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Viva_Benfica
Mar 3 2007, 06:47 PM
you guys are getting a bit luck on your side.



PORTSMOUTH, England (AP) - Chelsea captain John Terry will miss the Champions League game against FC Porto on Tuesday as he continues his recovery from a head injury from the League Cup final.



Terry was accidentally kicked in the face by Arsenal midfielder Abou Diaby as he tried to score with a diving header during the Feb. 25 final, which the Blues won 2-1.
He was initially unconscious and then carried off the field on a stretcher to go to the hospital for scans to his head and back.
Although Terry rejoined his teammates' celebrations at the Millennium stadium, Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho says the fact that he had a head injury means it is too much of a risk for him to play.
"JT to play against Porto? No chance," Mourinho said after Saturday's 2-0 Premier League victory at Portsmouth. "The man is before the player. JT is more important than a football result and we don't risk him. The medical rules are the medical rules."
Mourinho said Terry may return in the FA Cup quarterfinals against Tottenham on March 11.

Bossanova
Mar 3 2007, 10:14 PM
Terry wouldn't play at his best level, and Essien is a decent CB so its hardly news to make me ecstatic.

I'd rather Robben or Lampard didn't play.

Viva_Benfica
Mar 3 2007, 10:15 PM
does Mourinho not like Robben? every game i watch Robben in either on the bench or coming off.

Bossanova
Mar 3 2007, 10:25 PM
He has mainly been on the bench lately due to injury problems.

He has just returned from an injury.

Sometimes he is also left out either due to a dip in form, his dodgy attitude, or the fact that Mourinho prefers Makelele, Essien, Lampard and Ballack to form his midfield.

But with Essien playing CB, Robben will be likely to fill the extra midfield spot.

nicodemus
Mar 4 2007, 01:51 AM
Lucho and Boswingwa in doubt vs chelsea.

FC Porto beat SC Braga 1-0, thanks to Adriano's early goal on Saturday, to reinforce their position at the head of the Portuguese Liga, giving the champions a seven-point advantage over SL Benfica. The win was soured, however, after full-back Bosingwa and midfielder Lucho González were both withdrawn with knocks that left them doubtful for Tuesday's trip to Chelsea FC.



Quaresma playing at 50% of his capabilities right now..anderson, lucho, your two talismen in midfield, and your top right back injured.

Porto:(

Bossanova
Mar 4 2007, 09:25 AM
Bosingwa will miss the match, but Lucho should be ok.

forzaitalia25
Mar 4 2007, 10:51 AM
yeah i hear lucho will miss the game what about anderson ?

Bossanova
Mar 4 2007, 10:55 AM
Anderson will definitely miss the game I'd say, as will Bosingwa.

Anderson will be back in late March/Early April according to what was said a few days ago.

I haven't heard much written in the Portuguese press about any Lucho injury, and I think its just people making assumptions as he usually isn't subbed, and was last night.

We'll find out soon enough.

trekkervilla
Mar 4 2007, 11:18 AM
get in there quaresma!!!!! show them what a loss feels like.. :ninja

i would have loved to say a "f.o.r.z.a p.o.r.t.o" but i don't want to jinx it..

Bossanova
Mar 4 2007, 11:37 AM
Don't say forza porto, but you can say Força Porto :D

That won't carry Foulkesys curse.

Bossanova
Mar 4 2007, 01:48 PM
Lucho suffered a slight injury, but is in the squad for the match, and hopefully will be ok.

Bosingwa is definitely out.

Lista de convocados:

Guarda-redes: Helton e Vítor Baía.

Defesas: Bruno Alves, Cech, Pepe, Ricardo Costa, Fucile, Lucas Mareque e João Paulo.

Médios: Paulo Assunção, Raul Meireles, Lucho González, Ibson e Jorginho.

Avançados: Quaresma, Adriano, Alan, Bruno Moraes, Hélder Postiga e Lisandro López.

Bossanova
Mar 5 2007, 09:37 AM
Boulharouz is back for Chelsea.

