Sack Jesualdo Ferreira Thread

[Bossanova]

If he loses to Sporting he will be sacked or very close to it.

Opinions?

[grassman]

Agreed should have never been appointed manager in the first place. Incredibly average, should have at least gotten you to a CL 1/4 final.

[Bossanova]

Agreed should have never been appointed manager in the first place. Incredibly average, should have at least gotten you to a CL 1/4 final.

We didn't have much choice when our manager walked out on us 2 weeks before the start of the season.

He's done well domestically, but in all honesty, we had the best team in Portugal the last 2 seasons, and now we don't. Simple as.

[SCP-87]

JF is not a big game coach.

how many Big teams in big matches has Porto beaten with JF at the helm?

answer = NONE

unless you count benfica as a big team, and the last two seasons they clearly werent.

CL, owned by liverpool, arsenal (its ok to lose but they were simply owned in these games), couldnt beat a inferior shalke team...etc

lost some games with sporting as well, which cost porto a couple of cups.

[Bossanova]

JF is not a big game coach.

how many Big teams in big matches has Porto beaten with JF at the helm?

answer = NONE

unless you count benfica as a big team, and the last two seasons they clearly werent.

CL, owned by liverpool, arsenal (its ok to lose but they were simply owned in these games), couldnt beat a inferior shalke team...etc

lost some games with sporting as well, which cost porto a couple of cups.

We weren't owned at anfield, it was 1-1 until 78 mins, we just collapsed. That is our problem..we collapse.

Oh and we beat some big-ish teams...Benfica, Sporting, Marseille...but always at home...benfica and besiktas away

We suck away from home, we really do, and JF sucks in these matches its true.

[SCP-87]

benfica, marseille, besiktas werent big teams. if tarik can dribble half your team and score you arent a big team. besiktas is turkish and turks always get owned their whole history by portugal in soccer. Benfica wasnt any good last two seasons , especially their infamous 4th placed effort last year. now they bought a new team so i think they are better. ill give you sporting, they are simply majestic.

[grassman]

You think its time for a best signings thread yet boss? Or should we wait a few more weeks :cool

[Hurley]

he should leave yes. won't mind if he stays until the end of the season, but we'd be better with someone who can instill a winning mentality on the team.

[nicodemus]

Who to replace him though?

[Simaofan-20]

JF is not a big game coach.

how many Big teams in big matches has Porto beaten with JF at the helm?

answer = NONE

unless you count benfica as a big team, and the last two seasons they clearly werent.

CL, owned by liverpool, arsenal (its ok to lose but they were simply owned in these games), couldnt beat a inferior shalke team...etc

lost some games with sporting as well, which cost porto a couple of cups.
He has beaten Sporting before lol

[Simaofan-20]

benfica, marseille, besiktas werent big teams. if tarik can dribble half your team and score you arent a big team. besiktas is turkish and turks always get owned their whole history by portugal in soccer. Benfica wasnt any good last two seasons , especially their infamous 4th placed effort last year. now they bought a new team so i think they are better. ill give you sporting, they are simply majestic.
Tarik never played well against us lol or even dribbled past our defenders where do you come up with this stuff?LOL

[SCP-87]

maybe like 2 times at the most hes beaten sporting out of like prlly 6 or 7 matches

[Simaofan-20]

He still won thats all that matters. You say he hasn't beaten big teams well he has just not often. He manages Porto like they are Braga. He's a little too afraid to attack because he doesn't want to be caught on the counter

[SCP-87]

Tarik never played well against us lol or even dribbled past our defenders where do you come up with this stuff?LOL

im referring to Porto v Marseilles last season

here is simao fan approved video evidence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWJsdLGIMWw

the point was, Bossanova listed marseilles as a big team. any team that lets tarik score a goal like that on them loses the right to be called a big team in my books.

marseilles = french = garbage. if its a team from france not called lyon than you are worthelss.

[Bossanova]

he should leave yes. won't mind if he stays until the end of the season, but we'd be better with someone who can instill a winning mentality on the team.

I think if we sack him mid-season we are doomed.

I'll only want him sacked if we really drop off the pace in the league. Because sacking him will make this season a repeat of 2004/5 for sure.

End of the season he has to go, I just hope he can last until then :s

I also really see nobody to replace him (in Portugal at least, and definitely not mid-season anywhere), so its in our best interests to try and wait until the end of season to get rid of him.

I honestly wouldn't mind getting Paulo Bento once he gets sacked from Sporting (seems kinda inevitable too, despite his good work)

Saying this, 0-0 at HT vs Basle, not a good result for Sporting either. But its only the first half.

