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Schwalker
Mar 3 2008, 05:37 PM
Being a rather sentimental fool I looked thru some old collectors album I bought some years ago (I´m cleaning out the attic..or supposed to anyway) and was struck by how many teams some unlucky fellow used to collect, and how several of them have fallen from grace.

Bayer Uerdingen...:ninja

Eintracht Braunschweig...:rolleyes:

TeBe Berlin...:laugh

FC Saarbrücken...:handbags

Fortuna Köln...:laugh


All mid 70´s Bundesliga clubs...all gone now, no wonder I got the albums for almost nothing but I still like to have a look at them now and then.
I never collected stuff as a kid myself...does anyone here collect football memorabilia of some odd kind?

matrix666777
Mar 3 2008, 05:55 PM
I can add Magdeburg....European Cup Winners Cup 1974 and I think finalist some years later.

Valmiki
Mar 3 2008, 06:04 PM
I remember Uerdingen, especially in the 80's. They had Herget and Fach who played for the NT.

So what's the story, why did Bayer pull the plug??? The new name is KFC, hopefully that does not mean Kentucky Fried Chicken??:laugh:laugh

I remember Dusseldorf too from since the 70's --- Allofs and the rest. Dusseldorf is a major city and a big stadium, hope they make it back to the BL.

I use to collect neswpaper clippings, pictures, articles etc. I am sure if I dig up somewhere in my old bedroom at my parent's house, I will find something. I remember cutting out squads of the mannschaft etc.
Now I only collect jerseys and caps.

Al_the drummer
Mar 3 2008, 06:10 PM
In those wonderful days before bills and testicles I used to collect football stickers which most kids at school did as they were like currently on the playground, buying, selling, swapping, it was a functional market economy. Anyway I have two completed albums, 93-94/94-95 seasons which I consider valuable items as the players were like heroes back then and not the millionaire wag busting playboys of today. Amongst the teams were Barnsley, Wimbledon (who no longer exist), and QPR (Div 2), sorry but I am English. Personally I like to throw everything associated with the past away but I couldn't do those footie albums and also they will be worth a fortune in years to come. The last one I did was the Euro 96 album when I was 13/14 or so, I'll never forget that summer, football every day after school and then again in the evening after dinner, boundless energy, playful mischief....

Now look what you've done.

Mertesacker
Mar 3 2008, 07:21 PM
I kinda miss Mannheim. They had some of the most notorious hooligans of Germany.
They will suffer even worse when little Hoffenheim gets promoted this season. Yuck.

Also Saarbrücken could use a team. The Saarland is one of the most forgotten areas in Germany but on the other hand I guess a lot of folks from Saarbrücken and the Mannheim area follow Kaiserslautern, it's only 40 minutes away.

Still, the region around Mannheim is highly populated and would support a Bundesliga team very well. Mannheim alone is the 2nd biggest city in Baden-Württemberg and it's sister-city Ludwigshafen on the other side has a population of over 160.000 as well.

I guess Hopp hopes all those people and those around Heidelberg will start supporting Hoffenheim.

I highly doubt that.

iowaplasticpaddy
Mar 3 2008, 08:31 PM
don't forget Ulm, not the strongest of histories, only made it to the Bundesliga for one season, but by 2002 were playing in the Verbandsliga Württemberg (5th tier!). but now playing in the Oberliga Baden-Württemberg (4th tier)

And BFC Dynamo Berlin. 10 East German league titles....in a row. obviously a stasi run club, so cheated. but then after Wiedervereinigung (reunification) would eventually fall to the fifth tier, and now play in the fourth tier

now the question is, who's next to fall from grace? FC Kaiserslautern on on the verge of a complete fall, but who's next from the Bundesliga? My money is on Cottbus, or if the get promoted, Hoffenheim. Hopp can't live for ever!

I don't really collect much for american sports when i was into it. but i did used to buy alot of baseball hats of different teams.

Schwalker
Mar 3 2008, 08:57 PM
Valmiki....Bayer closed down their production line in Üerdingen and sort of released the team from the Bayer family, it was the luck of Bayer Leverkusen though as they suddenly got Uerdingens share of the Bayer money, before that Leverkusen was nothing.

Al...The "jumpers as goalposts" nostalgia is a wonderful thing :D, but you are right, it was a market economy par excellence...up to ten ordinary players for a star name usw.

Merte...How far is it between Sinsheim and Mannheim?

iowaplasticpaddy
Mar 3 2008, 09:00 PM
Merte...How far is it between Sinsheim and Mannheim?i know it's not directed at me but....
32 minutes. i remember we drove by Sinsheim from Heidelberg on our way to Neuschwanstein. i remember there was an Airplane museum there

Schwalker
Mar 3 2008, 09:07 PM
now the question is, who's next to fall from grace? FC Kaiserslautern on on the verge of a complete fall, but who's next from the Bundesliga? My money is on Cottbus...


The thing is that German clubs because of our strict financial rules are not hitting a downward spiral just because they are relegated, it takes a prolonged effort from really bad managers....:D

Nürnberg is a possibility but I can´t really see it happen.

Michael_Melka
Mar 3 2008, 09:32 PM
The Sportwelt-crash ruined a lot of clubs like Fortuna, Dresden and RWE.
Even today these clubs have to pay for it.

Borussia Wolf
Mar 3 2008, 09:43 PM
What about Wattenscheid, think they are Oberliga now.

Schwalker
Mar 3 2008, 10:08 PM
Double post...

Well, no reason to waste a perfectly good double post.

http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Drunk%20Owned.jpg

Schwalker
Mar 3 2008, 10:08 PM
What about Wattenscheid, think they are Oberliga now.

Aaah..the forgotten Bochum club, but they are actually worse off then you guessed. Verbandsliga Westfalen 2 :ninja


Tasmania Berlin..?
Whatever happened to them?

iowaplasticpaddy
Mar 3 2008, 10:16 PM
Aaah..the forgotten Bochum club, but they are actually worse off then you guessed. Verbandsliga Westfalen 2 :ninja


Tasmania Berlin..?
Whatever happened to them?just read up on them. a few years after the bundesliga 2 years, went completely bankrupt. reformed in the kreisliga C, and now are in the relegation zone of the Verbandesliga Berlin as Tasmania Berlin-Gropiusstadt

http://www.abseits-soccer.com/clubs/tasmania.html

Distant Voices
Mar 4 2008, 01:00 AM
Fortuna Dusseldorf were the first "casual" dressed fans in Germany in the 1970s

Didn't Bierhoff start at Uerdingen?

Valmiki
Mar 4 2008, 01:19 AM
Fortuna Dusseldorf were the first "casual" dressed fans in Germany in the 1970s

Didn't Bierhoff start at Uerdingen?

Correct -- I just checked wikipedia

Borussia Wolf
Mar 4 2008, 10:36 AM
Even before Uerdigen, Bierhoff played for Schwarz-Weiss Essen (same club that discovered Jens Lehmann), another team that has disappeared, although they are near the top of the Oberliga at the moment and could make it into the new 3. Liga next season.