Bossanova
Mar 5 2007, 09:40 AM
Porto have never won a competitive match vs an English side in England.

The best we have achieved is a draw.

Hmm...2-2 draw it is then :D

forzaitalia25
Mar 5 2007, 10:52 AM
Porto have never won a competitive match vs an English side in England.

The best we have achieved is a draw.

Hmm...2-2 draw it is then :D
really never knew that ,what do you think your line up will be ?

Bossanova
Mar 5 2007, 12:21 PM
---------------------Helton---------------------
Fucile----------Pepe---------Alves----------Cech
---------------Assuncao-----Meireles----------
Lisandro------------Lucho------------------Quaresma
---------------------Adriano-----------------------

Postiga instead of Adriano, Marek instead of Cech and Ibson if Lucho is injured are all possibilities.

Chelsea will play:

-----------------------Cech--------------------------
--Diarra--------Carvalho-------Boula-------------Cole (is he fit yet?)
--------------------Makelele-----------------------
-------------Lampard------------Essien-------------
---------------------Ballack-----------------
---------------Sheva--------Drogs--------------

If Mourinho really wants to attack, Robben may take a place in the midfield.

trekkervilla
Mar 5 2007, 12:31 PM
robben would cause far more trouble to the porto defence than shevchenko.

Bossanova
Mar 5 2007, 12:39 PM
The Shevchenko in europe, and the shevchenko in the prem is a different player.

Fowksee
Mar 5 2007, 12:45 PM
Boulharouz is back for Chelsea.

So Porto have a chance :D

Bossanova
Mar 5 2007, 12:52 PM
I'll have to be watching this match at home, couldn't get myself tickets this time :(

Was offered some at 100 each, fvckin touts I laughed at the guys face

lethal lockdown
Mar 5 2007, 05:35 PM
Who is Bosingwa Qauresma is rubbish Helder Postiga is so rubbish Hilario up front can score more goals than him.

DvA
Mar 5 2007, 05:40 PM
although i dont like Quaresma, i rathe have him over Robben any day of the week. About Bosingwa i know it doesn't say anything but he is better than any of ur right backs. About Postiga i agree with u.

Bossanova
Mar 5 2007, 05:40 PM
Who is Bosingwa Qauresma is rubbish Helder Postiga is so rubbish Hilario up front can score more goals than him.

Same could be said about Postiga in goal.

I think he'd let in less goals than Hilario...:handbags

nicodemus
Mar 5 2007, 06:14 PM
Who is Bosingwa Qauresma is rubbish Helder Postiga is so rubbish Hilario up front can score more goals than him.


ahaha ******* moronic English retard:laugh :laugh

Still remember the show he put on vs england u21's a few years back.:drinkbeer

nicodemus
Mar 5 2007, 06:28 PM
With cech in the lineup I dont know how Porto will do.

Lucho will have to dominate the midfield, even though he hasn't been playing well lately:ninja

Quaresma will need to put on one of his magical performances like he has in past games vs inter milan(X2), rangers, Benfica, cska moscow, arsenal etc etc.

But not playing a competitive game for a month has taken its toll on him.

Adriano/Postiga as striker:ninja

If Porto can get a result hats off to them:drinkbeer :clap

Bosingwa will be missed.

Viva_Benfica
Mar 5 2007, 07:55 PM
hopefully Fucile can do the job of Bosingwa.

but i don't see Porto going thru. they need a striker that can deal with top teams like chelsea. Adriano and Helder Postiga don't have those qualities.

nicodemus
Mar 5 2007, 07:59 PM
Lisandro lopez is a top striker, but he plays outwide and joins the forward in a box..if only they had another one like him.

How usefull would hugo almeida now right about now?

Been in great form for Werder and would be a quality targetman for quaresmas crosses and he is pretty quick for a big guy(scored a few crackers this season for werder with the ball on the deck and him running by 2 defenders)

hes easily better then adriano and postiga.

Cech destroyed portos game vs chelsea when he got subbed him..and Fucile cant play as bad as he did last game, its impossible.

