Danish League 2003-2004

[CeresRoyal]

Since there are Danish clubs in the European Prediction League (by Pyrtas), I think I'll try to give some Info on the Danish League - Superligaen....feel free to ask...

Danish League 2003-2004 standings (6 games)

1.Esbjerg............... 6..4 2 0..13 - 6..14
2.FC København..... 6..4 1 1..12 - 6..13
3.Brøndby.............. 6..4 1 1.. 9 - 3.. 13
4.OB Odense.......... 6..3 1 2..11 - 8..10
5.FC Midtjylland...... 6..3 1 2..10 - 9..10
6.Frem.................... 6..3 0 3.. 6 - 7....9
7.AB København..... 6..2 1 3.. 7 -11... 7
8.Viborg................. 6..1 3 2.. 8 -10... 6
9.Herfølge...............6..2 0 4.. 4 - 7.... 6
10.FC Nordsjælland. 6..1 2 3.. 7 - 9... 5
11.AaB Ålborg ........6..1 1 4.. 4 - 8.... 4
12.AGF Aarhus.........6..1 1 4.. 7 -14... 4


Latest results 31/08-2003 :

FC København - AGF 4-0
1-0: Todi Jónsson (42.)
2-0: Todi Jónsson (50.)
3-0: Thomas Røll Larsen (56.)
4-0: Peter Møller (90.)
Attendance : 15323

OB - Viborg 4-2
1-0: Michael Hemmingsen (8.)
2-0: Steffen Højer (20.)
2-1: Michael Nonbo (38.)
3-1: Steffen Højer (40.)
3-2: Klaus Kærgård (70.)
4-2: Steffen Højer (71.)
Attendance : 6952

Frem - AB 1-2
0-1: Abdul Sule (35.)
1-1: Mirko Selak (39.)
1-2: Simon A. Pedersen (56.)
Attendance :3407

FC Nordsjælland - Brøndby 0-1
0-1: Mattias Jonson (30.)
Attendance : 6774

Esbjerg - FC Midtjylland 2-0
1-0: Tommy Bechmann (44.)
2-0: Hans Henrik Andreasen (83.)
Attendance : 6412

AaB - Herfølge 0-2
0-1: Jesper Sørensen (24.)
0-2: Peter Benjaminsen (47.)
Attendance : 1850

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24/08 Herfølge - AB 0-2
24/08 Esbjerg - AaB 3-2
24/08 Viborg - AGF 1-0
24/08 FC Nordsjælland - Frem 1-3
24/08 FC Midtjylland - OB 2-1
23/08 Brøndby - FC København 0-1
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17/08 AB - Esbjerg 2-4
17/08 OB - AaB 0-0
17/08 Viborg - Brøndby 2-2
17/08 Frem - Herfølge 1-0
17/08 FC København - FC Nordsjælland 2-1
16/08 AGF - FC Midtjylland 5-3
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10/08 AaB - Frem 0-1
10/08 FC Nordsjælland - OB 2-0
10/08 Herfølge - Viborg 2-1
10/08 FC Midtjylland - AB 3-0
10/08 Brøndby - AGF 2-0
09/08 Esbjerg - FC København 1-1
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03/08 AB - AaB 0-2
03/08 AGF - FC Nordsjælland 2-2
03/08 Herfølge - FC Midtjylland 0-1
03/08 Frem - Brøndby 0-2
03/08 Viborg - Esbjerg 1-1
02/08 FC København - OB 2-4
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27/07 Brøndby - Herfølge 2-0
27/07 FC Midtjylland - Viborg 1-1
27/07 FC Nordsjælland - AB 1-1
27/07 OB - Frem 2-0
27/07 Esbjerg - AGF 2-0
26/07 AaB - FC København 0-2
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Goals ( Top 10 ):

1 Steffen Højer,OB 7
2 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 6
3 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 3
3 Todi Jónsson,FC København 3
3 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 3
3 Sibusiso Zuma,FC København 3
7 Thomas Andreasen,FC Nordsjælland 2
7 Peter Graulund,AGF 2
7 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 2
7 Jonas Kamper,Brøndby 2
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Red cards so far :

1 Leon Andreasen,AGF 1
1 Morten Petersen,AGF 1
1 Nicklas Carlsson,AGF 1
1 Nikolai Stokholm,OB 1
1 Fernando Derveld,OB 1
1 Rasmus Marvits,FC Nordsjælland 1
1 Jesper Mikkelsen,FC Midtjylland 1
1 Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby 1

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Latest Transfers :

AB København ..: Mustafa Gunden,28yo (TYR 22 U/21), ? (Genclerbirligi)
Out : Mohammed Zidan 21yo (EGY-U/21) to AAB

AAB........... : David Nielsen,26yo (DEN),Norwich , Milan Timco,30yo (SVK 26 caps),Adnanspor , Trond Andersen,28yo (NOR 29 caps),Wimbledon.
Out :Christian Magleby,26yo to Viborg, Stefan Bidstrup to Viborg, Brian Priske 26yo to Genk.

AGF........... : Rune B. Pedersen,23yo (DEN),Modena , Martin Ulander,26yo (SWE 6 caps),Orgryte , Jeffrey Aubynn,26yo (SWE 7 caps),Orgryte , Niclas Carlsson 23yo (SWE),Bromma Pojkarna , Shane Cansdell-Sheriff,21yo (AUS-U/21),Leeds.
Out : Bojan Djordjic (SWE-U/21) on loan from Manchester United now to FK Crvena Zvezda.

Brøndby....... : Andreas Jakobsson,30yo (SWE 25 caps),Hansa Rostock.
Out : Mads Jørgensen (DEN 1 cap) to Ancona

Esbjerg....... : Tommy Løvenkrands (DEN), St. Johnstone.
Out: non

FC Nordsjælland: non
Out : non

FC København.. : Alvaro Santos,23yo (Brazil),Helsingborgs IF.
Out : non

FC Midtjylland : Mumoki Khadir (GHA),Mamoobi , Mohammed Zidan,21yo (EGY-U/21),AB .

Frem.......... : Jairo Antonio De Souza (Brazil) ?
Out : non

Herfølge...... : non
Out . non

OB Odense..... : Matthew Michael Jordan (USA), Dallas Burns.
Out : non

Viborg........ : Victor Ezeji (Nigeria 2 caps),Enyimba ,Christian Magleby,26yo (DEN),AAB , Stefan Bidstrup (DEN), AAB, Imants Bleidelis,28yo (LVA ? caps),Southampton.
Out: non

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Europa Cup 2003/2004:

Champions League:

Q2 : FC København - Sliema Wanderers (MLT) 4-1, 6-0
Q3 : Glasgow Rangers (SCO)- FC København 1-1, 2-1

Uefa Cup :

Qualifying Round :
Brøndby IF - Dinamo Minsk (BLS) 3-0, 2-0
FC Nordsjælland - Shirak Gyumri (ARM) 4-0, 2-0
Esbjerg - Santa Coloma (AND) 5-0 4-1
OB Odense - Tallina VMK (EST) 1-1 3-0

1. Round :
FC København (seeded), Brøndby (seeded), OB Odense (Unseeded), FC Nordsjælland (Unseeded), Esbjerg fB (Unseeded)

FC København - Ferencvaros Budapest (HUN)
Brøndby IF - FK Viktoria Zizkov (CZE)
Panionios NFC (GRE) - FC Nordsjælland
Spartak Moscow (RUS) - Esbjerg
OB Odense - FK Crvena Zvezda (SBM)

[pyrtas]

Lots of info Ceres. Good though.

It isn`t that bad with the attendance as I thought it was. 2 weeks ago I saw some danish paper (Urban it was I think) and was surprised that the att was so low (excl. FCK and Brondby games). It was 3 - 4 K no more. But now I see it is around 6K. Pretty well.
Still better than Polish average :(

[CeresRoyal]

The attendance in the Danish League went up about 30-33% last season, but its still to early to say anything about 2003/2004.

Average home attendance all season 2002/2003 :

1. FC København ( Parken 42075 all seats) Average home attendance: 22016
2. Brøndby (Brøndby Stadion 31500 , 20000 seats).......................... : 14734
10.AGF (Aarhus Stadion 20220 all seats).......................................... : 10467
6. AAB (Aalborg Stadion 16000, 7800 seats)...................................... : 7842
4. OB (Odense Stadion 15633, 14233 seats)...................................... : 6865
5. Esbjerg ( Esbjerg Idrætspark 16500, 1630 seats)........................... : 5006
8. Viborg (Viborg Stadion 9796 all seats) ...........................................: 4123
3. FC Nordsjælland ( Farum Park 10000 all seats).............................. : 3356
9. AB (Gladsaxe stadion 13800, 8000 seats)...................................... : 3074
7. FC Midtjylland (Ikast Stadion 12000, 1002 seats)........................... : 2992

-. Herfølge (Herfølge Stadion 8000, 3440 seats) : ( 1244 )
-. Frem (Valby Idrætspark 12000, 4400 seats) : ( 1800 )

[CeresRoyal]

News:
Stig Tøfting will play for AGF against the Danish National Team in the match tomorrow wednesday 3/9-2003 at Aarhus Stadion... however the Polish U/21 player Tomek Mazurkiewicz and the two Danish U/21 players Leon Andreasen and Steffen Rasmussen are preoccupied with the U/21 National Teams and wont be playing for AGF.

Transfer news :
FC Nordsjælland have signed Denni Conteh (DEN),28yo ,Sparta Rotterdam ....and Yoshikatsu Kawaguchi (Japan 55 caps) ,Porthsmouth.

[Ross420]

Can someone post a list of the managers of the Danish teams, I heard Michael Laudrup & John Jensen were a team at 1 club...

Also who are the star players in the League to watch out for?

[pyrtas]

Actually - how is Mazurkiewicz doing? I remember that when he went to Denmark he scored a couple of goals straight away but now there is no news on him in Poish papers.

[CeresRoyal]

Managers.

Maybe Manager is too strong a word ...but yes....Michael Laudrup is the "manager"/ head coach in the "coach-duo" Laudrup/John Jensen in Brøndby...The only foregin Manager/coach in the Danish leage is Hans Backe (SWE) FC København, former "stand in" Swedish National Coach 1990, at the moment he is allso the only coach with any experience from a League outside Scandinavia (2000-2001 Austria Wien).

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Tomek Mazurkiewicz ? + Star Players ?

Who are the Star players in the Danish League ??..well...Beckham and Zidane ofcause !...oops...I ment Tommy Bechmann and Mohamed Zidan...

The future super stars ?....well...I have no doubts !

Defender/ Midtfielder :

Leon Andreasen,21 yo (DEN-U/21,AGF, 6 caps, 1 goal) 8 goals in 32 matches for AGF last season. AGF's best player last year! ..now the club captain!...

Midtfielders :

Jan Kristiansen,22 yo (DEN 1 cap) 18 goals in 33 matches last season for Esbjerg. 2 goals in his first 5 matches this season. Wont be playing in the Danish League for longe I guess!...

Forwards:

Tommy Bechmann (DEN-U/21, 12 caps, 9 goals) 13 goals in 33 matches last season for Esbjerg... 6 goals in 6 matches so far this season.

Morten "Duncan" Rasmussen 18yo (DEN-U/19, 8 caps, 2 goals + lots and lots of goals for DEN-U/17) 5 goals last season for AGF. 1 goal in the 6 matches this season. Nicknamed due to his similarities with Everton hitman Duncan Ferguson.

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/Under17/f.../Report=RP.html (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/Under17/fixturesresults/round=1500/match=69222/Report=RP.html)

Mohamed Zidan (Egypt-U/21, and the Olympic-team star player) 11 goals in 29 matches last season for AB... 3 goals in 6 matches so far this season for FC Midtjylland.
Mohamed Zidan got the award of best technical Player of the 2002/2003 Season in Denmark. No doubt this player possesses the best "Technique" in the Danish League last season...and he has shown some world class Technique and dribbling skills in the first 6 matches this season too.

The Egypt Mohamed Zidan-page :
http://www.egyptianplayers.com/Zidan/Moham...dZidan-page.htm (http://www.egyptianplayers.com/Zidan/MohamedZidan-page.htm)

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If I should point out some other young Star-players in the League :

Goalkeepers :

Stephan Andersen (DEN-U/21 player, 17.caps) 30 matches in the Danish League last season for AB.

Steffen Rasmussen (DEN-U/21, 2 caps) 17 matches for AGF last season.


Defenders :

Shane Cansdell-Sheriff (AUS-U/21 ? caps) only played this season (6 matches) but surely a great player. Was a big talent in Leeds but wanted assurance on 1st team football this season, he got no promise in Leeds so he joint AGF.


Midtfielders:

Thomas Kahlenberg, 20yo (DEN-U/21,8 caps, 2 goals) 4 goals in 32 matches for Brøndby last season.

Jonas Kamper (DEN-U/21, 12 caps) 1 goal in 19 matches for Brøndby last season.

Michael Silberbauer,22yo (DEN 1 cap) 5 goals in 28 matches for AAB last season.

Rasmus Würtz (DEN-U/21, 11 caps) 32 matches for AAB last season

Tomek Mazurkiewicz (POL-U/21 Captain, ? caps ) 3 goals in 27 matches for AGF. Wanted by some German clubs. However he was injured and out allmost ½ a season. now he's fit for fight and have played for AGF in the first few matches this season.


Forwards :

Denni Patschinsky 20yo (GER-U/20, ? caps) 2 matches for Viborg so far. wanted by some German clubs.
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AGF News :

Former Danish international Brian Steen Nielsen has been convicted of violence by a court in Aarhus and fined £400 after admitting head-butting a team-mate.Despite the fact that the AGF Århus team-mate in question, Nikolai Hust... who has now left the club... declined to press charges following the incident at the club's training ground on 22 July this year, Aarhus police decided to investigate the matter, after which the charges were brought.Nielsen had said before the trial that he would retire from football had he been sent to jail, but declined to comment after the verdict was announced. The midfield player, who won 66 caps for Denmark before retiring after the 2002 FIFA World Cup finals, had already been fined £800 by AGF and stripped of the club captaincy.




AGF - Denmark 0-2
0-1:Ebbe Sand
0-2:Ebbe Sand
Attendance 20398

Well...Hard to say if you should laugh or cry....even thou it was a well played "friendly" I would cry if I was Morten Olsen... thou Denmark won the 1st half 2-0...AGF played a great 2nd half and had their chances in the match...
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Nordsjælland news:

Danish Superligaen club FC Nordsjælland have signed Japanese international goalkeeper Yoshikatsu Kawaguchi (Portsmouth FC) on a two-year contract. The 28 yo Kawaguchi has made 55 appearances for Japan and was captain of his country before losing the No1 shirt ahead of the 2002 FIFA World Cup.Nordsjælland owner Allan K Pedersen stressed that the signing of Kawaguchi did not mean a lack of confidence in the experienced Jan Hoffmann, who only arrived at the club in July. "We just took the chance, as we got this fantastic opportunity to get Yoshikatsu Kawaguchi, and all the time we have been planning to reinforce our team before the remaining games of the autumn season, which will hopefully include four more UEFA Cup matches." Nordsjælland also signed the 28 yo Danish striker Denni Conteh from Sparta Rotterdam

[Big Pete]

For other stars just check the FCK squad ;) Zuma is probably the biggest star in the league. It is funny that AGF has so many stars, but still are fighting to avoid relegation each year ;)

[coobek]

Originally posted by Big Pete@Sep 4 2003, 09:08 AM
For other stars just check the FCK squad ;) Zuma is probably the biggest star in the league. It is funny that AGF has so many stars, but still are fighting to avoid relegation each year ;)
Maybe it has something to do with Ceres being AGF fan??? ;)

[pyrtas]

Originally posted by coobek+Sep 4 2003, 09:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (coobek @ Sep 4 2003, 09:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Big Pete@Sep 4 2003, 09:08 AM
For other stars just check the FCK squad ;) Zuma is probably the biggest star in the league. It is funny that AGF has so many stars, but still are fighting to avoid relegation each year ;)
Maybe it has something to do with Ceres being AGF fan??? ;) [/b][/quote]
:o do you think they play bad because Ceres is their fan? ;)

[coobek]

Originally posted by pyrtas+Sep 4 2003, 10:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pyrtas @ Sep 4 2003, 10:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-coobek+Sep 4 2003, 09:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (coobek @ Sep 4 2003, 09:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Big Pete@Sep 4 2003, 09:08 AM
For other stars just check the FCK squad ;) Zuma is probably the biggest star in the league. It is funny that AGF has so many stars, but still are fighting to avoid relegation each year ;)
Maybe it has something to do with Ceres being AGF fan??? ;) [/b][/quote]
:o do you think they play bad because Ceres is their fan? ;) [/b][/quote]
:ph34r: !!!!!

[CeresRoyal]

Well...the reson Zuma is not in my list is because of his age... (I did write young star players !).... Im sure no one will dispute that Leon Andreasen is a star player ??!... however If you look at the AGF team the real good players are very young and there are some crappy players too like the new swedish defender.....AGF have other problems this season as well.... Like the head-butting Brian Steen Nielsen + 3 red cards in 6 matches...That is not the way to win....even thou they only played one crappy match...(FCK-AGF)...

The 3 star players in the FCK-AGF match was Thomas Røll 26 yo, Zuma 28 yo and Erik Mykland 32 yo.... stars... yes...but they hardly qualify in a "young stars" list...Im sure the biggest FCK star this season will be the new forward Alvaro Santos, 23 yo....however he has only played the 25 min against Rangers... and one half against AGF as well... even thou the Rangers match was his first in 4 month and he did score the 1-1 goal...

[Big Pete]

I guess I just thought Ross420 asked about all star players in the league, since I don't think his knowledge of the league is good enough to know the established stars as well. I would label Martin Albrechtsen a young star. Calling Steffen Rasmussen a young-star is still a bit of a stretch in my book, very talented player is probably more fitting. Actually I would label Ramus Würtz, Denni Patschinsky, Shane Cansdell-Sheriff and Morten "Duncan" Rasmussen talents as well, as they yet have to prove themselves capable of keeping a certain level of play over more than half a season. Don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of Morten "Duncan" Rasmussen, but he still has to score a bit more or make more assist in the close games for me to call him a star, he might just be a prodigy in the making. :)
About AGF I really think they might benefit from getting rid of Poul Hansen, because he is not able to deliver to goods consistenly. He actually never has been looking at his previous results even though I admit AGF are fun to watch at times and he always cracks me up with his comments. It's just an observation I don't have any possible replacements and with FCK coach also having his faults I probably shouldn't be making such a comment, but I'm just wondering what your position was on that matter CeresRoyal. Umm de blå!! ;)

[CeresRoyal]

I agree on Martin Albrechtsen, 23 yo ...and Alvaro Santos 23 yo too...the reson they were not in the list is that I only went for players age 18 yo - 22 yo.....Maybe I was a little harsh.....Ramus Würtz, Denni Patschinsky, Shane Cansdell-Sheriff and Steffen Rasmussen are future stars I think and they were not in my "future stars" top 5. ...

Your wellcome to make a Danish League allstar team thou ....if you like.... However I would still choose Leon Andreasen (AGF) as one of the defenders, Jan Kristiansen (Esbjerg) in midtfield, Mohamed Zidan (Midtjylland) and Tommy Bechmann (Esbjerg) as forwards.....using Zuma in midtfield (since he is a natural midtfielder...and do play in midtfield for South Africa).

Did you know Zuma was in the soccerage.com's editorial on the 10 Rising World Cup-Stars 2002 ?
http://www.soccerage.com/en/13/e6010.html

About the AGF coach...well...I dont think it would be a good idea to get yet another coach....I think one of AGF's big problems are the "getting a new coach each year" ....( I dont even remember how many....I think it's 11 the past 12 years or so ?)..They should give him a fair chance... with all the new players and young talents in mind...If you remember we did actually play som great football last season...winning or at least getting points from all the top teams in the League...however loosing to all the crappy teams...but it wasnt really a surprise ...with a whole new team of young talents and some new "older" players too...and a new coach...

[CeresRoyal]

My Danish League all-stars :

Goalkeeper :

Karim Zaza, 28 yo (DEN/Morocco) Brøndby

Defenders :

Leon Andreasen,21 yo,AGF, Per Nielsen,30 yo, Brøndby,
Bo Svensson,24 yo, FC København, Andreas Jakobsson,31 yo (SWE)Brøndby.

Midtfielders :

Jan Kristiansen,22 yo,Esbjerg, Morten Wieghorst,32 yo, Brøndby
Thomas Røll,26 yo, FC København

Midtfield/forward :

Sibusiso Zuma, 28 yo (South Africa) FC København

Forwards :

Mohamed Zidan,21 yo (Egypt) Midtjylland, Tommy Bechmann,21 yo , Esbjerg



Reserves :
GK: Arkadiusz Onyszko,29 yo (POL)Viborg
DF: Martin Albrechtsen,23 yo, + Ole Tobiasen,28 yo, FC København
MF: Erik Mykland,32yo,(NOR)FC København, Jeffrey Aubynn,26yo (SWE)AGF.
FW: Alvaro Santos,23 yo (Brazil), FC København

Alvaro Santos and Jeffrey Aubynn are in the team as reserves all thou they have only played a few matches...however Im sure Santos will be the star forward and Aubynn (with his fantastic technique and dribbling skills) the potential star Left-midtfielder in the Danish League this season.

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Jeffrey Aubynn AGF (signed from Örgryte):
http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/K...wsId=85705.html (http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/Kind=2/newsId=85705.html)
http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/K...wsId=19740.html (http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/Kind=2/newsId=19740.html)

And If your interested in Swedish Football:
http://www.globalsoccertransfers.com/colum...umn/sweden.html (http://www.globalsoccertransfers.com/column/sweden.html)

An English/Norwegian fan Page ? :
http://www.engelskanorr.com/5+6grades/5thS...5A/TerryM/1.htm (http://www.engelskanorr.com/5+6grades/5thSpring03/Homepage5A/TerryM/1.htm)
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[pyrtas]

Onyszko?!! He `s been forgoten in Poland. Is he really doing well in denmark?

[Big Pete]

I can pretty much agree with your team and I can see you stocked up on central defenders in lack of class wing-backs in the Danish league. On the Poul Hansen issue my instict tells me that the fact that GF played good against the good teams and lost the easy matches is more a Poul Hansen trademark than due to the many new players, just look at his time in Lyngby. But we'll just have to wait and see.

[CeresRoyal]

Yes Arkadiusz Onyszko has been ..if not the best..at least allways in the top 3 goalkeepers in the Danish League for years now...

well....the only great wing-back I can think of is Shane Cansdell-Sheriff ...he..he... I didnt see Jesper Grønkjær getting anywhere against him in the AGF-Denmark match ??.....

If I should point out another star player....at least last season....it would be Mattias Jonson, 29yo (SWE) Brøndby....That brings me to my next (Danish League) Info :

Euro 2004 (qualifiers) Group 4

Sweden 5 - 0 San Marino

The two Brøndby players Mattias Jonson and Andreas Jakobsson scored the two first goals for Sweden when they beat San Marino 5-0 in the Euro-04 group 4. ... Mattias Jonson allso scored a hat-trick when Sweden won the San Marino - Sweden (0-6) match in July.

[CeresRoyal]

I've had a little Internet-crash a few days but I'm back now...

Superliga results
13/09-2003 :

FC København - FC Midtjylland 0-1
0-1: Thomas Frandsen (61.)
Attendance : 14665

14/09-2003 :

AGF - Herfølge 2-1
1-0: Peter Graulund (28.)
2-0: Josta Dladla (54.)
2-1: Anders Jørgensen (70.)
Attendance : 10579

OB Odense - Esbjerg 2-0
1-0: Nicolai Stockholm (18.)
2-0: Mwape Miti (66.)
Attendance : 9650

AB København - Brøndby IF 0-3
0-1: Thomas Kahlenberg (24.)
0-2: Ruben Bagger (55.)
0-3: Karsten Johansen (70.)
Attendance : 6345

AaB Ålborg - FC Nordsjælland 1-0
1-0: Michael Silberbauer (45.)
Attendance : 5352

Frem - Viborg 2-3
1-0: Søren Larsen (11.)
1-1: Søren Frederiksen (19.)
1-2: Imants Bleidelis (27.)
1-3: Klaus Kærgård (33.)
2-3: Kim Kristensen (53.)
Attendance : 2614


Danish Superleague 2003-2004 standings (7 games)

1.Brøndby............... 7..5 1 1..12 - 3.. 16
2.Esbjerg................ 7..4 2 1..13 - 2..14
3.OB Odense.......... 7..4 1 2..13 - 8..13
4.FC København..... 7..4 1 2..12 - 7..13
5.FC Midtjylland...... 7..4 1 2..11 - 9..13
6.Viborg.................. 7..2 3 2..11 -12... 9
7.Frem.................... 7..3 0 4.. 8 -10....9
8.AaB Ålborg ..........7..2 1 4.. 5 - 8.... 7
9.AGF Aarhus...........7..2 1 4.. 9 -15... 7
10.AB København.... 7..2 1 4.. 7 -14... 7
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11.Herfølge...............7..2 0 5.. 5 - 9.... 6
12.FC Nordsjælland.. 7..1 2 4.. 7 -10... 5



Goals Top 10 (7 games):

1 Steffen Højer,OB 7
2 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 6
3 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 4
4 Todi Jónsson,FC København 3
4 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 3
4 Sibusiso Zuma,FC København 3
4 Peter Graulund,AGF 3
8 Thomas Andreasen,FC Nordsjælland 2
8 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 2
8 Jonas Kamper,Brøndby 2
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Red cards (7 games) :

1 Leon Andreasen,AGF 1
1 Morten Petersen,AGF 1
1 Nicklas Carlsson,AGF 1
1 Nikolai Stokholm,OB 1
1 Fernando Derveld,OB 1
1 Rasmus Marvits,FC Nordsjælland 1
1 Jesper Mikkelsen,FC Midtjylland 1
1 Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby 1
1 Jacob Thomsen,Herfølge 1
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[pyrtas]

Not a good start for FCK, is it? Looks like Brondby goes for the championship. And who is Esbjerg?!!!

