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CeresRoyal
Aug 28 2003, 10:53 PM
UEFA CUP

1st Qualifying Round

AIK Stockholm Swe -Fylkir Reykjavik Isl 1-0 0-0

Malmö FF Swe -Portadown Nir 4-0 2-0

Vllaznia Shkodër Alb -Dundee FC Sco 0-2 0-4

Levadia Maardu Est- Varteks Varazdin Cro 1-3 2-3

Brøndby IF Den- Dinamo Minsk Bls 3-0 2-0

OB Odense Den- Tallina VMK Est 1-1 3-0

Esbjerg fB Den -Santa Coloma And 5-0 4-1

FC Nordsjælland Den -Shirak Gyumri Arm 4-0 2-0

Zeljeznicar Sarajevo Bos- Anorthosis Famagusta Cyp 1-0 3-1

Hapoel Tel-Aviv Isr- Banants Yerevan Arm 1-1 2-1

Dinamo Bucuresti Rom -Metalurgs Liepaja Lat 5-2 1-1

FC Kärnten Aut -Grindavik Isl 2-1 1-1

Viktoria Zizkov Cze -Zhenis Astana Kaz 3-0 3-1

FK Sarajevo Bos- Sartid Smederevo Srb 1-1 0-3

APOEL Nicosia Cyp- Derry City Irl 2-1 3-0

FC Lovech Bul -Zimbru Chisinau Mol 0-0 0-2

Neman Grodno Bls -Steaua Bucuresti Rom 1-1 0-0

Etzella Ettelbrück Lux- Kamen Ingrad Cro 1-2 0-7

Manchester City Eng- Llansantffraid Wal 5-0 2-0

Molde FK Nor- KI Klaksvik Far 2-0 4-0

NSI Runavik Far -Lyn Oslo Nor 1-3 0-6

FK Ventspils Lat -Wisla Plock Pol 1-1 2-2

Groclin Grodzisk Pol -Atlantas Klaipeda Lit 2-0 4-1

Cementarnica Skopje Mac -GKS Katowice Pol 0-0 1-1

Valletta FC Mlt -Xamax Neuchâtel Sui 0-2 0-2

MyPa-47 Fin -Young Boys Sui 3-2 2-2

Haka Valkeakoski Fin -Hajduk Split Cro 2-1 0-1

FC Vaduz Lie -Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk Ukr 0-1 0-1

Coleraine Nir -União de Leiria Por 2-1 0-5

Dinamo Tirana Alb- KSC Lokeren Bel 0-4 1-3

Cwmbran Town Wal- Maccabi Haifa Isr 0-3 0-3

Publikum Celje Slo- Belasica Strumica Mac 7-2 5-0

Matador Púchov Svk- Sioni Bolnisi Geo 3-0 3-0

Red Star Belgrade Srb -Nistru Otachi Mol 5-0 3-2

Ekranas Panevezys Lit -DVSC Debrecen Hun 1-1 1-2

Birkirkara Mlt- Ferencvaros Hun 0-5 0-1

Torpedo Moscow Rus- SP Domagnano Sma 5-0 4-0

FK Atyrau Kaz- Levski Sofia Bul 1-4 0-2

Olimpija Ljubljana Slo- Shelbourne Irl 1-0 3-2

RC Lens Fra -Torpedo Kutaisi Geo 3-0 2-0

FC Petrzalka Svk- F91 Dudelange Lux 1-0 1-0

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Surprise of the 1st Qualifying Round ?:

FC Lovech Bul -Zimbru Chisinau Mol 0-0 0-2

FK Ventspils Lat -Wisla Plock Pol 1-1 2-2

Cementarnica Skopje Mac -GKS Katowice Pol 0-0 1-1

MyPa-47 Fin -Young Boys Sui 3-2 2-2

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Seeding in the UEFA Cup 2003/2004

Round 1 (96 teams) at :

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/s...seeduc2003.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seeduc2003.html)

pyrtas
Aug 29 2003, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by CeresRoyal@Aug 28 2003, 11:53 PM


NSI Runavik Far -Lyn Oslo Nor 1-3 0-6


Did you know that all of the goals in the second leg were scored by one guy?
Eldar Hadzihmemedovic scored them all (10, 30, 41, 48, 49, 57 min).!!!!!


FK Ventspils Lat -Wisla Plock Pol 1-1 2-2
How? They led 2-0.... Shame. It was a poor team anyway....

