Is Farias the "Real Deal"?

[Madjer87]

In watching Porto thrash Leiria today, I'm beginning to think this Farias kid is something special. He's been playing out of his mind the last few games. What do you guys think of this guy?

Btw..He's scored another brace today, and it looks like he should have had a hat trick as the 1st goal seemed to be deflected off him as well..:clap

[Simaofan-20]

It's Leiria.....

[Madjer87]

It's Leiria.....

If I remember correctly, and most of the time I do, Benfica had to come from behind to beat Leiria this year! You didn't seem to run rampant on them like Porto did today. Nuno actually scored 2 goals in that game, so you KNOW they must be terrible!!!!! :laugh

[Hurley]

this Farias kid?

[C.Ronaldo 7]

this Farias kid?

hes like 27 or 28 years old isnt he

[Madjer87]

hes like 27 or 28 years old isnt he

I'm 32, so he's a kid to me, but maybe not so much for you guys..:laugh

[SCP-87]

Madjer8Benfica had to come from behind to beat Leiria this[/B] year! You 7;2775145]If I remember correctly, and most of the time I do, didn't seem to run rampant on them like Porto did today. Nuno actually scored 2 goals in that game, so you KNOW they must be terrible!!!!! :laugh

clubs such as leiria are scum and deserve to be relegated and never return to the top flight. clubs like leiria, pacos, leixoes, etc play so much harder against Sporting or Benfica.. but when Porto comes they take a day off and choose to play their worst game of the season

and then when Porto plays Sporting they lose.

these clubs they bring the competition into disrepute always playing their worst games against porto they only show up to play against Sporting or Benfica.

clubs who actually try to play against Porto: Braga, Boavista, Belenenses, maybe Maritimo and nacional, Guimaraes and Setubal

all other clubs always lie down and let porto poudn them and they should be punished.

[Bossanova]

He looks absolute class.

3 goals in 140 minutes or something :cool

And SCP, stop chatting sh1t.

Leiria suck, they have won ONE game all season, therefore we beat them at home comfortably.

Unlike Sporting who only turn up once a month and then blame external reasons.

[Simaofan-20]

If I remember correctly, and most of the time I do, Benfica had to come from behind to beat Leiria this year! You didn't seem to run rampant on them like Porto did today. Nuno actually scored 2 goals in that game, so you KNOW they must be terrible!!!!! :laugh
I never said anything about Benfica dominating Lieria did i? Nope

Anyways its just one game. You really should pass judgment at the end of the year .

[nicodemus]

**** farias, Quaresmas back bitches!!!!!!!!

Amazing performance today, assisted both his goals.

[Bossanova]

Yep Quaresma played great.

Everyone did though to be honest.

Simaofan is right, we can't truly judge Farias yet.

However, in his last three appearances he has impressed. When he entered vs Braga he assisted and scored in 10 minutes.

Against Sporting he added life to our attack, and hit the bar.

And today he scored twice and was heavily involved in many plays.

He looks excellent frankly, a million miles better than Adriano anyway.

[Bossanova]

clubs such as leiria are scum and deserve to be relegated and never return to the top flight. clubs like leiria, pacos, leixoes, etc play so much harder against Sporting or Benfica.. but when Porto comes they take a day off and choose to play their worst game of the season

and then when Porto plays Sporting they lose.

these clubs they bring the competition into disrepute always playing their worst games against porto they only show up to play against Sporting or Benfica.

clubs who actually try to play against Porto: Braga, Boavista, Belenenses, maybe Maritimo and nacional, Guimaraes and Setubal

all other clubs always lie down and let porto poudn them and they should be punished.

Just to add to this ridiculous comment.

You mention 7 teams there that apparently actual turn up against us.

Add Sporting and Benfica that is 9.

You forget to mention Estrela de Amadora who we always struggle to beat, and came back from a 2-0 deficit to draw against us this season.

So thats 10.

Then we have failed to beat Pacos de Ferreira away for quite a while now, with Antunes scoring against us last season in a 1-1 draw.

It is a similar situation with Naval.

So thats 12.

Then you can't comment on Leixoes or Aves, as they are newly promoted.

