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[Jimmifloyd]

i think AC Milan have a very god chance, I think the final will be between Real and AC, and this is what I am hoping it will be aswell. I think a final between two teams from the same league isnt as good as two different leagues.

I think Real Madrid will be very hard for AC to beat (if they both get in the final), and if AC were to win I think it would be on penalties.

[Van Der Vaart 23]

I hope AC Milan, but I think Real Madrid

[Zizou]

RM are beatable over 1 game (just like B. Leverkusen - an average team at most - nearly did last season) + this season in the league stages, RM lost and drew loads of games (and those are games that you take one at a time).

I would have preferred to meet RM in the final, as from the last 4 teams, RM and Juve are the better teams of the lot, so whatever the final will be, it won't be between the best 2 in my opinion. But again, if Roma can beat RM at the Bernabau, even Juve can :D So I`m gonna go for my boys! ;)

[Warwick Photos]

Originally posted by Zizou@Apr 25 2003, 06:01 PM
RM are beatable over 1 game (just like B. Leverkusen - an average team at most - nearly did last season) + this season in the league stages, RM lost and drew loads of games (and those are games that you take one at a time).

I would have preferred to meet RM in the final, as from the last 4 teams, RM and Juve are the better teams of the lot, so whatever the final will be, it won't be between the best 2 in my opinion. But again, if Roma can beat RM at the Bernabau, even Juve can :D So I`m gonna go for my boys! ;)
well the best two were Man Utd and Real so no the best two won't be in the final ;) Hope Juve win, think Real will

[TedNolan]

I also hope Juve wins, but I think real will lift the cup.

[Zizou]

In the CL, it's not always the best team who wins. In the 95/96, the best team was Ajax by far, but Juve still won it. In 96/97 and 97/98 Juve were the better teams, bu Dortmund and Madrid squeezed a win.

Anyway from the games I saw Real Madrid play in, yeah htey're amazing going forward, but in defence they're poor. Even in attack, just cos they have those strikers, it doesn`t mean they`re gonna score like it happened against Roma and Milan.

I don't think I'm saying something out of this world when I say that Real Madrid's only extraordinary game of this CL season was against Man Utd at home. Apart from that game, they always failed to shine (check out all the results).

[acb]

JUVENTUS. :king

[TedNolan]

I don't think I'm saying something out of this world when I say that Real Madrid's only extraordinary game of this CL season was against Man Utd at home.

You're right. Juve can beat them, and i'd like to see Trezeguet back. I also hope they don't get any bad injuries. I'm really looking foward to this game. And Who knows, Ronaldo will maybe want to take a night off.

[Zizou]

Originally posted by TedNolan@Apr 26 2003, 10:27 PM
I don't think I'm saying something out of this world when I say that Real Madrid's only extraordinary game of this CL season was against Man Utd at home.

You're right. Juve can beat them, and i'd like to see Trezeguet back. I also hope they don't get any bad injuries. I'm really looking foward to this game. And Who knows, Ronaldo will maybe want to take a night off.
There are some factors going in favour and also against Juve.

In favour:

- Trezeguet is back (he's playing from the start tomorrow against Brescia - hopefully he'll be fully fit for the Real Madrid game
- No injuries (crossed fingers)
- Raul is out for sure of the first game, and probably also of the second game
- Ronaldo never scored against Juve, probably cos Lippi knows his style well and can stop him
- Zidane was always cancelled out when he played against Italian teams. Man marking anyone?

Against:

- 3 important players suspended in the first match (Davids, Tacchinardi and Montero)
- Real are better on 2 legs than in one leg

[Foley87]

im gonna shock you all and go for Inter

a team i really like,think theyll beat ac and then real on pens in the final

[soccerchic]

Originally posted by Foley87@Apr 27 2003, 08:10 AM
im gonna shock you all and go for Inter

a team i really like,think theyll beat ac and then real on pens in the final
you go, my boy :clap :clap

[TedNolan]

Originally posted by Foley87@Apr 26 2003, 04:10 PM
im gonna shock you all and go for Inter

a team i really like,think theyll beat ac and then real on pens in the final
that's interesting. Well, they have one of the best if not the best striker in the world right now... so why not! But, i'll still go for juve. only because i respect them after they defeated the team I was cheering for, Barca.

