Ze Germans are coming...

[Ross420]

Bayern back among the big boys

Kevin McCarra
www.guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk)

Sir Alex Ferguson would relish another bout with Real Madrid, even if he might prefer to defer the pleasure until the Champions League final. The Manchester United manager will have no objection either, should the holders Milan cross his path. There could just be one side in this year's tournament, however, that will have him yearning to take evasive action.
Even if he did not have a warm regard for Ottmar Hitzfeld, Ferguson's scrutiny would already have alighted on Bayern Munich. They charged to the Bundesliga title and have barged a course through the transfer market. They even surprised themselves with their show of financial strength. The £12m they paid Deportivo la Coruna for the Holland forward Roy Makaay is thought to be much more than had initially been budgeted. This, after all, is a club with such a distaste for extravagance that the most costly signing in their 2001 Champions League-winning side was the £4.5m right-back Willy Sagnol.

Nonetheless Uli Hoeness, the Bayern general manager who is usually caustic about the sport's financial scattiness, met Deportivo's price for Makaay. The transaction was especially significant as the club were not acting out of the desperation that is the normal cause of rampant inflation in football. They already had a well-equipped forward line and could simply have kept the dangerous Brazilian striker Elber, but sold him instead to Lyon.

Bayern may have frowned at the immediate reunion that was scheduled when the draw gave them Lyon for company in Group A but they will not be intimidated. The acquisition of Makaay was another phase in a project that has been conducted over the past year or two. The Dutch striker's arrival is the most vivid sign of the club's determination to rebuild.

Until now Bayern's murky form in the Champions League last season had helped Hitzfeld go about his work in obscurity. The side lost home and away to both Milan and Deportivo, with only a pair of draws with Lens to take with them as they hobbled out of the competition. Those results, however, may have been connected to temporary burn-out in Oliver Kahn, Thomas Linke, Jens Jeremies and Michael Ballack, who had all been heavily involved in Germany's run to the World Cup final a few months earlier.

Despite those Champions League results, the club was gathering strength and there are plenty of level-headed observers who believe Bayern now have potentially their best side since Franz Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller and the others were racking up three consecutive European Cup successes from 1974 to 1976.

Celtic, who meet Hitzfeld's side tomorrow, are relieved that several players are injured but Bayern have been striving to develop an imposing squad to cope with just this eventuality. With Bixente Lizarazu's ageing body becoming ever more vulnerable, for example, they are grooming the Germany international Tobias Rau to replace him at left-back.

There is a similar competition for places in most positions, with a newcomer such as the promising young Argentinian Martin Demichelis expected to challenge Thomas Linke and Sami Kuffour for a spot in the team. If Hitzfeld's judgment of footballers is as dependable as ever, the man who was in charge of the triumphant Borussia Dortmund in 1997 could illustrate his career's longevity by adding a third Champions League to his record.

Although a weakened line-up was beaten by Wolfsburg at the weekend, Bayern are best equipped to uphold Germany's reputation. A diminished Dortmund, winners of the Bundesliga in 2002, could not even survive the Champions League qualifiers this sea son. All the virtues that were once more widely dispersed are now vested in Bayern.

United, easily the most reliable of Britain's representatives, have a rueful respect for the German knack of balancing pragmatism and aggression. They may have overcome Bayern in hysterically improbable circumstances during the 1999 final but Hitzfeld's men won both legs of the 2001 quarter-final with United and Bayer Leverkusen got the better of Ferguson's side in the last four the following year.

It is not just United who must keep a watchful eye on Bayern. Real Madrid, who are taking their disregard for defence to deranged new levels this season, could easily fall prey to the arch-realists. There was nothing about the 2003 final either that will discourage Hitzfeld.

After an open and attractive hour at Old Trafford, Milan and Juventus reverted to Serie A type and appeared to agree to the non-aggression pact that dragged the game to a penalty shoot-out. That night marked the return of Italian football to the fore but this season may see the reawakening of the German tradition.