So thats 14.

So who is left?

Academica and Leiria, the sides who are stuggling in the league.

Wow, great theory there einstein.

Funny how you don't mention the fact that Boavista generally roll over vs Sporting, but always make life difficult vs Porto.

Its just the way it is.

Same old Sporting. Always making excuses. :nod

[SCP-87]

Sporting 2-0 FC Porto

:laugh

[Simaofan-20]

Boss anyones better than Adriano lol

[Bossanova]

Boss anyones better than Adriano lol

Well he offers goals, but not much else if that makes sense.

If he plays, then he will score vs the less teams, but not offer any link up play or assists.

However, Farias looks to score AND offer link up play & assists.

We will see I guess.

[Bossanova]

Sporting 2-0 FC Porto

:laugh

And we didn't make excuses did we?

By the way, how many points are you behind us? I stopped counting at 10 :rolleyes:

[Madjer87]

If Farias turns out to be anything CLOSE to what he's shown the last few games, what a move by Porto to grab him. I mean, the Clausura is not a league for slouches and he averaged a goal every 2 games there so we'll see.

[La saeta rubia]

If Farias turns out to be anything CLOSE to what he's shown the last few games, what a move by Porto to grab him. I mean, the Clausura is not a league for slouches and he averaged a goal every 2 games there so we'll see.

Farias is a real goalscorer who has purple patches and then doent score in a while.Been In Europe recently and have taken to watching Portuguese futbol to see my old mates Lucho and Tecla.Porto are a decent side but my God the standard is terrible.The others are pathetic.I saw Benfica-National last evening and the famous Eagles are pathetic and Sporting the same.Farias will easily score 2 goals every 3 games.

[Bossanova]

Farias is a real goalscorer who has purple patches and then doent score in a while.Been In Europe recently and have taken to watching Portuguese futbol to see my old mates Lucho and Tecla.Porto are a decent side but my God the standard is terrible.The others are pathetic.I saw Benfica-National last evening and the famous Eagles are pathetic and Sporting the same.Farias will easily score 2 goals every 3 games.

:laugh

:bowing

Tell it like it is Saeta!

[nicodemus]

Cant really blame him for telling the truth.

Sporting rely on veloso and moutinho to do decently in midfield to get a chance game in game out, both who arnt much older then I am, which accounts for their hot and cold form.

Benfica, well, half our team is pure crap, and has no midfield or speed in attack.

Porto is the only one with a "luxery" of top quality players.

Quaresma
Bosingwa
Bruno Alves
Lucho
Lisandro
Assuncao
Farias
Fucile

Helder Barbosa is very promising, and now tarik is back from Africa.

If Benfica kept simao and miccoli, wed be so much better, but the difference is the quality of purchases and development..and porto has replensished their side superbly, while benfica did a horrible job restacking in talent to make immediate impact.

[La saeta rubia]

sorry didnt need to insult anyone.River my own club is in bad shape but compared to Sporting we are World beaters.I like Sporting because for me they are a small European River with a wonderful school of futbol but who sell their stars too soon.So ahat has been done with the money of selling these Ronaldos,Nanis etc not a lot judged by their futbol.As an old guy I was brought up hearing about this great Benfica club team from a small country with the wonderful Estado da Luz ,Eusebio,Coluna etc.To see this magnificent stadium with a Primera B team is sad.
There are lessons for us in this its a small brave Argentine club called Velez Sarsfield world champions in 94.Velez maintain the best kept stadium in my country and only sell their players when the WANT to sell them at the price they want to sell at.They dont have directors bought by agents money who are willing to bribe them to let their stars go at cut price.

[Madjer87]

sorry didnt need to insult anyone.River my own club is in bad shape but compared to Sporting we are World beaters.I like Sporting because for me they are a small European River with a wonderful school of futbol but who sell their stars too soon.So ahat has been done with the money of selling these Ronaldos,Nanis etc not a lot judged by their futbol.As an old guy I was brought up hearing about this great Benfica club team from a small country with the wonderful Estado da Luz ,Eusebio,Coluna etc.To see this magnificent stadium with a Primera B team is sad.
There are lessons for us in this its a small brave Argentine club called Velez Sarsfield world champions in 94.Velez maintain the best kept stadium in my country and only sell their players when the WANT to sell them at the price they want to sell at.They dont have directors bought by agents money who are willing to bribe them to let their stars go at cut price.

