Your European League

[Stone_Monkey]

Probably the wrong forum, but any ideas and I'll move it.

If you could have a maximum of 2 teams from each European League... who would you have in your fantasy league of 20 teams and why?

[TRU GOON]

Arsenal
Man utd
Real
Barca
Ac Milan
Inter
Porto
Benfica
Celtic
Lyon
Bayern Munich
Ajax
PSV

erm...s'pose a greek team and turkish team? dont even know whos top in them? starts to get a bit rubbish ... thats why bigger leagues have more champions league places. liverpool chelsea juve etc belong here.

[Gazza]

^From Egland it has to be Liverpool and then United. They have the most history n the competition and are "bigger clubs" regardless of who's better ATM.

[Celery]

Arsenal
Man utd
Real
Barca
Ac Milan
Inter
Porto
Benfica
Celtic
Lyon
Bayern Munich
Ajax
PSV

erm...s'pose a greek team and turkish team? dont even know whos top in them? starts to get a bit rubbish ... thats why bigger leagues have more champions league places. liverpool chelsea juve etc belong here.

Galatasaray and fenerbahce

[Celery]

Chelsea
Arsenal
Real Madrid
Barca
Ac Milan
Inter
Porto
Benfica
Celtic
Lyon
Bayern Munich
Ajax
PSV
Fenerbahce
Olympiacos
Shalke

[TRU GOON]

^From Egland it has to be Liverpool and then United. They have the most history n the competition and are "bigger clubs" regardless of who's better ATM.

well i was thinkingthe fact we are better at the moment is the relevant part. just like the champions league...you want the best teams? doesnt matter how good they were? we are the firtst team in this league if you were to finalise it now....and pool would not be in it. they suck.

if anything im leaving you lot out then...just to piss you off:laugh

[TRU GOON]

Galatasaray and fenerbahce

ye gd call....those can go in mine perhaps another german team cos fink i needed 3-4 more.

[Gazza]

Chelsea
Arsenal
Real Madrid
Barca
Ac Milan
Inter
Porto
Benfica
Celtic
Lyon
Bayern Munich
Ajax
PSV
Fenerbahce
Olympiacos
Shalke

Probably the most biased post that I've seen on here.

[Celery]

Probably the most biased post that I've seen on here.

I was thinking the most honest as soon as they are the best two teams in England at the moment not just talking the premiership. Both teams are still in all 4 competitions Arsenal most likely to win the premiership and Chelsea favourites to win both the carling cup and fa cup. And maybe even the champions league with a bit of luck.

[Torley]

Gretna
Hearts
Derby
Fulham
Reggina
AC Siena
Levante
UD Almeria
FC Metz
FC Sochaux
MSV Duisburg
Energie Cottbus
Excelsior Rotterdam
Sparta Rotterdam
Uniao Leiria
Pacos de Ferreira
BB Ankaraspor
Kasimpasa Istanbul
RAEC Mons
FC Molenbeek Brussels

[Sparky]

My choice would be who plays the best football, that's Arsenal and United.

United
Arsenal
Madrid
Barca
Juve
Milan
Porto
Benfica
Rangers
Celtic
Lyon
Marseille (Who else, can't think right now?)
Bayern
W.Breman (sp?)
Ajax
PSV

Who else?!

I was thinking the most honest as soon as they are the best two teams in England at the moment not just talking the premiership. Both teams are still in all 4 competitions Arsenal most likely to win the premiership and Chelsea favourites to win both the carling cup and fa cup. And maybe even the champions league with a bit of luck.

Man Utd are favourites for the FA Cup followed by Arsenal then Chelsea. You are favourite to win the Carling Cup though as you play a strong team every game.

Barca are favourites for the CL, then us followed by yourselves.

Oh, we're also still favourites to win the league.

All taken from Ladbrokes.

Happy to help. :)

[TRU GOON]

My choice would be who plays the best football, that's Arsenal and United.

