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Jere Markus
Feb 28 2008, 10:01 AM
I was watching the DFB cup match BM-1860 last night and it was disgusting in the end. I have been fan of Ribery for few years now as I follow French league every week and he is a great player. But what happened in that match really made me think Ribery is a :Knob

In overtime there is a shuffle after the whistle and 1860 player pushes lightly Ribery on the chest. Frank throws himself in the air, makes a backwards sommersault and then lies on the ground for two minutes holding his face like he was punched in the face. :rolleyes:

Red card for 1860. Disgrace Ribery.

Also the ref gave pen to BM in the last minute of overtime for a foul that was not in the box. I also did not see one free kick given to 1860 in overtime. It seemed the ref had decided BM must win in overtime. This is the reason normal fans dislike BM.. the refs.. :handbags

Borussia Wolf
Feb 28 2008, 10:33 AM
The 1860 player should have been sent off, no question, as he shoved Riberry. Ribery made a fool of himself by play acting and has seriously damaged his reputation.

Ban him - a couple of games - preferably in the DFB Pokal so he misses the final. That'll teach the cheating swine.

Jere Markus
Feb 28 2008, 11:32 AM
I agree that 1860 deserved the card, the push was stupid and a card was accurate from the ref. What I dont like was Ribery going down like shot, aka Dida. It does not belong to a football match. No to Dida, no to Ribery.

matrix666777
Feb 28 2008, 12:29 PM
Football is disgusting now...
Cannot imagine players 30 years ago (for example Breitner) doing this kind of things...
Now people adore players like C.Ronaldo, Quaresma and Ribery that are just some ******* cheating millionaires...

Mertesacker
Feb 28 2008, 12:59 PM
OMG, hell is freezing over, I for once agree with matrix!!!

But you know what, there isn't even a discussion about the Ribéry thing or a public outcry which shows pretty well that nobody here cares enough about playacting, embellishing and diving.

It's sad.

-Orion-
Feb 28 2008, 01:24 PM
I think they care, but Ribery isn't a household name and isn't from a country that is necessarily famed for playacting (nor playing in a league that is necessarily famed for playacting) so it doesn't make as good a story

If it had been a Portuguese or an Italian or a Spaniard playing in those respective leagues - or anyone playing in the Premier League due to the attention it gets - then everyone would be talking about it

But this is a French guy (ok so the French do have the diving bug well, but not known for it as much) in the German league, furthermore it's a French guy who isn't much of a celebrity, largely because of the huge scar on his face, he's always been seen as humble so it's harder to demonize him in the press... just wait till Cristiano Ronaldo dares to go to ground or Robinho complains to a referee and you'll have a week's worth of headlines

Anyway, as has been said, both should be banned

iowaplasticpaddy
Feb 28 2008, 02:40 PM
dida's was worse though cause he ran after the guy that tapped him, the fell and was carried off the pitch.

but ribery's acting was still digusting.
1 match ban i think

Mertesacker
Feb 28 2008, 02:40 PM
I was obviously talking about a public outcry here in Germany only -Orion- because it's the DFB or DFL that should punish Ribery, I don't think anyone outside Germany even watched the game.

mirror
Feb 28 2008, 02:44 PM
"acting" happens all the time on the pitch. C.Ronaldo is even better at acting, but most people only remember his dribbling and his breaking through. So don't be so serious.

Speaking of the ref, does everybody here think he was partial to FCB???
He owned FCB a penalty at 90min(It was definitely a foul, Schwarz hit Lucio on the face with his arm and blocked Lucio‘s attacking!), and gave it back in 30 minutes later, which consumed much physical strength of FCB players.

Mertesacker
Feb 28 2008, 03:02 PM
"acting" happens all the time on the pitch. C.Ronaldo is even better at acting, but most people only remember his dribbling and his breaking through.
Don't agree. I think he's even more infamous for his dives than his goals.

does everybody here think he was partial to FCB???

Who said that?

Bayern deserved to win. The foul on Lucio was a foul.

