next week

[Crazyhorse1977]

Thought so. Wouldnt be us. The so called 'illegal' approach to Ziege was utter b**locks. He not his agent informed Liverpool. Therefore why hasnt he been fined, that d**k head of a M'boro chairman is just making a fool of himself. Maybe he's about to be declared bankrupt or something :laugh :razz :laugh

[JawD]

Apparantly we have spoke to WH but will not report to the FA. Decided not to take any further. The club did however issue a formal warning that should any club try again they will persue it. Rightly so.

[Phillip Craig]

Thought so. Wouldnt be us. The so called 'illegal' approach to Ziege was utter b**locks. He not his agent informed Liverpool. Therefore why hasnt he been fined, that d**k head of a M'boro chairman is just making a fool of himself. Maybe he's about to be declared bankrupt or something :laugh :razz :laugh

Ziege was fined as well but Boro are going for your lot as Liverpool are a business and know the rules and if they break them they should be hit hard an £10,000 for Liverpool (or whatever it was) and a £2,000 fine for Zeige is not hitting them hard.

[Phillip Craig]

Apparantly we have spoke to WH but will not report to the FA. Decided not to take any further. The club did however issue a formal warning that should any club try again they will persue it. Rightly so.

This will only happen if he gets good answers for the West Ham Chairman, if he doesn't then the FA will know the same day.

[Mark]

was 20k for pool and 10k for ziege i think

[jimlad1981]

thats correct mark

Its going to happen a lot more with agents wanting players to move to get money for themselves, i think

[Mark]

i think they shud just forget it all and accept these things will happen, i mean 10 grand is nuttin why waste the time investigating and watsing Fa's time and money

[Phillip Craig]

i think they shud just forget it all and accept these things will happen, i mean 10 grand is nuttin why waste the time investigating and watsing Fa's time and money

they can't just forget it, it's a big thing in football. Can you imagine a small club say York just for an example as they are short of cash. They have a top player who they know will get them out of there current division and up the leagues and help the club make money. A big club then comes in, doesn't bother talking to the club goes straight to the agent and says they want to the buy the player. That will no doubt unsettle the player and could end up losing the club a promotion place and a lot of extra cash. It's not right that clubs can do this and it should be stamped out by putting bans on transfers for clubs when they do it. Then they might finally learn to stick to the rules.

[puffinjohn]

dead F*****g right Phillip!

[Chazza Muffin]

So we were the team then, getting you back for your attempts at nabbing Trevor Sinclair off us earlier on in the season methinks. Freddie Shephard has decided to take no action, probably due to the fact Bernard has either signed a new contract, or the club have agreed some sort of fee with another club. A few Geordie's on other boards really rate him, what do you lads reckon of the Frenchman?

[Mark]

I think the geordies here think pretty highly of him as well m8

[caddy]

[quoteM'boro chairman is just making a fool of himself. Maybe he's about to be declared bankrupt or something :laugh :razz :laugh[/quote]Now that would be funny they are a s**t side who buy there way out of trouble every season!!

[Phillip Craig]

So we were the team then, getting you back for your attempts at nabbing Trevor Sinclair off us earlier on in the season methinks. Freddie Shephard has decided to take no action, probably due to the fact Bernard has either signed a new contract, or the club have agreed some sort of fee with another club. A few Geordie's on other boards really rate him, what do you lads reckon of the Frenchman?


never heard a bad word against Bernard as he is really good and most Geordies would prefer him on the left and Distin in the center. As for Sinclair we never once went to the player and it's only your lot that think we went to the papers. The fact is when Newcastle want a player they normally get him. We obviously didn't want him.

[borobob]

"liverpool may be intersted, but havent heard anything up here.
By the way we never made an illeagl approach to ziege his agent told us of his contract. which we found out to be true, and made a bid. all legal !"

Take your head out the clouds mate,His agent had nothing to do with it,,He was Tapped by Liverpool FC and its representitives and thats why you were fined and thats also why Steve Gibson is taking the matter to the high court to get the rest of the money we are due.It doesnt matter how he was approached the simple matter of it all is you went to the player before you went to Boro FC,,,and thats whats illegal..


PRT ERIMUS

[Chazza Muffin]

The fact is when Newcastle want a player they normally get him. We obviously didn't want him.
And take your heads out the clouds as well mate. Due to this one season you have automatically become the club every player dreams of signing for eh? What happened to Zenden coming to you (good job he didn't) and that Distin, can't even get in the PSG first team can he. :razz

[Mark]

newcastle gettin a bit above emselves hey!!! :)

[matty]

Well Distin's got no future at PSG according to their boss which is great for us. He will join (99% certain) in the summer for £3.5m which I personally think is a bargain.

Also, nice to see some 'familiar faces' Bob and Chazza!

While it's easy to say 'we normally get our man' when we don't we keep it quiet. Approaches for Del Piero and Pires (a good few years back) and Saha were all made and failed. But I think that at the moment we would be a pretty attractive propostion to most players!

[Chazza Muffin]

Nice one Matty mate.

From what I have seen of that Distin I've never really been impressed. Looks like a fine athlete but that doesn't make a top footballer.

[borobob]

newcastle gettin a bit above emselves hey!!!


Although I hate to say it,Newcastle have every right to get above emselves,,,,,,they are 4th in the premiership and play exciting football..

[Phillip Craig]

The fact is when Newcastle want a player they normally get him. We obviously didn't want him.
And take your heads out the clouds as well mate. Due to this one season you have automatically become the club every player dreams of signing for eh? What happened to Zenden coming to you (good job he didn't) and that Distin, can't even get in the PSG first team can he. :razz


I wasn't trying to make it sound like Newcastle were loved by everyone. What I was trying to say was that once a player talks to the Newcastle board it's very rare for the deal to fall through. The Zenden deal didn't fall through it was simply that the player wouldn't say a straight yes to the club so we went and got Robert instead. We got JJ despite Man U and Arsenal coming in with offers and we got Acuna because we spoke to him before Man U did and he just couldn't say no.
As for Distin, he has been a great player is it my fault the PSG manager is crazy and selling off all the teams good players (Robert, Distin, Ronaldino, Anelka to name but a few)