McLaren is gone!

[Fowksee]

hardly surprising news, but FA have confirmed it.

[leeman]

thanks ****.

[libertine]

This appointment is going to be a MASSIVE decision.

[ada]

I reckon Birmingham have a better chance of getting a new manager. Seriously though, for all I slag off Mourinho he'd be a great manager because as a tactician he's second to none and he can really handle the press. And all his other bad qualities won't really show at international level. Only trouble is he wouldn't touch the job with an 10 foot bargepole/Peter Crouch.

[Shockwave]

Same here ada. As much as i dislike the bloke, he would be the perfect manager for the job. He can handle the press, knows how to treat those over-rated, overpriced and overpaid primma dona we got in the team. But as ada said, i don't think he would go near the job.

[king billy]

Whats the difference between Lewis Hamilton and the England National side :rolleyes:














Hamilton will still have his McClaren :laugh

[leeman]

the good news is SWP wouldnt get in the side if morinho was in charge :ninja

[Lazarus1]

Maybe it wasn't so much how crap mclaren was than how crap England were.

Greatest news all day England and Mcnugget out. But it is deserved Russia and Croatia were better and deserved to go through.

"GOD SAVE OUR TEAM":clap:clap:clap:clap:bowing:bowing:bowing:bowing

[Sukh]

Wow no England in Euro 2008 :ninja I'm glad Mclaren is gone I was surprised he was ever chosen. I think the new Englsnd maanger should Jose Mourinho. By the way even though Sven got all that criticism at least he got England to the major tournaments.

[intotheforest]

No suprise.

What the FA need to do this time is instead of listening to the fans for an English manager, they should go abroad and get a good manager like they had in Sven. Fabio Capello openly told Italian TV he wants the job.

The FA went on an ego trip this morning calling that meeting less than 12 hours after the defeat,. but it was the right choice IMO and it hads given them plenty of time to choose the perfect man come our next competitive game in the September of 2008.

I thought they would appoint Venebles as caretaker coach until the next friendly in February(Knowing the FA they probably, won't have anyone until then.), but he got sacked too.

So who will the FA want? Well their first choices Mourinho and O'Neill can be forgotten.

Mourinho has his sites on Spain or Italian club coaching and I think he wants to get away from England altogether ATM. I don't think he wants the job, he says he doesn't want it, so what else can you do?

Well give him a mega deal and hopefully he will be ours. The FA must hassle these decent managers into taking the job by pulling out all the stops because you have to pay for the best. Maybe the chance of linking up with Terry and Lampard once more and also the chance for his family to remain in London will help him make this decision.

O'Neill I think has an element of Cloughie about him. If you dobn't see him being any good the first time around, then why will he want to work for you? It is how he is and you feel money isn't the case for O'Neill. He is happy at Villa and he probably wants to remain there.

So if these 2 turn it down who else can we go for? Scolari and Hiddink can be forgotten as they have a side in Euro 2008 and I think aren't interested any more in our job. Hiddink has recently signed a new deal anyway.

Well we have Capello, Shearer and Pearce who are interested plus Klinsmann. Shearer is too much of a risk to take the helm of the poison chalise and it would be absolutely ridiculous if he takes the job. Pearce couldn't do it at Forest or Man. City so where is there a case to suggest he could do it for England? Then we could analyse the situations of Mark Hughes, David Moyes, Alex Mcglish and possibly others. But these will not even be thought of IMO.

So then we are down to my top 2 choices before Mourinho.

Capello a successful manager who has turned the fortunes round at almost every club he has taken the helm of, has to be a name on the sheet from Barwick. Trouble with Capello is he upsets many players which will no doubt have a demoralising effect on the team and has always been accused of sabotaging clubs before his departure. Plus he is a fan of negative, boring football(but if he is a success who cares). This a side he has to be considered. He simply has to. He wins the league with every side he has managed and has won 4 CL tites. What more is there for the FA to consider but to go for him!

Klinsmann on the otherhand is a very good, up and coming Intenational manager. If he gets the job he'll appoint a fomer legend(Shearer) and will wipe away all the coaches where he thibnks it is going wrong, like he did with Germany. He plays attacking fotball and has a very good policy of giving youth a chance. Klinsmann would solve our GK situation similarly like he did with Lehmann and Kahn, with rotation before finally deciding. Plus if the media meddle with him, he simply cuts their privlidges of access to his NT, which would be a benefit for us all and he picks sides on the policy of performance, not reputation. He puts pride back and spirit back in among the players and supporters and will finally reinstate respect back as a top nation.