If Porto scores the first goal, IT IS ON!

This leg hinges on whoever scores the first goal.

apprently Drogba might miss the this game, and boulha sucks, so if he starts= good news

Bossanova
Mar 5 2007, 08:33 PM
Boula is a good defender, he has been injured alot, and not been able to show his worth. To say he sucks is naive. Although he may not be at his best tomorrow, as he has hardly played in 3 months.

I'd rather have Adriano than Hugo Almeida. I'm speaking honestly. Adriano will get 15 a season if played all season in Portuguese League, Almeida maybe 6 or 7.

I have only heard Drogba is a doubt in the thread in the Chelsea forum, it hasn't been mentioned anywhere else as far as I have seen, therefore its BS IMO, he will play.


We need to defend, defend, defend

Hopefully it will be 0-0 after 80 minutes and we can start pressuring the home crowd, and fluke something.

I can't dream of us making it through any other way.

If we score 1st early, mourinho bangs on robben and we lose 4-1

If they score 1st, we attack, they counter, they win 3-0

petetheblue
Mar 5 2007, 08:56 PM
-----------------cech--------------

-diarra----carvalho--boula----cole--

----------------maka--------------

----essien-----lampard---robben---

-----------drogba---shevs--------


thats the team i would like to play...but no doubt ballack will be in the real one :(

nicodemus
Mar 5 2007, 09:13 PM
-----------------cech--------------

-diarra----carvalho--boula----cole--

----------------maka--------------

----essien-----lampard---robben---

-----------drogba---shevs--------


thats the team i would like to play...but no doubt ballack will be in the real one :(


i think Mourinho is pressured into playing Ballack by Abra, i honestly think thats the case. Mourinho would never keep such a underperforming player in the starting XI for so long.

nicodemus
Mar 5 2007, 09:15 PM
Boula is a good defender, he has been injured alot, and not been able to show his worth. To say he sucks is naive. Although he may not be at his best tomorrow, as he has hardly played in 3 months.

I'd rather have Adriano than Hugo Almeida. I'm speaking honestly. Adriano will get 15 a season if played all season in Portuguese League, Almeida maybe 6 or 7.

I have only heard Drogba is a doubt in the thread in the Chelsea forum, it hasn't been mentioned anywhere else as far as I have seen, therefore its BS IMO, he will play.


We need to defend, defend, defend

Hopefully it will be 0-0 after 80 minutes and we can start pressuring the home crowd, and fluke something.

I can't dream of us making it through any other way.

If we score 1st early, mourinho bangs on robben and we lose 4-1

If they score 1st, we attack, they counter, they win 3-0

I have seen boulha play 4/5 times before he was injured, and in every game he was chelseas weakest link on the backline, maybe i just caught him on bad games but i can only comment on what I see.

I think if porto score first you can cause them loads of trouble on the counter..boswingwas speed would have helped vs robben though, and fucile and cech wont stand a chance.

petetheblue
Mar 5 2007, 09:22 PM
did you see boularouz play against barca? or against blackburn?

he's had 2 poor games for us that i can think of. he's a damn solid defender though, good stopper...bit clumsy though. gives away too many fouls.

petetheblue
Mar 5 2007, 09:23 PM
i think Mourinho is pressured into playing Ballack by Abra, i honestly think thats the case. Mourinho would never keep such a underperforming player in the starting XI for so long.

its bad enough that he plays him.

but he's also said he's "UNTOUCHABLE" well im of the opinion that no-one should be untouchable. speshly not lazy, immobile, useless tools who are here soley for money and have not even showed enough quality to play in a pub team.

Viva_Benfica
Mar 5 2007, 09:36 PM
did you see boularouz play against barca? or against blackburn?

he's had 2 poor games for us that i can think of. he's a damn solid defender though, good stopper...bit clumsy though. gives away too many fouls. if thats the case, you better hope Quaresma doesn't play well.

Bossanova
Mar 5 2007, 09:37 PM
We don't have anyone that can take a freekick though.