[Simaofan-20]

im referring to Porto v Marseilles last season

here is simao fan approved video evidence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWJsdLGIMWw

the point was, Bossanova listed marseilles as a big team. any team that lets tarik score a goal like that on them loses the right to be called a big team in my books.

marseilles = french = garbage. if its a team from france not called lyon than you are worthelss.
I was talking more about him apparently doing well against Benfica and dribbling past our players when he didn't

[Bluedragon]

Never liked JF, and I agree with most of what you guys have written, I think in the CL when Porto players away he goes in with a negative attitude, meaning makes Porto play Defensive.

Anyone in the world knows that you can't go to Arsenal and play defensively...if you let Arsenal play then get used to pick the ball out of the net a few times.

Nut who would come at coach Porto or any Portuguese team, hopefully someone who likes to attack

[Hurley]

I think if we sack him mid-season we are doomed.

I'll only want him sacked if we really drop off the pace in the league. Because sacking him will make this season a repeat of 2004/5 for sure.

End of the season he has to go, I just hope he can last until then :s

I also really see nobody to replace him (in Portugal at least, and definitely not mid-season anywhere), so its in our best interests to try and wait until the end of season to get rid of him.

I honestly wouldn't mind getting Paulo Bento once he gets sacked from Sporting (seems kinda inevitable too, despite his good work)

Saying this, 0-0 at HT vs Basle, not a good result for Sporting either. But its only the first half.

Peseiro over him. played much better football with an inferior squad.

but the best would be a big foreign coach.

[Bossanova]

Peseiro over him. played much better football with an inferior squad.

but the best would be a big foreign coach.

Can't think of many who we could afford/would want to come.

Laszlo Boloni? He's doing ok for now :cool

I rated Peseiro alot before his move to Panathinaikos, but a few of their fans really disliked him (he came 2nd in league) and he's mid-table with Rapid now.

Do you have any managers in mind?

[Simaofan-20]

Look in Brazil?

[Bossanova]

Man those brazucas often flop in Portugal, can't remember the last to pick up a big 3 team and do well

[grassman]

The return of Fernando Santos =O
Lulz

[Bossanova]

....

[grassman]

Well it's gonna happen soon =|
Probably around the next International fixtures :nod
Almost time for teh return of Fernando Santos :ninja

[Bossanova]

Its quite depressing actually.

I can't see an alternatives in the market.

[Hurley]

an argentinian.

[Bossanova]

It has depressed me for a while, but in particular this season, the lack of Portuguese players we have.

I know Portuguese players might not be the best right now, but they play with heart.

Look at Meireles, he's pretty average, but one of our best mids cos of his attitude.

I say get rid of half the south americans we got there and play some Portuguese kids. Vieirinha would do better than most of those guys out there today...

[grassman]

Should have picked up Manuel Da Costa, Antunes maybe Tiago Gomes as well ;)

[Hurley]

It has depressed me for a while, but in particular this season, the lack of Portuguese players we have.

I know Portuguese players might not be the best right now, but they play with heart.

Look at Meireles, he's pretty average, but one of our best mids cos of his attitude.

I say get rid of half the south americans we got there and play some Portuguese kids. Vieirinha would do better than most of those guys out there today...

really? can't think of a footballing nation that right now has such an abundance of lazy, cocky, wannabe-metrosexual primadonnas. look at their earrings and hairstyles and you've got the answer for all this underachieving.

i want us to have more portuguese players, but only for identity reasons and nothing more. if it weren't for that, i'd take the argentinians anyday.

[Hurley]

our next coach should be Larry David.

http://oglobo.globo.com/blogs/arquivos_upload/2008/05/235_2644-bianchi.jpg

[SCP-87]

Sporting has alot of Portuguese players, look how thats turning out they were in first place and they flushed it down the toilet by losing two games to their rivals.

Portuguese players in general dont play for the heart, they play for the cash. Even on Sporting Moutinho wanted to leave in the summer and veloso isnt a sportinguista he probably prefers benfica but most of all I think he prefers being a metrosexual pretty boy and having gay sex with Djalo.

[Hurley]

nico's gonna kill us löl

[Simaofan-20]

So he wins 2 leagues and say he should keep on as manager but has 1 loss and you want him to be fired?Dam Portuguese are ****ed up fans like I've been saying for years

[SCP-87]

nico's gonna kill us löl

Before

http://cache01.stormap.sapo.pt/fotostore01/fotos//0c/82/66/1817463_67OZa.jpeg

After

http://republika.pl/blog_bo_4085918/5557473/sz/cristiano-ronaldo-manbag.jpg

:laugh
Times change

[Simaofan-20]

That stashe is soo killer

[V.Angelo7]

J.F is just another average coach that has no place at porto. Then again as people said.. sacking him now will just be a repeat of 04/05.