[Zizou]

Reawakening of German football? I highly doubt it. In fact I'm sure it won't happen ;)

[bastian]

Originally posted by Zizou@Sep 16 2003, 08:38 AM
Reawakening of German football? I highly doubt it. In fact I'm sure it won't happen ;)
why not ... germany is a big football tradition country ... remember national german team is the most succesful in europe even more succesful than italy ..three times WC champios and three times european champions.. so why a tradition football country wouldn't have a rewakening????????

[Zizou]

Even though they will do better than last year, Bayern will not win it this year. At most they will arrive to the quarters.

[bastian]

maybe .... but what will do juve.. lost another final??? :rolleyes:

[Ross420]

A winning start for Bayern :clap

It begins....

[FCBfurimmer]

Originally posted by bastian@Sep 16 2003, 05:39 PM
maybe .... but what will do juve.. lost another final??? :rolleyes:
But for example if you reach 5 finals, you are bound to win one of them!!!

I think Bayern cant win it this season, to do that they need to be all the players fit, what we all know is 99% will not happen!!!

I would like to see Juve winning it, or Inter, just realmadrid please not :bowing

[Zizou]

Originally posted by bastian@Sep 16 2003, 07:39 PM
maybe .... but what will do juve.. lost another final??? :rolleyes:
At least we do get to the final regularly :salute

[Killah]

i think only us lot have a worse finals to wins ratio than you lot

[FCBfurimmer]

It´s better to loose a final than never be in one-- eventhall as fan i would rather see them geting eliminated in semis than to loose f**kin milan by penalties...

[bastian]

Originally posted by Zizou+Sep 19 2003, 11:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Zizou @ Sep 19 2003, 11:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian@Sep 16 2003, 07:39 PM
maybe .... but what will do juve.. lost another final??? :rolleyes:
At least we do get to the final regularly :salute [/b][/quote]
bayern has won: 4........ juve: 2 :salute :salute

[Killah]

Originally posted by bastian+Sep 22 2003, 04:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 22 2003, 04:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Zizou+Sep 19 2003, 11:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Zizou @ Sep 19 2003, 11:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian@Sep 16 2003, 07:39 PM
maybe .... but what will do juve.. lost another final??? :rolleyes:
At least we do get to the final regularly :salute [/b][/quote]
bayern has won: 4........ juve: 2 :salute :salute [/b][/quote]
thought you supported stuttgart
sorry, just noticed that you support 3 teams :rolleyes:

[bastian]

i support bayern because is the team who i like the most , stuttgart because is where my grandfather born , and boca juniors because i like them too........

[bastian]

i support bayern because is the team who i like the most , stuttgart because is where my grandfather born , and boca juniors because i like them too........

[Killah]

Originally posted by bastian@Sep 24 2003, 10:47 PM
i support bayern because is the team who i like the most , stuttgart because is where my grandfather born , and boca juniors because i like them too........
well its obvious that you support that team you like the most. have you been talking to ross a lot recently ?

[bastian]

Originally posted by killah+Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian@Sep 24 2003, 10:47 PM
i support bayern because is the team who i like the most , stuttgart because is where my grandfather born , and boca juniors because i like them too........
well its obvious that you support that team you like the most. have you been talking to ross a lot recently ? [/b][/quote]
no im no talking a lot with ross ... why the question????

[Killah]

Originally posted by bastian+Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian@Sep 24 2003, 10:47 PM
i support bayern because is the team who i like the most , stuttgart because is where my grandfather born , and boca juniors because i like them too........
well its obvious that you support that team you like the most. have you been talking to ross a lot recently ? [/b][/quote]
no im no talking a lot with ross ... why the question???? [/b][/quote]
ross supports

rangers,bayern munich,leeds,man city,everton,arsenal and atletico madrid ;)

so i thought he maybe on of the reasons why you support 3 teams

[bastian]

Originally posted by killah+Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian@Sep 24 2003, 10:47 PM
i support bayern because is the team who i like the most , stuttgart because is where my grandfather born , and boca juniors because i like them too........
well its obvious that you support that team you like the most. have you been talking to ross a lot recently ? [/b][/quote]
no im no talking a lot with ross ... why the question???? [/b][/quote]
ross supports

rangers,bayern munich,leeds,man city,everton,arsenal and atletico madrid ;)

so i thought he maybe on of the reasons why you support 3 teams [/b][/quote]
no , that's not the reason and ross support a lot of teams.....do you just support barca??