Since Deco has left we have lacked a free kick specialist.

Viva_Benfica
Mar 5 2007, 09:50 PM
We don't have anyone that can take a freekick though.

Since Deco has left we have lacked a free kick specialist. Lucho and Quaresma aren't bad at them and with Pepe lurking inside the box, you never know what can happen.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 01:31 AM
Quaresma plots Chelsea exit

Had Ricardo Quaresma aimed just a fraction lower two weeks ago at the Estádio do Dragăo then FC Porto would be defending a 2-1 lead at Stamford Bridge instead of having to plot a route past Chelsea FC and their masterful goalkeeper Petr Čech.

'Great goalkeeper'
Chelsea manager José Mourinho said on Monday that his No1 has returned from a serious head injury showing even better form than before, yet Quaresma remains undaunted by the task facing the Portuguese champions in the second leg of their first knockout round tie. "He is a great goalkeeper but he has let goals in before," said the talented winger, who beat the Czech international, if not the crossbar, with a stunning strike using the outside of his boot a fortnight ago.

'No advantage'
"We'll do the best we can to get the ball past Čech," Quaresma continued. "Winning any game brings great joy and it would bring even more this time if we're able to beat Chelsea. They are a good team with very strong players and they also have a great manager. The fact that John Terry is not fit gives us no advantage because Chelsea have other good players they can bring in."

Close marking
The quality the 23-year-old has demonstrated this season guarantees him close attention wherever he goes, and it is certain Mourinho will have reminded his team of the danger Quaresma poses. Close marking, however, is not something that concerns the Portuguese international. "Every game I've got a marker up against me, and it doesn't worry me," he said. "All that concerns me is playing the game and doing the best we can. This game gives us the opportunity to show we are a good team. We have good players and we can do very well here."

To refresh your memory..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp5xwB9NOyo&mode=related&search=

If only...what could have been

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 10:01 AM
Lucho and Quaresma aren't bad at them and with Pepe lurking inside the box, you never know what can happen.

Quaresma is hit and miss with freekicks, and can never score directly.

If we had a Simao-like specialist, then it would help us alot tonight.

hugetomatoes
Mar 6 2007, 12:13 PM
Quaresma is hit and miss with freekicks, and can never score directly.

If we had a Simao-like specialist, then it would help us alot tonight.

actually Lisandro is better than Quaresma for direct FKs, in Argentina he used to have an average of 3 FK goals per tournament.

plus he's left footed(i think). I dunno why porto keeps insisting on Quaresma. He's good too but his FKs go with too much power and speed, it's hard to score a FK like that with perfect accuracy.

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 01:52 PM
50/50 chance of me going now

I may have just found 2 tickets off a contact

PLEASE GOD LET ME GO!!!!!!!!!

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 02:07 PM
It's the Lisandro show today :D

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 02:08 PM
:(:(:(

Nope, no tickets for me

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 02:09 PM
I'm watching this game on ESPN HD!!

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 02:10 PM
Man I would kill for a ticket.

Oh well.

I'll just watch on tv instead

As long as we win I don't care where I watch it :)

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 02:16 PM
Bossa Porto never beats English teams away..but can we push it to 2-2?

I know Porto can score, we have scored lots of goals this CL, but against Chelsea?

Thankgod Terry is out..

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 02:21 PM
Like I have said, if we played this tie 100 times tonight, we would qualify once IMO.

So theres still a chance :D

JF isn't smart enough to win this tie I don't think, but maybe we can fluke a 1-1 draw and go to penalties :D

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 02:24 PM
To see Quaresma hit the bar again? :(

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 02:28 PM
If we took them to penalties, there would be no pressure on us, and yes we'd most likely lose (cech in goal, ballack, lampard, drogba) etc, but then we could say they could only beat us on penalties :D

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 05:03 PM
:ninja:ninja:ninja:ninja:ninja

------------------------Helton----------------
Fucile-----------Pepe-----------Alves----R.Costa
-----------------------Assuncao---------------
----------------Meireles-----------Cech----------
----Lucho------------------------------Quaresma
--------------------------Lisandro-----------------

They announced the team sheets on the english tv right now, and this is what we must be playing :ninja

Oh not again JF!!!!!!