We must be able to afford a decent coach though.. we're still a top club in europe and there's no reason why we cant attract good coaches.

[Hurley]

Before

http://cache01.stormap.sapo.pt/fotostore01/fotos//0c/82/66/1817463_67OZa.jpeg

After

http://republika.pl/blog_bo_4085918/5557473/sz/cristiano-ronaldo-manbag.jpg

:laugh
Times change

lol

father

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5654/veloso1ew1.jpg

son

http://cache02.stormap.sapo.pt/fotostore02/fotos//bd/b2/eb/43983_0004sgxc.jpg

[Simaofan-20]

Miguel looks NOTHING like Antonio

[Hurley]

So he wins 2 leagues and say he should keep on as manager but has 1 loss and you want him to be fired?Dam Portuguese are ****ed up fans like I've been saying for years

tbf he started the thread a while ago. and jesualdo has always been far from being unanimously accepted so it's not like you're making it out to be and you know it. if we're ****ed up go support canada, fat ass.

[Hurley]

J.F is just another average coach that has no place at porto. Then again as people said.. sacking him now will just be a repeat of 04/05.

We must be able to afford a decent coach though.. we're still a top club in europe and there's no reason why we cant attract good coaches.

welcome back :)

[Simaofan-20]

tbf he started the thread a while ago. and jesualdo has always been far from being unanimously accepted so it's not like you're making it out to be and you know it. if we're ****ed up go support canada, fat ass.
Yah he started it but its not like you're even in a bad position. The season just started and you're team is in first. What in the world is there to be complaining about. Not to mention he's winning you sissies titles and you still have room to complain its ******* pathetic. Thats all Portuguese mostly like to do just complain even when theres winning involved. Everyone complained abotu Scolari and what for?Winning games isn't enough anymore it seems for us and its ******* PATHETIC. Who cares if Jesualdo wasn't loved when he came to Porto,he's still geetting the job done. Hell even you said he was great with Braga and now he sucks because he wins?

You guys mostly are ****ed, you guys want guarentees and always expect crap. Its really stupid to complain like I've said soooooo many times . What the hell more do you want really?You look so stupid complaining about him . Europe we're not going to win no Portuguese team will ever win again so ******* face it you faggot. I'd rather be a fat ass than a 40yo pedophile like yourself so **** off

[SCP-87]

im pretty sure Portuguese teams will win the CL again one day but not anytime soon

imo sooner or later uefa will be forced to step in and level the playing field. some already talk about making salary cap or transfer restrictions and these things will help the big clubs in Portugal, Netherlands, France , Scotland etc compete for the CL.

[grassman]

TeH champions league is a ****in rigged competition:nod

[SCP-87]

Sporting is the pride of the CL, did you know Sporting played in the first CL match ever in 1956?

Shaktar better STFU they are noobs, Sporting was the first club to set foot on a CL pitch (game was at estadio nacional)

[benfica066]

Sporting is the pride of the CL, did you know Sporting played in the first CL match ever in 1956?

Shaktar better STFU they are noobs, Sporting was the first club to set foot on a CL pitch (game was at estadio nacional)
yes sporting is the pride of the CL too bad they haven't made it past the group stages

[SCP-87]

STFU

Sporting is the pride of the CL, hell they invented the CL practically for us.

first CL 1955/56-> invitation only...spoting wasnt the champion but they still invited us. what does that tell you? they created this tournment for clubs such as Sporting thats what it tells you.

show some repect, sure we havent had much success in this tournament but our time will come.

[benfica066]

STFU

Sporting is the pride of the CL, hell they invented the CL practically for us.

first CL 1955/56-> invitation only...spoting wasnt the champion but they still invited us. what does that tell you? they created this tournment for clubs such as Sporting thats what it tells you.

show some repect, sure we havent had much success in this tournament but our time will come.
i do have respect 4 sporting just not in the Cl and your success past the group stages will come (1DAY) just like benfica will become european champions again

[Bossanova]

When I said Portuguese players play with heart, I meant Porto portuguese players.

They are different to the usual primadonnas, because we usually only produce defensive players...

[mhrelayyan]

surprise defeat for porto at home

[Simaofan-20]

When I said Portuguese players play with heart, I meant Porto portuguese players.