Still, that acting job by Ribéry was disgracefull.
To me dives, playacting, embellishing and unsportmanlike behaviour are the biggest problems in football and I'm mad that it seems like nothing ever gets done about it.

Red_ef
Feb 28 2008, 03:29 PM
Don't agree. I think he's even more infamous for his dives than his goals.



Who said that?

Bayern deserved to win. The foul on Lucio was a foul.

Still, that acting job by Ribéry was disgracefull.
To me dives, playacting, embellishing and unsportmanlike behaviour are the biggest problems in football and I'm mad that it seems like nothing ever gets done about it.

Bollocks, Ronaldo doesn't dive as much you lot think he does. there are worse divers in the PL *cough*Gerrard*cough*. but the English media always seems to make a big deal of him diving when they completly ignore it when some other player does it ABU ****s! Ronaldo has scored 29 goals from the wing and is the best player in the world ATM like it or not and that's what he is famous for not diving.

poeple are making a big deal about Ribery's dive yeah sure he might have over-reacted and i didn't like it but i doubt he will get a ban for it

matrix666777
Feb 28 2008, 03:32 PM
As long as there's so much money it's business and not sport...
And it seems no one is interested to have less money...so it will stay like this until people will not pay anymore because it will be only business ****...

matrix666777
Feb 28 2008, 03:33 PM
Bollocks, Ronaldo doesn't dive as much you lot think he does. there are worse divers in the PL *cough*Gerrard*cough*. but the English media always seems to make a big deal of him diving when they completly ignore it when some other player does it ABU ****s! Ronaldo has scored 29 goals from the wing and is the best player in the world ATM like it or not and that's what he is famous for not diving.

poeple are making a big deal about Ribery's dive yeah sure he might have over-reacted and i didn't like it but i doubt he will get a ban for it

Nowadays it seems people cannot tell the truth anymore....over-reacted????
he was ******* cheating...not over-reacting....

Red_ef
Feb 28 2008, 03:37 PM
Nowadays it seems people cannot tell the truth anymore....over-reacted????
he was ******* cheating...not over-reacting....

not exactly cheating, the other player was going to get sent off anyway...Ribery just made sure he did!! again i thought it was pathetic but i doubt he will get a ban

matrix666777
Feb 28 2008, 03:51 PM
Not exactly cheating???
No surprise it's normal now to do it...people do not call it cheating anymore....
What exactly do you call cheating???

Mertesacker
Feb 28 2008, 04:07 PM
not exactly cheating, the other player was going to get sent off anyway...Ribery just made sure he did!! again i thought it was pathetic but i doubt he will get a ban

What a ****ed up attitude...

Red_ef
Feb 28 2008, 04:14 PM
Not exactly cheating???
No surprise it's normal now to do it...people do not call it cheating anymore....
What exactly do you call cheating???

well cheating would be if had fallen down without being hit. in this case he was pushed and over-reacted, hence he wasn't cheating

mirror
Feb 28 2008, 04:22 PM
Don't agree. I think he's even more infamous for his dives than his goals..

Well, maybe it's because people around me are mostly ManU fans. I'm used to their over-praise of C.Ronaldo and think it to be a very common point of view around fans.


Who said that?

Bayern deserved to win. The foul on Lucio was a foul.


Many people really think so, except you.;)

Red_ef
Feb 28 2008, 06:18 PM
Well, maybe it's because people around me are mostly ManU fans. I'm used to their over-praise of C.Ronaldo and think it to be a very common point of view around fans.


he simply is the best in the world ATM

The Southern Dandy
Feb 28 2008, 06:23 PM
He won't get banned because he plays for Bayern Munich. If Ribery played for Schalke, Bremen, Hamburg, Hertha, Hannover or any club besides Bayern Munich, he would be banned for the play acting.

Charos
Feb 28 2008, 06:23 PM
well cheating would be if had fallen down without being hit. in this case he was pushed and over-reacted, hence he wasn't cheating

Ribery got a small push in the chest and he was holding his FACE for minutes. Anybody remember Rivaldo doing the same thing? Holding a body part that was not at all involved in the event. :rolleyes:

If that is not cheating, what is?