[CeresRoyal]

Personally I'm not surprised to see Esbjerg at the top of the League..They got a good team...and some big stars...As you'll see in my Danish League all-stars ...however they'll probably sell their two young DEN-U21 Super-Stars Jan Kristiansen and Tommy Bechmann....OB Odense got a strong looking team too with the League top scorer (7 goals in 7 matches) Steffen Højer, 30yo (former AC Brescia player)... and some good foreign players like the Dutch defender ( former PSV & Norwich player) Fernando Derveld, 27yo , midtfielder Andrew Tembo 27yo (Zambia, former Olympique de Marseille) + the forward Mwape Miti 30yo (Zambia)

As for FCK and Brøndby... they are still the two best teams in the league...all thou the are not like "Rangers & Celtic" I see the usual signs ..FCK beating Brøndby but loosing to some less talented teams.

The results in the Danish League are allways hard to Predict....Like the AGF team last season...beating the crap out of most of the top teams playing some great football...then loosing to the "crappy" teams ending at the 10 spot in the League !??!...


My Danish League Prediction this season :

1.Brøndby (1-3)
2.FC København (1-3)
3.Esbjerg (2-4)
4.OB Odense (3-5)
5.FC Midtjylland (4-6)
6.AGF Aarhus (5-7)
7.AaB Ålborg (6-8)
8.FC Nordsjælland (7-9)
9.Viborg (8-10)
10.Frem (9-11)
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11.AB København (10-12)
12.Herfølge (10-12)

[CeresRoyal]

A little mistake in the Goals Top 10....sorry

Goals Top 10 (7 games):

1 Steffen Højer,OB 7
2 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 6
3 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 4
4 Peter Graulund,AGF 3
4 Todi Jónsson,FC København 3
4 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 3
4 Søren Larsen,Frem 3
4 Mwape Miti,OB 3
4 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 3
4 Sibusiso Zuma,FC København 3

[CeresRoyal]

Danish Superliga results :

17.September-2003

Viborg - FC København 2-2
1-0: Søren Frederiksen (2.)
1-1: Thomas Røll (60.)
2-1: Christian Magleby (64.)
2-2: Peter Nielsen (90.)
Attendance : 5705

Brøndby - AaB Ålborg 1-1
0-1: Stefan Schmidt (50.)
1-1: Niki Zimling (64.)
Attendance : 11981

AGF - AB København 2-0
1-0: Thomas Thorninger (26.)
2-0: Thomas Thorninger (41.)
Attendance : 7215


Esbjerg - Frem 2-0
1-0: Jess Thorup (18.)
2-0: Jacob Poulsen (73.)
Attendance : 5049

FC Midtjylland - FC Nordsjælland 1-1
1-0: Mohamed Zidan (13.)
1-1: Rasmus Marvits (39.)
Attendance : 2359

Herfølge - OB Odense 2-2
1-0: Chris Hermansen (5.)
1-1: Michael Hemmingsen (11.)
2-1: Morten Avnskjold (62.)
2-2: Jacob Gregersen (67.)
Attendance : 1644
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Goals Top 10 (8 games):

1 Steffen Højer,OB 7
2 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 6
3 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 5
4 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 4
5 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 3
5 Thomas Røll Larsen,FC København 3
5 Stefan Schmidt,AaB 3
5 Peter Graulund,AGF 3
5 Todi Jónsson,FC København 3
5 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 3
5 Søren Larsen,Frem 3
5 Mwape Miti,OB 3
5 Sibusiso Zuma,FC København 3



Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (8 games)

1.Brøndby............... 8..5 2 1..13 - 4.. 17
2.Esbjerg................ 8..5 2 1..15 - 2...17
3.OB Odense.......... 8..4 2 2..15 -10..14
4.FC København..... 8..4 2 2..14 - 9...14
5.FC Midtjylland...... 8..4 2 2..12 -10...14
6.Viborg.................. 8..2 4 2..13 -14...10
7.AGF Aarhus...........8..3 1 4..11 -15...10
8.Frem.................... 8..3 0 5.. 8 -12.....9
9.AaB Ålborg ...........8..2 2 4.. 6 - 9..... 8
10.Herfølge...............8..2 1 5.. 7 -11.... 7
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11.AB København.... 8..2 1 5.. 7 -16.... 7
12.FC Nordsjælland.. 8..1 3 4.. 8 -11.... 6

[CeresRoyal]

AGF news:
Polish U21 and AGF midtfielder Tomek Mazurkiewicz do not feel he's given a fair chance to show his big talent and wish to leave the club .-"If I shall be honest, I dont think I have a future in the club with Poul Hansen as coach." He says. Mazurkiewicz has played some good matches this season and he played in the match against Herfølge, but only because Mikkel Bo Jensen was sick... and thou Mikkel Bo was not at full strength tuesday he was coach Poul Hansens first choice for the AB København match.-" I like Mikkel Bo...he's a good friend, but I think it's strange he's not fit and goes straight in to the team. I cant understand I'm not given a fair chance to prove my worth" Mazurkiewicz says. Coach Poul Hansen and manager Frank Heskjær understand Mazurkiewicz's difficulties and they dont refuse that he could be put up for loan.-"Last season we had some offers to buy or loan Tomek...I think a loan offer would be a better solution for us " manager Frank Heskjær says.

[pyrtas]

Is he so respected a player that in case of leaving the club he wouldn`t have problems with finding another employer?

[CeresRoyal]

Mazurkiewicz was a respected player when he came to the club and played some impressive matches last season ... It lead to some offers by some big German clubs...however his problem is that he was injured for a looong time ...then AGF got a new Coach who thinks he's a great player...but that he simply dont fit in to the "system" ....and now a transfer is not possible before december I think.

[CeresRoyal]

The Polish goalkeeper Arkadiusz Onyszko who was the saviour in the Viborg - AGF match ( 24/08-03) with some impressive saves giving Viborg a 1-0 win, played yet another good match for Viborg against FC København (2-2) . Viborg who allways rely on their solid defence and a few fast counterattacks !..however the last 30 minutes in the first half of the match against FCK looked more like a icehockey match with FCK power-play and 10 corners! ..

[CeresRoyal]

If you would like to have a look at the Danish Superliga (SAS-Liga) squads then I got this German !?! site.... well...it's German but they know their facts!...

http://www.eufo.de/football/den/2003/

[CeresRoyal]

Superliga results
20/09-2003 :

FC København - Herfølge 0-0
Attendance : 12579

OB Odense - Brøndby 0-1
0-1: Thomas Kahlenberg (15.)
Attendance : 13686

FC Nordsjælland - Esbjerg 1-1
0-1: Jacob Poulsen (4.)
1-1: Francis Dickoh (21.)
Attendance : 1576

21/09-2003 :

Frem - AGF 1-4
0-1: Peter Graulund (16.)
1-1: Samir Haida (22.)
1-2: Morten "Duncan" Rasmussen (37.)
1-3: Mikkel Bo Jensen (52.)
1-4: Morten "Duncan" Rasmussen (77.)
Attendance : 2395

AaB Ålborg - FC Midtjylland 1-0
1-0: Allan Gaarde (29.)
Attendance : 6204

AB København - Viborg 1-4
0-1: Klaus Kærgård (19.)
1-1: Peter Benjaminsen (57.)
1-2: Søren Frederiksen (62.)
1-3: Klaus Kærgård (73.)
1-4: Søren Frederiksen (90.)
Attendance : 1133

Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (9 games)

1.Brøndby............... 9..6 2 1..14 - 4.. 20
2.Esbjerg................ 9..5 3 1..16 - 3...18
3.FC København...... 9..4 3 2..14 - 9...15
4.OB Odense........... 9..4 2 3..15 -11..14
5.FC Midtjylland....... 9..4 2 3..12 -11..14
6.Viborg.................. 9..3 4 2..17 -15..13
7.AGF Aarhus...........9..4 1 4..15 -16...13
8.AaB Ålborg ...........9..3 2 4.. 7 - 9....11
9.Frem.................... 9..3 0 6.. 9 -16....9
10.Herfølge..............9..2 2 5.. 7 -11.... 8
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11.FC Nordsjælland.. 9..1 4 4.. 9 -12.... 7
12.AB København.... 9..2 1 6.. 8 -20.... 7


Goalscorers Top 10 (9 games):

1 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 7
1 Steffen Højer,OB 7
3 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 6
4 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 5
5 Morten "Duncan" Rasmussen,AGF 4
5 Peter Graulund,AGF 4
5 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 4
8 Jakob Poulsen,Esbjerg 3
8 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 3
8 Thomas Røll Larsen,FC København 3
8 Stefan Schmidt,AaB 3
8 Todi Jónsson,FC København 3
8 Søren Larsen,Frem 3
8 Mwape Miti,OB 3
8 Sibusiso Zuma,FC København 3

It's not going well for FC København playing the s***tyest match for years....however Brøndby seems very strong ...and the young DEN-U19 star and AGF forward Morten "Duncan" Rasmussen, 18yo, scored two goals and are now among the top 5 goalscorers in the League this season...

[pyrtas]

How big are these places: Nordsjælland and Esbjerg. Only some above 1000 spectators? Why is that? And AB Kopenhaven - don`t they have any fans?

[CeresRoyal]

Over the past ten years FC København has "stolen" the fans from other clubs in/around Copenhagen like AB and Frem...and so has Brøndby !.

The "merge club" FC Midtjylland are still working on a new Football stadium closer to the fans in Herning !. The average attendance in Esbjerg last season (when they finished on the 5th spot in the League) was 5006.
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Some other Club facts :


Jylland :

AGF (Aarhus : 300000 People)
Aarhus Gymnastics Club of 1880.

AaB (Ålborg : 162000 People)
Aalborg Boldspilklub of 1885.

Esbjerg (Esbjerg :83000 People)
Esbjerg Forenede Boldklubber of 1924.

FC Midtjylland (Ikast & Herning : 23000 and 59000 People)
Fodbold Club Midtjylland of 1999.
merger of Ikast & Herning Fremad in 1999 (see Ikast Stadion)

Viborg : (Viborg : 43000 people)
Viborg Fodsports Forening of 1896.

Fyen :

OB (Odense : 184000 People)
Odense Boldklub of 1887.

Sjælland :

Clubs:

FC København (København : 500000 people)
Football Club København of 1992, a merge of: KB of 1876 and B1903.

Frem (Valby a part of København : 46000 people)
Boldklubben Frem of 1886.

AB København (Gladsaxe : 60000 People)
Akademisk Boldklub of 1889.

Brøndby ( Brøndby : 35000 People)
Brøndbyernes Idrætsforening of 1964.

FC Nordsjælland (Farum : 20000 People)
Football Club Nordsjælland of 2003.

Herfølge ( Herfølge : 2000 People ??)
Herfølge Boldklub of 1921.

[CeresRoyal]

In the middle writing this update...Half of Denmark and Half of Sweden was hit by a power blackout...who brought most of Sjælland (and Copenhagen)...and most of Southern Sweden to a standstill....a storm hit the transmission line separating the two countries...Thou I live in Aarhus , Jylland...I was cut of from the Internet for 2½ hours... Now I'm back so here we go :
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Brøndby news:

Most people praise head coach Michael Laudrup for the Brøndby
success in the Danish League this season, but actually it's assistant coach John "Faxe" Jensen who get the most important brøndby players like Morten Wieghorst (former Celtic player), Martin Retov og Andreas Jakobsson (SWE,former Hansa Rostock player) to the club.

"John knows a lot of people via his career as a player ...and as a coach. It has been an unvaluable help to me. Thou I know a lot of people too....my problem is I have played in clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona, and we wont get any players from them."..Head-Coach Laudrup says and he adds that the Brøndby supporters wont be seeing any talents from the big Spanish clubs playing for brøndby...."both Barcelona and Real Madrid normally only loan their talents to other Spanish clubs in La Liga."

Brøndby got Wieghorst, Jakobsson, Retov and goalkeeper Karim Zaza on free transfers. "Zaza is a real scoop, Wieghorst and Jakobsson are now some of the biggest stars in the Superliga, and we got them for free.. We have been both lucky ...and clever." Laudrup says...

"It's my experience when you ask to buy a player from another club, then Suddenly, there are no limits on how great the clubs think their players are and how much they costs ! ...It's all about timing. we get a lot of offers on buying players every week.. but we have to stay cool...I'm allready planning for the next season" Laudrup says with out getting more specific

John "Faxe" Jensen are still in contact with his former club Arsenal..and he’s been close, getting some Arsenal players to Brøndby.

"we made an offer on Sebastian Svärd..and Jermaine Pennant, who cost more than £2m when he came to Arsenal as a 16yo. but unfortunatly we didnt get them"...Jensen says...Pennant is now on loan to Leeds.
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Well...It's time for the UEFA Cup....how are the the Danish clubs chances ??...Lets see :

Europa Cup 2003/2004:

Champions League:

Q2 : FC København - Sliema Wanderers (MLT) 4-1, 6-0
Q3 : Glasgow Rangers (SCO)- FC København 1-1, 2-1

Uefa Cup :

Qualifying Round :
Brøndby IF - Dinamo Minsk (BLS) 3-0, 2-0
FC Nordsjælland - Shirak Gyumri (ARM) 4-0, 2-0
Esbjerg - Santa Coloma (AND) 5-0 4-1
OB Odense - Tallina VMK (EST) 1-1 3-0

1. Round :
FC København (seeded), Brøndby (seeded), OB Odense , FC Nordsjælland , Esbjerg fB.

FC København - Ferencvaros Budapest (HUN) (50/50)
Brøndby IF - FK Viktoria Zizkov (CZE) (75/25)
Panionios NFC (GRE) - FC Nordsjælland (80/20)
Spartak Moscow (RUS) - Esbjerg (40/60)
OB Odense - FK Crvena Zvezda (Red Star Beograd)(SBM) (45/55)
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FC København at their best, would normally beat the crap out of any Hungarian team!...however Zuma is out with an injury... and FCK are not playing well ...so maybe not??

Brøndby are very strong at the moment....a super solid defence..and playing some great football(thou not scoring that much goals ??).....versus a Viktoria Zizkov at the bottom of the CZE League ?......

Normally I would give FC Nordsjælland an even chance against a team like Panionios, however FCN playes with no confidence at the moment...at the bottom of the Danish League.....

You may think it would be near to impossible for Esbjerg to beat the former Russian champions ??....Well...Esbjerg are as strong as Brøndby....and the UEFA Cup is top priority this season for the club...Spartak Moscow are not doing well in the Russian League...and they just hired their 3rd coach in 3 month !

OB is a good team....but in Europa Cup you never know what they'll do...or if they'll take it serious at all...(they havent so far this season!)....In 1994/95 they beat Real Madrid in the UC - Round 3. by loosing 2-3 at home and then beating Real 2-0 in Madrid !?! (Real's only home loose that season!)...Last season however, they played s***ty, like they couldnt care less in the first 3 matches...(thou close to win 2-0 in the last home match vs. Celta Vigo !?!).. the results :

2002/03 UC
Q1: MyPa-47 (FIN) - OB Odense , 1-0 & 0-2
R1: Celta Vigo (ESP) - OB Odense , 2-0 & 0-1

But then again ...you never know in the UEFA Cup !.....Maybe I'll look stupid in a few days ;-)

[CeresRoyal]

UEFA Cup results

Round 1. :

Ferencvaros Budapest (HUN) - FC København 1-1
0-1: Todi Jonsson (1.)
1-1: Attila Kriston (37.)
Attendance: 8000
FCK playing poorly in the first 45 minutes, besides the 1 minute world class goal from Todi Jonsson....FCK in full controle of the match the last 45 minutes.

Brøndby IF - FK Viktoria Zizkov (CZE) 1-0
1-0: Mattias Jonson (64.)
Attendance: 8939
Brøndby not playing well thou in full controle of the match, however Brøndby allways being a better away team in Europa Cup matches, they got a very good chance of getting to Round 2.

Panionios NFC (GRE) - FC Nordsjælland 2-1
1-0: Miko Smiljanic (30.)
2-0: Adam Majewski (33.)
2-1: Baskim Ziberi (76.)
Attendance: 2500
It seems I was wrong about FC Nordsjælland who nearly got a 2-2 result Putting pressure on Panionios at the end of the match.

Spartak Moscow (RUS) - Esbjerg 2-0
1-0: Alexander Pavlenko (14.)
2-0: Maxim Kalinicenko (33.)
Attendance: 6500
The very young Esbjerg team playing well 45 minutes of this match, however showing their lack of experience giving away two free goals.

OB Odense - FK Crvena Zvezda (Red Star Beograd)(SBM) 2-2
1-0: Mwape Miti (16.)
1-1: Nicola Zigic (21.)
1-2: Nicola Zigic (64.)
2-2: Martin Borre (91.)
Attendance: 13500
OB Odense played a good match, thou Red Star having all the luck scoring on their only two chances in the match...If (and I say If...having their extreemly poor defencive play in mind!) if Red Star beat OB in Beograd, I'm sure they wont have much chance of getting further than Round 2. in the UEFA Cup...

[CeresRoyal]

Danish Cup results:

Round 4:
Viborg - AGF 1-0.
B 1913(1.Div) - B 93(1.Div) 0-1.
Helsingør(DS.1) - Jetsmark(2.Div) 2-0.
Nykøbing FA(1.Div) - FC Nordjylland(1.Div) 4-0.
Skive(2.Div) - Holstebro(1.Div) 3-2.
Randers FC(1.Div) - Ølstykke(1.Div) 3-4.
FC Midtjylland - Frem 0-1.
Silkeborg(1.Div) - Herfølge 4-2.
Køge(1.Div) - AB 1-1, (4-5 penalty shootout)

[CeresRoyal]

Danish Cup Round 4. news :

Viborg - AGF 1-0
1-0: Ralf Pedersen
Attendance : 3.227

Ralf Pedersen scored his first goal in 4 years when Viborg got a lucky win in the League Cup's Round 4. Most of the match Viborg only relying on defence and in big trouble against a good playing AGF team....only the post (twice) and an exelent playing goalkeeper Arek Onyszko prevented AGF from scoring....

Viborg Head coach Ove Christensen dont understand why Onyszko is not a part of the Polish national team...-"I simply cant understand why they wont use him?"...AGF head coach Poul Hansen, on the other hand, had other things on his mind...-"I would like to have Viborgs lotto-coupon this evening, with this kind of luck you simply cant lose!....It was one-way traffic in most of the 2nd half of this match and I still cant understand how they kept us from scoring" he said.

[pyrtas]

So only the "big firms" stand a real chance of getting through this round of the uefa cup. Ferencvaros isn`t that good as they used to be and Brendby should manage too though it won`t be easy.
The rest - small chances

[CeresRoyal]

Well...I didnt see the Panionios NFC (GRE) - FC Nordsjælland 2-1 match, but according to the FC Nordsjælland coach, he was rather pleased with the result and think they got a big chance getting to Round 2.

Even thou Esbjerg did lose, showing their lack of experience they still got a chance ...actually they have beat Spartak Moscow once before at home in a UCL Round 2. match (in 1980/81) the result:
Spartak Moscow (RUS) - Esbjerg, 3-0 & 0-2

Ferencvaros didnt look like they could do any real harm to a FCK team who didnt even play very good.(besides the FCK goal....a fantastic shot from 30 meters out)

As for Brøndby and OB Odense they allmost allways play much better in the away matches (strangely enough??) ...Zizkov only had one real shot at the Brøndby goal the entire match.....and they cant win by playing defencive at home....I'm sure both brøndby and OB will score at least one goal each in the away matches...

some e.g.'s that OB & Brøndby play better in away-matches :
OB Odense
2003/04 UC
Q1: OB Odense - Tallina VMK (EST) 1-1 & 3-0
1996/97 UC
R1:OB Odense - Boavista Porto (POR), 2-3 & 2-1
1994/95 UC
R2: 1.FC Kaiserslautern (GER) - OB Odense, 1-1 & 0-0
R3: OB Odense - Real Madrid (ESP), 2-3 & 2-0
1993/94 CWC
R1: OB Odense - Arsenal London (ENG), 1-2 & 1-1

Brøndby
2001/02 UC
R3: AC Parma (ITA) - Brøndby, 1-1 & 3-0
2000/01 UCL
Q3: Brøndby - SV Hamburg (GER), 0-2 & 0-0
UC R1: Brøndby - NK Osijek (CRO), 1-2 & 0-0
1999/00 UCL
Q3: Brøndby - Boavista Porto (POR), 1-2 & 2-1
1998/99 UCL
Q2: 1.FC Kosice (SVK) - Brøndby, 0-2 & 1-0
1997/98 UCL
Q2: Brøndby - Dinamo Kiev (UKR), 2-4 & 1-0
1996/97 UC
R1: Brøndby - FC Aarau (SUI), 5-0 & 2-0
R2: Aberdeen FC (SCO) - Brøndby, 0-2 & 0-0
R3: Brøndby - SC Karlsruhe (GER), 1-3 & 5-0
QF: CD Tenerife (ESP) - Brøndby, 0-1 & 1-0
1995/96 UC
R2: Brøndby - Liverpool FC (ENG), 0-0 & 1-0
and so on....

[pyrtas]

No chance in beating Spartak. They used to be involved in the CL games almost every year and result from over 20 years ago doesn`t prove anything.

[CeresRoyal]

Yes... your right...but actually Spartak was a much better team 20 years ago..and Esbjerg was a pure amateur team 20 year ago when they won 2-0...(there where no professional football in Denmark before 1986)...at the moment Spartak are at the bottom (11th place I think) of the Russian league with only 5 matches left to play...and they have no chance of playing Europa Cup next year.... allso they have lost alot of their best players lately and hired 3 new Head coaches in the last 3 month....that sounds like a small crisis to me ??...

[CeresRoyal]

Superliga results
28/09-2003 :

AaB Ålborg - AGF 2-1
1-0: Christian Lundberg (47.)
2-0: Christian Lundberg (57.)
Morten"Duncan"Rasmussen,AGF misses pen (68.)
2-1: Leon Andreasen (pen) (71.)
Attendance : 9,892

FC København - Frem 2-0
1-0: Thomas Røll (pen) (26.)
2-0: Jörgen Pettersson(80.)
Attendance : 17,692

Esbjerg - Herfølge 2-0
1-0: Hans Henrik Andreasen(22.)
2-0: Hans Henrik Andreasen (89.)
Attendance : 5,295

OB Odense - AB København 2-1
1-0: Thomas Lindrup(29.)
1-1: Michael Johansen (pen) (38.)
2-1: Søren Berg (48.)
Attendance : 6,544

FC Nordsjælland - Viborg 2-1
1-0: Thomas Andreasen(28.)
2-0: Anders Alding (72.)
2-1: Asbjørn Sennels(93.)
Attendance : 1,664

Brøndby - FC Midtjylland 1-3
0-1: Mohamed Zidan (38.)
0-2: Jesper Mikkelsen (76.)
0-3: Mohamed Zidan (79.)
1-3: Mattias Jonson (85.)
Attendance : 11,314

A surprise win to FC Midtjylland beating Brøndby 3-1.
Brøndby showing some first class football in the first 35 minutes of the match, however being out-smarted by the FCM tactics in the last 50 minutes.. and by an outstanding man-of-the-match...Zidan.. showing his world class technique and dribbling skills..and scoring two goals.
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Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (10 games)

1.Esbjerg................ 10..6 3 1..18- 9....21
2.Brøndby............... 10..6 2 2..15- 7... 20
3.FC København...... 10..5 3 2..16- 9....18
4.OB Odense........... 10..5 2 3..17-12...17
5.FC Midtjylland....... 10..5 2 3..15-12...17
6.AaB Ålborg ...........10..4 2 4.. 9-10.... 14
7.Viborg.................. 10..3 4 3..18-17....13
8.AGF Aarhus...........10..4 1 5..16-18. ..13
9.FC Nordsjælland.... 10..2 4 4..11-13...10
10.Frem................... 10..3 0 7.. 9-18......9
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11.Herfølge...............10..2 2 6.. 7-13.... 8
12.AB København.... 10..2 1 7.. 9-22.... 7


Goalscorers Top 8 (10 games):

1 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 7
1 Steffen Højer,OB 7
3 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 6
3 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 6
5 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 5
6 Thomas Røll Larsen,FC København 4
6 Morten "Duncan" Rasmussen,AGF 4
6 Peter Graulund,AGF 4

[CeresRoyal]

TIPS-bladet(*ESM): Superliga Allstar Team of the month (September) :

Goalkeeper: Martin S. Jensen,OB Odense

Defenders :
Jacob Poulsen,Esbjerg...Per Nielsen,Brøndby....
Jacob Bresemann,Herfølge....Allan K. Jepsen,AaB Ålborg

Midtfielders :
Thomas Thorninger,AGF...Thomas Kahlenberg, Brøndby
Nicolai Stokholm,OB Odense...Allan Gaarde,AaB Ålborg

Forwards:
Søren Frederiksen,Viborg...Peter Graulund,AGF
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Reserves:
GK : Steffen Rasmussen,AGF
Defenders:
Leon Andreasen,AGF..Trond Andersen(NOR),AaB..Fernando Derveld(HOL),OB
MF:Morten Avnskjold,Herfølge
FW:Klaus Kærgård,Viborg

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[pyrtas]

Originally posted by CeresRoyal@Sep 28 2003, 07:19 PM

Brøndby - FC Midtjylland 1-3

:o :o

This is really a surprise. Ejsberg is really that good at the moment or the other teams have some hard time to get through?