They are different to the usual primadonnas, because we usually only produce defensive players...
Ya with your 3 Portuguese players ! Congratulations Bossa lol

[SCP-87]

http://www.automobilsport.com/upload/superleague-formula-2008/porto-superleague2.jpg

lulzizzoll port FC gurls like to Sux DIX

[Simaofan-20]

Sporting is the pride of the CL, did you know Sporting played in the first CL match ever in 1956?

Shaktar better STFU they are noobs, Sporting was the first club to set foot on a CL pitch (game was at estadio nacional)
You played the first game but lost lol

[Bossanova]

Ya with your 3 Portuguese players ! Congratulations Bossa lol

Thats why I want more :rolleyes:

BTW, how many have Benfica got? Not many more.

[Tiote24]

It has depressed me for a while, but in particular this season, the lack of Portuguese players we have.

I know Portuguese players might not be the best right now, but they play with heart.

Look at Meireles, he's pretty average, but one of our best mids cos of his attitude.

I say get rid of half the south americans we got there and play some Portuguese kids. Vieirinha would do better than most of those guys out there today...
I know what you mean, its nice to have good set of homegrown or even home-born players. I know Taylor is like that with us, we admire how much he tries and his shirt throwing antics after games.

Would you blame the Youth Academy? I mean I don't know of the history of this league. But it seems like Sporting produce the most young talent.

[Simaofan-20]

Thats why I want more :rolleyes:

BTW, how many have Benfica got? Not many more.
Moreira,Quim,Makukula,Nuno Gomes,Ruben Amorim,Jorge Ribeiro,Carlos Martins, and Miguel Vitor

Porto Rolando,Nuno , Bruno Alves, Raul Merieles and Pele

[Hurley]

Yah he started it but its not like you're even in a bad position. The season just started and you're team is in first. What in the world is there to be complaining about. Not to mention he's winning you sissies titles and you still have room to complain its ******* pathetic. Thats all Portuguese mostly like to do just complain even when theres winning involved. Everyone complained abotu Scolari and what for?Winning games isn't enough anymore it seems for us and its ******* PATHETIC. Who cares if Jesualdo wasn't loved when he came to Porto,he's still geetting the job done. Hell even you said he was great with Braga and now he sucks because he wins?

You guys mostly are ****ed, you guys want guarentees and always expect crap. Its really stupid to complain like I've said soooooo many times . What the hell more do you want really?You look so stupid complaining about him . Europe we're not going to win no Portuguese team will ever win again so ******* face it you faggot. I'd rather be a fat ass than a 40yo pedophile like yourself so **** off

what are you talking about? what games?

and a 40yo pedophile at least gets some pussy.

[Simaofan-20]

what are you talking about? what games?

and a 40yo pedophile at least gets some pussy.
So Porto never won 2 Ligas under Jesualdo? Isn't that winning games?Or am I lying now?

[Sogav]

Moreira,Quim,Makukula,Nuno Gomes,Ruben Amorim,Jorge Ribeiro,Carlos Martins, and Miguel Vitor

Porto Rolando,Nuno , Bruno Alves, Raul Merieles and Pele

Thought I'd fix this...

Hugo Ventura, Nuno, Bruno Alves, Pedro Emanuel, Rolando, Tengarrinha, Raul Meireles, Pele, Candeias & Rabiola

10 for Porto
8 for Benfica

If we were to include players that are currently on loan from both teams, Porto have a whole lot more...

[NoNameBoys]

http://www.automobilsport.com/upload/superleague-formula-2008/porto-superleague2.jpg

lulzizzoll port FC gurls like to Sux DIX

So tempting to sleep with those portistas:rolleyes:

[Simaofan-20]

Thought I'd fix this...

Hugo Ventura, Nuno, Bruno Alves, Pedro Emanuel, Rolando, Tengarrinha, Raul Meireles, Pele, Candeias & Rabiola

10 for Porto
8 for Benfica

If we were to include players that are currently on loan from both teams, Porto have a whole lot more...
Thsoe are YOUTH players that don't actually count towards the squad. Come on do you honestly think those kids play?Oh Pedro Emanuel is ANGOLAN not Portuguese

[Bossanova]

They are not youth team players.

Ventura was on the bench vs Kiev, and has played before.

Rabiola hasn't played cos hes been injured 6 months, but he is on our A squad.

Tengarrinha is a b-team player thats true, but he was on the bench vs Sertanense, and will soon get some minutes IMO

[Tiote24]

Who are Portos most successful academy lads?