United
Arsenal
Madrid
Barca
Juve
Milan
Porto
Benfica
Rangers
Celtic
Lyon
Marseille (Who else, can't think right now?)
Bayern
W.Breman (sp?)
Ajax
PSV

Who else?!



Man Utd are favourites for the FA Cup followed by Arsenal then Chelsea. You are favourite to win the Carling Cup though as you play a strong team every game.

Barca are favourites for the CL, then us followed by yourselves.

Oh, we're also still favourites to win the league.

All taken from Ladbrokes.

Happy to help. :)

DAMN! .... celery's ancestors are hurting after that telling

[Gazza]

I was thinking the most honest as soon as they are the best two teams in England at the moment not just talking the premiership. Both teams are still in all 4 competitions Arsenal most likely to win the premiership and Chelsea favourites to win both the carling cup and fa cup. And maybe even the champions league with a bit of luck.

OK. On current form all over the season in terms of games we arethe better team. And we are current champions. Right now Arsenal and Manchester United are the best two teams ATM. Manchester United and Liverpool are the best team in hisotry of English football.

So recently, we have won the league and got to the semis of the CL. We haeve played better than you this season regardless of competitions and there is no denying we are a bigger club than Chelsea.

[Slug]

Liverpool
Arsenal
Barca
Sevilla
Inter
Roma
Lyon
Marseille
Ajax
PSV
Olympiakos
Benfica
Donegal Celtic
Porto
Bayern
Stuttgart
Fenerbahce
Hibs
Anderlecht
Derry City

[Slug]

Probably the most biased post that I've seen on here.

Hows it biased? Nobody said it has to be the best teams.. I'd love for my fantasy league to be real, and by f00k would I let you cunts (or Chelsea for that matter) anywhere near it.

[Sparky]

Hows it biased? Nobody said it has to be the best teams.. I'd love for my fantasy league to be real, and by f00k would I let you cunts (or Chelsea for that matter) anywhere near it.

Only because we'll take six points off you every year.

[dixie]

I'd rather not simulate the death of football, thanks.

[TRU GOON]

I'd rather not simulate the death of football, thanks.

:handbags

[Defoe8]

1)Man utd
2)Arsenal
3)Real Madrid
4)Barca
5)AC Milan
6)Inter Milan
7)Porto
8)Benfica
9)Celtic
10)Lyon
11)Bayern Munich
12)Ajax
13)PSV
14)Werder Bremen
15) Rangers
16) PSG
17) CSKA Moscow
18) Spartak Moscow
19) Anderlecht
20) Fenerbache

The numbers don't represent league position, just made it easier for me to make sure I had down 20 teams.

[iowa]

United
Arsenal
Madrid
Barca
Juve
Milan
Porto
Benfica
Rangers
Celtic
Lyon
Marseille (Who else, can't think right now?)
Bayern
W.Breman (sp?)
Ajax
PSV

Who else?!Werder Bremen :D
outside the major leagues
Fenerbache
Galatasaray
Olmpiakos
Panathinaikos
Legia Warsawa
Wisla Krakow
Spartak Moskva
CSKA Moskva
Steue Bucharest
Fc Kobenhavn
Brondby
Red Bull Salzburg
Anderlecht
Sparta Praha

[Sparky]

Werder Bremen :D

Cheers mate, i'm never sure how to spell it.

[ada]

Arsenal
Man Yoo
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Boca
River
Lyon
Marseilles
Inter
Juventus
Bayern Munich
Werder Bremen
Santos
Sao Paulo
Benfica
Ajax
PSV
Shaktar Donetsk
Spartak Moscow
LA Galaxy


LA Galaxy are there so we can all laugh when they get beaten by every team by 5 clear goals or more. I hope I haven't forgotten a really obvious league. Belgium isn't obvious BTW.

EDIT - Forgot about the European bit. bUTFvck that, Boca vs River would be an awesome match to have in your league and the Brazillian teams add a touch of class.