FCK - finally a win.

Who is to be the champion?

[CeresRoyal]

Who is to be the champion?

I think if you take a look at the Allstars-of-the-month, it shows what the Superliga is all about !..so many young stars at the moment its hard to pick...I'm sure next month it'll all look different.....this week it was Mohamed Zidan who was the star player (he will surely be in next month Allstar Team )...

Allstar Team of the month (September) statistics :

AGF Aarhus (2+2) 4 Allstar players
OB Odense (2+1) 3
AaB Ålborg (2+1) 3
Brøndby (2+0) 2
Herfølge (1+1) 2
Viborg (1+1) 2
Esbjerg (1+0) 1
FC København (0+0) 0
FC Midtjylland (0+0) 0
FC Nordsjælland (0+0) 0
Frem (0+0) 0
AB København (0+0) 0

So who is to be the champion? ....I still think Brøndby...they normally got a defence as solid as any Italian team, even when they play a s***ty match...
FCK ?? hard to say, but they do have the players and the quality to be Champions ....
With a lot of very young star players Esbjerg lack the experience and they may sell some of their best players, Champions..I think not..
A "dark horse" could be OB Odense...
FC Midtjylland is doing what AGF did last season...beating the crap out of the top teams...losing to the s***ty teams....
My own team AGF is on a raid "looting" the Swedish League for any star player they find (just ask Örgryte)....however you dont get to be a top 3 Team with this many new players...maybe next year...

My Danish League Prediction (15/9-2003) still stands :

1.Brøndby (1-3)
2.FC København (1-3)
3.Esbjerg (2-4)
4.OB Odense (3-5)
5.FC Midtjylland (4-6)
6.AGF Aarhus (5-7)
7.AaB Ålborg (6-8)
8.FC Nordsjælland (7-9)
9.Viborg (8-10)
10.Frem (9-11)
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11.AB København (10-12)
12.Herfølge (10-12)

[CeresRoyal]

Superliga news:

The Swedish club Örgryte is systematicly being drained of all its quality by Danish Superliga clubs. First they lost two of their best players to AGF, midtfielders Jeffrey Aubynn, 25yo (SWE 3 caps) and Martin Ulander,27yo (SWE 5 caps).. and now AaB Ålborg is about to sign the Örgryte Head coach Erik Hamrén.

The problems with Örgryte, denying to discuss a transfer of Martin Ulander to AGF before the transfer deadline, even thou they wont let him play for Örgryte, in anger of him signing a contract with AGF, seems to be solved, so he may move to AGF before the end of his Örgryte contract (in December)...however AGF is on the move ...trying to sign the forward Peter Ijeh, 26 yo (Nigeria 5 caps), Malmö FF..

Ijeh who finished as top-scorer in the Swedish league last season, with 24 goals in 23 games,..is not eager (according to newspapers and mff-fans.com ) to sign a new contract with Malmö FF... unless he gets a pay rise from £30,000 a year to £175,000 a year..wich Malmö FF hardly can afford.

Worldsoccers Ijeh profile :
http://www.countrylife.co.uk/worldsoccer/p...ofile_ijeh.html (http://www.countrylife.co.uk/worldsoccer/profile_ijeh.html)

Ijeh talks about Nigerian football..Olisadebe...and other stuff:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_tal...rum/2480135.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_talk/forum/2480135.stm)

[CeresRoyal]

A little off-topic but congratulation to Rosenborg who just won their 12th Norwegian Championship in a row !?!....

Rosenborg.. 22 61-19... 55
Glimt.......... 22 36-25... 38
Odd............ 21 39-32... 33
Stabæk....... 22 35-30... 33
Viking .........21 40-28 ...31
Sogndal....... 22 36-36... 31
Brann.......... 22 38-40... 28
LSK............. 22 25-33... 28
Molde.......... 22 27-34... 27
TIL.............. 22 28-43... 26
Lyn.............. 22 27-40... 23
VIF ..............22 22-26... 22
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Bryne........... 22 30-43... 22
Aalesund....... 22 24-39...21

[CeresRoyal]

Superliga news:

As expected AaB Ålborg have signed Örgryte head coach Erik Hamrén, 44 yo (SWE) on a 3 year contract.

FC København reported its lowest full-year profit in five years. The 2003 accunts show a £5m profit (not including a £1m loss and a £3m deficit on transfers), reporting a low £1m profit before tax in 2003, however increasing the capital to £50m.

AB København reported a full-year £1½m loss in 2003, reducing the capital to £600,000

AGF reported a expected full-year £500,000 loss in 2003. The reson being a 30% increase of wages expenses...

[pyrtas]

What are the average annual budgets in danish leagues? Biggest and lowest if you know, please.

I just wonder how it is compared to Polish league.

[CeresRoyal]

Well....The FC København full-year budget 2002/03 looks like this :

Income : £23½m ( Wage expenses : £7½m )
Capital : £42m (seems I made a calculation error somewhere !... not £50m ..)
club value : £86m

An average full-year budget in the superliga looks like this :
Income : £3½m ( Wage expenses : £2m )

[coobek]

So your average is our top. Groclin 21 mln PLN = roughly 3.1 mln GBP. Wage bill is calculated the same on the level of 60-70% of whole budget.

[CeresRoyal]

Is Groclin at the top ( in budgets ) ??

However, as you see no Danish club stand much chance against FC København...not even Brøndby (Income : £11m, Wage expenses : £4m )

FCK expect a £5m to £6m profit (not including transfers or Europa Cup profits) in 2004. The FCK club value ( £86m ) include the stadion "Parken" and an estimated Player value ( £7m...a very low estimate ??...they got £6m when they sold Christian Poulsen to Schalke 04 in 2002 )

[pyrtas]

I understand expences but what about the income. How does it look?
Tickets
tv rights
sponsors
other

[CeresRoyal]

Well...as you may see FC København is more like a "Intertainment circus" and less like a football club...

PARKEN Sport & Intertainment A/S ( FC København ) :
TV revenue & gate receipts.......................................... .... £3m
Partners (sponsors,Head sponsor: Carlsberg)................. £6½m
Stadium (Parken)
(Rent and concerts: Paul McCartney, Bruce Springsteen). £3m
Investment buildings......................................... ............... £2m
Conference center and *Other income............................. £9m
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
.................................................. .....................................£23½m

*Other income :
Speedway,Tennis,FCK Handball,Rock Shows
Externe compagnys:
Euro Media (Prime Vision, TV-DK4)
E-Billetter ( E-Tickets )
Supershoppen, X-Line, Sports Cafeen,
UPE-FCK Soccer School Of Excellence (South Africa)
Robow Investment No.93 (Copenhagen House, SAF)


Brøndby:
TV revenue & gate receipts................. £3m
sponsors.......................................... ... £4m
Investment buildings........................... £1m
Other income ??.................................. £3m
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.................................................. ....... £11m

[Big Pete]

That is spelled Entertainment ;) Even though the play lately haven't been quite that. A real football club is one that gets a rich guy to pour a lot of money into the club and spend all of it until they can find another rich guy or what? :cool

[pyrtas]

Originally posted by Big Pete@Oct 3 2003, 08:28 AM
A real football club is one that gets a rich guy to pour a lot of money into the club and spend all of it until they can find another rich guy or what? :cool
This is how the whole system rolls. Look at Wolverhampton, Chelsea.
Even TV can be the rich guy - like Canal + in Poland or ITV in England.

[CeresRoyal]

To Pyrtas....well... Big Pete is talking about the £50m "rich guy" who own AGF (Kurt Andersens).... and the fact that he spend £3m in the past two years..... and is ready to spend yet another £3m next year to make AGF a top club in the Superliga.

[CeresRoyal]

Superliga news:

On the TV show "Fodbold på første klasse" (Football at first-class) on Viasat Sport, Viborg goalkeeper Arek Onyszko (POL) was choosen as "the most valuable foreign player in the Superliga"...5 out of the 12 Superliga head coaches voted for Onyszko....

The Result:
1. Arek Onyszko (POL),Goalkeeper - Viborg
2. Andreas Jakobsson (SWE), Defender - Brøndby
3. Sibusiso Zuma (SAF), Forward - FC København
4. Mohamed Zidan (EGY), Forward - FC Midtjylland
5. Erik Mykland (NOR), Midtfielder - FC København

[pyrtas]

Originally posted by CeresRoyal@Oct 3 2003, 02:45 PM


The Result:
1. Arek Onyszko (POL),Goalkeeper - Viborg

:clap Bravo and congratulation to Onyszko!!!

i wonder how come he`s been so forgotten in Poland.
Has he applied for Danish citizenship yet?

[CeresRoyal]

"Has Onyszko applied for Danish citizenship yet?"...no I dont think so...it would do him no good ( He cant play for Denmark since he got 2 A-caps and 30 U-caps for Poland )

The Dutch defender Fernando Derveld ( OB Odense ) wants to play for Denmark and is thinking of getting a Danish citizenship, however he has played some Dutch U-caps too...so I dont think he has any chance either....

[Big Pete]

As far as I know U-matches doesn't count only senior level national caps, but it takes so long to get a Danish citizenship anyway that they'll both be to old to move around pitch by the time they get it. :Kenzo's Smiley

[CeresRoyal]

Superliga results
04/10-2003 :

AB København - FC København 0-1
0-1: Peter Møller (29.)
Attendance : 5,958

05/10-2003 :

Viborg - AaB Ålborg 2-3
0-1: Christian Lundberg (23.)
1-1: own goal (Michael Silberbauer) (50.)
2-1: Christian Magleby (62.)
2-2: Thomas Augusstinussen (78.)
2-3: Christian Lundberg (89.)
Attendance : 5,349

AGF - OB Odense 0-5
0-1: Mwape Miti (15.)
0-2: Thomas Lindrup (32.)
0-3: Mwape Miti (40.)
0-4: Mwape Miti (78.)
0-5: Steffen Højer (92.)
Attendance : 12,196

Brøndby - Esbjerg 3-0
1-0: Thomas Kahlenberg (44.)
2-0: Thomas Kahlenberg (56.)
3-0: Jonas Kamper (58.)
Attendance : 14,246

Herfølge - FC Nordsjælland 2-1
1-0: Paul Hübertz (25.)
1-1: Thomas Andreasen (42.)
2-1: Chris Hermansen (88.)
Attendance : 2,020

FC Midtjylland - Frem 4-1
0-1: Søren Larsen (17.)
1-1: Michael Hansen (31.)
2-1: Thomas Thomasberg (38.)
3-1: Frank Kristensen (40.)
4-1: Frank Kristensen (83.)
Attendance : 2,532



Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (11 games)

1.Brøndby................ 11..7 2 2..18- 7... 23
2.Esbjerg................. 11..6 3 2..18-12....21
3.FC København....... 11..6 3 2..17- 9.....21
4.OB Odense............ 11..6 2 3..22-12....20
5.FC Midtjylland........ 11..6 2 3..19-13....20
6.AaB Ålborg ............11..5 2 4..12-12... 17
7.Viborg................... 11..3 4 4..20-20....13
8.AGF Aarhus............11..4 1 6..16-23....13
9.Herfølge.................11..3 2 6.. 9-11.....11
10.FC Nordsjælland.. 11..2 4 5..12-15....10
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11.Frem................... 11..3 0 8..10-22......9
12.AB København.... 11..2 1 8.. 9-23...... 7


Goalscorers Top 10 (11 games):

1 Steffen Højer,OB 8
2 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 7
3 Mwape Miti,OB 6
3 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 6
3 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 6
6 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 5
7 Søren Larsen,Frem 4
7 Christian Lundberg,AaB 4
7 Thomas Andreasen,FC Nordsjælland 4
7 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 4
7 Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby 4
7 Thomas Røll Larsen,FC København 4
7 Morten "Duncan" Rasmussen,AGF 4
7 Peter Graulund,AGF 4

[CeresRoyal]

Oops sorry FCK !

Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (11 games)

1.Brøndby................. 11..7 2 2..18- 7... 23
2.FC København........ 11..6 3 2..17- 9....21
3.Esbjerg.................. 11..6 3 2..18-12....21
4.OB Odense............. 11..6 2 3..22-12...20
5.FC Midtjylland......... 11..6 2 3..19-13...20
6.AaB Ålborg .............11..5 2 4..12-12....17
7.Viborg.................... 11..3 4 4..20-20....13
8.AGF Aarhus.............11..4 1 6..16-23. ..13
9.Herfølge..................11..3 2 6.. 9-11....11
10.FC Nordsjælland... 11..2 4 5..12-15...10
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11.Frem.................... 11..3 0 8..10-22......9
12.AB København..... 11..2 1 8.. 9-23...... 7

[CeresRoyal]

AGF news:
The 12,000 AGF fans (Singing "You let us down!") at Aarhus Stadion was very angry at their teams performance when they lost 0-5 to OB Odense...thou AGF played well the first 20 minutes, the team totaly collapsed when OB Odense scored their first goal in the match (at their first chance)...and then their 2nd goal after 32 minutes play....

In the aftermatch interviews, the AGF coach said that this defeat was the hardest of all to take and the worst ever in his career......forward Peter Graulund expressed the players embarresment by their poor preformance, calling it the most embarresing match of his career ...Tomek Mazurkiewicz who was pleased to get a chance to play, however not pleased with the result...-"The four defenders was being made look stupid in this match. But the whole team was to blame for this...we only did well in the first 20 minutes" he said rushing to the airport to join the Polish U21 National Team...AGF manager Frank Heskjær was angry ...this is simply not good enough...I'll have a serious talk with Head coach Poul Hansen...and then with the rest of the team ...

[pyrtas]

disastrous result for AGF . Especially that it was against their table neighbours.
Mazurkiewicz - does he speak any danish
?

[CeresRoyal]

Usually a lot of goals are scored in the matches between AGF and OB , but never a 0-5 home lose ! (last seasons results AGF -OB 3-2 , 4-1 and 2-2 in the away match)....and Yes...Mazurkiewicz do speak some danish...

Viborg news:
Arek Onyszko - "6 years at the same club is a long time, and I think it would be best, if my agent find me another club...I think it would be great if Viborg could make some money by selling me now" he says...Onyszko's contract expires in less than a year and according to Viborg manager Morten Jensen, the club still hopes to get Onyszko to sign a new contract...The Viborg keeper says-"I'll not deny there is a slim chance I'll sign-on for another year...but that will be the end of it..I'll be 30 years-old in January and soon at the top of my career...and I would like to see my self in an English or German team" ...However FC København have shown some interest in the Polish keeper..."I have to say, I have not been in contact with FCK, but a club of that calibre would be very interesting for me...The club is allways at a top-level...so I would be very Interested" Onyszko says.

[pyrtas]

Onyszko - should go for the FCK offer if it appeares. I can`t see him play outside denmark. And there is no interest in him in Poland too - strange.
Maybe Sweden?

[CeresRoyal]

I'm sure he would never go to Sweden.... non of the swedish clubs would be able to afford to pay his wages...and yes...I think he has picked the wrong moment to find a new club....with most of football Europe in debts it's not easy to find a club....and even harder if your a goalkeeper ... Viborg is not a club who attracts any interest from foreign clubs or media...so I'm not surprised he has been forgotten by the Polish media...however if he goes to FCK then I'm sure you will see him play for the Polish national team in the near future...He is that good...

[CeresRoyal]

Just to clarify :
FCK have the Hungarian goalkeeper Balázs Rabóczki (the first choice in the Hungarian national team) and the current second choice in FCK (the third choice in the Swedish national team) Magnus Kihlstedt....however the club are not realy happy with any of them...Arek Onyszko is a much better keeper and would have no difficulties being first choice in FCK if they sign him...

[pyrtas]

Originally posted by CeresRoyal@Oct 7 2003, 11:51 AM

FCK have the Hungarian goalkeeper Balázs Rabóczki (the first choice in the Hungarian national team)
According to my knowledge Kiraly (Hertha Berlin) is the first pick for Hungarian national team.

[CeresRoyal]

Well....I dont know that much about the Hungarian national team ?.... I only know that Balázs Rabóczki was the "first choice" at some point....but he has not played that well for FCK, so I wouldnt be surprised if he's not the "first choice" in the Hungarian national team any more...he was out with an injury last week and didnt play against Frem thou he was back in the team in the AB-FCK match...

[CeresRoyal]

Now I think of it...a lot of foreign Goalkeepers have left/failed in FCK the past few years...Antti Niemi (FIN 19 caps) in 1996.. Then Glasgow Rangers and now in Southampton, Thomas Gill (NOR ?caps) 98/99 ,former MSV Duisburg and now ?, Thomas Myhre (NOR 15 caps) 00/01 , former Rangers, Birmingham, Sunderland and now in Everton, Karim Zaza (DEN/Morocco 1 cap) 00/01 now in OB Odense, Magnus Kihlsted (SWE ?Caps) 01/02 still at the club.

-----------------------------
The Danish Football history lesson

Did you know ??:

The English football legend Sir Bobby Moore played for the Danish club Herning in the late 70's ....

BOBBY MOORE OBE 1941-1993 (ENG 108 caps)
West Ham (1958 - 1974), Fulham (1974 - 1977), Herning (1977 - 78)
The incomparable Pele famously called Sir Bobby Moore "the finest defender in the world". Moore was coolness personified at the heart of the defence and he famously captained England to World Cup glory in 1966. He led his beloved West Ham to FA Cup (1964) and European Cup Winners Cup (1965) success and was named Footballer of the Year in 1964. Moore had everything... calmness under pressure, an almost telepathic ability to read the game, great tackling ability and excellent distribution. A legend who was an ambassador for the game. Sir Bobby Moore died from cancer at the age of 51 in 1993.

[Big Pete]

Don't remind me of Thomas Gill, probably one of the worst buys ever in the history of FCK. Calling Karim Zaza a foreigner is a bit of a stretch even though he was capped ones for Marocco, seeing that he has lived all of his life in Denmark.
To pyrtas Kiraly is indeed the first choice in the Hungarian national team, I think Rabo is down at the third choice. Signing Arek Onyszko would be a great idea in my mind as he has shown consistantly that he is a great goalkeeper with very few weak points and he speaks Danish, which neither Rabo or Kihlstedt do. However I doubt whether Niels Christian Holstrøm, FCK's sports director, will sign the guy because he would then be signalling that the other two which he bought were bad purchases. Other Danish League News is that Frem, just promoted this season, have fired their manager Ole Mørk and former Brøndby manager Ebbe Skovdahl is being toutted as his succesor.

[pyrtas]

Frem - they can attrract some press and employ Ranieri (soon available probably)

[Big Pete]

Frem - they can attrract some press and employ Ranieri (soon available probably)

All they for that is some money :Kenzo's Smiley

[CeresRoyal]

Well you got ahead of me on this news Big Pete ....but here you are :

6 defeats was one to many for the club Frem. Yesterday the head coach Ole Mørk was the first Superliga coach to get sacked this season...and today former Benfica and Aberdeen manager Ebbe Skovdahl, was presented at a press conference, as the new head coach in Frem.

To Pyrtas ... Frem was a little to fast employing a new manager, to get Ranieri , and I seriously doubt they had the money to employ him (Ranieri) anyway...

[Big Pete]

To Pyrtas ... Frem was a little to fast employing a new manager, to get Ranieri , and I seriously doubt they had the money to employ him (Ranieri) anyway...

No, no Frem are loaded with cash after all they are the club of the working class, so they can always borrow from the unions or get some money through their political connections on account of solidarity :P

I must admit I was wondering whether they had been to fast to fire Ole Mørk last night, but when seeing the replacement I think they have done a smart thing. Even though I'm not a great fan of Brøndby Ebbe Skovdahl is not half as bad as many made him out to be. Now he has been in Aberdeen so he is used to working in conditions with little cash and two dominating teams in the league

[CeresRoyal]

I think most people agree Ebbe did a great job in Aberdeen....with no money what so ever !....and if I'm not mistaken he quit the job as manager in Aberdeen...thou they didnt want him to go..

http://www.weallstandtogether.co.uk/news_p..._page.asp?ID=82 (http://www.weallstandtogether.co.uk/news_page.asp?ID=82)

[CeresRoyal]

Well...It's time for the UEFA Cup....how are the the Danish clubs chances ??...Lets see :

Europa Cup 2003/2004:

1. Round :

Ferencvaros Budapest (HUN) - FC København 1-1
Brøndby IF - FK Viktoria Zizkov (CZE) 1-0
Panionios NFC (GRE) - FC Nordsjælland 2-1
Spartak Moscow (RUS) - Esbjerg 2-0
OB Odense - FK Crvena Zvezda (Red Star Beograd)(SBM) 2-2

FC København - Ferencvaros Budapest (HUN) (80/20)
Ferencvaros didnt look like they could do any real harm to a FCK team who didnt even play very good in the away match.

FK Viktoria Zizkov (CZE) - Brøndby IF (40/60)
Zizkov only had one shot at the Brøndby goal the entire match.....and they cant win by playing defencive at home...Brøndby allmost allways play much better in the away matches.

FC Nordsjælland - Panionios NFC (GRE) (60/40)
According to the FC Nordsjælland coach, he was rather pleased with the away match... thou his team was unlucky not scoring 2-3 goals in the 2nd half of the away match...

Esbjerg - Spartak Moscow (RUS) (30/70)
Esbjerg showing their lack of experience in the away match..thou not playing bad and actually being the better team in the first half of the match... still got a slim chance.

FK Crvena Zvezda (Red Star Beograd)(SBM) - OB Odense (70/30)
As Brøndby, OB Odense allmost allways play much better in the away matches...but you never know with this OB team...still a slim chance

[pyrtas]

I really count on FCK and Brondby win. I have put some money on uefa cup games and both of the mentioned included.

According to the news from Ceres I understand that I can concider my "danish" bets won...

[Big Pete]

I agree with CeresRoyal, so pølsemand your bets are as safe as bets can be :Kenzo's Smiley

[coobek]

Originally posted by Big Pete@Oct 15 2003, 10:19 AM
I agree with CeresRoyal, so pølsemand your bets are as safe as bets can be :Kenzo's Smiley
Its not safe until Pred League MASTA :king sais its safe and I ain't sayin no nothing, boys.

[CeresRoyal]

Someone refresh my memory ?...who is the EUROPEAN Prediction League MASTA at the moment ??.... I sure dont know ...

[pyrtas]

So what do you say Mastas? I think I am safe . And will earn for extra polser and ol!!!

[Big Pete]

If Brøndby and FCK don't win I'm buying pølser and beer for a full day the next time you come to visit Copenhagen, pølsemand :king

[CeresRoyal]

Yes...Extra Pølser og Øl...Pyrtas I see you (G-)dañsk is allmost perfect...

I think Brøndby will play "Italian style" versus Viktoria Zizkov...just hope they wont settle with a 0-0 result... with the rock solid Brøndby defence in mind....

[pyrtas]

BIg Pete - I think you are safe and won`t have to go broke (you know I can wolf mannnny polsers and ols). They gonna win

Ceres - I don`t have that Scandinavian letters to boast about my perfect danish...

[CeresRoyal]

Europa Cup 2003/2004 results:

Round 1. :

FC København - Ferencvaros Budapest (HUN) 1-1 (Pen 4-3) First leg 1-1
Thomas Røll missed pen (29)
0-1: Peter Lipcsei (83)
1-1: Peter Nielsen (pen) (89)
Red card: Dragan Vukmir (92)
Penalties:
1-2: Zoltan Gera (pen) (121)
2-2: Peter Christiansen (pen) (122)
Marius Sasu missed pen (123)
3-2: Peter Nielsen (pen) (124)
Peter Lipcsei missed pen (125)
Peter Møller missed pen (126)
Leanardo missed pen (127)
Thomas Røll missed pen (128)
3-3: Lajos Szucs (pen) (129)
4-3: Álvaro Santos (pen) (130)
FC København win 4-3 on penalties
Attendance : 16,597
A poor FCK preformance in a s***ty match...Thomas Røll being the "bad guy" missing two penalties.....however great drama ending with a great preformance by the Swedish FCK goalkeeper Magnus Kihlsted who saved the day in the penalty shoot-out

FC Nordsjælland - Panionios (GRE) 0-1 (First leg 1-2)
0-1: Alain Raguel (95)
Attendance : 2,606
I was going to write that by some miracle this match ended in a goal-less draw, but the Panionios goal in the last second in the 5 minute extra time only show the kind of misfortune that haunts FC Nordsjælland at the moment...A 5-3 win for FC Nordsjælland would have been a fair result, but it seems the FCN forwards are struck by some curse...

Esbjerg - Spartak Moscow (RUS) 1-1 (First leg 0-2)
0-1: Roman Pavlyuchenko (44)
Red Card: Roman Pavlyuchenko (61)
1-1: Lasse Kryger (87)
Attendance : 6,448 (Aarhus Stadion)
Spartak had one single shot at the Esbjerg goalkeeper in the entire first half...and it gave them the single goal they needed to secure the match...As in the away match Esbjerg "lost" showing their lack of experience .....