Cementarnica Skopje Mac -GKS Katowice Pol 0-0 1-1
No comment...


Fortunately strong Groclin is through

CeresRoyal
Aug 29 2003, 07:45 AM
Yep...and the 6 goals in one match is the biggest win for any Norvegian club ever in Uefa Cup...

I see Groclin is Unseeded ? ...so maybe FC København (seeded) -Groclin.....??


the other Danish teams in Round 1 are Brøndby (seeded), OB Odense ( Unseeded), FC Nordsjælland ( Unseeded), Esbjerg fB (Unseeded), ...good luck to all teams !

pyrtas
Aug 29 2003, 11:17 AM
48 games to go and even in the 1st round some of them lok interesting.

1. AIK Solna v Valencia CF
2. FC Dinamo Bucuresti v FC Shakhtar Donetsk
3. Maccabi Haifa FC v NK Publikum
4. FC Torpedo Moskva v PFC CSKA Sofia
5. Dundee FC v AC Perugia
6. FK Cementarnica 55 v RC Lens
7. Newcastle United FC v NAC Breda
8. SL Benfica v RAA Louviéroise
9. Panionios NFC v FC Nordsjælland
10. Heart of Midlothian FC v NK Željeznicar
11. Udinese Calcio v SV Austria Salzburg
12. Gençlerbirligi SK v Blackburn Rovers FC
13. ŠKM Púchov v FC Barcelona
14. NK Dinamo Zagreb v MTK Hungária FC
15. Hapoel Ramat-Gan FC v PFC Levski Sofia
16. 1. FC Kaiserslautern v FK Teplice
17. FK Sartid v SK Slavia Praha
18. Villarreal CF v Trabzonspor
19. Grasshopper-Club v HNK Hajduk Split
20. Hertha BSC Berlin v Groclin Grodzisk Wielkopolski
21. Liverpool FC v NK Olimpija Ljubljana
22. Vålerenga IF v Grazer AK
23. CSF Zimbru Chisinau v FC Aris Thessaloniki
24. FC København v Ferencvárosi TC
25. NK Varteks v Debreceni VSC
26. Hamburger SV v FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk
27. FC Girondins de Bordeaux v FC Artmedia Petržalka
28. AS Roma v FK Vardar
29. Manchester City FC v KSC Lokeren OV
30. FC Spartak Moskva v Esbjerg fB
31. Wisla Kraków v NEC Nijmegen
32. UD Leiria v Molde FK
33. FK Austria Wien v BV Borussia Dortmund
34. AJ Auxerre v Neuchâtel Xamax FC
35. FK Ventspils v Rosenborg BK
36. Gaziantepspor v Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC
37. Odense BK v FK Crvena Zvezda
38. Sporting Clube de Portugal v Malmö FF
39. FC Utrecht v MŠK Žilina
40. FC Metalurh Donetsk v Parma AC
41. Myllykosken Pallo-47 v FC Sochaux Montbéliard
42. FC Schalke 04 v NK Kamen Ingrad
43. RCD Mallorca v APOEL FC
44. Southampton FC v FC Steaua Bucuresti
45. Feyenoord v FC Kärnten
46. FC PAOK v SFK Lyn
47. Malatyaspor v FC Basel
48. Brøndby IF v FK Viktoria Žižkov


1,7, 11, 18, 20, 29, 33, 38, 44, 48 seem to be the most exciting

madcap
Aug 29 2003, 12:15 PM
My Pa Shafts Young Boys -

In the tie of the round, MyPa drew 2-2 with Young Boys but go through on aggregate to the first round proper of the Uefa Cup, thus justifying a pueirile headline.

:laugh :laugh :laugh

Foley87
Aug 29 2003, 01:39 PM
crackin tie city

CeresRoyal
Aug 30 2003, 04:55 PM
Pyrtas....I hope you wont bet too much money on the Swedish teams thou....I dont see they got much chance .....


2001/02 UC
R2: Halmstads BK (SWE) - Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR) , 0-1 & 1-6

1999/00 UCL
R1 (Grp B): AIK Solna (SWE) - FC Barcelona (ESP), 1-2 & 0-5

pyrtas
Sep 1 2003, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by CeresRoyal@Aug 30 2003, 05:55 PM
Pyrtas....I hope you wont bet too much money on the Swedish teams thou....I dont see they got much chance .....