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Real Madrid
Barcelona
Man Utd
Arsenal
AC Milan
Internazionale
Bayern Munich
Werder Bremen
Olympique Lyon
Olympique Marseille
Ajax
Feyenoord
Porto
Benfica
Olympiakos
Panathinaikos
Celtic
Rangers
Anderlecht
Fenerbahce

[Z31Fanatic]

Juventus
Roma
Sevilla
Barcelona
Bayern Munich
Borussia Dortmund
Porto
Sporting Lisbon
Lyon
PSG
United
Aston Villa
Dinamo Kiev
Shakhtar Donetsk
Celtic
Rangers
PSV
Feyenoord
Santos FC (special guest)
River Plate (special guest)

[ada]

Arsenal
Man Yoo
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Boca
River
Lyon
Marseilles
Inter
Juventus
Bayern Munich
Werder Bremen
Santos
Sao Paulo
Benfica
Ajax
PSV
Shaktar Donetsk
Spartak Moscow
LA Galaxy


LA Galaxy are there so we can all laugh when they get beaten by every team by 5 clear goals or more. I hope I haven't forgotten a really obvious league. Belgium isn't obvious BTW.

EDIT - Forgot about the European bit. bUTFvck that, Boca vs River would be an awesome match to have in your league and the Brazillian teams add a touch of class.
Thinking about it I'd take our Marseille, Shaktar, Moscow or LA Galaxy out to accomodate Fenahbache and Galatasary. It's the atmosphere at the stadiums.

[TheChelseaBlues]

Marseille deserve to be on the list from France without a doubt. They are the only french team to win the CL, that's an automatic leg up on everyone inculding Lyon. Same for Porto I believe

[Mike777]

You can get a whole bunch of different teams in there depending on your personal criteria -- whether it be domestic performance, European performance, history and/or bigness of the club, plain old bias, etc ... of course, it's a fantasy list, so it'll probably be a mish-mash of all the above ...

My FANTASY Euro league:

Manchester United
Liverpool
Real Madrid
Barca
Inter Milan
Juventus
Bayern Munich
Werder Bremen
Porto
Sporting Lisbon
Ajax
PSV
Celtic
Rangers
Lyon
Fenerbahce
Olympiacos
CSKA Moscow
Red Star Belgrade
Grasshopper Zurich

[Gaurav]

1.Liverpool(5 times baby!)
2.manchester united
3.AC milan
4.Inter Milan
5.barcelona
6.Real madrid
7.celtic
8.Rangers
9.ajax
10.PSV
11.marseille
12.lyon
13.porto
14.benfica
15.galatasray
16.fenerbache
17.bayern munich
18.vfb stuttgart
19.olympiakos
20.panathanaikos

Liverpool to win it.

[TheChelseaBlues]

1. AC Milan
2. Inter
3. Real M.
4. Barca
5. ManU
6. Liverpool
7. Lyon
8. Marseille
9. Porto
10. Sporting
11. Celtic
12. Bayern M.
13. Werder Br.
14. PSV
15. Ajax
16. Dynamo Kyiv
17. Sparta Prague
18. Spartak Moscow
19. Fenerbahce
20. Olympiacos

[Scholesy18]

1.Liverpool(5 times baby!)
2.manchester united
3.AC milan
4.Inter Milan
5.barcelona
6.Real madrid
7.celtic
8.Rangers
9.ajax
10.PSV
11.marseille
12.lyon
13.porto
14.benfica
15.galatasray
16.fenerbache
17.bayern munich
18.vfb stuttgart
19.olympiakos
20.panathanaikos

Liverpool to win it.
Thread title: Your European LEAGUE

Try again:P

[brezipool]

Don't think top 2 is a fair reflection for every league. the way Eufa have it right now, is probably as good as it get's.

Only thing that could be different is have 3 leagues of 12, with promotion & relegation.

Eufa division 1, 2, 3.

