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nicodemus
Jul 29 2003, 10:42 PM
..........................................rustu... ........................................
...Rizeger(sp)..............marquez.......Puyol... ..........._______???
............................................Xavi.. ...............................
overmars..........................Ronaldinho...... ..................Quaresma
...............saviola............................ ....kluivert.........................



what a offense...



sorry if the defense os all wrong, i dunno much about it :crying

musicrave
Jul 29 2003, 10:51 PM
I think the defense will have Andersson and marquez pairing up and puyol playing wide on the right, as for the left, oscar lopez or navaaro?


....puyol...............marquez...andersson....... ......narvarro/lopez

Killah
Jul 29 2003, 11:00 PM
this would be my team till navarro gets back from injury or we sign a new LB

gk rustu
rb gabri
cb puyol
cb marquez
lb l enrique yes L ENRIQUE
dmc - xavi
amc ronaldinho
rm quresma
lm overmars
fc saviola
fc kluivert

Van Der Vaart 23
Jul 30 2003, 02:01 AM
----------------- Rustu ---------------
Puyol -- Marquez - Andersson - Navarro
----------------- Cocu ---------------
Quaresma ------------------ Overmars
-------------- Ronaldinho ------------
-------- Saviola --- Kluivert ---------

Ronaldinho's buy totally useles since he's only keeping Luis Enrique on the bench, who was Barca's best player last year.. :wacko:

Fins Prompte
Jul 30 2003, 04:20 AM
Place Marc on the bench then, and then use him as a sub in the seconf half, since he and kluivert click so well.

fenderplm
Jul 30 2003, 08:37 AM
Two possibilities:


.....................Rustu........................ ......|........................Rustu

Puyol.. .Marquez...Anderson??......???......|...Puyol...Ma rquez...Anderson??.....???

...............Xavi....Cocu/Motta..................|......Quaresma.....Xavi... .Overmars

...Quaresma..Ronaldinho...Overmars.......|........ .............Ronaldinho

......................Kluivert.................... .......|...............Saviola........Kluivert




Ther are six players that are bound to play: Puyol, Marquez, Xavi, Quaresma, Ronaldinho and Kluivert.

FCBfurimmer
Jul 30 2003, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23@Jul 30 2003, 03:01 AM
Ronaldinho's buy totally useles since he's only keeping Luis Enrique on the bench, who was Barca's best player last year.. :wacko:
Laporta promissed a star and delivered one! But what does that help us if he´s useless?? Thats why i was for D´Alessandro would cost us less. Or even Riquelme could play in his position.....???

Why was Laporta after Ronaldinho why dindt rather go after usefull player as Lucio, Chivu, and we would have a star and a usefull player!!!!

Van Der Vaart 23
Jul 30 2003, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by FCBfurimmer+Jul 30 2003, 12:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FCBfurimmer @ Jul 30 2003, 12:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Van Der Vaart 23@Jul 30 2003, 03:01 AM
Ronaldinho's buy totally useles since he's only keeping Luis Enrique on the bench, who was Barca's best player last year.. :wacko:
Laporta promissed a star and delivered one! But what does that help us if he´s useless?? Thats why i was for D´Alessandro would cost us less. Or even Riquelme could play in his position.....???

Why was Laporta after Ronaldinho why dindt rather go after usefull player as Lucio, Chivu, and we would have a star and a usefull player!!!! [/b][/quote]
D'Allesandro would be as useles as Ronaldinho, since he plays in the same position... Barca should just have gona for a top class defender, preferably a left back..

Daniel de Ridder
Jul 30 2003, 12:29 PM
-----------Barca Team 2003!---------------



-----------------RÜSTÜ----------------------


--------MÁRQUEZ---TORTOLERO-----------


PUYOL----------------------------NAVARRO


--------XAVI-------------INIESTA----------


-QUARESMA-KLUIVERT-LUIS ENRIQUE -


---------------SAVIOLA---------------------

VBaia
Jul 30 2003, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by fenderplm@Jul 30 2003, 09:37 AM
Two possibilities:


.....................Rustu........................ ......|........................Rustu

Puyol.. .Marquez...Anderson??......???......|...Puyol...Ma rquez...Anderson??.....???

...............Xavi....Cocu/Motta..................|......Quaresma.....Xavi... .Overmars

...Quaresma..Ronaldinho...Overmars.......|........ .............Ronaldinho

......................Kluivert.................... .......|...............Saviola........Kluivert




Ther are six players that are bound to play: Puyol, Marquez, Xavi, Quaresma, Ronaldinho and Kluivert.
Assuming that Saviola completes his dual citizenship, and given Rijkaard 4-2-3-1 tactic :

Rustu

Puyol Marquez Andersson ?????

Xavi Motta

Quaresma Saviola Ronaldinho

Kluivert


For me, the following should play : Quaresma, Ronaldinho, Marquez, Saviola, Xavi, Puyol.

If Barca can't find a decent left back, then why bother with a back 4 ? :

Rustu

Puyol Marquez Andersson

Xavi Motta

Quaresma Ronaldinho Overmars

Saviola Kluivert

For me, the tactic should try and accomodate the best players.

If the EU rule is a problem, swap Rustu for Valdes

VBaia
Jul 30 2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by fenderplm@Jul 30 2003, 09:37 AM
Two possibilities:


.....................Rustu........................ ......|........................Rustu

Puyol.. .Marquez...Anderson??......???......|...Puyol...Ma rquez...Anderson??.....???