[Killah]

Originally posted by bastian+Sep 26 2003, 10:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 10:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian@Sep 24 2003, 10:47 PM
i support bayern because is the team who i like the most , stuttgart because is where my grandfather born , and boca juniors because i like them too........
well its obvious that you support that team you like the most. have you been talking to ross a lot recently ? [/b][/quote]
no im no talking a lot with ross ... why the question???? [/b][/quote]
ross supports

rangers,bayern munich,leeds,man city,everton,arsenal and atletico madrid ;)

so i thought he maybe on of the reasons why you support 3 teams [/b][/quote]
no , that's not the reason and ross support a lot of teams.....do you just support barca?? [/b][/quote]
Yes

[bastian]

Originally posted by killah+Sep 26 2003, 09:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 09:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 10:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 10:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian@Sep 24 2003, 10:47 PM
i support bayern because is the team who i like the most , stuttgart because is where my grandfather born , and boca juniors because i like them too........
well its obvious that you support that team you like the most. have you been talking to ross a lot recently ? [/b][/quote]
no im no talking a lot with ross ... why the question???? [/b][/quote]
ross supports

rangers,bayern munich,leeds,man city,everton,arsenal and atletico madrid ;)

so i thought he maybe on of the reasons why you support 3 teams [/b][/quote]
no , that's not the reason and ross support a lot of teams.....do you just support barca?? [/b][/quote]
Yes [/b][/quote]
what national team do you support??????

[Killah]

Originally posted by bastian+Sep 26 2003, 10:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 10:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 26 2003, 09:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 09:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 10:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 10:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian@Sep 24 2003, 10:47 PM
i support bayern because is the team who i like the most , stuttgart because is where my grandfather born , and boca juniors because i like them too........
well its obvious that you support that team you like the most. have you been talking to ross a lot recently ? [/b][/quote]
no im no talking a lot with ross ... why the question???? [/b][/quote]
ross supports

rangers,bayern munich,leeds,man city,everton,arsenal and atletico madrid ;)

so i thought he maybe on of the reasons why you support 3 teams [/b][/quote]
no , that's not the reason and ross support a lot of teams.....do you just support barca?? [/b][/quote]
Yes [/b][/quote]
what national team do you support?????? [/b][/quote]
the country that i live in........ENG :cool

[Stevedox]

Originally posted by killah+Sep 26 2003, 10:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 10:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 10:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 10:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 26 2003, 09:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 09:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 10:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 10:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian@Sep 24 2003, 10:47 PM
i support bayern because is the team who i like the most , stuttgart because is where my grandfather born , and boca juniors because i like them too........
well its obvious that you support that team you like the most. have you been talking to ross a lot recently ? [/b][/quote]
no im no talking a lot with ross ... why the question???? [/b][/quote]
ross supports

rangers,bayern munich,leeds,man city,everton,arsenal and atletico madrid ;)

so i thought he maybe on of the reasons why you support 3 teams [/b][/quote]
no , that's not the reason and ross support a lot of teams.....do you just support barca?? [/b][/quote]
Yes [/b][/quote]
what national team do you support?????? [/b][/quote]
the country that i live in........ENG :cool [/b][/quote]
Thats a killer quote list! thought i'd add one more, go for a record sorta thing :king

[Killah]

Originally posted by Stevedox+Sep 26 2003, 11:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Stevedox @ Sep 26 2003, 11:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 26 2003, 10:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 10:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 10:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 10:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 26 2003, 09:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 09:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 10:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 10:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian@Sep 24 2003, 10:47 PM
i support bayern because is the team who i like the most , stuttgart because is where my grandfather born , and boca juniors because i like them too........
well its obvious that you support that team you like the most. have you been talking to ross a lot recently ? [/b][/quote]
no im no talking a lot with ross ... why the question???? [/b][/quote]
ross supports

rangers,bayern munich,leeds,man city,everton,arsenal and atletico madrid ;)

so i thought he maybe on of the reasons why you support 3 teams [/b][/quote]
no , that's not the reason and ross support a lot of teams.....do you just support barca?? [/b][/quote]
Yes [/b][/quote]
what national team do you support?????? [/b][/quote]
the country that i live in........ENG :cool [/b][/quote]
Thats a killer[/b[ quote list! thought i'd add one more, go for a record sorta thing :king [/quote]
good pun ;) :P

for bastian i'll answer further queries by PM as this is becoming like a chat room