That would be cool, and would probably be a better way of showing the best team in Europe.

[Gaurav]

Thread title: Your European LEAGUE

Try again:P

in my league you have to finish in the top 8,and than it will be straight knockout. :nod

[Jere Markus]

Marseille deserve to be on the list from France without a doubt. They are the only french team to win the CL, that's an automatic leg up on everyone inculding Lyon.

I dont agree. The CURRENT state of the team counts more than past honours.. Marseille? Have a look at the league table, they are close to bottom.

In my list I also emphasize the "football" and the way its played. I only took 16 because that is enough. The current CL has too many teams and thus a good league doesnt necessary have 20 teams.

France
Lyon
Bordeaux

Holland
Ajax
Feyenoord (I dont like how PSV plays)

Germany
Hamburg
BM

Spain
Real Madrid
Barca

Norway
Rosenborg

Portugal
Sporting
Porto

Greece
Olympiakos

Italy
Roma
Juventus

England
ManU
Arsenal

[Mike777]

in my league you have to finish in the top 8,and than it will be straight knockout. :nod

Heh, not too different from the AFL then (Aussie-rules footy) ... doesn't matter if you finish top of the table at the end of the home-and-away season, you have to go through the finals and win the grand final to be premiers. Liverpool would kill that system :laugh

[Gaurav]

its funny how arse fans are using good football as an excuse to get in arsenal ahead of liverpool.

i know its a matter of opinion,but FFS we have been in 2 european finals in 3 years.we should be ahead of united even when it comes to european honours.

[Mike777]

^ But it's a fantasy setup mate, anyone can put any team in there on any criteria and still be right.

[Tic_Tac_Addict]

its funny how arse fans are using good football as an excuse to get in arsenal ahead of liverpool.

i know its a matter of opinion,but FFS we have been in 2 european finals in 3 years.we should be ahead of united even when it comes to european honours.

That and were currently the best team, and apart from maybe 2 season, have been the better team since the late 80's.

Yeah, I think that has something to do with it.

But eh, it's all a fantasy (league), so pick who you want, it doesn't actually matter.

[TRU GOON]

its funny how arse fans are using good football as an excuse to get in arsenal ahead of liverpool.

i know its a matter of opinion,but FFS we have been in 2 european finals in 3 years.we should be ahead of united even when it comes to european honours.

not as funny as how liverpool are sh1t.........but you put them in your league:salute

[Manic Loop]

right fvck it. i don't do euro footbsll sowell, but choose on teams i prefer, and as i dislike both barca and real fvck em, dont like juve either so fvck them.

Arsenal
Man Utd
Valencia
Sevilla
Internazionale
AC Milan
Bayern Munich
Werder Bremen
Lyon
Marseilles
Ajax
PSV
Celtic
Fenebahce
Spartak Moscow
Porto
Benfica
Standard
Olympiakos
thought id vary it up a bi down bottom, the teams would get equalled a bit. 2 divisions in 1 really

[Jere Markus]

its funny how arse fans are using good football as an excuse to get in arsenal ahead of liverpool.

it seems to me also non-arsenal fans are doing the same.. what is your excuse now? Everybody is wrong and you are right?

[Defoe8]

Are PSG still a big club??

(Don't follow French football)

[esp]

I was thinking the most honest as soon as they are the best two teams in England at the moment not just talking the premiership. Both teams are still in all 4 competitions Arsenal most likely to win the premiership and Chelsea favourites to win both the carling cup and fa cup. And maybe even the champions league with a bit of luck.

Don't be hogging that crack pipe, make sure you pass it...

:ninja

EDIT:

pass it to anybody but myself, not a fiend...for crack anyway

[esp]

Spurs are on their way to Wembley
Tottenham's going to do it again
They can't stop 'em
The boys from Tottenham
The boys from White Hart Lane


Sorry but I have to ask...do what again??? Fail?

[Jere Markus]

Are PSG still a big club??