Please feel welcome to be open and honest with your opinions. No one is offended by your unbiased comments my man. Unless your portuguese and have a vested interest in a club, I can see why its very tough to just sit down with a beer and see a bwin liga team play. Quality of futebol is subpar to say the least.

[Madjer87]

Farias is a real goalscorer who has purple patches and then doent score in a while.Been In Europe recently and have taken to watching Portuguese futbol to see my old mates Lucho and Tecla.Porto are a decent side but my God the standard is terrible.The others are pathetic.I saw Benfica-National last evening and the famous Eagles are pathetic and Sporting the same.Farias will easily score 2 goals every 3 games.

I assume you live in Argentina, so what is the overall opinion of regular argentinian futebol fans when it comes to the Portuguese league? Or any Portuguese league teams in general (the big 3 at least) ?

Lisandro and Lucho should def be on the national team, is it because of playing in Portugal that they will never be called?

[Hurley]

sorry didnt need to insult anyone.River my own club is in bad shape but compared to Sporting we are World beaters.I like Sporting because for me they are a small European River with a wonderful school of futbol but who sell their stars too soon.So ahat has been done with the money of selling these Ronaldos,Nanis etc not a lot judged by their futbol.As an old guy I was brought up hearing about this great Benfica club team from a small country with the wonderful Estado da Luz ,Eusebio,Coluna etc.To see this magnificent stadium with a Primera B team is sad.
There are lessons for us in this its a small brave Argentine club called Velez Sarsfield world champions in 94.Velez maintain the best kept stadium in my country and only sell their players when the WANT to sell them at the price they want to sell at.They dont have directors bought by agents money who are willing to bribe them to let their stars go at cut price.

lol fo sho

[Hurley]

I assume you live in Argentina, so what is the overall opinion of regular argentinian futebol fans when it comes to the Portuguese league? Or any Portuguese league teams in general (the big 3 at least) ?

Lisandro and Lucho should def be on the national team, is it because of playing in Portugal that they will never be called?

Lucho already was at least 30 times..

[Madjer87]

Lucho already was at least 30 times..

I meant AGAIN Julio...Lisandro has never, and Lucho not in a year or so..

[Hurley]

yeah, but if he was called on at least 20 occasions whilst playing here, that can't be the problem, right? both Argentina and Brazil usually call players from lesser leagues.

and check your facts. don't know if he actually played, but I remember Lisandro being called about a year ago.

the competition is very tough for both anyway

[Madjer87]

yeah, but if he was called on at least 20 occasions whilst playing here, that can't be the problem, right? both Argentina and Brazil usually call players from lesser leagues.

and check your facts. don't know if he actually played, but I remember Lisandro being called about a year ago.

the competition is very tough for both anyway

I think you're right on Lisandro, he has been called up twice in 2005. My bad. My concern is that the portuguese league doesn't have the visibility, the longer you play in Portugal the more people forget about you unless you do well in CL. That was supposedly one of the reasons that Miccoli left for Italy again.

[Bossanova]

Lucho regularly makes the Argie NT, and even was a starter in front of Cambiasso in WC 2006, except that he got injured early into the opening game, and only returned vs Germany.

Lisandro has the likes of Aguero, Crespo, Tevez, J.Cruz and Messi to compete with.

Maybe he should be selected ahead of J.Cruz, but all the others are deeply loved in Argentina.

[hugetomatoes]

Farias is a real goalscorer who has purple patches and then doent score in a while.Been In Europe recently and have taken to watching Portuguese futbol to see my old mates Lucho and Tecla.Porto are a decent side but my God the standard is terrible.The others are pathetic.I saw Benfica-National last evening and the famous Eagles are pathetic and Sporting the same.Farias will easily score 2 goals every 3 games.

we have a pretty defensive league. Counter-attack is the best system to play when you manage a small team. There are only 3 big teams in portugal so it's pretty normal for teams not to score more than 1/2 goals per game. That doesn't mean it's easier to score in here, on the contrary.

i bet not many teams "park the bus" in front of the goal in the river stadium as they do at Luz, and we have an ex-top scorer of your league as starter.