2001/02 UC
R2: Halmstads BK (SWE) - Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR) , 0-1 & 1-6

1999/00 UCL
R1 (Grp B): AIK Solna (SWE) - FC Barcelona (ESP), 1-2 & 0-5
NO, I don`t give money on Swedish teams, I have already said a cople of times that Swedish teams are weaker than eg. Polish ;) and I wonder why is that.
There used to be good times for IFK Goeteborg. And now? Crap.

CeresRoyal
Sep 24 2003, 09:36 PM
UEFA Cup 2003-2004 results

Round 1

AIK Stockholm(Swe) - Valencia 0-1
Dinamo Bucuresti(Rom) - Shakhtar Donetsk(Ukr) 2-0
Maccabi Haifa(Isr) - Publikum Celje(Slo) 2-1
CSKA Sofia(Bul) - Torpedo Moscow(Rus) 1-1
Dundee FC(Sco) - Perugia(Ita) 1-2
Cementarnica Skopje(Mac) - RC Lens(Fra) 0-1
Newcastle United(Eng) - NAC Breda(Ned) 5-0
La Louvière(Bel) - Benfica(Por) 1-1

Panionios(Gre) - FC Nordsjælland(Den) 2-1
Hearts FC(Sco) - Zeljeznicar Sarajevo(Bos) 2-0
Austria Salzburg(Aut) - Udinese(Ita) 0-1
Genclerbirligi(Tur) - Blackburn Rovers(Eng) 3-1
Matador Púchov(Svk) - FC Barcelona(Esp) 1-1
Dinamo Zagreb(Cro) - MTK Budapest(Hun) 3-1
Hapoel Ramat-Gan(Isr) - Levski Sofia(Bul) 0-1
1.FC Kaiserslautern(Ger) - FK Teplice(Cze) 1-2

Sartid Smederevo(Srb) - Slavia Praha(Cze) 1-2
Villarreal(Esp) - Trabzonspor(Tur) 0-0
Grasshopper-Club Zürich(Sui) - Hajduk Split(Cro) 1-1
Hertha BSC(Ger) - Groclin Grodzisk(Pol) 0-0
Olimpija Ljubljana(Slo) - Liverpool(Eng) 1-1
Vålerengen IF(Nor) - Grazer AK(Aut) 0-0
Zimbru Chisinau(Mol) - Aris Thessaloniki(Gre) 1-1
Ferencvaros(Hun) - FC København(Den) 1-1

Varteks Varazdin(Cro) - DVSC Debrecen(Hun) 1-3
AS Roma(Ita) - Vardar Skopje(Mac) 4-0
Manchester City(Eng) - KSC Lokeren(Bel) 3-2
Spartak Moscow(Rus) - Esbjerg(Den) 2-0
União de Leiria(Por) - Molde FK(Nor) 1-0
Hamburger SV(Ger) - Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk(Ukr)
Girondins Bordeaux(Fra) - FC Petrzalka(Svk)
Wisla Kraków(Pol) - NEC Nijmegen(Ned)

Austria Wien(Aut) - Borussia Dortmund(Ger) 1-2
AJ Auxerre(Fra) - Xamax Neuchâtel(Sui) 1-0
FK Ventspils(Lat) - Rosenborg BK(Nor) 1-4
Gaziantepspor(Tur) - Hapoel Tel-Aviv(Isr) 1-0
OB Odense(Den) - Red Star Belgrade(Srb) 2-2
Sporting Lisbon(Por) - Malmö FF(Swe) 2-0
FC Utrecht(Ned) - MSK Zilina(Svk) 2-0
Metalurg Donetsk(Ukr) - AC Parma(Ita) 1-1

MyPa-47(Fin) - FC Sochaux(Fra) 0-1
APOEL Nicosia(Cyp) - Real Mallorca(Esp) 1-2
Southampton F(Eng) - Steaua Bucuresti(Rom) 1-1
PAOK Thessaloniki(Gre) - Lyn Oslo(Nor) 0-1
Malatyaspor(Tur) - FC Basel(Sui) 0-2
Brøndby IF(Den) - Viktoria Zizkov(Cze) 1-0
Kamen Ingrad(Cro) - Schalke '04(Ger)
Feyenoord(Ned) - FC Kärnten(Aut)
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Surprise of Round 1. ??:

Southampton(Eng) - Steaua Bucuresti(Rom) 1-1
1.FC Kaiserslautern(Ger) - FK Teplice(Cze) 1-2
Varteks Varazdin(Cro) - DVSC Debrecen(Hun) 1-3

pyrtas
Sep 25 2003, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by CeresRoyal@Sep 24 2003, 10:36 PM
Surprise of Round 1. ??:

Southampton(Eng) - Steaua Bucuresti(Rom) 1-1
1.FC Kaiserslautern(Ger) - FK Teplice(Cze) 1-2
Varteks Varazdin(Cro) - DVSC Debrecen(Hun) 1-3
and what about barcelona and Liverpool draws?/???
I know it was away but they didn`t play like Partizan Belgrade...

CeresRoyal
Sep 25 2003, 07:10 AM
I did think of including the Barcelona and Liverpool results....but as you say it was away matches....they didnt loose....and I dont know if Barcelona played with a B-team ?? ( Valencia played with a B-team in the AIK Stockholm(Swe) - Valencia 0-1 match)

If I should pick one match as the surprise of this Round it would be :

Varteks Varazdin(Cro) - DVSC Debrecen(Hun) 1-3

Ross420
Sep 25 2003, 08:33 AM
FC Kaiserslautern 1-2 FK Teplice :o

Biggest shock of the round so far....

CeresRoyal
Sep 25 2003, 12:31 PM
To Ross420....FC Kaiserslautern 1-2 FK Teplice ...the biggest surprise ?...not really...the CZE league is quite good and Teplice are at the top of the league ( 2nd i think)....Kaiserslautern however, are at the bottom of the Bundesliga....thou I'll still call it a surprise home lose....

Ross420
Sep 25 2003, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by CeresRoyal@Sep 25 2003, 02:31 PM
To Ross420....FC Kaiserslautern 1-2 FK Teplice ...the biggest surprise ?...not really...the CZE league is quite good and Teplice are at the top of the league ( 2nd i think)....Kaiserslautern however, are at the bottom of the Bundesliga....thou I'll still call it a surprise home lose....
A home loss is very bad, whether a team is on form or not.

I cant see them being able to turn this around :(

CeresRoyal
Sep 25 2003, 10:27 PM
UEFA Cup 2003-2004 results

Round 1

Hamburger SV(Ger) - Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk(Ukr) 2-1
Girondins Bordeaux(Fra) - FC Petrzalka(Svk) 2-1
Wisla Kraków(Pol) - NEC Nijmegen(Ned) 2-1
Kamen Ingrad(Cro) - Schalke '04(Ger) 0-0
Feyenoord(Ned) - FC Kärnten(Aut) 2-1

Tanghe the best
Sep 26 2003, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by CeresRoyal@Sep 25 2003, 12:36 AM
FC Utrecht(Ned) - MSK Zilina(Svk) 2-0
Bad game, but I am very happy with the result :USA_Blue's_Smiley

CeresRoyal
Oct 15 2003, 11:39 PM
UEFA Cup 2003-2004 results

Round 1

AIK Stockholm(Swe) - Valencia 0-1 & 0-1
Dinamo Bucuresti(Rom) - Shakhtar Donetsk(Ukr) 2-0 & 3-2
Maccabi Haifa(Isr) - Publikum Celje(Slo) 2-1 & 2-2
CSKA Sofia(Bul) - Torpedo Moscow(Rus) 1-1 & 1-1 (Penalty shootout 2-3)
Dundee FC(Sco) - Perugia(Ita) 1-2 & 0-1
Cementarnica Skopje(Mac) - RC Lens(Fra) 0-1 & 0-5
Newcastle United(Eng) - NAC Breda(Ned) 5-0 & 1-0
La Louvière(Bel) - Benfica(Por) 1-1 & 0-1

Panionios(Gre) - FC Nordsjælland(Den) 2-1 & 1-0
Hearts FC(Sco) - Zeljeznicar Sarajevo(Bos) 2-0 & 0-0
Austria Salzburg(Aut) - Udinese(Ita) 0-1 & 2-1
Genclerbirligi(Tur) - Blackburn Rovers(Eng) 3-1 & 1-1
Matador Púchov(Svk) - FC Barcelona(Esp) 1-1 & 0-8
Dinamo Zagreb(Cro) - MTK Budapest(Hun) 3-1 & 0-0
Hapoel Ramat-Gan(Isr) - Levski Sofia(Bul) 0-1 & 0-4