Timonator
Feb 28 2008, 06:32 PM
@Red_ef: Everyone's entitled to their opinion. You cannot force your opinion on other people.

Ribery's acting should be punished, but like Merte says there isnt even a discussion about this incident in Germany.

Mertesacker
Feb 28 2008, 07:08 PM
He won't get banned because he plays for Bayern Munich. If Ribery played for Schalke, Bremen, Hamburg, Hertha, Hannover or any club besides Bayern Munich, he would be banned for the play acting.

No he wouldn't.

Similar stuff is happening every week. Mahdavikia didn't get banned, neither did Naldo or Streit.

You just have to look at all the penalties that are awarded, almost half of them were dives but somehow nobody seems to care.
I just don't get this attitude.

Simaofan-20
Feb 28 2008, 07:15 PM
That push was a red card?LOL

Valmiki
Feb 28 2008, 08:42 PM
I was obviously talking about a public outcry here in Germany only -Orion- because it's the DFB or DFL that should punish Ribery, I don't think anyone outside Germany even watched the game.

The game was shown on ESPN International, so many in the western hemisphere would have seen it including me. But I have seen many similar instances like that in other leagues where players are willing to get a player sent off --- its a problem in world football

VanDerVaart
Feb 28 2008, 10:11 PM
He won't get banned because he plays for Bayern Munich. If Ribery played for Schalke, Bremen, Hamburg, Hertha, Hannover or any club besides Bayern Munich, he would be banned for the play acting.
Dude, Bommel I think will be banned for 3 games for what he has done 2 games ago. Anyways like it was already stated, the foul on Lucio should have counted which it didn't, and we deserved to win the match. I agree what Ribery was disguisting, but it's simply laughable how people take it completely out of proportion.

Mert, did you put below your name Dida is a c#nt or C. Ronaldo, Quaresma, or others before that do diving a lot? .. Why the hell do it for Ribery, simply because he's in the Bundesliga, or more importantly plays for Bayern? I don't see your hating on Diego since he dives EVERY time there is little contact which is f***ing pathetic, much more than one-time Ribery.

Don't agree. I think he's even more infamous for his dives than his goals.
Yes, I definitely see MUCH more people talking about his diving that his completely dominant goal scoring form which is making headlines every week. :rolleyes:


That push was a red card?LOL

The push was a yellow, which was his second. Few would disagree here, even Bayern haters I think.


Also the ref gave pen to BM in the last minute of overtime for a foul that was not in the box. I also did not see one free kick given to 1860 in overtime. It seemed the ref had decided BM must win in overtime. This is the reason normal fans dislike BM.. the refs.. :handbags

And also Lucio's penalty which did not count, why don't you mention this little fact? I love the way people pick some things, then leave out the rest just so they can make their statement make any sense whatsoever. Maybe you didn't see a free kick because Bayern were completely man handling them in extra time and started to attack more? That COULD be a reason. Your last sentence is also incredibly laughable because of how many times we have been screwed. Goals not counted vs Hamburg in 2 games, Bremen, and unbelievable offsides which could have easily given us goals. Of coarse, you only "try" to look at the bad things.


Now people adore players like C.Ronaldo, Quaresma and Ribery that are just some ******* cheating millionaires...

Ronaldo and Quaresma may dive, but they play some of the best football in the world with the most flair, which shouldn't be a fooking suprise why people like watching them. Ribery dived ONE TIME, you're making it seem like he's always been a diving cheat which has definitely not been the case, especially since he came at Bayern. Stop exaggerating so damn much.

Mertesacker
Feb 28 2008, 10:31 PM
Mert, did you put below your name Dida is a c#nt or C. Ronaldo, Quaresma, or others before that do diving a lot? .. Why the hell do it for Ribery, simply because he's in the Bundesliga.