[Simaofan-20]

Lucho regularly makes the Argie NT, and even was a starter in front of Cambiasso in WC 2006, except that he got injured early into the opening game, and only returned vs Germany.

Lisandro has the likes of Aguero, Crespo, Tevez, J.Cruz and Messi to compete with.

Maybe he should be selected ahead of J.Cruz, but all the others are deeply loved in Argentina.
Crespo isn't getting any younger, neither is Julio Cruz and Messi plays more along the wings now a days. Lisandro is good but I don't know if he is good enough to take on a starting 11 spot but for sure he is a good enough player to get a call...

If only Lisandro was uncapped got his pass for Portugal and played for us:ninja

[Bossanova]

If Lisandro could play for Portugal, then we would be unstoppable :o

[Simaofan-20]

If Lisandro could play for Portugal, then we would be unstoppable :o
Ugh I know! He's perfect or close to it the only problem is that it seems like he doesn't "Show up" in bigger games. But what is up with Liedson...is he ever going to play for us?

[Bossanova]

Lisandro scored vs Liverpool at Anfield, and has scored vs Benfica I'm pretty certain.

He has just failed to score vs Sporting that is all.

He does well enough in big games IMO. We can't expect him to score as frequently vs teams like Inter Milan as he does vs Leiria or someone.

[Simaofan-20]

Lisandro scored vs Liverpool at Anfield, and has scored vs Benfica I'm pretty certain.

He has just failed to score vs Sporting that is all.

He does well enough in big games IMO. We can't expect him to score as frequently vs teams like Inter Milan as he does vs Leiria or someone.
Hmm I don't think he has scored against Benfica.

When he came we shut Porto out both times that year,second year he was injured both times and last year I don't think he scored and this year was Quaresma but I'm not 100% sure

[Bossanova]

Hmm I don't think he has scored against Benfica.

When he came we shut Porto out both times that year,second year he was injured both times and last year I don't think he scored and this year was Quaresma but I'm not 100% sure

He scored last year when we won 3-2 I think.

edit: Yeah he did. He scored that flukey goal where Postiga shot and it deflected off Lisandro into the corner. The goal was given to Lisandro though.

[Simaofan-20]

He scored last year when we won 3-2 I think.

edit: Yeah he did. He scored that flukey goal where Postiga shot and it deflected off Lisandro into the corner. The goal was given to Lisandro though.
Ugh...oh ya now I remember thanks Bossa lol

[La saeta rubia]

:clapThank you for your kind welcome friends.A few answers Lucho was a regular international when at River playing the 2004 Copa America and 2006 qualifiers.I think his problem with the seleccion is not so much Portuguese futbol but the tecnico then jose pekerman now Alfio Basile who seems to think what we need behind Riquelme,Messi,Aguero and Teves is a very defensive minded midfield with Zanetti,Mascherano and Cambiasso.To be fair Lucho didnt do well in the Copa America.
Lisandro Lopez was a full Argentine international when at Racing but he has serious competition for an up front place with the above 3 plus Crespo,Cruz,Palacio and Denis ahead of him.
As For Argentine opinion of the Portuguese league it isnt that well known interest is really confined to Spain and Italy and then when an Argentine player makes it in Portugal,England,Germany Mexico or France it makes some news.But 90% of coverage is for the home league and seleccion.
Porto,Benfica and Sporting are big names anywhere futbol is discussed and are respected as big clubs so if the right opportunity comes to a player they will go there.Farias whose time in River was up had the chance to go Mexico but chose Porto.However with our economy rapidly improveing the home clubs will keep more of the best players if it continues but with over 1000 professionals abroad theres always more.