(Don't follow French football)

They have won s** in decades, but still they have lot of money. But these days Lyon has money too and has the good organization. PSG only has money and failure. They can be called "big" because with the money they can attract some best French players there (Rothen, Landreau latest)..

[notorious]

United
Chelsea

Juve
Ac Milan

Bayern
Werder Bremen

Real Madrid
Barcelona

Lyon
Marseilles

Porto
Sporting

Olympiakos

Fenerbace

Shakhtar
Kiev

Celtic

Sturm Graz

Red Star Belgrade

Spartak Moscow

[TheChelseaBlues]

I dont agree. The CURRENT state of the team counts more than past honours.. Marseille? Have a look at the league table, they are close to bottom.

In my list I also emphasize the "football" and the way its played. I only took 16 because that is enough. The current CL has too many teams and thus a good league doesnt necessary have 20 teams.

France
Lyon
Bordeaux

Holland
Ajax
Feyenoord (I dont like how PSV plays)

Germany
Hamburg
BM

Spain
Real Madrid
Barca

Norway
Rosenborg

Portugal
Sporting
Porto

Greece
Olympiakos

Italy
Roma
Juventus

England
ManU
Arsenal


So your league consists of the top two sides from each domestic league?

[Jere Markus]

This was the question:

If you could have a maximum of 2 teams from each European League...

and in forming a top league in Europe, I find it logical to pick the best teams from each league

[brezipool]

So your league consists of the top two sides from each domestic league?

To be fair that was the question.

so all you have to do is look atr who finished 1st & 2nd last season, and u have your answer.

[Jere Markus]

actually the question was to choose 2 teams from each league, they dont have to be the best teams or best leagues. Some people choose the best teams, but others choose with different criteria

[Berean Todd]

Man utd
Arsenal
Real Madrid
Barca
Inter Milan
Roma
Porto
Benfica
Celtic
Rangers
Bayern Munich
Werder Bremen
Ajax
Lyon
Bordeaux
CSKA Moscow
Olympiakos
Anderlecht
Fenerbache

[Berean Todd]

I find it fvcking hillarious that so many people are choosing Milan who are currently laying 12th place in the Serie A, and even if they win all of their games in hand (they have played a few less than everyone) they could be no higher than 7th.

If you were choosing the best team in Serie A it would have to come from Inter, Roma ... or to a lesser extent Juve or Fiorentina. Milan would be NOWHERE in the equation.

[Jere Markus]

agreed

[Gaurav]

I find it fvcking hillarious that so many people are choosing Milan who are currently laying 12th place in the Serie A, and even if they win all of their games in hand (they have played a few less than everyone) they could be no higher than 7th.

If you were choosing the best team in Serie A it would have to come from Inter, Roma ... or to a lesser extent Juve or Fiorentina. Milan would be NOWHERE in the equation.

7 european titles.current champions.

[Berean Todd]

7 european titles.current champions.

Currently sh*te, and could wind up not even qualifying for Europe next year. Almost assured to miss the CL.

[Sparky]

I find it fvcking hillarious that so many people are choosing Milan who are currently laying 12th place in the Serie A, and even if they win all of their games in hand (they have played a few less than everyone) they could be no higher than 7th.

If you were choosing the best team in Serie A it would have to come from Inter, Roma ... or to a lesser extent Juve or Fiorentina. Milan would be NOWHERE in the equation.

Funny because Stone said:

fantasy league

Its just a laugh Todd, maybe Milan are a lot of peoples favourite Italian team hence their inclusion in a lot of lists.

Some people haven't put Liverpool in but someone argued about them being the most succesful, so what? Its just for a laugh.

[C]

Chelsea
Liverpool
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Lyon
Monaco
Bayern Munich
Werder Bremen
Juventus
AC Milan
Celtic
Rangers
PSV
Ajax
Porto
Sporting Lisbon
FC Copenhagen
Anderlecht
Olympiacos
Panathinaikos