FK Crvena Zvezda (Red Star Belgrad)(SBM) - OB Odense 4-3 (First leg 2-2 )
1-0: Nikola Zigic (2)
1-1: Nicolai Stokholm (11)
2-1: Nemanja Vidic (12)
3-1: Bojan Djordjic (27)
3-2: Steffen Højer (38)
3-3: Thomas Lindrup (77)
4-3: Nemanja Vidic (87)
Attendance : ??
I didnt see this match, but as I said, OB Odense allmost allways play much better in the away matches, even thou they lost this one.....Congrats to the former AGF player (last season) Bojan Djordjic , who "produced" the 2nd goal and scored the 3rd goal for Red Star Belgrad...

Thursday :

FK Viktoria Zizkov (CZE) - Brøndby IF (40/60)

[pyrtas]

FCK - damn you!!! Whre is my money!!! They owe me money!!!!

Big Pete - I am coming down to Kopenhagen to speak to those ...... Fill your fridge with polser and ol. ;)

[coobek]

Originally posted by coobek+Oct 15 2003, 10:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (coobek @ Oct 15 2003, 10:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Big Pete@Oct 15 2003, 10:19 AM
I agree with CeresRoyal, so pølsemand your bets are as safe as bets can be&nbsp; :Kenzo's Smiley
Its not safe until Pred League MASTA :king sais its safe and I ain't sayin no nothing, boys. [/b][/quote]
No comments!!!

Big Pete you'll run broke as you buy us a keg of good ol' pirate beer! Aarrgghhh

[CeresRoyal]

Well....it's ok to play a fairly good match and lose against a better team...what annoy me about yesterdays results is the fact, that non of the Danish teams played well and they all did less than an average preformance....and yet OB Odense was very close to get the 3-3 result they needed.... FC Nordsjælland should have won against a clearly less talented opponent....and then FCK's very poor preformance !... thou they did win on penalties....very sad indeed !....

No...no..no !..pyrtas & coobek..I think Big Pete and FCK should be forced to buy you lots of pølser and Ceres Royal øl.....

[Big Pete]

Pølser and Carlsberg øl :Kenzo's Smiley FCK probably had the most luck they have ever had in the history of the game and they played like utter crap. They have now played awful since they bowed out to Glasgow Rangers and the seat under Hans Backe is getting warmer. If OB would have had an ounce of FC luck they would have gone on against Red Star.

pyrtas did you drink Danish or Polish beer from your FCK mug as this might explain your misfortune ;)

Congrats to Wisla and Grocelin! Beating Hertha Berlin quite impressive since they are rather new on the european scene

[coobek]

Originally posted by CeresRoyal@Oct 16 2003, 09:10 AM
No...no..no !..pyrtas & coobek..I think Big Pete and FCK should be forced to buy you lots of pølser and Ceres Royal øl.....
Polse are all right but I'll settle for Specjal :bowing .

[coobek]

Originally posted by Big Pete@Oct 16 2003, 09:29 AM
pyrtas did you drink Danish or Polish beer from your FCK mug as this might explain your misfortune ;)

Swedish :puke

[Big Pete]

Swedish!!! No wonder they played awful that is Brøndby colors and it is very bad mojo.

Kuzeneiro, you are so smart :bowing , which teams can FCK run into in the next round?

[coobek]

Originally posted by Big Pete@Oct 16 2003, 09:39 AM
Swedish!!! No wonder they played awful that is Brøndby colors and it is very bad mojo.

Kuzeneiro, you are so smart :bowing , which teams can FCK run into in the next round?
Well, thank you ;) .

FCK can get the same as Groclin - I posted it in UEFA Cup thread.

[Big Pete]

Ohh so they can also get Wisla how interesting. Actually that would be a crap draw for FCK the way they are playing at the moment since very little geld would be earned from such as match and we would very likely lose. I'm hoping for Benfica, Sporting Lisabon, PAOK or Mallorca because then I can get a tan when I go see them :laugh :laugh

[CeresRoyal]

Swedish øl ??...you surely have been coned...their is no such thing as a real Swedish beer ....

about FCK...at least it can only get better....they have simply hit rock-bottom with this last preformance...

[CeresRoyal]

Europa Cup 2003/2004 results:

Round 1. :

FK Viktoria Zizkov (CZE) - Brøndby IF 0-1 (First leg 0-1)
0-1: 0-1 Kim Daugaard (88)
Attendance : 3,162
As expected Zizkov lost against a rock-solid Brøndby team who denied Zizkov any chance to get even a single shot at the Brøndby goalkeeper in the first half of this rather boring match...

FC København - Ferencvaros Budapest (HUN) 1-1 (Pen 4-3) First leg 1-1
FK Crvena Zvezda (Red Star Belgrad)(SBM) - OB Odense 4-3 (First leg 2-2 )
Esbjerg - Spartak Moscow (RUS) 1-1 (First leg 0-2)
FC Nordsjælland - Panionios (GRE) 0-1 (First leg 1-2)

[pyrtas]

Swedish ol was no more than 3% of alcohol - you can`t buy it in Poland as the weakest here is around 5%.

Brondby won but that FCK draw spoilt my bet!!!!!! Have to retaliate on the FCK mug I think...

[Big Pete]

Spare the mug as it might come in handy if Wisla has to play FCK, then you can try some of your voodoo

[CeresRoyal]

UEFA Cup Round 2 :
FC København (DEN) v RCD Mallorca (ESP)
Brøndby IF (DEN) v FC Schalke 04 (GER)
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It will be FCK's 2nd encounter with a Spanish team in Europa-cup...and the first encounter with a Danish team for Real Mallorca.
1997/98 CWC
R2: Real Betis Sevilla (ESP) - FC København, 2-0 & 1-1

The latest Danish - Spanish UEFA Cup encounters :
2002/03 UC
R1: Celta Vigo (ESP) - OB Odense, 2-0 & 0-1
2001/02 UC
R1: Real Zaragoza (ESP) - Silkeborg, 3-0 & 2-1
2000/01 UC
R2: Rayo Vallecano Madrid (ESP) - Viborg, 1-0 & 1-2
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Only one German team (Borussia Dortmund) have eliminated a Danish team in the UEFA Cup in the past 15 years or so....

Brøndby UEFA Cup statistics :
1996/97 UC
R3: Brøndby IF - SC Karlsruhe (GER), 1-3 & 5-0 (The biggest German UC home defeat ever!)
1993/94 UC
R3: Brøndby IF - Borussia Dortmund (GER), 1-1 & 0-1
1990/91 UC
R1: Brøndby IF - Eintracht Frankfurt (GER), 5-0 & 1-4
R3: Brøndby IF - Bayer Leverkusen (GER), 3-0 & 0-0

[CeresRoyal]

Brøndby news :
Nasr midfielder linked with Danish move.
United Arab Emirates - It is reported that Brøndby are on the trail of Al Nasr midfield star Salah Abbas...."Many European clubs showed interest in the player... He is a talented young playmaker" revealed an official from the club...United Arab Emirates national coach Roy Hodgson had passed on glowing compliments of the 21yo player to Brøndby, despite currently serving out a seven-match ban due to disciplinary problems, the 21yo Abbas remains one of the hottest property of UAE football.

UEFA Cup news :
FC København and head coach Hans Backe got a difficult draw in the UEFA Cup round 2, but the opponent Real Mallorca do not scare the Swedish coach..."It looks interesting. Mallorca play in the worlds best liga and they are with no doubts a good team, but I dont know that much about them yet. It's not going to be easy for us" Hans Backe says.

The Brøndby players was very pleased when they were told, that Schalke is to be their opponent in the UEFA Cup round 2..... The Brøndby head coach Michael Laudrup says " This is nothing less than the perfect draw for us"....The Schalke forward Ebbe Sand, on the other hand, was not pleased... He says " It's allways something special when you play against your former club, but in my eyes this is not a good draw for Schalke"...The Schalke midtfielder and former FCK player Christian Poulsens is a little more optimistic.."I think its good draw...but ofcause it will be a difficult task" he says.

[CeresRoyal]

Brøndby sign Star forward :
Brøndby have signed the forward Peter Ijeh, 26yo (Nigeria 5 caps), Malmö FF, Ijeh who was the topscorer in the Swedish league last season, with 24 goals in 23 matches, refused to sign a new 3 year contract with Malmö worth £350,000...In the end Brøndby chose to sign Ijeh instead of Igor Sypniewski,28yo(POL), Halmstad.....Neither Malmö FF, AGF or IFK Göteborg was able to top the offer made by Brøndby...
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Superliga results :
18/10-2003 :
Frem - FC Nordsjælland 5-1
1-0: Mirko Selak (18.)
1-1: Rasmus Marvits (40.)
2-1: Søren Larsen (45.)
3-1: Kim Christensen (56.)
4-1: Mirko Selak (57.)
5-1: Mirko Selak (67.)
Attendance: 3,045

After 6 defeats in a row, former Aberdeen manager Ebbe Skovdahl took over as manager and changed the 4-5-1 system to 4-4-2 with great sucess, with the Croatian forward Mirko Selak as the star of the match scoring 3 goals, giving Frem a 5-1 win against FC Nordsjælland.

[CeresRoyal]

AGF - Brøndby 1-2
0-1: Morten Wieghorst (7)
1-1: Peter Graulund (13)
1-2: Thomas Kahlenberg (60)
Attendance: 15,495

FC København - OB Odense 2-2
0-1: Steffen Højer (6)
1-1: Peter Møller (11)
2-1: Peter Nielsen (Pen) (42)
2-2: Steffen Højer (74)
Attendance: 17,178


AB København - AaB Ålborg 0-3
0-1: Michael Silberbauer (44)
0-2: David Nielsen (68)
0-3: Christian Lundberg (85)
Attendance: 1,562

FC Midtjylland - Herfølge 0-2
0-1: Chris Hermansen (pen) (74)
0-2: Chris Hermansen (88)
Attendance: 2,076

Viborg - Esbjerg 1-2
0-1: Jess Thorup (48)
1-1: Klaus Kærgård (61)
1-2: Kjetil Pedersen (71)
Attendance: 3,204

Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (12 games)

1.Brøndby................. 12..8 2 2..20- 8.... 26
2.Esbjerg.................. 12..7 3 2..20-13....24
3.FC København........ 12..6 4 2..19-11....22
4.OB Odense............. 12..6 3 3..24-14....21
5.FC Midtjylland......... 12..6 2 4..19-15....20
6.AaB Ålborg .............12..6 2 4..15-12... 20
7.Herfølge..................12..4 2 6..11-11....14
8.Viborg.................... 12..3 4 5..21-22.....13
9.AGF Aarhus.............12..4 1 7..17-25. ...13
10.Frem.................... 12..4 0 8..15-23.....12
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11.FC Nordsjælland.... 12..2 4 6..13-20.....10
12.AB København...... 12..2 1 9.. 9-26...... 7


Goalscorers Top 10 (12 games):

1 Steffen Højer,OB 10
2 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 7
3 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 6
3 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 6
3 Mwape Miti,OB 6
3 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 6
3 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 6
8 Mirko Selak,Frem 5
8 Peter Graulund,AGF 5
8 Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby 5
8 Christian Lundberg,AaB 5

[pyrtas]

That was the last time I put my bet on FCK. 3 bets - 3 down the drain.
Brondby look to be more reliable...

[Big Pete]

I love FCK, but I've learned the hard way not to bet money on them only pølser and øl :laugh :laugh

[CeresRoyal]

Superliga results
22/10-2003 :

Brøndby - Viborg 1-0
1-0: Andreas Jakobsson (88)
Attendance : 15,733

The Polish Viborg goalkeeper Onyszko was highly complimented by Brøndby coach Michael Laudrup in the aftermatch interviews and named "Man of the match" by Danish TV3+. Onyszko showing some worldclass Goalkeeping against a Brøndby team playing "power-play" in most of this match.


OB Odense - AGF Aarhus 4-2
1-0: Mwape Miti (3)
1-1: Tom Christensen (31)
2-1: Mwape Miti (45)
3-1: Steffen Højer (53)
4-1: Mwape Miti (60)
4-2: Peter Graulund (77)
Attendance : 7,497

Just a little statistics : 4 goals or more have been scored in each of the last 12 matches between AGF and OB.


Herfølge - FC København 0-1
0-1: Alvaro Santos (83)
Attendance : 4,043

AaB Ålborg - Frem 0-0
Attendance : 6,978

Esbjerg - AB København 3-1
1-0: Tommy Løvenkrands (29)
2-0: Tommy Bechmann (60)
Red Card: Brian Gellert, AB (70)
3-0: Lasse Kryger (78)
3-1: Kenny Thorup (89)
Attendance : 4,741

FC Nordsjælland - FC Midtjylland 1-7
0-1: Rasmus Daugaard (5)
0-2: Frank Kristensen (10)
0-3: Søren Skriver (32)
0-4: Frank Kristensen (38)
0-5: Frank Kristensen (41)
0-6: Frank Kristensen (52)
0-7: Michael Hansen (54)
1-7: Nichlas Hindsberg (89)
Attendance : 1,011


Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (13 games)

1.Brøndby................. 13..9 2 2..21- 8.... 29
2.Esbjerg.................. 13..8 3 2..23-14....27
3.FC København........ 13..7 4 2..20-11....25
4.OB Odense............. 13..7 3 3..28-16....24
5.FC Midtjylland......... 13..7 2 4..26-16....23
6.AaB Ålborg .............13..6 3 4..15-12... 21
7.Herfølge..................13..4 2 7..11-12....14
8.Viborg.................... 13..3 4 6..21-23.....13
9.Frem...................... 13..4 1 8..15-23.....13
10.AGF Aarhus............13..4 1 8..19-29. ...13
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11.FC Nordsjælland... 13..2 4 7..14-27.....10
12.AB København...... 13..2 1 10..10-29..... 7


Goalscorers Top 10 (13 games):

1 Steffen Højer,OB 11
2 Mwape Miti,OB 9
3 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 7
3 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 7
5 Frank Kristensen,FC Midtjylland 6
5 Peter Graulund,AGF 6
5 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 6
5 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 6
5 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 6
10 Mirko Selak,Frem 5
10 Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby 5
10 Christian Lundberg,AaB 5


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Superliga news:

FC Nordsjælland head coach Christian Andersen may well be the 3rd head coach to get sacked this season after the hopeless 1-7 preformance against FCM ...not to forget the 5-1 defeat to Frem only 3 days ago !...

However, the rumours that AGF coach Poul Hansen is going to be the 2nd coach to get sacked this season and replaced by the Djurgården head coach Sören Åkeby, is the big news in all the Danish media the past few days...

Poul Hansen is demanding answers about his future in the club...The manager Frank Heskjær is refusing to deny anything ...or is he ??...and the owner of AGF, the £50m "rich guy" Kurt Andersens, is saying nothing at all....The Swedish Djurgården coach saying he wont comment on his future situation untill next week, after his last match in Allswenskan as head coach in Djurgården, who just won their 2nd Swedish championship in a row....A guess is that both manager Frank Heskjær and coach Poul Hansen will be looking for a new job in a week or so....but then again...who knows?!?....If your confused ??...well...it's only "business as usual" in AGF...the Danish version of the "madhouse" in Barcelona...

[Big Pete]

I think that AGF should get them fired as soon as possible because if they keep draging it out the players are not going to listen to Poul Hansen, if they indeed are now, and AGF will keep getting their ass kicked.

I don't know much about Søren Åkeby except for seeing Djurgarden play and they are a good team that gets the job done, but they also have a player like Kim Kallstrøm so difficult to say if he can do the same from AGF. However I like the fact that he has so result previously in his career that demands respect.

The way that Onysko played yesterday I couldn't see why he should be called up for the national team. :bowing

[pyrtas]

Originally posted by Big Pete@Oct 23 2003, 08:04 AM


The way that Onysko played yesterday I couldn't see why he should be called up for the national team. :bowing
I can`t believe there is nothing about him in Polish papers!! If he really is doing so well maybe he should change his manager.

[Big Pete]

When I get VCR to work again I'll tape some highlights of his saves and we'll send it to Liga+ then maybe he'll hire me as his manager :)

kuurva nie wiem to jest potrzebjnie!! :Kenzo's Smiley

[pyrtas]

Originally posted by Big Pete@Oct 23 2003, 08:38 AM
When I get VCR to work again I'll tape some highlights of his saves and we'll send it to Liga+ then maybe he'll hire me as his manager :)

kuurva nie wiem to jest potrzebjnie!! :Kenzo's Smiley
:laugh :laugh
Just do it! It may work.

potrzebjnie :o :o what is that man?

[Big Pete]

Hey I don't know how to spell in Polish I'm just givin' a shot gov'n'r

It was supposed to be the past tense of "potrzebowa" i.e. needed

[pyrtas]

Originally posted by Big Pete@Oct 23 2003, 09:00 AM
Hey I don't know how to spell in Polish I'm just givin' a shot gov'n'r

It was supposed to be the past tense of "potrzebowa" i.e. needed
:laugh still don`t get it. anyway - kuurva is funny :laugh

[Big Pete]

Davaj davaj!! :laugh :laugh :laugh

[CeresRoyal]

AGF Coach get sacked:
AGF coach Poul Hansen is the 2nd head coach to get sacked this season, the new coach Sören Åkeby,Djurgården will be presented tuesday at a press conference...The chairman of "AGF contract-football A/S" has resigned however, Frank Heskjær stays as manager of the club....The players are surprised and dissapointed...AGF forward Peter Graulund says "If it was up to me, Poul Hansen would not have been sacked...Poul Hansen is a good coach, and I know all the players thinks the same way"

[coobek]

Originally posted by Big Pete@Oct 23 2003, 10:06 AM
Davaj davaj!! :laugh :laugh :laugh
Yeah I have to have my revenge you maggots.

I was good at footy 'dawaj, dawaj' though! :wayne kerr

[Big Pete]

AGF coach Poul Hansen is the 2nd head coach to get sacked this season, the new coach Sören Åkeby,Djurgården will be presented tuesday at a press conference...The chairman of "AGF contract-football A/S" has resigned however, Frank Heskjær stays as manager of the club....The players are surprised and dissapointed...AGF forward Peter Graulund says "If it was up to me, Poul Hansen would not have been sacked...Poul Hansen is a good coach, and I know all the players thinks the same way"

If he is really surprised he must be dumber than I thought. No result=fired
The first thing your new coach is going to do is get the organization on the team under control just like Backe, so get ready for some less attractive football but with more wins. :)

[Big Pete]

FC Nordsjælland have bought 30-year old striker Tommy Olsen from 1. division club Køge, who are in deep financial distress after being relegated from Superligaen last season.

[pyrtas]

I wonderr why there are no Danish players in Polish league. They should be pretty cheap from the 2nd div in Denmark. But maybe they aren`t good enough.... Or polish clubs lack good scouting...

[Big Pete]

The players in the 2nd division are not good enough to play in the Polish Ekstraklasa, but some of the 1.division players are. However I don't think that many Danish players are willing to go to Eastern Europe to play even if the money is better. At least it has been this way so far and it would take a real lack of jobs before it would be attractive to them since many have images of Poland and other countries that simply isn't reality any more. U know no money, no food etc.

[pyrtas]

Originally posted by Big Pete@Oct 24 2003, 11:29 AM
many have images of Poland and other countries that simply isn't reality any more. U know no money, no food etc.
yes I know. Western ignorance. USA style.... Sad

[Big Pete]

But maybe that will change when you enter into the EU as many benefits from Denmark can be "taken along" when moving to Poland. Also if the money in Polish football get big enough and the money gets smaller in Denmark then they would change their mind. Kind of like the Moscow clubs becoming more attractive to foreign players due to their high wages.

[CeresRoyal]

to Pyrtas.... Most of the players in the Swedish League should be pretty cheap...The Danish players (even in division 1) demand a lot of $ to play in foreign leagues...and by the way...I think I got a list ...yes Danes in European Leagues :

Danish Players in Europe : 71

Iceland: 6
Thor Reykjavik: Jonas Dahl Andersen
IB Vestmannaeyear: Tommy Schramm
FH Hafnarfjördur:
Allan Borgvardt, on loan from AGF (Player of the year on Iceland this season)
Tommy Nielsen
KA Akureyri: Søren Byskov
Trottur: Søren Hermansen

Norway: 4
Odd Grenland: Christian Flindt Bjerg
Lyn Oslo: Steven Lustü
Stabæk: Peter Sand
Start: Morten Larsen

Sweden: 5
Hammerby: Mikkel Jensen
Helsingborgs IF: Kenneth Rasmussen
Malmö FF: Jeppe Vestergaard
Landskrona BoIS: Allan Ravn
Örebro: Lars Larsen

Skotland: 3
Premier League:
Celtic: Ulrik Laursen
Glasgow Rangers:
Peter Løvenkrands,
Jesper Christiansen

N-Ireland: 1
Omagh: Thomas Just Habekost

England: 14
Premier League:
Aston Villa: Thomas Sørensen
Bolton:
Per Frandsen,
Henrik Pedersen
Charlton: Claus Jensen
Chelsea: Jesper Grønkjær
Everton: Thomas Gravesen
Manchester City:
Mikkel Bischoff,
Kevin Stuhr Ellegaard,
Kasper Schmeichel
Manchester United: Mads Timm (U-19)
1. division:
Burnley: Brian Jensen
Coventry: Morten Hyldgaard
West Ham Utd: Thomas Gaardsøe
3.division:
Kidderminster: Bo Henriksen

Germany: 9
Bundesliga:
Bochum:
Søren Colding,
Peter Madsen
Gladbach: Morten Skoubo
Hannover 96: Thomas Christiansen
Schalke 04:
Ebbe Sand,
Christian Poulsen
Wolfsburg:
Thomas Rytter,
Kim Madsen
2. Bundesliga:
Duisburg: Morten Rasmussen

Holland: 14
Ajax Amsterdam: Michael Krohn-Dehli
AZ: Kenneth Perez
Excelcior: Patrick Mtiliga
Feyenoord: Jeppe Curth
Heerenveen:
Allan Bak Jensen,
Lasse Schøne (U),
Salih Kaya
PSV:
Dennis Rommedahl,
Kasper Bøgelund
RBC Roosendaal : Sammy Youssouf
Twente: Kim Christensen
Zwolle: Morten Karlsen
1. division:
Emmen: Kristoffer Johansen
Sparta Rotterdam: Denni Conteh

Belgium: 1
Antwerpen: Anders Nielsen

Austria: 1
FC Kärnten: Thomas Ambrosius

Italy: 8
Serie A:
Ancona : Mads Jørgensen
Brecia: Marc Nygaard
Inter Milan: Thomas Helveg
Milan:
Martin Laursen,
Jon Dahl Tomasson
Udinese:
Per Krøldrup
Martin Jørgensen
Serie C:
Padova: Dan Thomassen

France: 2
1. division:
Bastia: Dan Petersen
Lille: Mikkel Beck

Spain: 1
Primera division:
Real Murcia: Daniel Jensen

Greese: 2
Panathinaikos:
René Henriksen,
Jan Michaelsen

[CeresRoyal]

AGF news:
"- AGF is going to win the Danish League before 2006"
Sören Åkeby, Coach of the year 2000 in Sweden and Swedish champion with Djurgården 2002 and 2003...is not afraid to make a promise "- AGF will get the Gold within 3 years. AGF is a club with a enormouse potential. There is no doubt AGF can be the best in Denmark. This is for sure" Åkeby says..."- My accession was a little quicker than I had expected. Actually I was suppose to begin as coach the 1st january 2004. It'll be a tough start, but at the same time a great challenge."


Darwin methods and the Ajax-system awaits in AGF.
When Åkeby took over as coach in Djurgården (1999) it was a club in debts and confusion...in 2000 he won the club promotion to Allsvenskan and since he has been a trend-setter in the Swedish league...
Charles Darwin method : The strong "survive", the weak will "die"- I do a very thorough research on each player..and I dont need players who think they can do it...only players who are sure in every thing they do" he says...As a person Åkeby has much in common with the Danish national coach Morten Olsen. Both play an attacking (but never naive) type of game ... and both prefer the Ajax-system : 4-3-3

[coobek]

Hope you'll be at least second (FCK 1st) and Brondby svin 3rd!

[CeresRoyal]

Well...as you probably know the FCK (KB of 1876) and AGF (of 1880) fans agree in their wiew on Brøndby (of 1964).....I say no more...

I like this coach Åkeby thou .... He surely dont lack any self-confidence...thou he is right that AGF has a enormouse potential... just take a short look at the average home attendance despite the fact AGF have had some troublesome (6½) years in the bottom of the league.... However, AGF is the only team who have played in the top division every season since 1977...and AGF have only missed out 9 seasons since 1927..

[CeresRoyal]

Superliga results
24/10- 2003:

Herfølge - OB Odense 2-2
0-1: Søren Berg (8)
0-2: Kofi Dakinah (owngoal) (26)
1-2: Anders Jochumsen (75)
Red card: Steffen Højer (80)
2-2: Anders Jochumsen (86)
Attendance : 1,112

25/10- 2003:

Viborg - AGF 4-0
1-0: Morten Poulsen (27)
2-0: Jakob Glerup (43)
3-0: Morten Poulsen (63)
4-0: Thomas Andie (88)
Attendance: 4,310

A "coach-less" AGF played like "headless chicken's" and the former AGF player Morten Poulsen took the opportunity to get revenge by scoring two goals against the club who found him "useless"... AGF get their new head coach on tuesday...