[Madjer87]

:clapThank you for your kind welcome friends.A few answers Lucho was a regular international when at River playing the 2004 Copa America and 2006 qualifiers.I think his problem with the seleccion is not so much Portuguese futbol but the tecnico then jose pekerman now Alfio Basile who seems to think what we need behind Riquelme,Messi,Aguero and Teves is a very defensive minded midfield with Zanetti,Mascherano and Cambiasso.To be fair Lucho didnt do well in the Copa America.
Lisandro Lopez was a full Argentine international when at Racing but he has serious competition for an up front place with the above 3 plus Crespo,Cruz,Palacio and Denis ahead of him.
As For Argentine opinion of the Portuguese league it isnt that well known interest is really confined to Spain and Italy and then when an Argentine player makes it in Portugal,England,Germany Mexico or France it makes some news.But 90% of coverage is for the home league and seleccion.
Porto,Benfica and Sporting are big names anywhere futbol is discussed and are respected as big clubs so if the right opportunity comes to a player they will go there.Farias whose time in River was up had the chance to go Mexico but chose Porto.However with our economy rapidly improveing the home clubs will keep more of the best players if it continues but with over 1000 professionals abroad theres always more.

Thanks for the insight! We all hope you stick around and give us an inside perspective of the argentinian league and what up and coming players we can keep an eye on.

What is your opinion of Bergessio?

[G_Postal]

Farias is a real goalscorer who has purple patches and then doent score in a while.Been In Europe recently and have taken to watching Portuguese futbol to see my old mates Lucho and Tecla.Porto are a decent side but my God the standard is terrible.The others are pathetic.I saw Benfica-National last evening and the famous Eagles are pathetic and Sporting the same.Farias will easily score 2 goals every 3 games.
lol thast brutal. but honest and true. but dont get so worked up. it doesnt mean your boys will have a good time. its ugly, not easy. we're the new calcio. everyone defends and defends and they get pretty good at it.

and just so you know, the only reason porto is decent today is because they had no shame on buying ref's on the 90's:cool

[Madjer87]

lol thast brutal. but honest and true. but dont get so worked up. it doesnt mean your boys will have a good time. its ugly, not easy. we're the new calcio. everyone defends and defends and they get pretty good at it.

and just so you know, the only reason porto is decent today is because they had no shame on buying ref's on the 90's:cool

Actually, Porto was so good in the 90's because:

1) Benfica almost went the way of Parmalat and nearly bankrupt and their president was too busy sailing in his little yacht "Lucky Me" and Toni was your coach way too many times.

2) Sporting is Sporting and can't get out of its own way

3) We had Jardel scoring 35 goals a season :laugh

[G_Postal]

yes. and...

4) buying refs

if your gonna tell a story tell it all not just your favourite parts

[La saeta rubia]

lol thast brutal. but honest and true. but dont get so worked up. it doesnt mean your boys will have a good time. its ugly, not easy. we're the new calcio. everyone defends and defends and they get pretty good at it.

and just so you know, the only reason porto is decent today is because they had no shame on buying ref's on the 90's:cool

You are right but I was disaponted to see such a great name as Benfica playing so sadly.Being honest i dont mind how our "boys" do(River ones excepted).Yes but to be fair Porto in the eigthies and this decade played some good futbol too.

[La saeta rubia]

Thanks for the insight! We all hope you stick around and give us an inside perspective of the argentinian league and what up and coming players we can keep an eye on.

What is your opinion of Bergessio?

Thanks Madjer I enjoyed his goal.The Argentine league is always brining up new players its what makes it exciting.For the Clausura 08 pibes to watch will be Alexis Sanchez 19 year old Chilean at River whose team mate the tiny Diego Buonanotte reminds many of Messi.Independiente have Patricio Rodriguez a kid of great talent who will have his first competitive games this tournament.
Bergessio at Racing was a very hard working if limited striker.More a work horse than regular goalscorer.He is i imagine by now a San Lorenzo player as is Andres Dalessandro.

[Madjer87]

Thanks Madjer I enjoyed his goal.The Argentine league is always brining up new players its what makes it exciting.For the Clausura 08 pibes to watch will be Alexis Sanchez 19 year old Chilean at River whose team mate the tiny Diego Buonanotte reminds many of Messi.Independiente have Patricio Rodriguez a kid of great talent who will have his first competitive games this tournament.
Bergessio at Racing was a very hard working if limited striker.More a work horse than regular goalscorer.He is i imagine by now a San Lorenzo player as is Andres Dalessandro.