...............Xavi....Cocu/Motta..................|......Quaresma.....Xavi... .Overmars

...Quaresma..Ronaldinho...Overmars.......|........ .............Ronaldinho

......................Kluivert.................... .......|...............Saviola........Kluivert




Ther are six players that are bound to play: Puyol, Marquez, Xavi, Quaresma, Ronaldinho and Kluivert.
Assuming that Saviola completes his dual citizenship, and given Rijkaard 4-2-3-1 tactic :

------------------------------------------ Rustu

------------------Puyol-------Marquez----------Andersson ?????

---------------------------------Xavi----------------Motta

------------------Quaresma------------Saviola------------Ronaldinho

------------------------------------------Kluivert

For me, the following should play : Quaresma, Ronaldinho, Marquez, Saviola, Xavi, Puyol.

If Barca can't find a decent left back, then why bother with a back 4 ? :

------------------------------------------Rustu

---------------------------Puyol-------Marquez--------Andersson

----------------------------------Xavi------------Motta

----------------Quaresma-----------Ronaldinho---------Overmars

-----------------------------Saviola-------------Kluivert

For me, the tactic should try and accomodate the best players.

If the EU rule is a problem, swap Rustu for Valdes

FCBfurimmer
Jul 30 2003, 04:36 PM
-------------------------------rustu/valdez-dont care----------------
puyoul-----------------------------------anderson--------------------
---------------------------marquez----------------------------overmars
----------------xavi----------------------------------motta-------------
quaresma----------------Ronaldinho-----------------------------------
--------------------saviola-------------------kluivert-------------------

Marquez would be at back-sometimes do Viera´s business, but overmars would have to play less offencive,....

puyolman
Jul 30 2003, 06:38 PM
we should play with 4 defenders, 1 defensive midfielder and 3 more attacking midfielders.that tactic alwasys keeps me winning in cm4.

---------------------------------------rustu------------------------------------------
------------puyol--------andersson--------------marquez----------navarro/reiziger
-----------------------------------------xavi-------------------------------------

------------quaresma ---------ronaldinho/luis enrique ------------overmars-------

-------------------------------- kluivert ------- saviola----------------------------


maybe if this tactic is to offensive, or matches against big clubs we can play more defensive, for exemple with xavi and cocu in midfield. and luis enrique for more experience.also thiago motta is a good hard working midfielder. another defender would be usefull, maybe daniel van buyten from marseille but i think he's to expensive. it definitely must be a EU player.

puyolman
Jul 30 2003, 06:38 PM
we should play with 4 defenders, 1 defensive midfielder and 3 more attacking midfielders.that tactic alwasys keeps me winning in cm4.

rustu
puyol--------andersson--------------marquez----------navarro/reiziger

xavi

quaresma ---------ronaldinho/luis enrique ------------overmars

kluivert ------- saviola


maybe if this tactic is to offensive, or matches against big clubs we can play more defensive, for exemple with xavi and cocu in midfield. and luis enrique for more experience.also thiago motta is a good hard working midfielder. another defender would be usefull, maybe daniel van buyten from marseille but i think he's to expensive. it definitely must be a EU player.

Valdo
Jul 30 2003, 07:00 PM
So this is my Idea. I don´t like this 4-2-3-1 tactics, but it could work well, if the players will play well


-------------------------Rustu----------------------
Puyol-------Marquez---------Motta---------Gabri
----------Enrique----------------Cocu-------------
---Ronaldinho--------Kluivert------Quaresma---
------------------------Saviola---------------------

or - this is how it should be, if I´m the manager

-------------------------Valdés---------------------
-------------Marquez----------Motta---------------
Puyol-----------------------------------------Gabri
--------------------------Cocu----------------------
-------------Ronaldinho-------Quaresma---------
-----------------------Riquelme--------------------
-------------Kluivert--------------------------------
--------------------------------Saviolá-------------

But Riqulme will go, so this position belongs to Enrique

puyolman
Jul 30 2003, 07:58 PM
-----------------------------------------GK----------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------RB------------------CBR---------------CBL---------------------LB-------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------<<<MCR>>>-----------------<<<MCL>>>-------------------
----------AMR--------------------------------------------------------AML-----------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------SCR>>>--------<<<SCL----------------------------



I think this should be a perfect tactic.

GK: Rustu

defense:
RB:Puyol
CBR:Gabri
CBL:Marquez
LB:Navarro/Reiziger

we can also set Puyol as CBR and Reiziger or Gabri as RB.Another signing for the place of LB can be usefull if their are injuries and to get some more choice to build the defence.

midfield:
MCR:Xavi
MCL:Cocu/motta
They can start the attacks from midfield to play to the more offensive players.These 2 places should keep the balance in the team.They need to help defense if necessary and start offensive inpulses.

AMR:Quaresma/Ronaldinho/Motta
AML:Overmars/Luis Garcia
They need to pass the defense or give ball to the SC, they shoeld make the actions.Backup for our SC.We can also use Luis enrique in all midfield positions.

strikers:
SCR:Kluivert
SCL:Saviola/Ronaldinho


extra:
Max 3 non-EU players on field.Rustu and Marquez need to play.So Saviola and Ronaldinho can't play together unless Saviola gets EU status or buy new defender or striker.

That is my advice.

:::> 1 new defender and 1 new striker or we can use dani in attack if there are injuries or Ronaldinho is in midfield and we can't use Saviola because non EU.