On this evidence there is no one better than Jurgen Klinsmann for our job and in all honesty I would go for him over Mourinho, Cappello or O'Niell.

[bluemoon32]

Same overated & no heart players though

[libertine]

Mourinho or Klinsman for me.

[ada]

Moe Green wants the job.

[Fowksee]

Same overated & no heart players though

Not necessarily, you only have to look at our Under 21 team to see we have good talent coming through, who do play with heart and passion.

Klinsmann strikes me as though he'll give youth a chance. so Agbonlahor, Young, Walcott, players of that ilk will get a chance.

[random monkey]

Klinsman for me.

Oh how us England fans would love a german manager :ninja

[Nick the Red]

After saying judge him on results and qualification, failing to qualify and then not quitting was not good in my book. Why people who fail can still be paid up in full is beyond me. Where he in any other business, he'd be sacked and probably just paid up for the month, not another 2.5 years. Again football needs to look at the whole situation with manager's contracts as there is a lot of money being wasted on the same failing few.

[bluemoon32]

Not necessarily, you only have to look at our Under 21 team to see we have good talent coming through, who do play with heart and passion.

Klinsmann strikes me as though he'll give youth a chance. so Agbonlahor, Young, Walcott, players of that ilk will get a chance.

Maybe, you'll have to kick out most of that side last night then.
No heart or balls shown at all, if you can't raise your game , or at least show some fight when your picked to represent your country then there is something wrong

[libertine]

Oh how us England fans would love a german manager :ninja


I'v always wanted an Englishman in charge of England (largely as I believe it should be ruled that way anyway as you have to be of the right nationality to take to the field).

But there simply isnt the calibre of coach available and English to be succesful. Therefore we are going to have to look abroad.

I couldn't care if Klinsman is German. He knows English football, he is a quality manager, he can deal with the press and he will give youth a chance.

Would it maybe piss off some of the 'Ingurland' brigade that he is German? Possibly. But hopefully that will stop some of those *****s attending games and we can get some real support.

[random monkey]

As for McClaren getting a pay off, well its a joke. His target was to qualify, he failed, how can the FA justiy paying £2.5 million after that? Well done you failed, heres a cheque? What message does that send out to managers and players?

[intotheforest]

As for McClaren getting a pay off, well its a joke. His target was to qualify, he failed, how can the FA justiy paying £2.5 million after that? Well done you failed, heres a cheque? What message does that send out to managers and players?

Because they have had to pay up the last 2 years of his contract.

[Defoe8]

Mourinho is the perfect man for the job, but he said that international management is for old men.

The only person who would realistically come is Big Phil Scolari

[Fowksee]

Maybe, you'll have to kick out most of that side last night then.
No heart or balls shown at all, if you can't raise your game , or at least show some fight when your picked to represent your country then there is something wrong

True, how realistically, 5 of that team last night were only playing due to injuries/suspensions, so they wouldnt feature in any 1st XI had everyone been fit. i would seriously pick this team and stick with it.

Yeah the lack of fight or passion was disapointing, TBH is the worst I've seen england since Graham Taylor, maybe even worse than that.

[Da Fat P0rn Sta]

If they want a big manager they'll have to go for Lippi or Cappello IMO. Most of the good international managers are taken up until after the Euros, most managers wouldn't leave until after that.

[mejulian]

A new manager will solve all your problems. Isn't that what you said with Sven?

[Sinate NZ]

Riki Herbert to take over http://www.soccer24-7.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif

[-Orion-]

lmao @ the Moe Greene picture... classic

Yea Klinsmann wow... a German managing England, hahaha... that would be bizarre... Capello is up there, he's said he's interested; even tho as I said in another thread, I'm amazed he did, because England's players don't really seem his type...but who knows what he'd go with

O Neill is a possibility, but you get the feeling he might underwhelm on the big stage... I honestly don't know who they'll go with...let alone when they'll appoint them... ASAP? Wait till Feb? Wait till after the Euros to get anyone who becomes available? After all, there's very few games between now and then...so maybe they'll leave us hanging for the good of the national team...tho if you ask me, the sooner they can get someone in and have a solid think tank and building process before any games are even played, the better... They should get the manager ASAP... a credible one, no matter who, and build

[nAz]

moe green lol...
i reckon that they shud get don barzini for the job aka capello

[Berean Todd]

Capello a successful manager who has turned the fortunes round at almost every club he has taken the helm of .... Plus he is a fan of negative, boring football(but if he is a success who cares).