AB København - Brøndby 0-1
0-1: Mattias Jonson (80)
Attendance: 5,845

FC København - FC Nordsjælland 2-0
1-0: Alvaro Santos (23)
2-0: Peter Møller (76)
Attendance: 17,831

FC Midtjylland - AaB Ålborg 2-3
0-1: Michael Silberbauer (9)
0-2: Michael Silberbauer (16)
0-3: Allan Gaarde (35)
1-3: Frank Kristensen (55)
2-3: Frank Kristensen (65)
Michael Hansen,AB (Missed Penalty) (73)
Attendance: 3,191

Frem - Esbjerg 0-4
0-1: Anders Møller Christensen (16)
0-2: Jess Thorup (32)
0-3: Tommy Bechmann (35)
Mirko Selak,Frem (Missed Penalty) (75)
0-4: Tommy Bechmann (86)
Attendance: 3,112


Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (14 games)

1.Brøndby................. 14..10 2 2..22- 8...32
2.Esbjerg.................. 14..9 3 2..27-14....30
3.FC København........ 14..8 4 2..22-11....28
4.OB Odense............. 14..7 4 3..30-18....25
5.AaB Ålborg .............14..7 3 4..18-14... 24
6.FC Midtjylland......... 14..7 2 5..28-19....23
7.Viborg.................... 14..4 4 6..25-23....16
8.Herfølge..................14..4 3 7..13-14....15
9.Frem...................... 14..4 1 9..15-27....13
10.AGF Aarhus............14..4 1 9..19-33....13
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11.FC Nordsjælland.... 14..2 4 8..14-29.....10
12.AB København...... 14..2 1 11..10-30.... 7


Goalscorers Top 10 (14 games):

1 Steffen Højer,OB 11
2 Mwape Miti,OB 9
2 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 9
4 Frank Kristensen,FC Midtjylland 8
5 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 7
6 Peter Graulund,AGF 6
6 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 6
6 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 6
6 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 6
10 Peter Møller,FC København 5
10 Mirko Selak,Frem 5
10 Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby 5
10 Christian Lundberg,AaB 5
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The Danish football history lesson :
In the mid 1980's Brøndby came out of nowhere intruducing professional football in Denmark, making them a top club, and like the "Old Firm" in Scotland, Brøndby and AGF was the two big clubs from the early/mid 80's to the late 90's...In 1992 FC København emerged from a fusion of KB København and B1903. However, only with limited sucess in the 90's with a gold and a silver medal in 1993 and 1994.

Brøndby won the League 3 years in a row 1996-98...AGF got the silver in 96 and the Bronce medal in 97..and then the whole AGF-team was lost due to the Bosman case...AGF had no players and was allmost broke..and with no patience to build up a new team, AGF was buying players they could not afford...getting no quick results...sacking the coach...getting new players..no results...sacking the coach...getting new players..and so on for the past 6½ years ....In the mid/late 90's, it looked like Brøndby would be what Rosenborg is in Norway, but Brøndby had invested their money buying a Bank who went bancrupt and left Brøndby with £20m in debts....

FCK on the other hand, with Chairman Flemming Ammentorp Østergaard (known as Don Ø) in charge, made FCK the most wealthy club in Scandinavia... and the biggest club in Denmark ...At the moment only Brøndby is able to compeat with FCK. However, with a lot of young highly talented players, a rich guy spending £3m the past 2 years in AGF, plus him bringing two new rich investors and £2½m next year..and bringing the most sucessfull and celebrated coach in the Swedish league of the past 4 years, to AGF ...I guess it will only be a matter of a few years, then AGF will be "back on the track" as they were in the 80's and 90's... If coach Åkeby is given a chance to do his job...

[Big Pete]

I still remember when AGF won the Danish Championship with Troels Rasmussen on the team, who I was a big fan of at the time.
Whether AGF can make a rapid and sustainable return to the top of course depends on the abilities of Åkeby but to a higher degree depends on the management outside the field. If they are able to turn AGF into a profitable business that doesn't need injections of cash every 6 months they will have come a long way. I might add that wih such a big market like Århus is I'm still amazed that they haven't succeed in that years ago, but then again when they hadn't setup such simple thing as a merchandise shop until a couple a months ago one shouldn't be surprised. To put things into perspective FCK, Brøndby, AAB and others have had their shops for minimum 5 years

[CeresRoyal]

Yes i remember Big Pete ...AGF had some great players then... Flemming Povlsen, Jan Bartram, Troels Rasmussen, Bjørn Kristensen...and not to forget the legend John Stampe...
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Superliga results
28/10- 2003:

AaB Ålborg - FC København 0-1
0-1:Sibusiso Zuma (76)
Attendance: 10,503

Well...Pyrtas.. Zzzuma scored a great goal in this rather Zzzzz-boring match...not many goal opportunities....

Brøndby - Frem 3-1
0-1: Mirko Selak (4)
1-1: Karsten Johansen (56)
2-1: Jonas Kamper (58)
3-1: Mattias Jonson (77)
Attendance: 15,067

Brøndby played a s***ty match sunday against AB and was lucky to win...and they really looked tired in the first half of this match too...perhaps they will lose a match or two soon ??

AGF - AB København 3-1
1-0: Thomas Thorninger (20)
2-0: Peter Graulund (22)
2-1: Heine Fernandez (25)
3-1: Thomas Thorninger (pen) (29)
Attendance: 7,032

Coach Åkeby's first match with AGF....and his first win.... I guess it's goodbye to AB in the league this season...they look like it's all over for them with 12 defeats in 15 matches...(9 defeats in a row I think ?)

Esbjerg - FC Midtjylland 2-0
1-0: Jan Kristiansen (65)
2-0: Jan Kristiansen (77)
Attendance: 5,565

OB Odense - Viborg 4-2
0-1: Søren Frederiksen (51)
1-1: Fernando Derveld (67)
2-1: Søren Berg (69)
3-1: Kenneth Møller Pedersen (73)
3-2: Sasho Petrovski (86)
4-2: Søren Berg (88)
Attendance: 6,018

FC Nordsjælland - Herfølge 1-1
0-1: Chris Hermansen (5)
1-1: Tommy Olsen (27)
Attendance: 2,385


Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (15 games)

1.Brøndby................. 15..11 2 2..25- 9...35
2.Esbjerg.................. 15..10 3 2..29-14...33
3.FC København........ 15..9 4 2..23-11....31
4.OB Odense............. 15..8 4 3..34-20....28
5.AaB Ålborg .............15..7 3 5..18-15... 24
6.FC Midtjylland......... 15..7 2 6..28-21....23
7.Viborg.................... 15..4 4 7..27-27....16
8.Herfølge..................15..4 4 7..14-15....16
9.AGF Aarhus.............15..5 1 9..22-34. ..16
10.Frem.................... 15..4 1 10..16-30..13
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11.FC Nordsjælland... 15..2 5 8..15-30.....11
12.AB København...... 15..2 1 12..11-33... 7


Goalscorers Top 10 (15 games):

1 Steffen Højer,OB 11
2 Mwape Miti,OB 9
2 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 9
4 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 8
4 Frank Kristensen,FC Midtjylland 8
6 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 7
6 Peter Graulund,AGF 7
8 Mirko Selak,Frem 6
8 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 6
8 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 6

[pyrtas]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzuma!!!

High attendance yesterday was.

[CeresRoyal]

"High attendance yesterday was"....Yep but but you allways get fairly high attendance when FCK, Brøndby, AGF, OB and AaB are playing at home ... and 4 out of the 5 teams did that yesterday.

Average home attendance so far (15 games) :

FC København....... 15,952 (3)
Brøndby................ 14,288 (1)
AGF........................ 9,638 (9)
OB.......................... 8,148 (4)
AaB......................... 7,270 (5)
Esbjerg................... 5,455 (2)
Viborg..................... 4,964 (7)
Frem....................... 3,800 (10)
AB........................... 3,470 (12)
FC Nordsjælland...... 2,594 (11)
FC Midtjylland.......... 2,446 (6)
Herfølge.................. 2,022 (8)

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Arek Onyszko is going to leave Viborg, when his contract expires at the end of this season.In the past few month their have been som confusion about if he would stay in Viborg. First he said, that he would like to find a new club. Then he started negotiations with Viborg. And now his agent Mads Winther says -"We cant agree with Viborg on a new contract and the disagreement is mainly about money.... and i dont see any chance of new negotiations with Viborg...I see it as definitive, that Arek Onyszko will leave Viborg at the end of this season."

[pyrtas]

Originally posted by CeresRoyal@Oct 30 2003, 01:01 PM
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Arek Onyszko is going to leave Viborg, when his contract expires at the end of this season.In the past few month their have been som confusion about if he would stay in Viborg. First he said, that he would like to find a new club. Then he started negotiations with Viborg. And now his agent Mads Winther says -"We cant agree with Viborg on a new contract and the disagreement is mainly about money.... and i dont see any chance of new negotiations with Viborg...I see it as definitive, that Arek Onyszko will leave Viborg at the end of this season."
Is there any demand on his skills in Denmark? The wors thing an ambitious footballer can do is to fall out with his employer leave and.... stay jobless.

[Big Pete]

I think there is a possibility that he might go on a free transfer to FCK, since our current first choice goalkeeper, Magnus Kihlstedt, contract expires then. He has to leave Denmark because he is being taxed lower due to being specialized labour however if he is still in Denmark after three years he has to repay the discount he got on his taxes the previous years.

Superstrike yesterday by Zuma in what was really a boring match, but Aab also played a 4-5-1 formation at home.

[CeresRoyal]

My personal wiew :
Arek Onyszko wants to leave Viborg to play in a bigger club .... since the transfermarket is allmost dead at the moment, he knows that with him being among the top 3 goalkeepers in the league... and going public with the news that he will soon be availabel on a free transfer...it will be easy for him to find a new club....

I agree with Big Pete.... I guess FCK probably is interested in a new goalkeeper, Balazs Raboczki is simply not good enough at the moment ... and even thou Magnus Kihlsted is doing a good job... their is the problem with his contract, (It's a 3 year 25% tax deal) that expires at the end of this season...so either they let him go on a free transfer or they probably need to pay him twice as much in wages ...

Brøndby got Karim Zaza 28yo (DEN/Morocco, 1 cap) and Casper Ankergren 24yo (U21, 3 caps) so they dont need a new goalkeeper... Esbjerg got a good goalkeeper in Lars Winde (one U21 cap, former AaB and Casino Bregenz),OB Odense.. perhaps a chance ??..., AaB got Jimmy Nielsen 26yo (U21, 17 caps former Millwall), AGF got two highly tallented keepers in Steffen Rasmussen 21yo (DEN U21) and 2nd keeper Rune Pedersen 23yo (U21, 8 caps, former FCK and Modena ), FC Midtjylland got Peter Skov-Jensen 32yo (2 Danish caps)...
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Picture:
Happy-days at Aarhus stadion 28/10- 2003

[CeresRoyal]

TIPS-bladet(*ESM): Superliga Allstar Team of the month (October) :

Goalkeeper: Morten Cramer,Herfølge

Defenders :
Trond Andersen (NOR),AaB...Andreas Jacobsson (SWE),Brøndby...Kjetil Pedersen(NOR),Esbjerg

Midtfielders :
Michael Silberbauer,AaB...Kim Kristensen,Frem
Jerry Lucena,Esbjerg...Jesper Sørensen,AB

Forwards:
Frank Kristensen,FC Midtjylland...Mwape Miti (zambia),OB...Peter Møller,FCK
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Reserves:
GK : Arek Onyszko (POL),Viborg
Defenders: Allan Olesen,AaB..Peter Christiansen,FCK..Jacob Poulsen,Esbjerg
MF+FW: Mirko Selak (CRO),Frem...Steffen Højer,OB...Mattias Jonson (SWE),Brøndby

*ESM = European Sports Magazines (The 10 most respected football magazines in Europe)
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[CeresRoyal]

Superliga results
01/11 - 2003:

FC Midtjylland - Brøndby 0-2
0-1: Jonas Kamper (19)
0-2: Thomas Kahlenberg (24)
Attendance: 5,849

Brøndby playing a brilliant first half, with the two DEN-U21 players Jonas Kamper and Thomas Kahlenberg playing a dominant role scoring the two goals...Then a 2nd half with a Brøndby team relying totaly on their rock-solid defence, showing that they are allmost invincible at the moment...

02/11 - 2003:

AB København - Viborg 0-3
0-1: Klaus Kærgård (43)
0-2: Søren Frederiksen (68)
0-3: Sasho Petrovski (91)
Attendance: 1,201

Well..A very poor AB preformance and the 10th AB defeat in a row .. It looks like the Superliga record of 12 defeats in a row may be beaten....


Frem - AGF Aarhus 1-2
0-1: Thomas Thorninger (19)
0-2: Shane Cansdell-Sherriff (58)
1-2: Lars Brøgger (75)
Attendance: 3,151

An excellent first half with lots of goal opportunities however, only the one brilliant goal by the former Udinese player Thomas Thorninger....AGF playing a more defencive 2nd half thou the former Leeds player Shane Sherriff(AUS U21) got to score his first goal for AGF...coach Åkeby getting his 2nd deserved win in two matches...

Herfølge - AaB Ålborg
0-1: David Nielsen (8)
0-2: Christian Lundberg (41)
1-2: Chris Hermansen (48)
1-3: David Nielsen (61)
2-3: Anders Jochumsen (71)
3-3: Morten Avnskjold (91)
Attendance: 1,678

Great entertainment from both teams...even thou AaB was playing a very defencive 2nd half..

FC Nordsjælland - OB Odense 3-0
1-0: Denni Conteh (48)
2-0: Tommy Olsen (72)
3-0: Carsten Fredgaard (83)
Attendance: 1,679

Probably the most boring first half of any match this season...A 2nd half with a FCN team playing with more self-confidence against a very poor playing OB team...

FC København - Esbjerg 0-1
0-1:Tommy Bechmann (10)
Peter Nielsen,FCK (Missed Penalty) (17)
Red card: Anders Møller Christensen,Esbjerg (40)
Attendance: 22,220

Esbjerg clearly being the better team in the first half of this match.... However, a red card given to Esbjerg made them play very defencive in the 2nd half...FCK allmost playing "power-play", thou getting nowhere against a solid Esbjerg defence...


Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (16 games)

1.Brøndby................. 16..12 2 2..27- 9.... 38
2.Esbjerg.................. 16..11 3 2..30-14....36
3.FC København........ 16..9 4 3..23-12......31
4.OB Odense............. 16..8 4 4..34-23......28
5.AaB Ålborg .............16..7 4 5..21-18..... 25
6.FC Midtjylland......... 16..7 2 7..28-23......23
7.Viborg.................... 16..5 4 7..30-27......19
8.AGF Aarhus.............16..6 1 9..24-35. ....19
9.Herfølge..................16..4 5 7..17-21......17
10.FC Nordsjælland....16..3 5 8..18-30......14
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11.Frem.................... 16..4 1 11..17-32....13
12.AB København..... 16..2 1 13..11-36..... 7


Goalscorers Top 10 (16 games):

1 Steffen Højer,OB 11
2 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 10
3 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 9
3 Mwape Miti,OB 9
5 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 8
5 Frank Kristensen,FC Midtjylland 8
7 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 7
7 Peter Graulund,AGF 7
9 Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby 6
9 Christian Lundberg,AaB 6
9 Mirko Selak,Frem 6
9 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 6

[CeresRoyal]

Well...It's time for the UEFA Cup....how are the the Danish clubs chances ??...Lets see :

Europa Cup 2003/2004 Round 2 :
FC København - RCD Mallorca (ESP) 30/70
FC Schalke 04 (GER) - Brøndby IF 50/50
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It will be FCK's 2nd encounter with a Spanish team in Europa-cup...and the first encounter with a Danish team for Real Mallorca.... FC København is not playing well at the moment...so I guess probably a draw in the home match and that FCK will lose the away match...
The latest FCK - Spanish UEFA Cup encounter :
1997/98 CWC
R2: Real Betis Sevilla (ESP) - FC København, 2-0 & 1-1

The latest Danish - Spanish UEFA Cup encounter :
2002/03 UC
R1: Celta Vigo (ESP) - OB Odense, 2-0 & 0-1

The FCK Europa Cup matches this season 2003/2004:
Champions League:
Q2 : FC København - Sliema Wanderers (MLT) 4-1, 6-0
Q3 : Glasgow Rangers (SCO)- FC København 1-1, 2-1
Uefa Cup:
R1 : Ferencvaros Budapest (HUN) - FC København 1-1, 1-1 (Penalty shootout 2-3)
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Only one German team (Borussia Dortmund) have eliminated Brøndby in the UEFA Cup ... and they were lucky to do so .... Since Brøndby is a better away team, they probably need to win or get at least a 1-1 or 2-2 result in the away match... I wont be surprised if Brøndby draw/lose the home match...However, I'm sure they will score at least one goal in the away match like they allways do...
The latest Brøndby - German UEFA Cup encounter :
1996/97 UC
R3: Brøndby IF - SC Karlsruhe (GER), 1-3 & 5-0 (The biggest German UC home defeat ever!)

The Brøndby UEFA Cup matches this season 2003/2004:
QR : Brøndby IF - Dinamo Minsk (BLS) 3-0, 2-0
R1 : Brøndby IF - FK Viktoria Zizkov (CZE) 1-0, 1-0
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Picture :
Magnus Kihlsted saves FCK in the Ferencvaros Penalty shootout !

[Big Pete]

It doesn't look good for FCK even though Mallorca got their ass kicked by Valencia, since they got a man red carded after 1 minute while commiting a penalty. The biggest problem for FCK is their inefficienty of course combined with the lack a constructive attacking football. They are only able to score on penalties, roughly 50% of time and rarely score more than 1 goal per match, which simply is not enough in Europe or Denmark for that matter unless you can prevent the opponent from scoring and they haven't been successful in that yet.
Real Betis was also place in the bottom end of the table when we faced them, but had good players like Alfonso, Findi George and others that proved to be difference in some thight matched. So unless FCK start putting their chances away I'm affraid we'll have a repeat with Eto'o playing a central role.
Brøndby on the other hand are not overmatched by Schalke 04 and in my opinion have a 60-40 chance of advancing against.

[coobek]

Originally posted by Big Pete@Nov 4 2003, 08:54 AM
Real Betis was also place in the bottom end of the table when we faced them, but had good players like Alfonso, Findi George and others ...
Like Wojtek Kowalczyk ;) - Olympic 1992 Hero and a drunkard + Cyprus League top scorer.

[coobek]

Anyway I cheer for FCK. Why is it that we can't score goals Pete? Is Zouma in drop of his form or he doesn't get any passess. I saw some Brazilian scoring for FCK recently - is he good?

[CeresRoyal]

"I saw some Brazilian scoring for FCK recently - is he good? "

Your thinking of FCK's "new" 23yo striker Alvaro Santos ... well.... they did consider him the brightest star in the Swedish Allsvenskan, were he scored 35 goals in 63 games for Helsingborg....and I think FCK payed around £1½m for him.... However, he had been injured and out for about 3-4 month when they got him just before the Rangers match... he scored the 1-1 goal against Rangers, but he didnt seem to be fit... He's gettin better thou...and certanly got the quality to be a star player (probably next season)....but I guess it's still a little to soon....
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Morten Olsen speaks:
The Danish National Coach Morten Olsen is never afraid to say what he thinks... Yesterday in a TV show on Viasat Sport, he was asked why the defender Per Krøldrup, Udinese , is not good enough for the Danish national team.... thou he never wish to comment on each/any player, he did say this -"I think the Italian serie A is overrated. In my wiew ther is only 5 to 6 very good teams. The rest of the teams are at about the same level as the teams in the Danish league.."he allso said- "I will never be a national coach for another country than Denmark. I'm proud to be a National coach, but I could never imagine my self as a national coach in another country.." Morten Olsens contract with DBU expires in 2006 ...
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Danish Superliga Statistics:

Scoring goals in away matches (matches in a row):
38 Brøndby (august 2001 to ??)
19 Lyngby (may 1995 - may 1996)
16 Silkeborg (june 1997 - may 1998)
15 AGF Aarhus (september 1996 - august 1997)
15 Brøndby (may 1991 - marts 1992)

Scoring goals in home matches (matches in a row):
54 Brøndby (april 1995 - may 1998)
36 Vejle (oktober 1996 - november 1998)
25 FC Midtjylland (april 2002 - oktober 2003)
25 AGF Aarhus (april 2002 - september 2003)
22 Brøndby (december 2001 - may 2003)

Scoring goals in home/away matches (matches in a row):
44 Brøndby (december 2001 - may 2003)
24 Brøndby (may 1996 - november 1996)
22 Brøndby (november 2000 - august 2001)
22 Brøndby (september 1997 - may 1998)
22 Frem (march 1991 - august 1991)

[Big Pete]

Anyway I cheer for FCK. Why is it that we can't score goals Pete? Is Zouma in drop of his form or he doesn't get any passess. I saw some Brazilian scoring for FCK recently - is he good?

It's spelled Zuma my dear cousin :)

Zuma is not a striker he's is a forward who creates chances and occasionally scores goals. When he scores it is usually in certain periods, but he is not very efficient so this was the reason we bought this supposed goal-machine Álvaro Santos who in CM4 pours them in when buying him in the Brazilian league. The excuse for him not scoring is his injury, but so far it doesn't look like he'll be a goal-machine in Denmark. First during his long injury he must have spent too much time in the weight room and bulked up, resulting in a decrease in his speed and acceleration since he seems a lot slower than the couple of times I've seen him on Swedish TV. Or maybe the Danish defenders are just faster. Adding to that something that cannot be attributed to the injury, his first touch. It's awful that he is Brazilian is difficult to believe since the ball jumps 2-3 meters from him most of the time, maybe his speed made up for this in the past but now it just looks embarrasing. What speaks to his favor is that he is still relatively young, 23, and therefore might develop as a player and become a goal-machine, but I do have my doubts. He's looking more and more like a Jørgen Petterson.

Generally there are to few good passes to the forwards in FCK due to an overall bad playing team that rely to much on long balls when taking into account the skills of the players i.e. managers fault

[pyrtas]

23 years of age and so bad ball-reception? Must be Heskey the 2nd!. Speed is nothing when you cant "glue" the pass.

FCK play bad lately. And this is why i tend to leave their games out when betting.

[Big Pete]

In betting terms Brøndby are the safer bet, score more goals and therefore less likely to draw than FCK that rarely score more than one goal. However be careful to bet on the Copenhagen Firm as these matched are very difficult to predict, but have very few draws

[CeresRoyal]

Well... To be quite frank the lack of a real "goal-machine" it's not a new FCK problem...actually FCK have never had a Liga topscorer..and when they buy one it's allways like he is struck by some strange (Brøndby ?) curse...just take a short look at the statistics :

Danish Champions and Top scorers in the Danish league:

1993: FC København.
Peter Møller, AaB 20 goals
Lars Elstrup,OB 12
Martin Johansen,FCK 12

1994: Silkeborg.
Søren Frederiksen,Silkeborg/Viborg 18
Ove Hansen, Ikast 16
Lars Højer Nielsen,FCK 13

1995: AaB.
Erik Bo Andersen, AaB 24
Peter Rasmussen,AaB 16
Mark Strudal,Brøndby 12
Lars Højer Nielsen,FCK 12
Per Frandsen,FCK 12

1996: Brøndby.
Thomas Thorninger,AGF 20
Per Pedersen,OB 16
Steffen Højer 16
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Lars Højer Nielsen,FCK 8
Michael Johansen,FCK 8

1997: Brøndby.
Miklos Molnar,Lyngby 26
Peter Møller,Brøndby 22
Thomas Thorninger,AGF 19
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Bjarne Goldbæk,FCK 7

1998: Brøndby.
Ebbe Sand,Brøndby 28
Søren Hermansen,Aarhus Fremad 19
Lars Brøgger,Ikast 17
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David Nielsen,FCK 11

1999: AaB.
Heine Fernandez,Viborg 23
Chris Hermansen,AB 19
Ebbe Sand,Brøndby 19
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David Nielsen,FCK 15

2000: Herfølge.
Peter Lassen,Silkeborg 16
Hans Eklund,Viborg 15
Søren Andersen,OB 14
-
David Nielsen,FCK 8

2001: FC København.
Peter Graulund,Brøndby 21
Henrik Pedersen,Silkeborg 20
Søren Frederiksen,Viborg/AaB 19
-
Todi Jonsson,FCK 12

2002: Brøndby.
Kaspar Dalgas,OB 22
Peter Madsen,Brøndby 22
Morten Skoubo,FC Midtjylland 19
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Sibusiso Zuma,FCK 10

2003: FC København.
Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 18
Jan Kristiansen,Esbjerg 18
Frank Kristensen,FC Midtjylland 15
Mwape Miti,OB 14
Tommy Bechmann;Esbjerg 13
Mattias Jonson,Brøndby 13
Sammy Youssouf,AB 13
Todi Jonsson,FCK 12
Mohammed Zidan,AB 12

2004: non yet.
so far (16 of 33 games)
1.Steffen Højer,OB 11
2.Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 10
3.Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 9
3.Mwape Miti,OB 9
5.Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 8
5.Frank Kristensen,FC Midtjylland 8
5.Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 7
5.Peter Graulund,AGF 7
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13 Jonas Kamper,Brøndby 5
13 Thomas Thorninger,AGF 5
13 Søren Larsen,Frem 5
13 Peter Møller,FC København 5

[Big Pete]

Old news for me of cause, but CeresRoyal is correct

Brattbak was alright compared to other FCK strikers, but was sold to bring in Pascal Simpson :clap :clap

[CeresRoyal]

Europa Cup 2003/2004 Round 2 results :

FC København - RCD Mallorca (ESP) 1-2
0-1: own goal (Martin Albrechtsen) (28)
1-1: Martin Albrechtsen (31)
1-2: Domingo Nagore Arbizu (72)
Attendance: 20,487

Well...in my wiew a poor playing FCK without some of their best players Thomas Røll, Erik Mykland against an allmost just as poor Mallorca team .... But I'll let Big Pete do the talking ??...