[bastian]

Originally posted by killah+Sep 26 2003, 10:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 10:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Stevedox+Sep 26 2003, 11:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Stevedox @ Sep 26 2003, 11:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 26 2003, 10:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 10:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 10:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 10:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 26 2003, 09:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 09:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 10:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 10:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 26 2003, 09:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian+Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bastian @ Sep 26 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah+Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 24 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-bastian@Sep 24 2003, 10:47 PM
i support bayern because is the team who i like the most , stuttgart because is where my grandfather born , and boca juniors because i like them too........
well its obvious that you support that team you like the most. have you been talking to ross a lot recently ? [/b][/quote]
no im no talking a lot with ross ... why the question???? [/b][/quote]
ross supports

rangers,bayern munich,leeds,man city,everton,arsenal and atletico madrid ;)

so i thought he maybe on of the reasons why you support 3 teams [/b][/quote]
no , that's not the reason and ross support a lot of teams.....do you just support barca?? [/b][/quote]
Yes [/b][/quote]
what national team do you support?????? [/b][/quote]
the country that i live in........ENG :cool [/b][/quote]
Thats a killer[/b[ quote list! thought i'd add one more, go for a record sorta thing :king [/quote]
good pun ;) :P

for bastian i'll answer further queries by PM as this is becoming like a chat room [/b][/quote]
:clap :clap

[Ross420]

Originally posted by killah@Sep 26 2003, 10:10 PM
ross supports

rangers,bayern munich,leeds,man city,everton,arsenal and atletico madrid ;)


Ross does no such thing and Ill thank you to mind yo' bees-wax :nono

[Killah]

Originally posted by Ross420+Sep 28 2003, 12:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ross420 @ Sep 28 2003, 12:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah@Sep 26 2003, 10:10 PM
ross supports

rangers,bayern munich,leeds,man city,everton,arsenal and atletico madrid ;)


Ross does no such thing and Ill thank you to mind yo' bees-wax :nono [/b][/quote]
notice the ;)

[Ross420]

Originally posted by killah+Sep 28 2003, 11:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (killah @ Sep 28 2003, 11:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Ross420+Sep 28 2003, 12:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ross420 @ Sep 28 2003, 12:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-killah@Sep 26 2003, 10:10 PM
ross supports

rangers,bayern munich,leeds,man city,everton,arsenal and atletico madrid ;)


Ross does no such thing and Ill thank you to mind yo' bees-wax :nono [/b][/quote]
notice the ;) [/b][/quote]
notice the :nono

:laugh

[Dandy]

Ross supports like half of the teams in Europe. :rolleyes:

[Ross420]

Originally posted by The Southern Dandy@Oct 5 2003, 01:58 AM
Ross supports like half of the teams in Europe. :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:

[Dandy]

Oh, c'mon. You make all those stupid Ballack threads on IGN, yet you can't take a joke?

I'll let you in on a secret: Ballack isn't the best midfielder in Europe.

[Ross420]

Originally posted by The Southern Dandy@Oct 5 2003, 04:15 PM
Oh, c'mon. You make all those stupid Ballack threads on IGN, yet you can't take a joke?

I'll let you in on a secret: Ballack isn't the best midfielder in Europe.
OIC so youre an IGNer?!

:clap

Whats your ID?

Plus, Ballack is the no1 attacking midfielder in the World :king

I believe it to be true :devil

[bastian]

:P :P :laugh

[orswich]

What the hell is IGN?

[Ross420]

Originally posted by orswich@Oct 6 2003, 11:19 PM
What the hell is IGN?

www.ign.com (http://www.ign.com)

:king