And England don't?? England have been utter sh*te to watch since long before the last WC. Ask any non-England fan how they felt about watching the England team. Nothing but boring long balls and hoofing the sh*t out of people. You guys are one of the most boring NT's in the world to watch. You just also happen to overestimate yourselves before every tournament and then "choke" when the "world-class" talent is hard done by "reffing/field conditions/cheaters/divers/insert-sorry-excuse-here".

[-Orion-]

And England don't?? England have been utter sh*te to watch since long before the last WC. Ask any non-England fan how they felt about watching the England team. Nothing but boring long balls and hoofing the sh*t out of people. You guys are one of the most boring NT's in the world to watch. You just also happen to overestimate yourselves before every tournament and then "choke" when the "world-class" talent is hard done by "reffing/field conditions/cheaters/divers/insert-sorry-excuse-here".

Give up now...everyone has the same **** to say about Italian football without seemingly watching it... the passing, the technique, the movement...it's incredible...yet people actually have the nerve to compare Italian football to **** like Bolton or whatever... I'm not naming anyone in particular (because I don't know guys on here well) but just a common public perception which is so inaccurate

[intotheforest]

And England don't?? England have been utter sh*te to watch since long before the last WC. Ask any non-England fan how they felt about watching the England team. Nothing but boring long balls and hoofing the sh*t out of people. You guys are one of the most boring NT's in the world to watch. You just also happen to overestimate yourselves before every tournament and then "choke" when the "world-class" talent is hard done by "reffing/field conditions/cheaters/divers/insert-sorry-excuse-here".
Nice to see you are back Berean.

We don't want Cappello's negative football because ythe last yars of Sven and the McClaren years the prefered the defnsive, negative football which does fvck all to benefit our XI and has been one reason to filure. Now I ain't ruling out Cappello because he has been a fantasic and incredibly successful manager but to play the English game, it needs to be on the floor and attacking, something Cappello will have to get used to being slagged off for shuld he take charge. But take a look at wat I said in the brackets; If he is a success who cares.

[Fowksee]

I cannot accpet any criticism of my team from someone who jumps fromt team to team the way you do, Todd.

[bambergascoigne]

Yeah. Wheres bluemoon and WW with some cheerful banter? Argueing about it with G and Berean is pointless

[Fredo]

Another knee jerk reaction from a board of directors.
Where is the continuity?
He barely had time to settle in the job and he's gone.
A new manager's gonna come in, bring his own players and after 2 defeats will be gone.
It is time board of directors have the balls to stand by their manager and show faith when the times are not good.
I can't believe the 2m£ pay-off will be any consolation for poor old Steve.
My heart bleeds for him.

[random monkey]

Because they have had to pay up the last 2 years of his contract.

I know that. But I'm saying its ******* stupid, if you did a half-assed job then got sacked would you expect to be given a pay off?

[Gib710]

Lawrie Sanchez is good at getting the best out of sh*t players on the international stage. You should go for him :D

[scoot]

T.F.F.T the idiots gone, Must admit I wanted England to lose last night, but it was only because I wanted McClaren sacked, my only fear now is if the FA appoint Allardyce as the next manager

[Celery]

Unfortunately Mourinho doesnt want the job it would of been great if he did take charge but he has said several times he does not want to, so I very much doubt he will manage us.

[Roh]

He had to go in all honesty, should never have been there in the first place. Nowhere near good enough to manage England.

England do have enough players to be a very competitive side, but it'll never happen until the F.A. choose a capable international manager. Capello and Mourinho are certainly going to be the two names thrown about the most. Both come with pro's and con's, it's up to the FA to do something right for once.

As soon as England get a good manager, who looks like he cares and improves England and gets them playing a style of football that you'd expect from a national team from one of the biggest footballing nations.
And England don't?? England have been utter sh*te to watch since long before the last WC. Ask any non-England fan how they felt about watching the England team. Nothing but boring long balls and hoofing the sh*t out of people. You guys are one of the most boring NT's in the world to watch. You just also happen to overestimate yourselves before every tournament and then "choke" when the "world-class" talent is hard done by "reffing/field conditions/cheaters/divers/insert-sorry-excuse-here".
...By saying that, do you think you're disagreeing with anyone.