[soccerchic]

i want inter to win it, but i think the scum will just do it :banghead :censored

[Excelsior]

Real Madrid

[Mark]

Originally posted by Foley87@Apr 26 2003, 11:10 PM
im gonna shock you all and go for Inter

a team i really like,think theyll beat ac and then real on pens in the final
hope you're wrong mate, that'll be an awful final if Inter get there just sitting back in their own half and playing on the break, will be the worst final sicne Bayern played Valencia

[Zizou]

Hey foley, what's to like in Inter? Seriously.

apart from some good individuals (Vieri, Crespo, J. Zanetti, etc) they have no team, they are very boring to watch and if they win, I'd be very ashamed for Italian football. A team that plays so badly should never even be in the CL, let alone win it.

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Zizou@Apr 27 2003, 02:25 PM
A team that plays so badly should never even be in the CL, let alone win it.
agreed :clap :clap :clap

[soccerchic]

Originally posted by Zizou@Apr 27 2003, 10:25 PM
Hey foley, what's to like in Inter? Seriously.

apart from some good individuals (Vieri, Crespo, J. Zanetti, etc) they have no team, they are very boring to watch and if they win, I'd be very ashamed for Italian football. A team that plays so badly should never even be in the CL, let alone win it.
i'll try and answer that ;)

i really don't know why i like them, it's not because of their style of play, but because i respect some of their players. and inter are always doing things to help out other clubs, like the kosovo's and stuff. that's why i like em so much.

[Zizou]

Originally posted by soccerchic@Apr 27 2003, 02:52 PM
inter are always doing things to help out other clubs, like the kosovo's and stuff. that's why i like em so much.
But all clubs help in one way or another. For example this year the juventus players made a cover version of a famous italian song that went first in the italian hit parades and stayed there for a month or more. All the money went in favour of some kids association. Anyway this is just one example, but all major clubs help (and even minor clubs) so you shouldn`t side with someone just for that ;)

The only way I can see Inter helping others more that other clubs is that they just buy useless players and give them ridiculously high wages :D

[Foley87]

i have no idea why but i just like them :laugh :laugh

and i think theyll shock everyone and win it

[Zizou]

It will definitely be a shock for football if a team like Inter wins :rolleyes:

[nicodemus]

I hope Ac milan wins it, as i think its going to be a real ac final, but, i think real madrid is... :crying

[Zizou]

Personally, if Real defeat Juve then I hope they win it, as both Milan and Inter are not CL winners material. there are teams more worthier than them who have been eliminated before.

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Zizou@Apr 27 2003, 07:35 PM
Personally, if Real defeat Juve then I hope they win it, as both Milan and Inter are not CL winners material. there are teams more worthier than them who have been eliminated before.
About Inter I certainly agree, but how can you say that AC Milan isn't CL winners material? They beat Real 1-0 before and it was a well deserved victory, they were class that night! If they reach that level, I consider them better than Real. They might not be in CL winning form at the moment, but they can certainly win it, they have a very strong team!

[Zizou]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23@Apr 27 2003, 09:24 PM
they have a very strong team!
Up to a month or two ago, I thought the same thing, but now their bubble has burst and they're not such a strong team after all.

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Zizou+Apr 28 2003, 12:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Zizou @ Apr 28 2003, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Van Der Vaart 23@Apr 27 2003, 09:24 PM
they have a very strong team!
Up to a month or two ago, I thought the same thing, but now their bubble has burst and they're not such a strong team after all. [/b][/quote]
of course they are, they've shown their potential in that PERIOD(not only that one match, but they played well for a period), so that says that they ARE a strong team, only they're not on topform, if they are, they're unbeatable... they have a strong defense, a very good midfield and a deadly attack, where Pippo finishes every chance and Shevchenko does the moving.. only their keeper could be better...but they have a very good team, consider them way better than Juve when they're on form..

[soccerchic]

Originally posted by Zizou+Apr 28 2003, 02:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Zizou @ Apr 28 2003, 02:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--soccerchic@Apr 27 2003, 02:52 PM
inter are always doing things to help out other clubs, like the kosovo's and stuff. that's why i like em so much.
But all clubs help in one way or another. For example this year the juventus players made a cover version of a famous italian song that went first in the italian hit parades and stayed there for a month or more. All the money went in favour of some kids association. Anyway this is just one example, but all major clubs help (and even minor clubs) so you shouldn`t side with someone just for that ;)

The only way I can see Inter helping others more that other clubs is that they just buy useless players and give them ridiculously high wages :D [/b][/quote]
but maybe it was for italian kids ;) absolutely nothing wrong with that, but inter don't just do it for ITALIANS, but other kids around the world. and during the war from all the sites i checked, barca and inter were the only ones who had "no war" banners/news.
and zanetti is a great guy. have you heard what he does?