Exactly. I did put it up because that's what matters to me right now, I don't care about Dida or Ronaldo, I never watch ManU or Milan.
Tomorrow I might put up something else when something new catches my interest.

Ronaldo and Quaresma may dive, but they play some of the best football in the world with the most flair, which shouldn't be a fooking suprise why people like watching them.

I don't dispute that, still the dives makes it ******* inpossible rooting for or respecting them.

Ryan Giggs never felt the need to dive and he was easily as dominating as Ronaldo now in his prime.

VanDerVaart
Feb 28 2008, 10:35 PM
The thing is, MANY people don't care about diving as much as you or matrix do. I personally HATE the way Toni falls and whines throughout the whole game, but I deal with it, and still respect him since he's one of the best strikers in the planet. Believe it or not, I have even seen Pirlo dive and the guy is absolute class, still respect him A LOT.

Mertesacker
Feb 28 2008, 10:42 PM
The thing is, MANY people don't care about diving as much as you or matrix do.

That exactly what makes me so mad.

matrix666777
Feb 28 2008, 11:06 PM
Football is a TEAM sport...and I wanna see team spirit and fighting...not individuals playing with flair...
I have said it before...if you like players that play with flair (Quaresma or C.Ronaldo) and cheat all the time....better support Portugal

Simaofan-20
Feb 29 2008, 03:12 AM
Football is a TEAM sport...and I wanna see team spirit and fighting...not individuals playing with flair...
I have said it before...if you like players that play with flair (Quaresma or C.Ronaldo) and cheat all the time....better support Portugal
lol Pathetic post there

VanDerVaart
Feb 29 2008, 03:34 AM
Football is a TEAM sport...and I wanna see team spirit and fighting...not individuals playing with flair...
I have said it before...if you like players that play with flair (Quaresma or C.Ronaldo) and cheat all the time....better support Portugal
OK? That's the problem! What you want to SEE is much different than what most of the world wants to see. People would rather see flair players that simply team spirit/fighting from a less technical side. I for one, love seeing all types, including watching players like Ronnie and Ricardo playing, they are what makes the game so much more beautiful to watch! If you can't accept that me and most people in the world like watching flair players, not my problem, nor will I try to convince you.

Timonator
Feb 29 2008, 03:46 AM
well i dont belong to those people to be honest. I'm fan of players like Frings, Gattuso and Hitzlsperger. Those type of player fascinate me more than tricky-ponys like C. Ronaldo.

I might add that i m not saying Ronaldo is a bad player. Not at all, i know he's arguably the best player in the world right now, but that doesnt change the fact that i like to watch other players more.

Football is a TEAM sport...and I wanna see team spirit and fighting...not individuals playing with flair...

I concur.

FCBM Chris
Feb 29 2008, 04:27 AM
how often do you see players like Frings Hitz etc being blocked out of a game? players like Ronaldo Quaresma etc do not do ******* **** on defense.. hell when man u went a man down against Roma last year in the CL guess who played defense? ******* WAYNE ROONEY. that's ******* sad. i'd rather have Ballack than a Ronaldo to be honest with you. Ballack busts his ass both ways. Ribery is another one of those types. how many times have we seen him lead it from box to box? plenty.. that's why i think Ribery is even better than Ronaldo Quaresma etc. he's complete.

VanDerVaart
Feb 29 2008, 04:37 AM
I'm saying "most of the world" likes to watch flair players because they make the game exciting when you watch. I wasn't talking what is more effective and complete. I understand people like Timo/Chris wanting team spirit over flair, and other side of football who may prefer flair over team spirit. Hell, I love watching Frings and Hitz play, I like watching it from both sides, maybe flair a wee bit more for me. Matrix got way too emotional into this as did many people about the Ribery thing though. He did it once and while it was completely disgraceful and embarrassing, he's not a diver or a cheat until he does it consistently which he hasn't. Simple as that!

matrix666777
Feb 29 2008, 10:39 AM
I guess Timo said the same as thing as me....so I don't see why you don't understand me...