We're well aware England play bad football and despite you laying down that old one, you may have noticed England fans have realised about the mismanagement and player weaknesses and highlighted that as opposed to the external factors. Other than the clueless beer-bellies that know sweetFA about football, it's accepted that things aren't rosy.

[tonyevans22]

I suppose a team comprising of; two Spurs reserves up front along side one Liverpool reserve forward,with Liverpool's ex third choice goal keeper behind Chelsea's reserve left back,and a bloke who came over from America,who has played a twice in the last six months ......... losing to Croatia was probably not a bad effort.


We are Fecked at International level



No matter who we bring in what difference is it gonna make?

[gargy]

Its going to be a lot of fun to see how the media/fans handle having a german as the manager of the NT. But i think Klinsmann can do good things with the NT if he comes. I just wonder if he is suicidal enough to take the job if its offered.

[bluemoon32]

Yeah. Wheres bluemoon and WW with some cheerful banter? Argueing about it with G and Berean is pointless

Bit difficult to take the p1ss out of your lot when we lost to Cyprus

[Gazza]

Unfortunately Mourinho doesnt want the job

Where you heard that?

[bluemoon32]

Where you heard that?

On the BBC, Sky,ITV...take your pick

[Fowksee]

Cant blame him in all honesty. :laugh

Capello says he wants it, he aint scared of primadonnas (look at real Madrid and the pressure there), and its not like we play great football now anyway, so get a master tactician in and see how we go.

[Bossanova]

Mourinho is still a god.

*Sighs with relief*

[Parlour4Ever]

A new manager will solve all your problems. Isn't that what you said with Sven?

Right so we won't have a manager then?

Sven did reyt enough. Sick of people thinking he was a failure.

[Celery]

Where you heard that?

As bluemoon said take your pick.

[Gazza]

I wsould take either of Capello right now because as Foulksey said we aint exactly playing good foot at the moment so it wouldnt make a diffeence except getting our act together. I have always liked Capello and rate him very highly

[orswich]

so thats why mclaren didnt resign.. if he resigned the FA would owe him no money at all, but since he hung on and made them fire him they have to settle out his contract..

thats just simple greed.. is there no one who would manage england out of pride anymore?.

[ada]

Capello is one of the best managers in world football but his lack of English and international experience (although as somebody pointed out to me this isn't really a huge problem) are going to cause problems. I mean if the England players all spoke Italian he'd be 100% perfect for the job but I think we have to be careful or we'll have a Ranieri type situation on our hands.

[orswich]

why not name shearer as national coach?..

sure he doesnt have alot of coaching experience etc. but niether did klinsmann for germany.. he had a philosophy and a little thing called national pride both go a long way.

i think thats what england needs, a coach with a philosophy they will do anything to play by, and a pride in being english.. Shearer is perfect, and you can give him any tactician as an assistant

[-Orion-]

You can't be serious... I'm sorry, but Alan Shearer doesn't strike me as the man for the job AT ALL... Sure, you don't necessarily NEED experience, but Klinsmann was under fire, remember that, he had one good World Cup with the whole country behind him and that was essentially it... people forget what it was like before...he resigned straight after and that's 'cuz he knew it wouldn't get any better

Alan Shearer is the type of guy that would paly Lampard and Gerrard in the same team just because... Start Michael Owen all the time just because...etc... We need someone who's gonna get the TACTICS right...that's what England have lacked...someone who can choose the right system and the players to play to that system... Do that and, with the level of quality England have, success will come...even if it's just relative success, i.e. improvement on being a QF team, making semis and finals... wins require luck, and you can never guarantee a tournament win, no matter who you are

So who fits this bill better than pretty much anybody? Capello... Mourinho too, but he's not interested...he's said he's not a long time ago; granted he hasn't spoken out with something definitive since the sacking, but it's a given that his stance hasn't changed... Capello seems the way to go... Redknapp would be ideal, but I'm just unsure as he's never managed at a top level, and I don't know, to be honest, how hard he'd be willing to act on the golden boys...whether he really would shake it up and play the best team or not