FC Schalke 04 (GER) - Brøndby IF 2-1
0-1: Andreas Jakobsson (34)
1-1: Mike Hanke (59)
2-1: Mike Hanke (72)
Attendance: 50,538

A very good playing Schalke team, with the one-man army Mike Hanke scoring two goals in a deserved win against a poor playing Brøndby team... Only a very few of the Brøndby players like Morten Wieghorst and Andreas Jakobsson did their usual solid preformance .... especially the younger players and Mattias Jonson did a very poor job in this match...Thou I guess both teams will be happy with the result....And the chances ??....still 50/50 I would say...

[CeresRoyal]

Team news :
Exactly one year ago Sibusiso Zuma signed a new contract with FCK binding him to the club untill the year 2006...Hovever, now Zuma regrets the contract. He says " Dont get me wrong. I love FCK. Me and my family feel at home at the club... But it was a clear mistake not just to let the contract expire. I should have taken the chance to be on a free transfer.... I'm sure they, like me, had figured that they would sell me at some point...and I'm not getting any younger."..Zuma was the only FCK player showing some "class" in the dissapointing UEFA Cup defeat against Mallorca, and the poor FCK Europa Cup preformance the past few years are a main reson why he wants to leave the club -" My friends say I should move on to a bigger club....but it dosnt do me any good when we get kicked out in 1st and 2nd runde...I think I played well against Mallorca...but as a team we were not good enough...It was very dissapointing to see that they could win 2-1 without even playing well«" he says...

Brøndby coach Michael Laudrup was unhappy with the preformance in the 1-2 UEFA Cup defeat in the away match against Schalke...however fairly happy with the result and he thinks Brøndby still got a 50/50 chance...

AGF have signed a historic 4 year sponsor contract with the sportwear compagny Hummel worth about £1m...and for the first time in history giving a Danish club exclusive full rights of sales,distribution, merchandising and developing of the clubs own custom-made sportswear...
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Superliga results
08/11 - 2003:

AGF Aarhus - FC Midtjylland
1-0: Josta Dladla (26)
2-0: Thomas Thorninger (46)
Red card: Niclas Carlsson,AGF (80)
2-1: Michael Hansen (pen) (81)
Attendance: 8,026

AGF got their 3rd win in a row against a FCM team who hardly got one single shot on goal in the first half...a good playing AGF team with defender and DEN U-21 player Leon Andreasen back on the team as one of the best players (He has been injured for 3 weeks with a broken hand)... Man of the match named by danish TV3 the South African national Josta Dladla who scored an excellent goal and showed som brilliant technique and dribbling skills...Thou AGF dominated most of this match and should have scored 2-3 goals more, they got into a bit of trouble in the last 15 minutes, getting a red card.. giving the penalty goal for FCM....

[CeresRoyal]

General news:

AaB Alborg got a 16yo junior super-talent in the U-17 goalkeeper Kenneth Stenild Nielsen, who is wanted by some of the biggest clubs in Europe, he has just returned from a short visit at Manchester United, who thinks he may be the new "Peter Schmeichel."

"I've never seen anything like this . This season there was 8 Premier League clubs asking Kenneth to pay their club a visit. With him and his parents we chose to visit United and Arsenal, so he will get a sense of what it's like in a big club." AaB sports manager Lynge Jacobsen says....however, AaB still got Kenneth on a 3 year contract...
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Brøndby and Ijeh ?? :
Brøndby was said to have signed the forward Peter Ijeh, 26yo (Nigeria 5 caps), Malmö FF (Ijeh who was the topscorer in the Swedish league last season, with 24 goals in 23 matches) but now Brøndby deny that they know anything about a contract or that they would even be interested in signing Ijeh...Ijeh maintain that he know nothing about his future...-" I cant get hold on my Agent...He has totaly vanished and dosnt answer any phone calls or return messages." Ijeh says...
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Brøndby coach Michael Laudrup won the Danish old boys championship with his club Lyngby !? yesterday. Laudrup scored 4 goals for Lyngby in the old boys DC-final 4-1 win against AGF...The oldboys Cup final (AGF - Lyngby) will be played on wednesday giving AGF a chance to get even....

[CeresRoyal]

Superliga results
08/11 - 2003:

AGF Aarhus - FC Midtjylland 2-1
Attendance: 8,026

08/11 - 2003:

Brøndby - FC København 2-2
0-1: Sibusiso Zuma (11)
1-1: Morten Wieghorst (47)
1-2: Sibusiso Zuma (55)
2-2: Andreas Jakobsson (79)
Attendance: 28,946

Zuma was simply pure class in this fantastic match, absolute the best football from the two clubs this season... If they just would play like this in their UEFA Cup matches they wouldnt have any problems beating their opponents... Thou Brøndby was the better team in the first half of this excellent match, Zuma played like a dream scoring the brilliant goal... the match got even better in the 2nd half and 2-2 was a fair result of this genuine Super-liga match !....This was FCK's 13th away match in a row without defeat...If they dont lose two more away league-matches then it's a club record...

AaB Alborg - FC Nordsjælland 3-3
0-1: Tommy Olsen (17)
1-1: Stefan Schmidt (pen) (21)
1-2: Denni Conteh (30)
1-3: Carsten Fredgaard (54)
2-3: Mads Bro Hansen (75)
3-3: Christian Lundberg (77)
Attendance: 7,272

Esbjerg - Herfølge 2-0
1-0: Tommy Bechmann (52)
2-0: Tommy Bechmann (80)
Attendance: 5,434

Esbjerg at the top of the league after yet another deserved win....and the DEN-U21 player Tommy Bechmann at the top of the goalscores list.... If Esbjerg do not lose their talents to some big foreign clubs, they may have a chance to end up as Danish champions this season...


OB Odense - AB København 1-0
1-0: Mwape Miti (61)
Attendance: 5,339

Viborg - Frem 0-0
Red Card: Asbjørn Sennels,Viborg (82)
Attendance: 3,092


Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (17 games)

1.Esbjerg.................. 17..12 3 2..32-14....39
2.Brøndby................. 17..12 3 2..29-11... 39
3.FC København........ 17..9 5 3..25-14.....32
4.OB Odense............. 17..9 4 4..35-23.....31
5.AaB Ålborg .............17..7 5 5..24-21..... 26
6.FC Midtjylland......... 17..7 2 8..29-25.....23
7.AGF Aarhus.............17..7 1 9..26-36. ....22
8.Viborg.................... 17..5 5 7..30-27.......20
9.Herfølge..................17..4 5 8..17-23......17
10.FC Nordsjælland... 17..3 6 8..21-33......15
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11.Frem..................... 17..4 2 11..17-32....14
12.AB København...... 17..2 1 14..11-37.... 7


Goalscorers Top 10 (17 games):

1 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 12
2 Steffen Højer,OB 11
3 Mwape Miti,OB 10
4 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 9
5 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 8
5 Frank Kristensen,FC Midtjylland 8
7 Christian Lundberg,AaB 7
7 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 7
7 Peter Graulund,AGF 7
10 Thomas Thorninger,AGF 6
10 Sibusiso Zuma,FC København 6
10 Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby 6
10 Mirko Selak,Frem 6
10 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 6

[Big Pete]

First the Mallorca game: Simply a terrible performance if one can call it a performance. A reserve squad from Mallorca scored two simple goals while FCK couldn't put any preasure on them and played a sloppy round of football. The match supports my view of Hans Backe that he doesn't have what it takes to make FCK a European class team. Brøndby vs. FCK was a super match where Brøndby had a load of chances in the 1st half but didn't connect on them. FCK were ahead two times, failed to close the match letting Brøndby score twice on set pieces (corner and freekick) which is simply not good enough even though Brøndby had more chances overall. A late shoot on the post at 2-2 was the closest FCK got to the win. FCK played better with Zuma being outstanding, but then FCK always raise their game against Brøndby so the real test is the next match and whether they can play like that against other teams.
I'm hoping Hans Backe gets the position of Swedish National coach after Euro 2004 as he's rumoured to be the frontrunner for, because then we can finally get rid of him and get some money out of it as well :king

Urmas Rooba (DL) is out for at least half a year after tearing a ligament in the Mallorca match, which means that Peter Christiansen is safe as left full-back even though his performance in the latest matches has been dismal

[CeresRoyal]

The positive thing of the Mallorca match is , that I dont think Mallorca can play much better at the moment that they did against FCK.... They are simply not that good a team, even with their other first team players... FCK however, can play much better... and if they do play as good as in the Brøndby-FCK match...perhaps they still got a chance in the match in Mallorca.... like when Brøndby won in Tenerife some years ago...

In the Brøndby-FCK match it clearly looked like Zuma wanted to prove that he regret some of his statements to the press .... and he did show that it's not only empty words when he did say "Dont get me wrong. I love FCK. Me and my family feel at home at the club.."

"I'm hoping Hans Backe gets the position of Swedish National coach"... Probably a good idea... I've never been that big a "fan" of Hans Backe .... but who should take over as Coach in FCK then ??....I know FCK wanted Sören Akeby but now he is in AGF... so who do you think it will be ??...

"so the real test is the next match"... Yep FCK - AGF ... the real test for AGF and akeby too... may the best coach win...he he
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About AGF coach Sören Akeby ...he was named Swedish coach of the year 2003, yesterday... he.. he...I still think it was quite a scoop to get him as AGF coach...

[Big Pete]

I don't have a name, but in my mind it has to be a coach outside Scandinavian as Morten Olsen is the only Danish coach that can do a better job than Backe and as for Norway and Sweden I don't see any candidates.
Most coaches will go anywhere if the money are good and they need a proving ground. Look at Nevio Scala and Lothar Matthaus.

There was some rumours in the Swedish press about Åkeby and FCK, but they were pretty far fetched and I doubt that he would have joined AGF if FCK were really interested. I.e. we could offer him a lot more money.

I still think it was quite a scoop to get him as AGF coach...

I agree I think it was the smartest thing AGF have done in a very long time

[CeresRoyal]

"There was some rumours in the Swedish press about Åkeby and FCK, but they were pretty far fetched and I doubt that he would have joined AGF if FCK were really interested. I.e. we could offer him a lot more money."

Åkeby was named Swedish coach of the year 2002 as well.. so I dont think the The rumours was that far fetched .... However the problem was that Åkeby allready had told Djurgarden he was leaving the club at the end of this season, and he would hardly wait for FCK to sack his good friend Hans Backe so he could take his place...

I know AGF pay him about £100,000 a year (netto after paying 25% in taxes)... that's more than 3 times as much as he got in Djurgarden... and they were not able to give him a better offer in any of the other (Swedish) clubs... as usual the Danish 25% tax strikes again !!.... They are getting quite tired of this in the Swedish clubs and they have asked the Swedish government to get the same tax options...(They do have a 25% tax in Sweden as well, but only for a 6 month period and not for 3 years like in Norway and Denmark)

[Big Pete]

I don't mean it is far fetched in the sense he's a bad coach. It was just that how I remember reading it was something about Åkeby becoming Backes assistant until the summer where Backe would then become the Swedish national coach and Åkeby would then takeover. I simply have a hard time believing FCK management going for a deal like that or maybe that is why he went to AGF. One guy that knows it for sure is Åkeby :)

[Big Pete]

Actually there is one manager in Scandinavia I would like to see in FCK: Ståle Solbakken :)

[CeresRoyal]

Royal League :
Now it should finally be a fact.... A Scandinavian league (to start in november next year) has been approved by the Swedish and Norwegian league clubs.... The problem was to get an approval from Rosenborg, but an agreement was made. In the original idea the four best teams in each league (Norway, Sweden and Denmark) would have to play in a Qualification group against each other, with only to teams qualifying for the Royal League = 2 Norwegian, 2 Swedish and 2 Danish teams. However, Rosenborg would not accept this, so this is how it will be :

The two best teams in Norway will face eg. the 3rd best team in the Danish league, and the 4th best team from Sweden.... in a Qualification group...
The two best teams in Sweden will face eg. the 3rd best team from Norway and the 4th best team from Denmark... in a Qualification group....
The two best teams in Denmark will face eg. the 3rd best team from Sweden and the 4th best team form Norway...in a Qualification group...

Then the two best teams from each group will qualify for the Royal League....Rosenborg allso asked that the winner of the "Royal League" gets a spot in the Europa Cup.... however, this is for different resons, not possible at the moment... so the clubs will play for prize money and the Scandinavian title only...

About the prize money : about 80% is from TV revenues = in the area of £5m the first season, then about £10m per season if the league is successful...however, the TV contracts are not signed yet... It will all be cleared up before the 1st December...
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Old boys cup final (Aarhus Stadion) :
AGF - Lyngby 2-1
Attendance : 800

AGF got even by beating Lyngby and the Laudrup brothers 2-1 in the Danish old boys Cup final (Lyngby won the old boys Danish championship-final by beating AGF 4-1 a few days ago)... The two AGF goals was scored by Frank Pingel and the Lyngby goal by Flemming Christensen...Perhaps they are not as fast as they use to be, but I think it's allways fun to see this "parade" of "old" Danish football stars playing ....Some of the Lyngby old boys players:
Michael Laudrup (104 caps 37 goals) former Brøndby, Lazio, Juventus, Barcelona, Real Madrid
Brian Laudrup (82 caps 21 goals), former Brøndby, Bayern M. , Milan, Rangers
Klaus Berggreen (46 caps 5 goals), former Pisa, Roma, Torino
Henrik Larsen (39 caps 5 goals) former Pisa, Aston Villa
John Helt (39 caps )
Bent Christensen (26 caps 8 goals) Schalke, Olympiakos
Torben Piechnik (15 caps), former FCK, Liverpool, AGF
Flemming Christensen (11 caps 2 goals)

Some of the AGF old boys players:
Flemming Povlsen (62 caps 21 goals), former Dortmund, PSV, Köln
Marc Rieper (61 caps 2 goals), former Celtic, West Ham
Bjørn Kristensen (20 caps 2 goals), former Newcastle, Portsmouth
Claus Thomsen (20 caps), former Ipswich, Everton
Frank Pingel (11 caps 5 goals), former 1860 München
Lars Lundkvist (10 caps 1 goal)
John Stampe (1 cap)

[CeresRoyal]

AaB to sign Djurgarden player:
Markus Karlsson the 31yo Swedish Djurgarden player, who just turned down an offer from the Dutch club Willem II worth £150,000 a year, is on his way to AaB Ålborg...it's the new Swedish coach in AaB (Erik Hamrén) who wants to sign Karlsson ... Djurgarden has confirmed the rumour...and Karlsson say he's ready to sign a contract with AaB if he gets the right offer...
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Danish School Tournament (14-17 year-olds) 2003 final:

UC Nygard, Brøndby - Laursens Real, Aarhus 2-3
Attendance : 11,014

As you can see, the School Tournament is quite a big deal in Denmark. It has been going on for 42 years, televised on national TV2 (Live)...high attendance in the final... and a some quite good football...The big star of this highly entertaining and well played Final was Mathias Fischer, scoring two goals for Laursens Real (and 12 goals in the Tournament)...

[coobek]

Sounds exciting this Nordic League - but will the clubs bear so many games?

[pyrtas]

11 000 people for school tournament final? Amazing. Is it some kind of custom or what?

[Big Pete]

It's tradition, but the entrance is also free :)

About the Nordic League I think it will be very hard on the Danish teams as they still have games in the Danish League for quite a while into the tournament and if, this a big if, one of them qualifies for the CL or goes far in the UEFA cup the schedual will be exhausting. But then that might mean that some of the fringe of talents gets more playing time against tough opponents. The other good thing about the Nordic League is that the long winter break with no league football will be smaller or filled with some matches and it will not be so boring as it is now :clap

I'm very postive about the idea and hope it will become reality, the biggest problem as I see it is the weather. It freaking cold in December in Denmark, but that is nothing compared to Sweden and Norway. Brrrr!!!!!!!!!!

[Big Pete]

On a little funny note:

PS&E or FCK mother company are bidding on the right to run/operate Atletion, the stadion where AGF plays and the indoor arena where Århus GF plays handball, in Århus along with the current caretaker, AGF and two foreign operators.

This is clearly a provocation from the chairman of FCK since FCK would be making money if AGF became more succesful or is he just trying to diversify ;)

[pyrtas]

Maybe he knows something about AGF we don`t. Secret transfers, money floating from hand to hand and so.....

[CeresRoyal]

"FCK mother company are bidding on the right to run/operate Atletion (Aarhus Stadion)"

Well I'm not taking it that serious.... It's all about AGF and Aarhus threatening each other to save/make som $$... Actually it was Aarhus who asked FCK to make a bid, because AGF was saying that perhaps they wouldnt make a bid... However, with FCK making an offer, AGF is "forced" to make a serious bid as well...it's all politics my friend....

[Big Pete]

It's a dangerous game to play since FCK might make the lowest bid and Aarhus will be forced to pick them.

[CeresRoyal]

A little off-toppic perhaps, but as I have written in some of the other forums...the new Chief Executive of UEFA Lars-Christer Olsson have a plan to change the UEFA rules in a dramatic way...to give the smaller and less wealthy leagues/clubs a better chance to compeat with the big wealthy clubs in the Europa Cup...

His plan is simply, that for any club to be allowed to play Europa Cup, they need to have at least 6 players in the team, who have got all their football education in the club (and have played in the club as young talents), ... this ofcause benefit eg. the big Dutch, Danish, Polish and other Scandinavian clubs...and it's not so good for eg. the scottish "old Firm".... or any of the big wealthy clubs in Europe, who at the moment dont care about working with young talents, but just buy their way to sucess, getting big foreign stars... keep on the good work Lars-Christer Olsson !...

[pyrtas]

A little off-toppic perhaps, but as I have written in some of the other forums...the new Chief Executive of UEFA Lars-Christer Olsson have a plan to change the UEFA rules in a dramatic way...to give the smaller and less wealthy leagues/clubs a better chance to compeat with the big wealthy clubs in the Europa Cup...

His plan is simply, that for any club to be allowed to play Europa Cup, they need to have at least 6 players in the team, who have got all their football education in the club (and have played in the club as young talents), ... this ofcause benefit eg. the big Dutch, Danish, Polish and other Scandinavian clubs...and it's not so good for eg. the scottish "old Firm".... or any of the big wealthy clubs in Europe, who at the moment dont care about working with young talents, but just buy their way to sucess, getting big foreign stars... keep on the good work Lars-Christer Olsson !...

I don`t see it work. The bigger clubs will opose forcefully and if the change wuld be accepted by uefa there is bound to be an alternative european cup created by the clubs with fewer trainees.
There aren`t so many teams which play with their treinees. Even in the countries you mantioned. There is a big rotation between the teams in a given country.

Unless this cup would be another, separate one for such teams. But I believe it isn`t the point.

[CeresRoyal]

Well... pyrtas..since Lars-Christer Olsson is Chief Executive of UEFA he has the power to "make" the clubs accept the change...if they like it or not...

Most of the Danish clubs have at least 6 players in the team who have got all their football education in the club.... actually, both FCK and Brøndby got 6 players like that in the team....If we take a look at FCK they got exactly 6 out of their 26 players this season: defenders Bo Svensson and Christian Traoré, Midtfielders Martin Bergvold, Christian Lønstrup and Hjalte Bo Nørgaard and forward Jesper Bech....
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Viborg news:
The young Viborg forward Denni Patschinsky, 20yo (GER/DEN), has been chosen by the German U-20 national coach Uli Stielike, for the German U-20 national team, to play at the U-20 WC finals....Denni Patschinsky, who got his debut for Viborg last season in a match agains Lyngby, has got both a Danish and a German citizenship...Germany will play against South Korea, USA og Paraguay at the 1st stage of the U-20 WC finals...
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Superliga results
22/11 - 2003:

Herfølge - Brøndby 1-3
0-1: Martin Retov (24)
1-1: Anders Feldstedt (40)
1-2: Thomas Kahlenberg (55)
1-3: Martin Retov (80)
Martin Retov miss penalty (85)
Attendance: 5,518

[CeresRoyal]

Superliga results
23/11 - 2003:

FC København - AGF Aarhus 1-1
1-0: Alvaro Santos (6)
1-1: Leon Andreasen (81)
Attendance: 17,425

A fairly good match. Thou FCK had several big goal opportunities against a defencive playing AGF team, AGF got the 1-1 goal on a "doomsday"-shot from 31 meters by the U-21 defender Leon Andreasen... and AGF had their chances to win the match in the last 10 minutes..with that in mind I guess 1-1 was a fair result. "Man of the Match" named by Danish TV3 : Brian Steen Nielsen, AGF....

AaB Ålborg - OB Odense 3-1
1-0: Mads Bro Hansen (4)
2-0: David Nielsen (14)
2-1: Mwape Miti (42)
3-1: Mads Bro Hansen (65)
Attendance: 8,824

FC Nordsjælland - Esbjerg 2-0
1-0: Nichlas Hindsberg (10)
2-0: Tommy Olsen (23)
Attendance: 1,954

FC Midtjylland - Viborg 0-0
Attendance: 2,701

Frem - AB København 1-2
1-0: Lars Brøgger (14)
1-1: Klaus Lykke (32)
1-2: Kenny Thorup (71)
Attendance: 3,076


Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (18 games)

1.Brøndby................. 18..13 3 2..32-12... 42
2.Esbjerg.................. 18..12 3 3..32-16....39
3.FC København......... 18..9 6 3..26-15.....33
4.OB Odense............. 18..9 4 5..36-26......31
5.AaB Ålborg .............18..8 5 5..27-22......29
6.FC Midtjylland......... 18..7 3 8..29-25......24
7.AGF Aarhus.............18..7 2 9..27-37. ....23
8.Viborg....................18..5 6 7..30-27......21
9.FC Nordsjælland.......18..4 6 8..23-33......18
10.Herfølge................18..4 5 9..18-26......17
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11.Frem................... 18..4 2 12..18-34....14
12.AB København....... 18..3 1 14..13-38....10


Goalscorers Top 10 (18 games):

1 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 12
2 Mwape Miti,OB 11
2 Steffen Højer,OB 11
4 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 9
5 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 8
5 Frank Kristensen,FC Midtjylland 8
7 Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby 7
7 Christian Lundberg,AaB 7
7 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 7
7 Peter Graulund,AGF 7
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Danish Coach of the year 2002/2003 : Michael Laudrup (Brøndby)

[Big Pete]

The crisis for FCK get bigger even though they played a lot better than usual, but that can't be so hard.
Brøndby looks to be running away and when FCK can't kill off AGF when leading 1-0 and having around 3-4 100% chances then FCK are not exactly making it more difficult for them. However, respect to AGF for staying in the match and playing the whole 90 minutes. Nice shot by Leon too bad we could have hit it like that against Italy in the U21 qualification matches. Maybe Denmark should switch to Nike balls

[pyrtas]

This time I thought FCK had to win and... put some money on them. That was my last time I did. Even if they are to play Lechia I skip the bet.....

[Big Pete]

I'm actually glad that Michael Laudrup got Coach of the Year honors since I would have gone insane if Hans Backe had gotten them. However, maybe the more fair result would be Christian Andersen since leading a newly-promoted team with relatively few funds and big-name players to a 3rd place finish is a bit harder than leading Brøndby or FCK to 2nd and 1st place respectively

Come on pyrtas I've warned you :nono At least consult me before you do it again, because u know u will :USA_Blue U should have put some money on AB :woot

[pyrtas]

Come on pyrtas I've warned you :nono At least consult me before you do it again, because u know u will :USA_Blue U should have put some money on AB :woot


there is logic in it. So called Murphy law says that if you have to find something among many the last one you`ll check will be the right one. You can beat it by checking first the one you`d pick as a last one....
eeee...rrr it doesn`t work.

Anyway - no more Danish league in my bets.

[CeresRoyal]

Well...Pyrtas... If you want put your money on danish teams you just need a little statistic service... as you see FCK is a much better team in away matches and so is Brøndby,Viborg and AB ??!.... FCN is crap in away matches and so is OB Odense ... However, watch out for AGF !, they use to be crap in away matches, but now they do much better since they got their new Swedish coach Åkeby !!... This man is simply brilliant !!..no wonder they choose him as Swedish "coach of the year" the past two years in a row... beating the "England" coach Sven-Goran Eriksson... and this year beat the Swedish national coaches Tommy Söderberg & Lars Lagerbäck !....


SUPERLIGA 2003/2004.......... HOME........|..........AWAY........