Sartid Smederevo(Srb) - Slavia Praha(Cze) 1-2 & 1-2
Villarreal(Esp) - Trabzonspor(Tur) 0-0 & 3-2
Grasshopper-Club Zürich(Sui) - Hajduk Split(Cro) 1-1 & 0-0
Hertha BSC(Ger) - Groclin Grodzisk(Pol) 0-0 & 0-1
Olimpija Ljubljana(Slo) - Liverpool(Eng) 1-1 & 0-3
Vålerengen IF(Nor) - Grazer AK(Aut) 0-0 & 1-1
Zimbru Chisinau(Mol) - Aris Thessaloniki(Gre) 1-1 & 1-2
Ferencvaros(Hun) - FC København(Den) 1-1 & 1-1 (Penalty shootout 2-3)

Varteks Varazdin(Cro) - DVSC Debrecen(Hun) 1-3 & 2-3
AS Roma(Ita) - Vardar Skopje(Mac) 4-0 & 1-1
Manchester City(Eng) - KSC Lokeren(Bel) 3-2 & 1-0
Spartak Moscow(Rus) - Esbjerg(Den) 2-0 & 1-1
União de Leiria(Por) - Molde FK(Nor) 1-0 & 1-3
Hamburger SV(Ger) - Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk(Ukr) 2-1 & 0-3
Girondins Bordeaux(Fra) - FC Petrzalka(Svk) 2-1 & 1-1
Wisla Kraków(Pol) - NEC Nijmegen(Ned) 2-1 & 2-1

Austria Wien(Aut) - Borussia Dortmund(Ger) 1-2 & 0-1
AJ Auxerre(Fra) - Xamax Neuchâtel(Sui) 1-0 & 1-0
FK Ventspils(Lat) - Rosenborg BK(Nor) 1-4 & 0-6
Gaziantepspor(Tur) - Hapoel Tel-Aviv(Isr) 1-0 & 0-0
OB Odense(Den) - Red Star Belgrade(Srb) 2-2 & 3-4
Sporting Lisbon(Por) - Malmö FF(Swe) 2-0 & 1-0
FC Utrecht(Ned) - MSK Zilina(Svk) 2-0 & 4-0
Metalurg Donetsk(Ukr) - AC Parma(Ita) 1-1 & 0-3

MyPa-47(Fin) - FC Sochaux(Fra) 0-1 & 0-2
APOEL Nicosia(Cyp) - Real Mallorca(Esp) 1-2 & 2-4
Southampton F(Eng) - Steaua Bucuresti(Rom) 1-1 & 0-1
PAOK Thessaloniki(Gre) - Lyn Oslo(Nor) 0-1 & 3-0
Malatyaspor(Tur) - FC Basel(Sui) 0-2 & 2-1
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Feyenoord(Ned) - FC Kärnten(Aut) 2-1 & ?
Kamen Ingrad(Cro) - Schalke '04(Ger) 0-0 & ?
Brøndby IF(Den) - Viktoria Zizkov(Cze) 1-0 & ?
1.FC Kaiserslautern(Ger) - FK Teplice(Cze) 1-2 & ?

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Surprise of Round 1. ??:

Hamburger SV(Ger) - Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk(Ukr) 2-1 & 0-3
Varteks Varazdin(Cro) - DVSC Debrecen(Hun) 1-3 & 2-3
Austria Salzburg(Aut) - Udinese(Ita) 0-1 & 2-1
Genclerbirligi(Tur) - Blackburn Rovers(Eng) 3-1 & 1-1
Southampton F(Eng) - Steaua Bucuresti(Rom) 1-1 & 0-1

Celticrugby
Oct 16 2003, 12:04 AM
Terrible result for Hertha, they are really hurting this year.

pyrtas
Oct 16 2003, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by Celticrugby@Oct 16 2003, 01:04 AM
Terrible result for Hertha, they are really hurting this year.
It is not even the reult but mainly the style!!! Hertha should be lucky they lost only 1 goal in this tie. if it wasn`t for Kiraly..... They were really (I am not being patriotic or something) outplayed by Groclin (Have to say that Groclin play better at the moment than Wisla).