[Sogav]

Thsoe are YOUTH players that don't actually count towards the squad. Come on do you honestly think those kids play?Oh Pedro Emanuel is ANGOLAN not Portuguese

?

They have been on Porto's bench at times this season.

PE is Angolan, you're correct - congrats. My gift to you, I'm sure you'll enjoy...

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7998/capt8ea9ad13f1864fd2bf6tq4.jpg

FCP & SLB should learn from SCP, Sporting have a squad full of Portuguese and actually utilize their Portuguese youth.

[Simaofan-20]

They are not youth team players.

Ventura was on the bench vs Kiev, and has played before.

Rabiola hasn't played cos hes been injured 6 months, but he is on our A squad.

Tengarrinha is a b-team player thats true, but he was on the bench vs Sertanense, and will soon get some minutes IMO
You have to have a certain amount of youth team players on the bench for CL games though thats the thing. Those guys will never play and will be loaned out at January 99.9% chance of it happening.

Come on Ventura has as good enough chance at playing as Moretto does. Rabiola wont play with better strikers ahead of him already. Hell Hulk barely plays don't you think Rabiola will play ahead of him?lol

[equinox24]

JF is fail.

I have not liked this Porto squad one bit this year, starting with JF, still thought we should have brought in someone new before the season started.

[Simaofan-20]

Hmm he's fail because he's in first place and won 2 ligas....interesting

[equinox24]

Hmm he's fail because he's in first place and won 2 ligas....interesting

Yes, but this pre-season there were some changes and JF and it would of been good to change our manager, he was only brought in because no one else was available and Porto had a good squad, not to mention the league was pretty poor those two seasons. JF is not a good manager.

[Simaofan-20]

Wins are wins

[equinox24]

Wins are wins

Kiev.

[SCP-87]

JF is pretty gud y u guys hate em?

he invented SC Braga basically, before JF who was baraga anywayz? a mortal kombat character? lOL

n e wayz port fc is in teh first place this is tru but port fc is only 2 points ahead of Sporting Club and Benefica FC so it is by no means a comforting presense at the top of the tabel

[Bossanova]

Who are Portos most successful academy lads?

erm...:s


Carvalho :S

[Lisandro]

Wins are wins

you and i could have coached porto last 3 seasons with bos rq27 and company:nod

[Tiote24]

erm...:s


Carvalho :S

Is that all even in like say last 10 years?

I mean even we've had the likes of Watson,Clarke,Shearer(Strictly speaking)Chopra, Taylor Harper.

[Hurley]

Alves, Postiga, Tonel, Ricardo Costa (Wolfsburg), Paulo Machado (on loan at St Etienne)

[Simaofan-20]

Didn't Ricardo Costa come from Boavista youth teams

[grassman]

1-0 Leixoes atm:ninja

[nicodemus]

2-0

:devil

[grassman]

Leixoes have a clear goal disallowed :censored
2-2 atm

[grassman]

GOLO!!!!!!!11one
3-2 Leixoes :clap:clap:clap
Should be 4-2:Knob

[benfica066]

GOLO!!!!!!!11one
3-2 Leixoes :clap:clap:clap
Should be 4-2:Knob
should be 4-1 soft penalty

[grassman]

Leixoes Campeoes 08-09 :ninja

[Hurley]

sack this bitch

[Simaofan-20]

Nah keep him as manager I like Jesualdo :)

[Bossanova]

Its time to get the benfiquista out...

[benfica066]

Its time to get the benfiquista out...
and get ramos

[Bossanova]

and get ramos

He'd win the league at Porto.

but too much $$

[Bossanova]

Anyway I hate the way JF always says he doesn't want boos, Lisandro last night said "Of course the fans can boo, they pay for their tickets, they can do what they want"

Thats the fcking attitude JF should have, dumb bastard

[dixie]

He'd win the league at Porto.

but too much $$

he can afford a pay cut after his £10m pay off.

[Bossanova]

I'm not sure he'd enjoy the £400,000 a year wages we'd offer :ninja

[Hurley]

oh please, Benfica can pay a lot more than that if they've been able to afford Quique, Koeman, Camacho, Trap, Heynckes, etc.

We should too, we just have a policy of lower-profile coaches.

anyways, I know I wouldn't pay anything for this shit:

Win %

Tottenham Hotspur 39.29
Sevilla 56.39
Málaga 39.47
Espanyol 0
Real Betis 39.47
Rayo Vallecano 37.29
Lleida 42.86
Barcelona B 18.42
Logroñés 52.63
Levante 52.27
Alcoyano 31.58

[Bossanova]

lol

I think Pekerman would be a decent shout.