Allofs looks at options...apparently!

[Schwalker]

Read what you like in it, but to me it looks like a warning to Bremen....:ninja

Manager Klaus Allofs vom Fußball-Bundesligisten Werder Bremen will sich einem Arbeitgeberwechsel grundsätzlich nicht verschließen. «Die Gespräche mit Werder Bremen stehen für mich an erster Stelle. Es geht aber immer darum, was man für sich selbst als den richtigen Weg sieht. Deshalb ist das auch keine prinzipielle Absage an andere Vereine», sagte Allofs der «Westdeutschen Zeitung» (Donnerstag-Ausgabe). Wenn man das dann als richtigen Schritt in der Karriere sehen würde, müsse man es machen, ergänzte Allofs, der auch mit dem FC Bayern München in Verbindung gebracht wird.
Der Ex-Nationalspieler schätzt seine Tätigkeit in Bremen weiter sehr. Dort seien «Verantwortung und Kompetenzen klar abgesteckt».
Konflikte könne man in Bremen auf ein Minimum reduzieren. Deshalb sei Bremen aber «kein Schlaraffenland wie vielleicht noch bei Otto Rehhagel». Als er und Trainer Thomas Schaaf begonnen hätten, lautete ihre Zielsetzung, «nicht zu einer Mannschaft der Namenlosen zu werden», so Allofs: «Wir wollen wahrgenommen werden, aber wir haben es immer geschafft, die Konflikte früh genug anzugehen und zu lösen

[Borussia Wolf]

Another one prepared to sell his soul I reckon. Bremen must be getting a bit cheesed off by now.

[The Southern Dandy]

I wish Hertha would use some of that 25 million we got and bring him in.

[Timonator]

If he leaves Bremen, they will sink like the Titanic and imo it will be extremely hard to stay on top of the table without him.

[Schwalker]

If he leaves Bremen, they will sink like the Titanic and imo it will be extremely hard to stay on top of the table without him.

One man doesn´t make the club...:ninja

[Al_the drummer]

Another one prepared to sell his soul I reckon.



You sure love this 'selling your soul' metaphor; I'm just trying to figure out how one would actually go about doing this. Borowski signs for Bremen and he's 'sold his soul', what, specifically, do you mean by this? If I've been working on the factory floor for 10 years shifting boxes and suddenly I'm offered a promotion to management, would I have also sold my soul simply because I'm offered something 'better'? Some people where I used to work would say yes but that's only because they envy success and are of limited intelligence and so therefore make it difficult for the successful in reaction. To recap then, it’s a stinking case of sour grapes, he doesn't owe Bremen shi*t.

[The Exchanger]

selling his soul??

id rather say: professional.. "i dont know the spelling" :D

[Borussia Wolf]

Where is the loyalty in football these days? Where are the players who play just for one club? The likes of Uwe Seeler, one of the best players in the world who only played for HSV (or Rahn at Rot Weiss Essen) where he was less likely to win major honours.

It's all about money (England is no better in this respect before you throw that in my face). Why is it that you are not considered to be a successful player in Germany these days if you haven't played for Bayern Munich.

Wouldn't it be refreshing if somebody (Klose, Allofs, Borowski or whoever!) said "I love playing at Bremen, I have an affinity with the club and the fans and Bayern can go forth and multiply."

But no, there is none of that these days.

That's what I mean by selling your soul

[Michael_Melka]

You sure love this 'selling your soul' metaphor; I'm just trying to figure out how one would actually go about doing this. Borowski signs for Bremen and he's 'sold his soul', what, specifically, do you mean by this? If I've been working on the factory floor for 10 years shifting boxes and suddenly I'm offered a promotion to management, would I have also sold my soul simply because I'm offered something 'better'? Some people where I used to work would say yes but that's only because they envy success and are of limited intelligence and so therefore make it difficult for the successful in reaction. To recap then, it’s a stinking case of sour grapes, he doesn't owe Bremen shi*t.

Totally agree.
It's called market economy and I would certainly do the same, if another company or club offers me a better perspective .

[matrix666777]

Too many people are putting the equality sign between sport and business...
I've not seen many people being fans of companies (although there are exceptions)...but I've seen a lot of sport fans.

[Borussia Wolf]

Agree with Matrix.

Football is not about economics or profit. It is about passion and emotion. Or at least it should be.

[Michael_Melka]

Blame the Bosman ruling. Since this case, there are only minor differences between "football" and "real" economy.

[Borussia Wolf]

Agree with that.

I don't know why the EU politicians don't make an extraordinary ruling for football. Every sensible person can see that this is ruining the sport, and its not as if footballers don't earn enough.

[The Exchanger]

face it.. u need to invest more in those clubs.. it doesnt matter wether they are local investors or foreginers.. if a millionaire is the owner of Werder Bremen then Borowski wont go to Bayern..