The2ndMouse
Oct 16 2003, 06:59 AM
Hey! All 3 Greek Teams made it through to the next round! :clap

pyrtas
Oct 16 2003, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by The2ndMouse@Oct 16 2003, 07:59 AM
Hey! All 3 Greek Teams made it through to the next round! :clap
Greek football makes big step. They are in the Champions League, go through Uefa cup levels, qualify to the Euro 2004. Congratulation.
What is the recipe for success?

coobek
Oct 16 2003, 07:16 AM
Most shocking:

Hamburger SV(Ger) - Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk(Ukr) 2-1 & 0-3
Austria Salzburg(Aut) - Udinese(Ita) 0-1 & 2-1

coobek
Oct 16 2003, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by pyrtas+Oct 16 2003, 08:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pyrtas @ Oct 16 2003, 08:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-The2ndMouse@Oct 16 2003, 07:59 AM
Hey! All 3 Greek Teams made it through to the next round!&nbsp; :clap
Greek football makes big step. They are in the Champions League, go through Uefa cup levels, qualify to the Euro 2004. Congratulation.
What is the recipe for success? [/b][/quote]
A bit of Urzo and some Feta cheese :laugh !!!

coobek
Oct 16 2003, 07:25 AM
Groclin can get:

FC Barcelona Esp 140.769 :nono
Valencia Esp 131.769 :nono
Liverpool Eng 94.170
AS Roma Ita 91.155 :nono
AC Parma Ita 90.155 :nono
Real Mallorca Esp 72.769 :nono
Girondins Bordeaux Fra 71.734
Borussia Dortmund ** Ger 70.566
RC Lens * Fra 53.734 :USA_Blue's_Smiley
Newcastle United ** Eng 51.170
Slavia Praha ** Cze 48.975 :USA_Blue's_Smiley
PAOK Thessaloniki Gre 44.391 :USA_Blue's_Smiley
Rosenborg BK ** Nor 42.787 :USA_Blue's_Smiley
Spartak Moscow Rus 40.520
Villarreal *** Esp 37.769
Sporting CP Lisbon Por 32.791
Dinamo Zagreb ** Cro 32.312 :USA_Blue's_Smiley
Perugia *** Ita 31.155 :USA_Blue's_Smiley
Benfica ** Por 30.791
AJ Auxerre Fra 29.734 :nono

pyrtas
Oct 16 2003, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by coobek@Oct 16 2003, 08:25 AM
Groclin can get:

FC Barcelona Esp 140.769
Valencia Esp 131.769
Liverpool Eng 94.170
AS Roma Ita 91.155
AC Parma Ita 90.155
Real Mallorca Esp 72.769
Girondins Bordeaux Fra 71.734
Borussia Dortmund ** Ger 70.566
RC Lens * Fra 53.734
Newcastle United ** Eng 51.170
Slavia Praha ** Cze 48.975
PAOK Thessaloniki Gre 44.391
Rosenborg BK ** Nor 42.787
Spartak Moscow Rus 40.520
Villarreal *** Esp 37.769
Wisla Kraków ** Pol 33.812
Sporting CP Lisbon Por 32.791
Dinamo Zagreb ** Cro 32.312
Perugia *** Ita 31.155
Benfica ** Por 30.791
AJ Auxerre Fra 29.734
Knowing their "luck" Groclin get Barcelona, Dortmund or Roma.. The rest is in their reach.

CeresRoyal
Oct 16 2003, 08:22 AM
"What is the Greek recipe for success? "...well...in the FC Nordsjælland - Panionios match the recipe was either = pure luck or witchcraft ...he...he..

pyrtas
Oct 16 2003, 08:47 AM
and why Southampton and Blackburn weren`t able to reach second stage? Does it really mean that in England the level differs so much between the top 4 to 6 teams and the rest? Like in Holland?

coobek
Oct 16 2003, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by pyrtas@Oct 16 2003, 09:47 AM
Southampton and Blackburn
Who plays there ? - ogorki z ogorkowej ligi i tyle :P .

pyrtas
Oct 16 2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by coobek+Oct 16 2003, 09:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (coobek @ Oct 16 2003, 09:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-pyrtas@Oct 16 2003, 09:47 AM
Southampton and Blackburn
Who plays there ? - ogorki z ogorkowej ligi i tyle :P . [/b][/quote]
well not only "ogorki" (cucumbers) - Beattie, Pahars, Philips, Cole, Emerton..... and more . wouldn`t call them "ogorki"

coobek
Oct 16 2003, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by pyrtas@Oct 16 2003, 09:53 AM
Pahars
Ogorek :Kenzo's Smiley .!