2 names that I will keep my eye on then! Hopefully, so are the scouting departments of one of our "Big 3" as well. Secondly, with all of Porto's success the last 25yrs, what do you and the regular argentinian fan think of Porto? Do you consider us one of the elite clubs in Europe? In the top 10 at least?

[La saeta rubia]

2 names that I will keep my eye on then! Hopefully, so are the scouting departments of one of our "Big 3" as well. Secondly, with all of Porto's success the last 25yrs, what do you and the regular argentinian fan think of Porto? Do you consider us one of the elite clubs in Europe? In the top 10 at least?


To be honest the regular Argentine fan doesnt think much about anything but his own club.There are however those who take an interest in european futbol especially when Argentine players are involved so right now Inter,Atletico Madrid and Porto are watched with a certain interest.Spanish futbol is the most closely watched followed by Serie A.When it comes to the Champions league Porto is considered a big team, 2 time winner one of those this decade maybe still not with the certain glamour that surrounds Benfica.
As for me with the little i have seen Porto seem easily the best team in Portugal.To benefit the Argentines there, Lucho in particular it is important they at least reach the semi finals of the Champions.Lucho at River and in the seleccion played as an 8 for us a right sided midfielder but in Portugal he is much more central.This probably doesnt help his chances as Riquelme is the center of Basiles team with Zanetti in defensive mode or Maxi Rodriguez in attacking mode taking his old position.

[Hurley]

2 names that I will keep my eye on then! Hopefully, so are the scouting departments of one of our "Big 3" as well. Secondly, with all of Porto's success the last 25yrs, what do you and the regular argentinian fan think of Porto? Do you consider us one of the elite clubs in Europe? In the top 10 at least?

lol

why do you care?

[Bossanova]

Apparently we aren't big in Australia either :(

[Hurley]

I heard we're growing in the Philippines though.

[Bossanova]

I would trade one of our European Cups to be huge in the Phillipines.

That news has made me happy :)

[Simaofan-20]

lol Philipines lol

[Madjer87]

[quote=La saeta rubia;2777618]maybe still not with the certain glamour that surrounds Benfica.quote]

Uhhh..Have you seen Benfica actually play the last 15 years? And if you have, was it on a color television? :laugh

[Madjer87]

Farias just keeps chuggin' along with the goals, he's got great scoring ability with his head, hopefully a signing that will pan out long term...

[Simaofan-20]

He keeps playing well but its mostly against very weak teams so iunno. I'm certainly not saying hes bad he sure is playing well he's growing with confidence for sure

[Bossanova]

6 goals in 7 appearances I believe :cool

[Simaofan-20]

6 goals in 7 appearances I believe :cool
*looks at teams played against and laughs*

[Madjer87]

*looks at teams played against and laughs*


A ESTRELA: Farías (3,5)


Que dizer de um avançado que marca muitos golos? E se aos golos, esse mesmo avançado conseguir ainda acrescentar um grande espírito de sacrifício e uma enorme qualidade quando tem de jogar longe da área? Pois bem, só se pode elogiar. Esse avançado é Farias, que ontem voltou a ser o melhor em campo. Definitivamente, Jesualdo Ferreira descobriu, quase seis meses depois de ter começado a época, um verdadeiro goleador. Agora é só aproveitar.

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Nos últimos cincos jogos conseguiu marcar seis golos e só ficou em branco na visita a Alvalade, onde começou no banco de suplentes. Promete.

Clone


Pode parecer exagerado, mas Farías faz lembrar Lisandro, sobretudo no conteúdo. Marca golos e encara os jogos - mesmo o de ontem - como se não houvesse amanhã.

Also, your strikers can't score against uuuhhh..ANYONE! If LFV had signed Farigol, he would have been the "signing of the season".

[G_Postal]

nah he would have probably flopped with us

[Madjer87]

nah he would have probably flopped with us

Good point my man..You'd sell him to San Lorenzo or Pumas or wever..Fonseca hasn't done much since he's left SLB either huh? I guess not a bad dump and run job...:nod