1. Brøndby.............9..5 2 2..15-8 ..17....|..9..8 1 0..17-4 ...25
2. Esbjerg..............9..8 1 0..19-4 ..25....|..9..4 2 3..13-12...14
3. FC København...10..4 3 3..15-10..15...|..8..5 3 0..11-5 ....18
4. OB Odense.........9..7 1 1..19-8 ..22....|..9..2 3 4..17-18... 9
5. AaB Ålborg........10..4 2 4..10-11..14...|..8..4 3 1..17-11...15
6. FC Midtjylland......9..3 3 3..13-11..12...|..9..4 0 5..16-14...12
7. AGF Aarhus.........8..5 1 2..17-15..16...|.10..2 1 7..10-22... 7
8. Viborg..............10..2 4 2..13-10..10...|..8..3 2 5..17-17....11
9. FC Nordsjælland..10..4 3 3..14-15..15...|..8..0 3 5.. 9-18.... 3
10.Herfølge.............9..2 3 4..12-16.. 9....|..9..2 2 5.. 6-10.... 8
11.Frem.................9..2 0 7..12-20.. 6....|..9..2 2 5.. 6-14.... 8
12.AB København.....8..0 0 8.. 3-21.. 0....|.10. 3 1 6..10-17...10

So if I should make some bets on this weeks matches it would probably look like this:

29/11 Esbjerg - AaB 1
30/11 AB - FC Midtjylland 2
30/11 AGF - Herfølge 1
30/11 OB - Frem 1
30/11 Viborg - FC København 2 or perhaps x
30/11 Brøndby - FC Nordsjælland 1

[CeresRoyal]

Well...It's time for the UEFA Cup....how are the the Danish clubs chances ??...Lets see :

Europa Cup 2003/2004 Round 2 :

FC København - RCD Mallorca (ESP) 1-2
FC Schalke 04 (GER) - Brøndby IF 2-1

RCD Mallorca (ESP) - FC København 70/30
Well...in the home match it was a poor playing FCK without some of their best players ...now they are going to face a Mallorca B-team in the return match, personally I think FCK could still win this if they do their best.... thou I only give them a 30% chance..

Brøndby IF - FC Schalke 04 (GER) 50/50
Schalke with the one-man army Mike Hanke played well against a poor playing Brøndby team ... However, if Brøndby do their usual solid preformance then I'm sure they will beat Schalke ....the chances?....still 50/50 I would say...

[pyrtas]

IMO - both out. Despite average Schalke and Mallorca form.

[CeresRoyal]

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"IMO - both out. Despite average Schalke and Mallorca form."

Well...Pyrtas...prehaps if you put some money on Mallorca, then FCK will win ??... I choose to agree with Michael Laudrup on the 50/50 chance for Brøndby... 1-0 and Schalke is out...

[CeresRoyal]

The Esbjerg forward and U21 star Tommy Bechmann (at the top of the Superliga goalscorers list with 12 goals in 18 matches) has signed a four-year contract with the German Bundesliga club Bochum...(the contract will take effect from july 1. 2004 )...Bochum are rumoured to pay around £1m for the player although the exact figure has not been disclosed by either club.
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Europa Cup 2003/2004 Round 2 results :

Brøndby IF - FC Schalke 04(GER) 2 - 1 (Pen 3-1) first leg: 1-2
1-0: Andreas Jakobsson (pen) (15)
1-1: Victor Agali (55)
2-1: Mattias Jonson (70)
penalties:
3-1: Dan Johansen (121)
3-2: Sven Vermant (122)
Andreas Jakobsson,Brøndby missed pen (123)
Hamit Altintop,Schalke missed pen (124)
4-2: Thomas Kahlenberg (125)
Anibal Matellan,Schalke missed pen (126)
5-2: Peter Foldgast (127)
Tomasz Hajto,Schalke missed pen (128)
Brøndby wins 3-1 on penalties (129)
Attendance: 25,817

As expected...or should I say as usual.. Brøndby eliminate a German team in the UEFA Cup... and as expected it was a 50/50 fight to the end.... It was probably the fact that Brøndby win week after week in the Danish leage versus a Schalke team that lose in the German league, that made the difference in the end... Brøndby simply had more self-confidence in the final penalty shoot-out... Congrats to Brøndby...

RCD Mallorca (ESP) - FC København 1-1 (first leg: 2-1)
1-0: Alejandro Campano (68)
1-1: Martin Albrechtsen (86)
Attendance: ??

FCK should have scored atleast 2-3 goals in the first half of this match against a poor Mallorca B-team...As usual FCK having several 100% chances but not being able to score...However, It's not usual to get 12-15 big goal opportunities in an away match against a Spanish team...even thou this was a B-team...with that in mind it's simply not good enough for a team like FCK not to win a match like this, but again FCK was not able to finish off their opponent ...It just show the lack of luck and self-confidence that haunts this FCK team..... Perhaps it's time to get a new coach ??....

[pyrtas]

Congratulation to Brondby. german footy is in deep sheisse. Good I didn`t bet on FCK...

[CeresRoyal]

Transfers :
The 29 yo Helsingborg defender, Mikael Gustavsson (SWE 3 caps) have signed a 2-year contract with Viborg (on a free transfer from Helsingborg)

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TIPS-bladet(*ESM): Superliga Allstar Team of the month (November) :

Goalkeeper: Arek Onyszko (POL),Viborg

Defenders :
Ullrich Vinzents,FC Nordsjælland..Leon Andreasen,AGF..
Andreas Jacobsson (SWE),Brøndby..Allan K. Jepsen,AaB

Midtfielders :
Michael Silberbauer,AaB..Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby..
Martin Retov,Brøndby..Brian Steen Nielsen,AGF

Forwards:
Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg...Tommy Olsen,FC Nordsjælland
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*ESM = European Sports Magazines (The 10 most respected football magazines in Europe)
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TIPS-bladet have selected several U21 stars for this months Superliga allstars.. Defender Leon Andreasen,AGF..midtfielders Michael Silberbauer,AaB..Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby..Martin Retov,Brøndby and forward Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg....

Goalkeeper Arek Onyszko(POL),Viborg, was selected among several excellent keepers, thou as the only one who didnt allow the opponents to score any goals this month !...The Swedish international Andreas Jacobsson, (29 caps, 1 goal)Brøndby ...and the former Danish international, 35 yo Brian Steen Nielsen, (66 caps, 3 goals) AGF, in midtfield as the "sly old fox" on this allstar team...

[ticcan123]

You gonna reply to your pm Ceres? :P

[leviathan]

BTW - M. Laudrup was yesterday chosen as best danish coach 2002 - 2003. Pretty well done considering it was his first season. :)

The fact that I am a fan of his team and him only makes it better.
Nr. 1 in the league with a nice record of 14-3-2 after 19 rounds.
And just qualified to round 3 in the Uefa Cup after Beating Schalke in a very close and intense match. :D
Hopefully Brøndby will get a nice draw for the third round...like Barcelona or something...Need to raise some extra funds to sign a new forward.
Dont expect Brøndby to get any further in the Cup. So they might as well get a good draw.

BTW U R doing a great job Ceres. Hope someone else than me bother to read it though :)

[CeresRoyal]

leviathan..Another Dane in this forum ??... your welcome...

I know Michael Laudrup want Barcelona in round 3....Personally I would rather see Brøndby play against Mallorca, Rosenborg ...or perhaps Liverpool or Newcastle....
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Superliga results
29/11 - 2003:

Esbjerg - AaB Aalborg 4-2
1-0: Jakob Poulsen (24)
2-0: Jess Thorup (35)
2-1: Christian Lundberg (66)
2-2: Christian Lundberg (73)
3-2: Tommy Bechmann (74)
4-2: Jerry Lucena (86)
Attendance: 4,643

[CeresRoyal]

Superliga results
29/11 - 2003:

Esbjerg - AaB Aalborg 4-2
Attendance: 4,643

30/11 - 2003:

Brøndby - FC Nordsjælland 2-1
1-0: Per Nielsen (12)
1-1: Tommy Olsen (53)
Red card: Anders Alding (69)
2-1: Peter Foldgast (89)
Attendance: 19,649

Good match...Brøndby dominated the first half. However, looking tired in the 2nd half (because of the tough UEFA Cup match v. Schalke 04), giving FCN several chances to score, but a red card to FCN gave brøndby the advantage they needed to win this match....

AGF Aarhus - Herfølge 1-3
1-0: Thomas Thorninger (pen) (47)
1-1: Anders Jørgensen (68)
1-2: own goal by Morten Pedersen,AGF (83)
1-3: Anders Jørgensen (87)
Attendance: 11.121

Fairly good football from AGF and several goal opportunities.. However, by some strange misfortune AGF managed to lose the match anyway !!... but credit to herfølge thou, with a little luck they managed to use the opportunity to win this match in the last 7 minutes...

Viborg - FC København 0-2
0-1: Alvaro Santos (45)
0-2: Alvaro Santos (47)
Attendance: 4,980

FCK's 13th away match without defeat...one more and it's a club record !...the 23 yo forward Alvaro Santos (Brazil, U17 and U21 caps) finally showing his worth for the club...He was praised by some Spanish newspapers after the away match in Mallorca, even thou he did'nt score any goals in the UEFA Cup match...

AB København - FC Midtjylland 3-3
1-0: Simon Pedersen (1)
1-1: Thomas Frandsen (2)
1-2: Ulrik Lindkvist (23)
1-3: Frank Kristensen (34)
2-3: Michael Johansen (39)
3-3: Jesper Sørensen (49)
Attendance: 1,184

OB Odense - Frem 2-1
1-0: Søren Berg (40)
2-0: Steffen Højer (78)
2-1: Søren Larsen (80)
Attendance: 4,521


Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (19 games)

1.Brøndby................. 19..14 3 2..34-13.... 45
2.Esbjerg.................. 19..13 3 3..36-18.....42
3.FC København......... 19..10 6 3..28-15.....36
4.OB Odense............. 19..10 4 5..38-27.....34
5.AaB Ålborg .............19..8 5 6..29-26.......29
6.FC Midtjylland......... 19..7 4 8..32-28.......25
7.AGF Aarhus.............19..7 2 10..28-40. ...23
8.Viborg....................19..5 6 8..30-29.......21
9.Herfølge.................19..5 5 9..21-27.......20
10.FC Nordsjælland......19..4 6 9..24-35.......18
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11.Frem................... 19..4 2 13..19-36.....14
12.AB København....... 19..3 2 14..16-41.....11



Goalscorers Top 10 (19 games):

1 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 13
2 Steffen Højer,OB 12
3 Mwape Miti,OB 11
4 Christian Lundberg,AaB 9
4 Frank Kristensen,FC Midtjylland 9
4 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 9
7 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 8
8 Thomas Thorninger,AGF 7
8 Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby 7
8 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 7
8 Peter Graulund,AGF 7

[pyrtas]

it works!!!! I did not bet on FCK and they won!!!

BigPete - you owe me!!!

[CeresRoyal]

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Now you just have to bet on Brøndby for the rest of the season...then perhaps FCK will win the league ??..hehe

[Big Pete]

Thanks pyrtas. Could you not put some money on Hans Backe being the next coach to be fired?

[Big Pete]

Their are some rumours flying around, as there always is come this time of year, about possible new signings for FCK.
Anders Svensson from Southampton is the hottest name right now and it might be that Martin Albrechtsen will be a part of an exchange. Also rumour has it that Swedish Jørgen Petterson is supposed to be put on the first train going back to Skåne, part of Sweden, as soon as the winter break commences.

[Big Pete]

FC Midtjylland coach Troels Bech is fired due to disappointing results.

pyrtas did you place any bets on Hans Backe? I told you not to otherwise we'll never get rid of the man.

[pyrtas]

ok. I just kepp away from betting on whatever related to Danish league as long as the league doesn`t work as you wish.... hehe.

[CeresRoyal]

Superliga results
6/12 - 2003:

FC Nordsjælland - AGF Aarhus 1-3
1-0: Denni Conteh (29)
1-1: Peter Graulund (68)
1-2: Tomasz Mazurkiewicz (71)
1-3: Peter Graulund (75)
Attendance: 1,526

A crappy first half from both teams ... FCN having controle of the match the first 20 minutes of the 2nd half...However, AGF playing some good football and scoring 3 great goals in the last 25 minutes of the match...The 27 yo former Superliga topscorer (2001) Peter Graulund (on loan from Bochum), scoring two of the goals and increasing his chances to get the contract with AGF he wish for, so he do not have to return to Germany in a few weeks...

7/12 - 2003:

AaB Aalborg - Brøndby 1-1
0-1: Jonas Kamper (23)
1-1: Christian Lundberg (70)
Attendance: 10,315

AaB being the better team in this match creating most of the goal opportunities, especially in the first half, thou Brøndby being the team scoring a goal... Brøndby playing much better in the 2nd half. However, AaB getting a well deserved 1-1 result...Now AaB can look forward to the winter break , finally getting their new Swedish coach Erik Hamrén (former Örgryte)...


FC København - AB København 3-1
0-1: Jesper Falck (13)
1-1: Peter Christiansen (pen) (28)
2-1: Alvaro Santos (65)
3-1: Thomas Røll Larsen (87)
Attendance: 18,399

Once again some great football from FCK. and once again Alvaro santos being the "man of the match" .... AB ..well.. hopless behind, not having much hope to "survive" in the Danish Superliga...


Esbjerg - OB Odense 3-3
1-0: Jan Kristiansen (10)
2-0: Jakob Poulsen (32)
2-1: Kjetil Pedersen (Own goal) (44)
2-2: Steffen Højer (48)
3-2: Tommy Bechmann (49)
3-3: Søren Berg (74)
Attendance: 6,877

Herfølge - Viborg 0-1
0-1: Christian Keller (35)
Attendance: 1,243

FC Midtjylland - Frem 3-3
1-0: Mohamed Zidan (3)
2-0: Razak Pimpong (8)
2-1: Søren Larsen (33)
2-2: Ayeni Bosun (49)
3-2: Frank Kristensen (68)
3-3: Søren Larsen (80)
Attendance: 3,844



Danish Superliga 2003-2004 standings (20 games)

1.Brøndby................. 20..14 4 2..35-14.... 46
2.Esbjerg.................. 20..13 4 3..39-21.....43
3.FC København......... 20..11 6 3..31-16.....39
4.OB Odense............. 20..10 5 5..41-30.....35
5.AaB Ålborg .............20..8 6 6..30-27.......30
6.FC Midtjylland......... 20..7 5 8..35-31.......26
7.AGF Aarhus.............20..8 2 10..31-41. ...26
8.Viborg....................20..6 6 8..31-29.......24
9.Herfølge.................20..5 5 10..21-28......20
10.FC Nordsjælland......20..4 6 10..25-38......18
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11.Frem................... 20..4 3 13..22-39......15
12.AB København....... 20..3 2 15..17-44......11


Goalscorers Top 10 (20 games):

1 Tommy Bechmann,Esbjerg 14
2 Steffen Højer,OB 13
3 Mwape Miti,OB 11
4 Frank Kristensen,FC Midtjylland 10
4 Christian Lundberg,AaB 10
6 Peter Graulund,AGF 9
6 Søren Frederiksen,Viborg 9
8 Søren Larsen,Frem 8
8 Chris Hermansen,Herfølge 8
10 Mohamed Zidan,FC Midtjylland 7
10 Thomas Thorninger,AGF 7
10 Thomas Kahlenberg,Brøndby 7
10 Klaus Kærgård,Viborg 7
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Its time for a Winter break... Brøndby have almost looked invincible at the top of the league so far, and having success on the European stage beating Schalke in the UEFA Cup round 2.... Both Brøndby and Esbjerg seems to need a winter break to recooperate. The defending champions FC København thou, would probably rather play the last 13 league matches right now and skip the break, since they are just starting to play well...Especially the star-forward Alvaro Santos seems like he has just found his form at the end of the autumn round... Even thou FCK have had some trouble this autumn they are not hopeless behind, and since they are out of the European competition they can focus on the last 13 league matches ....

[pyrtas]

Bow to me FCK fans!!! I didn`t bet on FCK again and they got another 3 points!!!

Ceres - have you spoken to Ticcan about giving the Danish league (as above) round ups for the main site? What do you think about it?

[coobek]

Mazurkiewicz scored!!! Good man.:clap

AND

RAZAK PIMPONG :ph34r:

[pyrtas]

:woot :woot :woot Mazurkiewicz scored!!! Good man.:clap

AND

RAZAK PIMPONG :ph34r:


Razak Pimpong!!!!!!!!!!!
13 Millions!!!!!!!!!! :woot :woot :santa

[Big Pete]

:woot :woot :woot


Razak Pimpong!!!!!!!!!!!
13 Millions!!!!!!!!!! :woot :woot :santa

pyrtas for pølser and øl minister :bowing :bowing

Good goal by Mazurkiewicz who played a good game and I think he's going to be one of the players that is going to benefit a lot from Åkeby's system.

About FCK, they didn't play all that wonderful when looking at the kind of opponent they were facing. However, they finally managed to close the game, but still are using to many big chances to score goals.

[CeresRoyal]

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Yep... But it's not going to be this season... sorry


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Razak Pimpong!!!!!!!!!!!
13 Millions!!!!!!!!!!
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The new coach Åkeby is not afraid to use young players... actually he's known to be very good at transforming young talents into big stars... and Mazurkiewicz is doing well at the moment...

Razak Pimpong ??..13 Millions??... what is that all about ??....
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At the end of the autumn round.... The superliga coaches choose who they think are the best players so far this season.... top 5 :

1. Tommy Bechmann (DEN U21, Forward), Esbjerg (30 votes)
2. Andreas Jakobsson (SWE, Defender), Brøndby (27 votes)
3. Thomas Kahlenberg (DEN U21, Midtfielder), Brøndby (20 votes)
3. Mwape Miti (Zambia, forward), OB Odense (20 votes)
5. Peter Nielsen (DEN, Midtfielder), FC København (19 votes)
5. Morten Wieghorst (DEN, Midtfielder), Brøndby (19 votes)

The players have chosen Morten Wieghorst as their favorite Superliga player of 2003.... talent of the year (for the 2nd year in a row !) goes to the U21 midtfielder Thomas Kahlenberg , Brøndby..... The forward Rajko Lekic (Silkeborg, 18 goals in 17 matches so far this season) was chosen as the best player from the Danish Division 1.

[CeresRoyal]

The FC København forward Jörgen Pettersson (SWE 27 caps, 8 goals), has been given a free transfer by FCK...and signed a contract with the Swedish club Landskrona BoIS... The former Mönchengladbach and Kaiserslautern player was never the big sucess that FCK had hoped he would be... hopefully, FCK can find better use of his wages (£270,000 a year), getting a much better player...

FCK surely need to find some new players since one of their very best players, the team-engine, midtfielder Peter Nielsen has retired... and perhaps midtfielder Erik Mykland (NOR) will retire very soon... leaving a big gap in midtfield..

[pyrtas]

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Yep... But it's not going to be this season... sorry


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Razak Pimpong ??..13 Millions??... what is that all about ??....
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Actually the stuff tou give here is enough to put on the main site . So if you are busy we could just copy (edit a bit maybe) this stories to include on the mainsite. What do you think?


Razak - thats connected with Coobek`s and mine CM play. I bought Razak just because of his funny name (Pimpong).Played in reserve team and sold for no more than 1 million pounds to see his price tag in a year time - 13 MILLIONS!!!! Don`t know how. Anyway - that is the story.

[CeresRoyal]

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If you can use it on the main site then just feel free to do so .... You just copy & edit it as you please...


About Razak the Pimpong player...hehe... He's actually quite good in real life too...He played for the Ghana U20 national team when they came in 2nd at the U20 WC finals....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/1395728.stm

...and he scored some great goals for his club FC Midtjylland in the 2001/02 and 2002/03 UEFA Cup matches (4 goals in 10 matches... actually, I dont even think he played in all 10 of them) ....

[CeresRoyal]

Transfers/Transfer rumours:
The 27-yo AGF topscorer Peter Graulund (on loan from Bochum),did not get a contract with AGF, so he has returned to Germany ... AGF need 3 new players according to coach Soren Åkeby... and thou Graulund is topscorer for the club this season, Åkeby was not sure that he would be the type of player needed in a 4-3-3 system, with that in mind the Bochum player was to expensive to keep...

The rumour is that the players AGF want are : The big talent 20-yo defender Frank Hansen (DEN U21-team),Ølstykke... 34-yo midtfielder Stig Tøfting (DEN 41 caps, 2 goals) ,more than a rumour actually..on top of Åkeby's "wanted list".. I would say 90% chance he will sign a contract with AGF... two other players on Åkeby's wanted list are the former Barnsley player, 31-yo Peter Markstedt(SWE),Hammarby... and the 20-yo Canadian midfielder Atiba Hutchinson, Östers IF...

More superliga rumours are that the former top-scorer in the Swedish league, 25-yo Fredrik Berglund (SWE 3 caps) wants to leave Roda and sign a contract with Esbjerg...and that FCK is trying to sign the 21-yo Djurgården star-midtfielder Kim Källström (SWE 14 caps, 1 goal)...the price tag : £1½m for the Djurgården star player...

[pyrtas]

Tofting????!!! - what for? To attract media attention . Nothing more. Kind of Danish Gazza syndrom.

Kallstrom to FCK - wouldn`t it be one of the biggest moves recently in Danish league?

[Fins Prompte]

Ceres, vote for IBES.

VOTE FOR IBES => http://www.soccer24-7.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=23867&s=

Here is a nice Laudrup goal for you. Do they still sell his jersey or his brothers in Denmark?

http://www.mahero21.com/LaudrupBrazil.mpeg

[CeresRoyal]

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Tofting????!!! - what for? To attract media attention . Nothing more. Kind of Danish Gazza syndrom.

Kallstrom to FCK - wouldn`t it be one of the biggest moves recently in Danish league?
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Stig Tøfting is actually still quite good... The only reson he's not in the Danish national team is because he quit after the WC 2002 finals... Then he kind of took a "break" from football, signing a ½ year contract with a club in china giving him a shitload of $$ ... now he's wanted by AGF ...and FCK it seems !? ... However, he's from Aarhus (former AGF player) and he wants to play for his old club...

If FCK gets Kallstrom...it will be the biggest scoop in years... according to all the Swedish fans I have asked , he's a bigger name in Sweden than Zlatan Ibrahimovic ....


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Thanks.... about the jersey...I dont know ...

[CeresRoyal]

Well...no Kim Källström to FCK... It's seems he has signed a contract with the French club Rennes who payed £1½m for the Djurgården star player...

.... and I'm glad to say no AGF contract to 31 Year-old Peter Markstedt(SWE), who has signed a contract with the Swedish club Västerås SK.

AB København ..: Have given a free transfer to Mustafa Gunden,28yo (TYR ), former Genclerbirligi player...

[Vidi Vici]

Well...no Kim Källström to FCK... It's seems he has signed a contract with the French club Rennes who payed £1½m for the Djurgården star player...


Are u absolutly sure about this? I thought he was never going to be sold. There has been rumours of him linked to all sort of clubs(Rosenborg too :)) for 1,5 year now.

[CeresRoyal]

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Yes I'm 99% sure... and now it's on the Rennes homepage :

http://www.rennes.maville.com/actu/Detail.asp?idDOC=110527&idCLA=46

If you dont speak French, this is roughly what it says:

The negotiations between the Stade de Rennes and the Swede Kim Källström continue actively. They are about to succeed, if it is not already done. After having discussed with the club Djurgarden IF, the Breton leaders sought to convince the player who, accompanied by his agent Roger Ljung and his lawyer, was present yesterday in Rennes in order to visit the club. A contract of 3½ years awaits.....

[Vidi Vici]

I do speak French. I'm half French actually. ;)

And I belive u. Its been in most of the swedish newspapers, but I was abit surprised when I heard it. I didn't think he'd go to Rennes as there's been way bigger clubs interested in him.

[Celticrugby]

Question for you Danes. Does an American named Wade Barrett still play in the Danish league? I think its for AB or something like that?

[Vidi Vici]

I'm not a dane but I think he plays for CeresRoyal's team: AGF

[Celticrugby]

I'm not a dane but I think he plays for CeresRoyal's team: AGF
Thanks! I remember watching him play on the San Jose Earthquakes, and I just wanted to know how he was doing now in his new league. He was just starting to become a huge prospect when he left for Denmark.

[CeresRoyal]

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Yes he plays for AGF Aarhus (as a defender)... I think he was a midtfielder in San Jose ??.... Thou defence has been a weak spot in this AGF team (as you can see in the Superliga standings) ... he's doing better...I would say he has become an average defender in the Danish league and he's a first-team regular at the moment...He was tested in midtfield, but that didnt go to well....

Ther are two American players in the Danish league at the moment : 26 year-old Wade Barrett, AGF... and the 28 year-old goalkeeper Matthew Michael Jordan, OB Odense (former Dallas Burns).....
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Foreigners In the Danish league this season , so far (55):
Sweden : 10
Norway : 4
Poland : 4
Brazil : 3
South Africa : 3
Ghana : 3
England: 3
United States : 2
Australia : 2
Nigeria : 2
Zambia : 2
(Faroe Islands : 2)
Holland : 1
Germany :1
France : 1
Turkey : 1
Egypt : 1
(Morocco : 1)
Kenya : 1
Burkino Faso: 1
Slovakia : 1
Latvia : 1
Estonia : 1
Lithuania : 1
Macedonia : 1
Hungary : 1
Croatia : 1

[Celticrugby]

Thanks for the update! I didn't know Jordan was playing over there as well.

[Big Pete]

I don't really understand why 2 young highly-rated Swedish players, Alexander Farnerud and Kim Källström, are heading to average/mediocre French sides like Strasbourg and Rennes. Of course the wages are better, but still the clubs have no exposure on the European scene and they'll be playing for mid-table positions.