Tak w ogole apelowalbym o ogorkowego smiliego i smiliego z Wojtkiem Kowalczykiem i Jestem z Brodna!!!

Big Pete
Oct 16 2003, 09:06 AM
Oi burak, nie moviem po polsku tu :) I gave it a shoot :Kenzo's Smiley

The2ndMouse
Oct 16 2003, 09:12 AM
I will not agree so fast with being so content with the Greek success of getting all 3 teams through !

Yes I am happy, but the competition is still poor! And as my friend above said, the 3 Greek teams did not exactly walz through!

Anyway, all previous years constant good results by Panathinaikos and AEK (in that order) gained us some places up the ladder but this year we started really badly and on top of that all football fields are closed for the Olympicas (refurbishing)...

I think that our CL hopes or our teams advancing are already slim and the 3 UEFA cup teams will not manage for much longer.

I hope AEK, Panathinaikos and Olympiakos will wake up and start collecting points in the CL.. In case they fail to, then Greek Football will take a giant step back.

At least the NT did better this time... :P

CeresRoyal
Oct 16 2003, 09:23 AM
"the 3 Greak UEFA cup teams will not manage for much longer."....

You should never underestimate the power of witchcraft.... my friend... All 3 Greek Teams will make it through to the 3rd round as well....he...he..

Foley87
Oct 16 2003, 09:31 AM
FC Barcelona Esp 140.769
Valencia Esp 131.769
Liverpool Eng 94.170
AS Roma Ita 91.155
AC Parma Ita 90.155
Real Mallorca Esp 72.769
Girondins Bordeaux Fra 71.734
Borussia Dortmund ** Ger 70.566
RC Lens * Fra 53.734
Newcastle United ** Eng 51.170
Slavia Praha ** Cze 48.975
PAOK Thessaloniki Gre 44.391
Rosenborg BK ** Nor 42.787
Spartak Moscow Rus 40.520
Villarreal *** Esp 37.769
Sporting CP Lisbon Por 32.791
Dinamo Zagreb ** Cro 32.312
Perugia *** Ita 31.155
Benfica ** Por 30.791
AJ Auxerre Fra 29.734

are these all the seeded sides

does that mean that man city will draw one of these clubs???

coobek
Oct 16 2003, 09:49 AM
Yes Foley + Wisla.

CeresRoyal
Oct 16 2003, 09:53 AM
this is how it is :

Round 2 (48 teams)

Unknown seeding..............coef.
------------------------ --- -------
Kärnten / Feyenoord....... 14.687-67.749
Teplice / Kaiserslautern... 16.975-59.566
Kamen Ingrad / Schalke ....9.312-40.566
Manchester City * Eng......29.170
FC Basel (Sui) ................ 29.125
Panionios (Gre)............... 27.391


Seeded teams..................coef.........Unseeded teams................coef.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
FC Barcelona(Esp)......... 140.769..... - ???
Valencia.........................131.769..... - ???
Liverpool..........................94.170..... - ???
AS Roma .........................91.155.....Maccabi Haifa..................25.999
AC Parma.........................90.155.....Red Star Belgrade...........22.915
Real Mallorca....................72.769.....Aris Thessaloniki...............22.391
Girondins Bordeaux...........71.734.....FC Sochaux-Montbéliard....21.734
Borussia Dortmund **........70.566.....Zizkov / Brøndby...........<21.687
RC Lens *.........................53.734.....FC Utrecht .......................20.749
Newcastle United **......... 51.170.....FC København **..............20.687
Slavia Praha **.................48.975.....Levski Sofia *...................18.332
PAOK Thessaloniki.............44.391.....Hearts FC ........................18.187
Rosenborg BK ** ..............42.787.....Gaziantepspor............ ......16.495
Spartak Moscow................40.520.....Vålerengen IF...................15.787
Villarreal ***....................37.769 ....Genclerbirligi.....................15.495
Wisla Kraków **...............33.812 ....Steaua Bucuresti *.............15.478
Sporting CP Lisbon ...........32.791.....Molde FK *.........................13.787
Dinamo Zagreb **............32.312.....Hajduk Split *.....................13.312
Perugia ***......................31.155.....Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk *......13.291
Benfica **........................30.791.....Austria Salzburg .................11.687
AJ Auxerre.......................29.734.....Torpedo Moscow *...............11.520
- ??? .............................................Grocl in Grodzisk *...............10.812
- ??? .............................................DVSC Debrecen * ..............10.395
- ??? .............................................Dinam o Bucuresti *...............8.478