[Mark]

Originally posted by soccerchic+Apr 28 2003, 01:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Apr 28 2003, 01:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Zizou+Apr 28 2003, 02:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Zizou @ Apr 28 2003, 02:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--soccerchic@Apr 27 2003, 02:52 PM
inter are always doing things to help out other clubs, like the kosovo's and stuff. that's why i like em so much.
But all clubs help in one way or another. For example this year the juventus players made a cover version of a famous italian song that went first in the italian hit parades and stayed there for a month or more. All the money went in favour of some kids association. Anyway this is just one example, but all major clubs help (and even minor clubs) so you shouldn`t side with someone just for that ;)

The only way I can see Inter helping others more that other clubs is that they just buy useless players and give them ridiculously high wages :D [/b][/quote]
but maybe it was for italian kids ;) absolutely nothing wrong with that, but inter don't just do it for ITALIANS, but other kids around the world. and during the war from all the sites i checked, barca and inter were the only ones who had "no war" banners/news.
and zanetti is a great guy. have you heard what he does? [/b][/quote]
maybe other clubs are to sensible to mix football and politics, exactly the way it should be, both seperate and nothing to do with the other :clap

[soccerchic]

Originally posted by Mark+Apr 28 2003, 10:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mark @ Apr 28 2003, 10:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--soccerchic+Apr 28 2003, 01:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Apr 28 2003, 01:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Zizou+Apr 28 2003, 02:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Zizou @ Apr 28 2003, 02:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--soccerchic@Apr 27 2003, 02:52 PM
inter are always doing things to help out other clubs, like the kosovo's and stuff. that's why i like em so much.
But all clubs help in one way or another. For example this year the juventus players made a cover version of a famous italian song that went first in the italian hit parades and stayed there for a month or more. All the money went in favour of some kids association. Anyway this is just one example, but all major clubs help (and even minor clubs) so you shouldn`t side with someone just for that ;)

The only way I can see Inter helping others more that other clubs is that they just buy useless players and give them ridiculously high wages :D [/b][/quote]
but maybe it was for italian kids ;) absolutely nothing wrong with that, but inter don't just do it for ITALIANS, but other kids around the world. and during the war from all the sites i checked, barca and inter were the only ones who had "no war" banners/news.
and zanetti is a great guy. have you heard what he does? [/b][/quote]
maybe other clubs are to sensible to mix football and politics, exactly the way it should be, both seperate and nothing to do with the other :clap [/b][/quote]
well by putting those banners up, it shows they care about innocents dying ;)
so :clap to my barca and inter

[Zizou]

Just cos they put a banner on their site? That's cheesy, I mean, probably the players don't even know their site does that. And just cos you post a banner doesn`t mean you care, you`re just being politically correct.

Tommasi of Roma, is very active in his social life and always doing lots of good things towards others (especially kids in need). I admire more people like him rather than others who just blow their horn on how politically correct they are.

[Zizou]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23@Apr 28 2003, 01:06 AM
of course they are, they've shown their potential in that PERIOD(not only that one match, but they played well for a period), so that says that they ARE a strong team, only they're not on topform, if they are, they're unbeatable... they have a strong defense, a very good midfield and a deadly attack, where Pippo finishes every chance and Shevchenko does the moving.. only their keeper could be better...but they have a very good team, consider them way better than Juve when they're on form..
If you followed Milan this season, you would know that Milan was playing extremely well at the start of the season (up to December) where they were trashing their opponents with goals. This was due to the very attacking mode they were using, and their opponents were not prepared to such a tactic. But once January came, the novelty wore out and everyone could see that if they pressed their midfield immediately rather than letting them advance, Milan were an easy prey.

In the 2nd round of the Serie A, Milan collected a miserable 16 points from 14 matches (an average of a relegation battling team), and scored in total only 48 goals (3/4 of which came in the early part of the season when they were on a high). Shevcenko has had another poor season (even Tomasson has scored more than him - and he has featured in just a handful of games)

Milan are still a better side than Inter and I want them to pass cos at least they try to play football, but to go and say Milan is better than Juve is plain ridiculous.

[soccerchic]

Originally posted by Zizou@Apr 28 2003, 06:09 PM
Just cos they put a banner on their site? That's cheesy, I mean, probably the players don't even know their site does that. And just cos you post a banner doesn`t mean you care, you`re just being politically correct.

Tommasi of Roma, is very active in his social life and always doing lots of good things towards others (especially kids in need). I admire more people like him rather than others who just blow their horn on how politically correct they are.
ya but it's not only that one banner ;)
and yes i heard about what tommasi does, he sounds like a great guy. i have to admire players like those, even if they're not the best at what they do.