[CeresRoyal]

I quite agree... and I dont even think they get that much more $$ ...

Transfer news:
AGF Aarhus have signed the former Danish international 34 year-old Stig Tøfting (who quit the national team after the WC 2002 finals) on a 1½ year contract.... thou the roumor says that he got an offer from FCK that would have given him twice the wage he chose to return (for the 3rd time!) to his former club AGF... he has always loved the club and the AGF fans... and he did play for AGF in a friendly against the Danish National Team only 3 month ago...

[The2ndMouse]

Ceres and friends,

What do you think are the chances of Panathinaikos players Henriksen and Mikaelsen to follow the Danish NT to portugal?

Henriksen has been a real gem in the PAO defence all these years (except after he returned very tired from the last World Cup). Immenselly experienced also. Mikaelsen in not as good IMO but still a reliable second solution for any team.

What signals do you get for the choices of your NT manager up to now, If any?

Cheers...

[pyrtas]

uefa.com


Former Danish international Stig Tøfting has agreed to rejoin AGF Århus, the club where he began his career.

Free transfer
The 34-year-old midfield player, whose contract will start on 1 February 2004 and run until summer 2005, has signed for the Superligaen side on a free transfer from Chinese outfit Tianjin TEDA, where he has played for the past four months. Tøfting previously spent four months in prison after an incident in a Copenhagen restaurant.

[CeresRoyal]

Henriksen and Mikaelsen to follow the Danish NT to portugal? :
To be quite honest.... Rene Henriksen looks like he's getting slower with age, and playing for the NT he's consistently hung out to dry. Like the Danish EMS Football Magazine (TIPS-Bladet) most people in Denmark see him and Ebbe Sand as the weak spot in the NT. However, National coach Morten Olsen got an almost nostalgic partiality for old, once-great players. Sand was the star forward for his club Schalke and the NT up untill about two years ago. In more than one year he has only scored 1 goal for the NT (12/10-2002 against Luxembourg)..+ 2 goals in a friendly against my club AGF .... Knowing Morten Olsen quite well, I'm 110% sure both Henriksen, Sand and Mikaelsen will follow the Danish NT to Portugal...unless ofcause they get injured...

Stig Tøfting and the tragedy's :
Most Danes sympathize with Stig Tøfting because of the tragedy's he has suffered..When he was 13 yo, Tøfting found his parents dead at home after an apparent murder-suicide...thou hit by this personal tragedy he struggled on to be one of the best Danish midfielders...Then he suffered another personal tragedy after his 22 day-old son died of meningitis...About him spending four months in prison after an incident (head-butting) with a pair of restaurant workers at a Copenhagen restaurant during a night out with NT-mates...first of all ...the two people involved accepted Stig's apology and dropped the charges...so no case...Then why was he convicted ??..

Well..In Denmark the police can make a case without people making charges if they find that they have the evidence to do so....However, that never happen unless it's a famous person, then they make an example by taking them to court...if he had not been a famous star player...he would never have gone to prison...and he would not even have got a fine since charges were dropped by the other two people...He got four month in prison...Not all that fair I think, since justice should be blind...but well..now he's a free man...By the way I'm sure Stig Tøfting would follow the Danish NT to Portugal if he wanted to play for the NT...Stig is still one of the very best Danish midtfielders...

About Stig Tøfting signing with AGF Aarhus:
He Says -"I'm proud to wear the AGF jersey once again. Ther's no other club I would rather play for ..I was always sure, that it was to be AGF. You could say I'm finaly back home"..He rejects that he was ever close to signing with FC København...He missed his family and wanted to return to his house in Hørning (Aarhus).."I really missed them (his wife and two children). Now I can focus 100% on playing football for AGF the next 1½ years, and at the same time take good care of my kids. This is perfect for me" Tøfting says.....

[The2ndMouse]

Thanks for the info man...

[CeresRoyal]

Transfers:
The 22 year-old AaB Ålborg player and Danish U21 star midtfielder Michael Silberbauer has signed a 4½ year contract (taking effect from January 1. 2004 ) with FC København... ...FCK are rumoured to pay around £800,000 for the player although the exact figure has not been disclosed by either club.

[pyrtas]

Transfers:
The 22 year-old AaB Ålborg player and Danish U21 star midtfielder Michael Silberbauer has signed a 4½ year contract (taking effect from January 1. 2004 ) with FC København... ...FCK are rumoured to pay around £800,000 for the player although the exact figure has not been disclosed by either club.

Is he really worth the assumed money or would it be wiser from FCK to pay more and get Kallstrom.

[Big Pete]

That would make more sense in my mind too, but maybe they can't compete with regards to the wages. Still however playing in Rennes fighting relegation can't be too cool either. Silberbauer is a good player, but was also a bit overpriced previously. Danish newspaper BT are estimating around 7 million DKK

[CeresRoyal]

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That would make more sense in my mind too, but maybe they can't compete with regards to the wages. Still however playing in Rennes fighting relegation can't be too cool either. Silberbauer is a good player, but was also a bit overpriced previously. Danish newspaper BT are estimating around 7 million DKK
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I would surely choose Källström (SWE 14 caps, 1 goal) over Silberbauer (DEN 1 cap) ...even with the £1½m price tag ...thou Silberbauer in my wiew was AaB's best player...Last year AaB said that they would never sell him for less than DKK 20 million and I would say that he's surely worth the DKK 9 million ( AaB was expecting a DKK 9m deficit this season, now they say it will be a nice 0... so I still estimate that they got the £800,000 for Silberbauer).....

I'm sure FCK hoped to get both Källström and Stig (the lawn mower) Tøfting... since the rumour is that Erik Mykland will retire soon... (It seems that he is selling his house in Copenhagen, so I guess he's on his way home to Norway).... I have seen that some FCK fans are glad FCK didnt get "the lawn mower" Tøfting because they think he may be "over the hill".... However I dont agree...He played in a friendly for AGF only 3 month ago against the Danish National team...and was surely the best AGF player in that match... I would even say he was the "man of the match"...

[CeresRoyal]

Transfers/rumours:
The Viborg forward Sasho Petrovski (Australia) has been given a free transfer and is on his way back to Australia... He played 58 matches and scored 17 goals for Viborg...

The rumour is that the German club Bochum are on the verge to give the forward Peter Graulund (this seasons AGF top scorer) a free transfer...It seems AGF already have made an agreement with Peter Graulund, to pay him £140,000 a year in wages, if they can sign him on a free transfer.

[Big Pete]

About, Stig Tøfting, I think the main reason for many FCK fans opposing him as a FCK player is that at 34 he is not exactly a replacement, for 35 year old Peter Nielsen, with much perspective. FCK would have to replace him again in a year or two tops. I'm sure Mykland is leaving this summer since his contract runs out and he has problems with his achilles and that doesn't exactly make you want to play more.

[CeresRoyal]

Well ...you never know.. at that age players tend to get injured alot..However, Tøfting is a tough guy just like 35 year-old Brian Steen Nielsen who is playing one of his best seasons in many years...or like the midfielder Jan Heintze (Born 17/8-63) who played his last International for Denmark at the WC 2002 finals (6/6-02 against Senegal) almost 39 year-old....Tøfting got an option in his contract with AGF, that if he playes 45 matches, his contract is automaticly extended one more year... so he do expect to play for AGF 2½ years (and not only the 1½ years), if he dosnt get injured alot...

[CeresRoyal]

Transfers/rumours:
The 22 year-old star forward Afonso Alves (Brazil), owned by Atletico Mineiro (but on loan to the Swedish League club Örgryte) is wanted by several clubs....Both Schalke and Bordeaux have shown great interest, but not yet made an offer. However, Örgryte, Malmö FF, Rosenborg ?, AaB Ålborg, Brøndby and FC København are all trying to sign Afonso... The most likely to get him are Brøndby or FCK (He was seen in Copenhagen yesterday)....

Thou Afonso Alves is an Atletico-player, Örgryte gets 25% of the transfer if he's sold before April 1. 2004 (according to their loan agreement) ... However, his club Atletico Mineiro are in deep financial trouble and need to sell him right away...They hope to get around £800,000 for the star forward... Afonso Alves have scored 23 goals in 39 games for Örgryte in the Swedish league ...

Both Örgryte and AIK Stockholm are eager to sign Örgryte's other Atletico Mineiro forward, 24 year-old Paulinho Guara (Brazil), who has scored 14 goals in 25 matches for Örgryte in the Swedish league this season...

[CeresRoyal]

The forward Sasho Petrovski (AUS) who have had a hard time getting on the first team in Viborg, got a free transfer this week, thursday he was back in Australia, Saturday he signed with the Australian NSL club Parramatta Power and scored his first goal for his new club against Adelaide United....Parramatta Power are on the 2nd spot in the NSL-League behind South Melbourne.

Read more about Petrovski and Australian soccer at:
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,8219936-23215,00.html

[CeresRoyal]

The 28 goalkeepers in the Danish Superliga + Division 1. have chosen the Danish Goalkeeper of the year 2003 :

1. Karim Zaza (DEN/Morocco), Brøndby.......... 57 points
2. Stephan Andersen (DEN), AB København.... 46 points
3. Arek Onyszko (POL), Viborg..................... 29 points

Congrats to Karim Zaza for winning the title 3 years in a row....

Goalkeeper of the year since 1984 :
2003 : Karim Zaza (DEN/Morocco), Brøndby
2002 : Karim Zaza (DEN/Morocco), OB Odense
2001 : Karim Zaza (DEN/Morocco), OB Odense
2000 : Arek Onyszko (POL), Viborg

1999 : Peter Kjær, Silkeborg
1998 : Jimmy Nielsen, AaB
1997 : Erik Boye, Vejle
1996 : Jørgen Nielsen, Hvidovre
1995 : Lars Windfeld, AGF Aarhus
1994 : Lars Høgh, OB Odense
1993 : Lars Høgh, OB Odense
1992 : Lars Høgh, OB Odense
1991 : Kim brodersen, Lyngby
1990 : Peter Schmeichel, Brøndby

1989 : Lars Høgh, OB Odense
1988 : Peter Schmeichel, Brøndby
1987 : Peter Schmeichel, Brøndby
1986 : Lars Høgh, OB Odense
1985 : Troels Rasmussen, AGF Aarhus
1984 : Ole Quist, KB

[CeresRoyal]

Danish Player of the year 2003 (named by the players from the Danish Superliga, Division 1. and Division 2.) :

Morten Wieghorst, Brøndby

Congrats to the 32 year-old Brøndby player and Danish International midfielder ...

Morten Wieghorst received the award dressed in Kilt to salute his Scottish friends. When Wieghorst played for Celtic he was rushed to hospital, struck down by the debilitating and life-threatening brain illness Guilainn-Barre Syndrome (This syndrome is a illness which attacks the nerve ends and consists of paralysis of many of the body's muscles.)...

However, receiving literally hundreds of cards, letters and e-mails as well as flowers from his fans and receiving full support from Celtic Football Club, he struggled out of intensive care, and against all odds he recovered from the illness, to play few League Cup games towards the end of his last season at Celtic...He decided not to accept the club's offer of a year's extension to his contract and Michael Laudrup (Brøndby) took a chance signing him on a free transfer...and since then he has proven to be Brøndby's most influential player...and proven his worth in the national team....

The other players nominated for the Danish Player of the year 2003 award :
Thomas Gravesen (Everton), Jesper Grønkjær (Chelsea), Peter Nielsen (FC København) and Thomas Kahlenberg (Brøndby).

[TedNolan]

why not rommedhal?

[CeresRoyal]

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Well....most Danes think Dennis Rommedahl is overrated....Like Peter Løvenkrands he's not even sure to be playing for the Danish NT at the moment..

Morten Wieghorst ( Brøndby), Thomas Gravesen (Everton) and Jesper Grønkjær (Chelsea) are all key-players in the NT...Thomas Kahlenberg (Brøndby) is a big U21 star.... you could ask....why not Jon Dahl Tomasson (Milan) or Martin Jørgensen (Udinese) ??.... both are doing quite well in Serie A, at the moment ...

Jon Dahl Tomasson (Milan) got the "Danish Player of the year" award 2002..(being 3rd at the WC-02 finals topscorers list with 4 goals in 4 games)..but didnt do that well 6-7 month ago...Martin Jørgensen (Udinese) was injured alot, but is doing quite well playing for the Danish NT and with Udinese in the Italian League...

[pyrtas]

I don`t know what is going on but heard somewhere that Bronby are likely to give the uefa cup game to Barcelona without even playing it.
Apparently it has something to do with players strike or something.
Ceres - is there any truth in it?

[Knoert]

I don`t know what is going on but heard somewhere that Bronby are likely to give the uefa cup game to Barcelona without even playing it.
Apparently it has something to do with players strike or something.
Ceres - is there any truth in it?

:o , this can't be true, please Ceres, tell us this is nonsense, they make a good chance agaisnt Barça I think.

[CeresRoyal]

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I don`t know what is going on but heard somewhere that Bronby are likely to give the uefa cup game to Barcelona without even playing it.
Apparently it has something to do with players strike or something.
Ceres - is there any truth in it?
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, this can't be true, please Ceres, tell us this is nonsense, they make a good chance agaisnt Barça I think.

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Well...It's true.... The Player's Union demand better insurance for all the Superliga players, free transfers (when the contract expires) for all talents younger than 23...and a few other things...If they dont get what they want, they go on strike...

The Superliga clubs have refused all the demands, and they did try to lock-out the players just before the Winter break...The laubor court postponed the case to January 18. If the League clubs "win" the case (the lock-out is declared legal), then the players will go on strike/be lock-outed from January 21.... However, if the players "win" a part of the dispute, the case/conflict will be postponed untill March 1....

In Denmark the Union's are strong, so I'm sure ther will be a conflict if the League clubs dont give in to most of the demands... If the lock-out starts January 21, then Brøndby are in deep sheisse...ofcause they will lose all the match profit's when they have to cancel the Barcelona match....then they will probably be disqualified and fined by UEFA (£25,000)....and in "worse case scenario" even be disqualified for the next season's Champions League/UEFA cup matches....Thou I dont think that will happen in this case ... Denmark usually dont make this/any kind of trouble and are a respected member of UEFA...
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Transfers/rumours:
It seems that the goalkeeper Arek Onyszko (POL), is on his way to OB Odense... according to rumours he is at the top of OB Odense's "wanted list"

[leviathan]

The Barcelona match will be played like scheduled. I am almost 100% sure.

Or else...be afraid :)

[Killah]

do danes enjoy bacon :D ?

[Dandy]

Any of you have information on the 17-year old Danish player that Hertha just signed?

[pyrtas]

do danes enjoy bacon :D ?

polser I`d say. and Ol

[Ceres]

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At first i didnt know what this was all about, since ther have been absolutly nothing in the Danish media about this..(not even on the Brøndby homepage !).. But seeing that this is about the Danish talent Dennis Cagara I can only repeat what I have written in the German Football forum :

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Well..."Danish teenage sensation" is perhaps stretching the truth a bit to far...ok...he's only 18...(almost 19, since his born march 14 - 1985) and have played 2 matches for the Danish Under-21 squad, he played 7 superliga matches in the season 2002/03... I wouldnt name him among the 15 most talented young players (18-22 year-olds) in the Danish League...

The Danish ESM* Football Magazine TIPS-Bladet just named the 100 best players in the Danish league so far this season and he's not among them either...so thou he a talented player with a big potential for the future, I dont see how he could be some kind of a "savior" for Hertha Berlin ....


ESM* = European Sports Magazines (The 10 most respected sportsmagazines in Europe)
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To Killah and Pyrtas....do danes enjoy bacon ? + pølser I`d say.. and Øl.....

Yep...sure we do...As you se I answer all ontopic questions...hehe

[pyrtas]

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At first i didnt know what this was all about, since ther have been absolutly nothing in the Danish media about this..(not even on the Brøndby homepage !).. But seeing that this is about the Danish talent Dennis Cagara I can only repeat what I have written in the German Football forum :

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Well..."Danish teenage sensation" is perhaps stretching the truth a bit to far...ok...he's only 18...(almost 19, since his born march 14 - 1985) and have played 2 matches for the Danish Under-21 squad, he played 7 superliga matches in the season 2002/03... I wouldnt name him among the 15 most talented young players (18-22 year-olds) in the Danish League...

The Danish ESM* Football Magazine TIPS-Bladet just named the 100 best players in the Danish league so far this season and he's not among them either...so thou he a talented player with a big potential for the future, I dont see how he could be some kind of a "savior" for Hertha Berlin ....


ESM* = European Sports Magazines (The 10 most respected sportsmagazines in Europe)
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To Killah and Pyrtas....do danes enjoy bacon ? + pølser I`d say.. and Øl.....

Yep...sure we do...As you se I answer all ontopic questions...hehe

Sure you do!!!
Is Ceres the same guy as CeresRoyal?? Why changed that?

[coobek]

Yeah! Waht is it with this double act? Ceres or CeresRoyale

[Ceres]

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I just shortend my nic from CeresRoyal to Ceres.... for the sake of convenience... so their will be no double act...

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Transfers/rumours:
Selling the Danish U21 star midtfielder Michael Silberbauer to FCK has made the AaB Ålborg supporters furious... AaB has promised the new coach Erik Hamrén, that AaB will get 2-3 new players... thou they wont reveal any names, the former AGF and Brøndby midfielder Mads Jørgensen, Ancona (brother to the danish international Martin Jørgensen), is on the AaB wanted list...according to the Swedish newspaper Expressen, so is the 23 year-old Swedish IFK Göteborg midfielder Martin Ericsson.... However, at lot of clubs are trying to sign "success-Martin"... to name a few : Grasshoppers... and Djurgården, who thinks he got the quality to be the replacement for Kim Källström....

The in Denmark totaly unknown 24 year-old Danish striker Ole Budtz (Cercle Brugge)...is on his way to either Frem or AB københavn....Ole Budtz was topscorer in the Belgium Division 2. in his first season for Cercle Brugge...and has scored 56 goals for the club the past 3 seasons....However he's not happy with the club promising him a pay-rise he newer got...

FC Midtjylland got their new head coach Erik Rasmussen yesterday . (former division 2 coach for Næstved) ...

[pyrtas]

The in Denmark totaly unknown 24 year-old Danish striker Ole Budtz (Cercle Brugge)...is on his way to either Frem or AB københavn....Ole Budtz was topscorer in the Belgium Division 2. in his first season for Cercle Brugge...and has scored 56 goals for the club the past 3 seasons

Scored so many goals and tottally unknown. Strange isn`t it?
On the other hand - who was the top scorer of 2nd Danish league?

[Ceres]

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On the other hand - who was the top scorer of 2nd Danish league?
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Well...he's unknown in Denmark because Cercle Brugge got him from "Danmarksserien" (he was topscorer in Danmarksserien)....that would be like the English Conference Leage...and since ther's a shitload of Danish players in foreign leagues, it is easy for some of them to be totally unknown in Denmark....

I dont remember who was the top scorer in the Danish Division 1 last season...but I know that it's the forward Rajko Lekic (Silkeborg, 18 goals in 17 matches so far this season) he was chosen as the best player from the Danish Division 1. this season and he's at the top of the AGF wanted list....

[Ceres]

Transfers/rumours:
Viborg have signed the 22 year-old Algerian midfielder Mehdi Radouane Guerrouad on a free transfer from the French league club Lille.... Thou Mehdi is an Algerian international (U-23, 7 caps), he has lived all his life in France... Mehdi has signed a 1 year deal with Viborg........

According to the Danish newspaper BT, Panathinaikos are trying to sign the Danish international midfielder Thomas Røll Larsen (FC København)....

The FC Midtjylland and Egyptian star forward Mohamed Zidan, may be on his way to a big ? European club according to several Egyptian and Danish newspapers...Read more about Zidan and Egyptian football in general at:


http://egyptianplayers.com/

[Ceres]

B.T. Cup 2004 - Indoor Championship

Group A.

AC Horsens (Div. 1)...3..3-0-0..5-1..9
Brøndby..................3..1-1-1..4-5..4
AaB Ålborg..............3..1-0-2..3-3..3
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Frem......................3..0-1-2..3-6..1

Brøndby-AC Horsens (Div. 1) 1-3
Frem-AaB 1-3
AaB-Brøndby 0-1
AC Horsens-Frem 1-0
AaB-AC Horsens 0-1
Brøndby-Frem 2-2


Group B.

FC Midtjylland.......3..2-1-0..4-2..7
Viborg.................3..1-2-0..4-3..5
Herfølge...............3..1-1-1..3-3..4
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AB København.......3..0-0-3..1-4..0

AB-FC Midtjylland 0-1
Viborg-Herfølge 1-1
Herfølge-AB 1-0
FC Midtjylland-Viborg 1-1
Herfølge-FC Midtjylland 1-2
Viborg-AB 2-1

Group C.

OB Odense..........3..3-0-0..6-1..9
FC Nordsjælland....3..0-2-1..2-3..2
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FC København......3..0-2-1..1-2..2
Esbjerg...............3..0-2-1..2-5..2

FC København-Esbjerg 0-0
FC Nordsjælland-OB 0-1
OB-FC København 1-0
Esbjerg-FC Nordsjælland 1-1
OB-Esbjerg 4-1
FC Nordsjælland-FC København 1-1

QF's:
FC Midtjylland-Brøndby 1-2
Horsens-AaB 2-3
OB-Herfølge 0-1
Viborg-FC Nordsjælland 0-0 (3-2 Pen.)

SF's:
Brøndby-Herfølge 2-1
AaB-Viborg 2-0

3rd:
Herfølge-Viborg 1-0

Final:
AaB-Brøndby 1-0
1-0: David Rasmussen
Attendance: 4,500

Since the Swedish AGF coach has decided only to make his players do physical training, not getting near a ball for the next month !, the Division 1 club AC Horsens was invited to participate in this League Indoor-tournament...Doing very well I may add....

The two star players of the Group games, showing outstanding technique and dribbling skills, Mohamed Zidan (FC Midtjylland), scoring 5 goals in this tournament and to much surprise Simon Elbæk Jensen (AC Horsens)...Making the Division 1 team AC Horsens and FC Midtjylland + OB Odense the favorite teams to reach the finals, showing some first class football.....

However, all the favorites got eliminated in the QF's, and in the end AaB Ålborg won the Tournament beating the home team Brøndby + they (AaB) won the BT Cheerleaders Cup (4th time in a row !) with GF Sisters (AGF) on the 2nd spot....

Goalkeeper Karim Zaza (Brøndby) was named as "player of the tournament", showing some first class goalkeeping....Too bad that he can't play for the Danish NT since he once played a match for Morocco... Now he has given up on persuing this aim...and finally accepted to play for the Morocco NT in the future....

[Ceres]

Transfers/rumours:

Is Henrik Larsson (Celtic) on his way to Brøndby ??

According to the Swedish newspaper EXPRESSEN, Henrik Larsson (Celtic) deny any rumours that he has signed a contract with any club...Larsson says..-"Ther is no truth to this....I was at a friends house, looking at football on Skysport when I saw that Sir Bobby had said, that I had already signed with another club, I was totally put out. I was thinking, What is this ??...Neither me or my Agent (Rob Jansen) have in any case talked with Newcastle. It's strange that some one else than me should know more about my own future."

He also deny that FC Barcelona should be in the race. He says -" We have not had any negotiations with any club. I dont know where I'm going to play next season. That's the truth of the day."....According to onside.dk and EXPRESSEN it's still a posibility that Henrik Larsson is on his way to the Danish Superliga club Brøndby.... "The big advantage by going to Denmark (Copenhagen) is ofcause, that I only have to pay 25% in taxes. At the same time I can commute back and forth to Helsingborg." says Henrik Larsson to EXPRESSEN.

[pyrtas]

I don`t believe that. Larsson will not be respected if not proven his abilities in a better league.
England sounds the best for him and given that he`d earn there the most he will probabably end up in the Premiership.
Anyway - woukld be sensation if he joined Brondby. How much can they afford to pay him?

[Ceres]

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I don`t believe that. Larsson will not be respected if not proven his abilities in a better league.
England sounds the best for him and given that he`d earn there the most he will probabably end up in the Premiership.
Anyway - woukld be sensation if he joined Brondby. How much can they afford to pay him?
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Looking at his latest remarks...he's either going to England or Denmark.... as you say he's tempted by the Premiership... on the other hand, a move to the Premiership at his age, could end up as a big mistake... and he will soon be going home to Sweden anyway... so a year or two in the Danish league with Brøndby could be a good idea... and I think he's a personal friend of Morten Wieghorst (Brøndby)...

How much can they afford to pay him?... Thats hard to say... but my guess is that they would not offer him more than £400,000 net a year (the net sum after paying taxes) ........

[pyrtas]

400k is about what Niedzielan gets in NEC and they are on totally different shelves of stardome.
Unreal move to Brondby though. I was thinking they could tempt him financially...

[Ceres]

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400k is about what Niedzielan gets in NEC and they are on totally different shelves of stardome.
Unreal move to Brondby though. I was thinking they could tempt him financially...
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Is that £400k net (the net sum after paying taxes) ??.... I've seen in a Danish newspaper that FC København may soon try to find some bigger stars if they dont qualify for the Champions League... then they are ready to go as high as £680k net a year (the net sum after paying taxes)....thou I dont think Brøndby are able to pay that much...

well...Larsson is a Scandinavian, I'm sure he thinks more about his family than how much $$ he can get... so i think he will let his family decide if he shall move to the Premiership... or return to Sweden, with him playing in Denmark...