KEY:
* = team started in qualification round
** = team eliminated in 3rd qualification round Champions League
*** = qualified through Intertoto Cup

coobek
Oct 16 2003, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by Big Pete@Oct 16 2003, 10:06 AM
Oi burak, nie moviem po polsku tu :) I gave it a shoot :Kenzo's Smiley
Just on target Kuzyneiro.

Foley87
Oct 16 2003, 10:55 AM
FC Barcelona Esp 140.769
Valencia Esp 131.769
AS Roma Ita 91.155
AC Parma Ita 90.155
Real Mallorca Esp 72.769
Girondins Bordeaux Fra 71.734
Borussia Dortmund ** Ger 70.566
RC Lens * Fra 53.734
Villarreal *** Esp 37.769
Sporting CP Lisbon Por 32.791
Perugia *** Ita 31.155
Benfica ** Por 30.791
AJ Auxerre Fra 29.734


any of those will do :P

prwefer a spanish side tho

CeresRoyal
Oct 16 2003, 11:09 AM
I dont think so Foley...as you see... if either Feyenoord, Kaiserslautern (most likely)... or Schalke lose ...man city will be first in line to get seeded (one of the 3 spots left )

Foley87
Oct 16 2003, 12:07 PM
when are these games for feyenoord kaiserslautern and schalke

coobek
Oct 16 2003, 12:28 PM
Today Foley.

CeresRoyal
Oct 16 2003, 04:33 PM
UEFA Cup 2003-2004 results

Round 1

Brøndby IF(Den) - Viktoria Zizkov(Cze) 1-0 & 1-0
1.FC Kaiserslautern(Ger) - FK Teplice(Cze) 1-2 & 0-1

-----------------------------------------------------------
Feyenoord(Ned) - FC Kärnten(Aut) 2-1 & ?
Kamen Ingrad(Cro) - Schalke '04(Ger) 0-0 & ?
----------------------------------------------------------
Surprise of Round 1. ??:

1.FC Kaiserslautern(Ger) - FK Teplice(Cze) 1-2 & 0-1
Hamburger SV(Ger) - Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk(Ukr) 2-1 & 0-3
Varteks Varazdin(Cro) - DVSC Debrecen(Hun) 1-3 & 2-3
Austria Salzburg(Aut) - Udinese(Ita) 0-1 & 2-1
Genclerbirligi(Tur) - Blackburn Rovers(Eng) 3-1 & 1-1

Van Der Vaart 23
Oct 16 2003, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Foley87@Oct 16 2003, 03:07 PM
when are these games for feyenoord kaiserslautern and schalke
Kaiserslautern is out, so you'll be seeded..

Foley87
Oct 16 2003, 09:18 PM
yeh all good

Big Pete
Oct 17 2003, 07:54 AM
Uefa has made four groups consisting of 6 seeded and 6 unseeded teams some the field of potential opponents have been narrowed down

Uefa Cup draw grouping (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UEFACup/news/Kind=1/newsId=119565.html)

So now the chance of FCK meeting Wisla is even bigger and Man City might have the pleasure of meeting Groclin

pyrtas
Oct 17 2003, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by Big Pete@Oct 17 2003, 08:54 AM


So now the chance of FCK meeting Wisla is even bigger and Man City might have the pleasure of meeting Groclin
That `d be a good draw!! With 2 Polish teams in the 3rd round!!!

Big Pete
Oct 17 2003, 08:07 AM
An now there is a very real chance of you raiding my fridge of pølser and øl :crying

pyrtas
Oct 17 2003, 09:10 AM
Groclin _ Manchester City !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The2ndMouse
Oct 17 2003, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by CeresRoyal@Oct 16 2003, 12:23 PM
"the 3 Greak UEFA cup teams will not manage for much longer."....

You should never underestimate the power of witchcraft.... my friend... All 3 Greek Teams will make it through to the 3rd round as well....he...he..
Well, I have only one thing to say...

If Panionios manage to go through Barcelona, I will believe in whatever kind of miracles you wnt me too! :Kenzo's Smiley