Bayern have more money than Werder.. thats why they signed Borowski..
how would u prevent this from happening again and again?? its simple.. allow investors.. there will be more competetion in the league.. i think its better than being one sided league for the coming 10 years and people cry when their best players leave for Bayern..

[The Exchanger]

its a fact that people always resist changes.. but thats the trend now im sorry guys.. sooner or later u'll allow investors by force "money rules"..

its not 80s and 90s anymore.. good old days "whatever u call it" will never come back.. thats the way football is now..

[matrix666777]

If you people see at at business why the **** are you fans of clubs????

[Timonator]

Agree with Matrix.

Football is not about economics or profit. It is about passion and emotion. Or at least it should be.

Blame the Bosman ruling. Since this case, there are only minor differences between "football" and "real" economy.

Agree with that.

I don't know why the EU politicians don't make an extraordinary ruling for football. Every sensible person can see that this is ruining the sport, and its not as if footballers don't earn enough.

If you people see at at business why the **** are you fans of clubs????

^^Absolutely agree with everything thats been said. This is football we are talking about. A SPORT. And i will resist to go the way of the EPL for as long as i can. I'm glad the DFL is not jumping on the bandwagon and allows investors. All this hype around money will kill the EPL someday, and then we are the ones who'll laugh. It wont end good if we go down that road imo. Here, it's still the fans sport and i m proud of that.

About loyalty, i also agree with you on that BWolf. I simply miss the kind of player who stayed at one club for his entire career. Those people were personalties and they are rare these days which is sad.



If I've been working on the factory floor for 10 years shifting boxes and suddenly I'm offered a promotion to management, would I have also sold my soul simply because I'm offered something 'better'?


I think there is a difference AL. If you you're shifting boxes 10 years you dont earn a lot I'd say...at least not as much as football player earn. They do earn a lot and are still not satisfied. With what they earn they might as well stay at the club and dont move to Bayern to earn 500k more!

[Al_the drummer]

Why is it that you are not considered to be a successful player in Germany these days if you haven't played for Bayern Munich.



According to whom does this statement apply?
What you are really saying here is that YOU only consider players that play for Bayern successful, we seem to be getting caught in individual definitions of 'success', I would consider a player like Thomas Hajnal successful because he has consistently performed well, on the football field, yet he plays for KSC. Why do you consider Bayern a synonym of success?

Also it is extraordinarily naive to think you can separate sport from business, they are co-dependent in modern football, one simply does not exist without the other. Think of boxing without the massive promotion, the weigh-ins, the hype, it makes the sport.

Why should the EU step in? Wage caps? Look at it this way, if football is entertainment then the players are the stars of the show, if you start capping players wages then the revenues that they would have otherwise received end up in the pockets of the 'behind the scenes' corporates, the players deserve it more than those cvnts. Football is a free market enterprise and the players are able to demand such wages due to the massive revenue of the clubs from TV deals, merchandising etc. etc. Football is also a very short career, many players don't have much else they can fall back on later in life so they make as much as they can and get out, if they have families to support then that makes it even more important they get the best wages possible. I'd call that a survival mechanism not greed.

[Schwalker]

*Cough*...Can I remind everyone that this thread is about a MANAGER considering his options in the job market.

I think we also might remind people that a German manager is not a coach per se..He is the guy that hires coaches and players and is by most considered a part of the club and not a temporary guy like say a player.

[VanDerVaart]

Why is it that you are not considered to be a successful player in Germany these days if you haven't played for Bayern Munich.
Wolf, is that why Diego and VDV are wanted more than any players in Bayern? ... Please :rolleyes: You can be successful in any club if you play consistently good, Bayern will give some more fame. If you're good like Diego for example, you earn this hype your self and he could be playing in Madrid next season. Al, what you said, I agree 100% with.

I think when I first came to this board, I wanted investors (I think or in between). Now, I'm not so sure. I do not like the EPL is run at the moment, how a club that's in 6th or 7th place is able to spend 90m in 1 season is simply ridiculous...

[Schwalker]

I think when I first came to this board, I wanted investors (I think or in between). Now, I'm not so sure. I do not like the EPL is run at the moment, how a club that's in 6th or 7th place is able to spend 90m in 1 season is simply ridiculous...


In my view investors would change nothing in German footy...Because like in EPL they will flock around the biggest clubs that most likely already are at the top.

[Mertesacker]

It's just that the gap between those that have investors and teams like Bochum and Cottbus who'd probably not attract a lot of investors would get much much bigger.

Something needs to be done.
Fulham just payed 4.300.000 for Bremen's Adreasen. Man I hope some EPL team is interested in Rosenthal or Huszti! :D