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 05:05 PM
LOL

I just seen it on UEFA right now..HOW???

Why is he playing this lineup? TERRIBLE....

Bossa it looks like this on UEFA

----------------------Helton-----------------------
--Bosingwa--------Alves-------Pepe---------Cech--
---------------R.Costa------Assuncao-------------
---------Lucho--------------------Meiereles--------
---------------Lisandro--------Quaresma-----------

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 05:07 PM
There's always next year....

BAHa what a disaster.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 05:17 PM
what a utterly ridiculous lineup.

WTF atleast start postiga or adriano, maybe even vierinha on the wing or soemthing, atleasr hes ******* skillfull with a wicked shot/.


any of those would be ALOT better then ricardo costa and marek cech:ninja

JF pissed his pants:(

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 05:20 PM
I wanted to see Cech play, he plays well either on LB or DM. Hes getting better..but against Chelsea the best thing would of been Bosingwa-Fucile

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 05:22 PM
LOL

I just seen it on UEFA right now..HOW???

Why is he playing this lineup? TERRIBLE....

Bossa it looks like this on UEFA

----------------------Helton-----------------------
--Bosingwa--------Alves-------Pepe---------Cech--
---------------R.Costa------Assuncao-------------
---------Lucho--------------------Meiereles--------
---------------Lisandro--------Quaresma-----------

UEFA usually get it wrong, I'd say my formation will be more accurate.

But TBH its such a sh1t line up its hard to tell :(

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 05:23 PM
It looks like JF is going to once again embarass the travelling fans.

3,300 tonight.

And he puts out this squad :(

Oh man, we need a miracle

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 05:26 PM
UEFA usually get it wrong, I'd say my formation will be more accurate.

But TBH its such a sh1t line up its hard to tell :(

Yeah I know..regardless is stupid..omfg..we should be playing the same formation (first leg)

i dont give a **** if postiga/adriano/baia was striker..but the same formation at least..it almost worked.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 05:27 PM
Horrible, simply horrible.

What sort of sh1tty lineup is that?!!

Didn't he learn from the first Arsenal fixture?!

Besides, postiga did pretty good vs chelsea last game..why take out a striker?!

why stop playing a formation the team has been playing for months and throw something completly new in the mix?!

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 05:29 PM
We are playing 5 defenders (Fucile, pepe, alves, cech, r.costa), 3 defensive minded mids (meireles, assuncao, lucho) a winger (quaresma) and a side striker (licha)

Surely a 12 year old with some FM experience could choose better.

Im baffled.

Its either the worst line up ever, or JF is a genius (yeah right)

Oh man.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 05:30 PM
Lisandro is a support striker, nothing more.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 05:31 PM
Maybe hes trying to suck in chelseas players..get them in a lull where they are controlling the game and then BAM

Postiga/adriano come on and porto play the formation they did last leg and control the game.

Who knows. Might catch Chelsea off guard but I doubt.

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 05:33 PM
I guess he wants to defend a 0-0 and try and fluke a goal at the end, which is what I'd probably try.

But this is TOO defensive.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 05:35 PM
We are playing 5 defenders (Fucile, pepe, alves, cech, r.costa), 3 defensive minded mids (meireles, assuncao, lucho) a winger (quaresma) and a side striker (licha)

Surely a 12 year old with some FM experience could choose better.

Im baffled.

Its either the worst line up ever, or JF is a genius (yeah right)

Oh man.

Hopefully Carvalho, Essien and Boulahourz(subbed in) all pick up injuries in the first 10 minutes, they'll be out of subs! and out of defenders!

:laugh

And then Drogba and Shevchenko can score but we can outscore them :nod

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 05:35 PM
Yup, your basically inviting chelsea on a carefree path to get within 18 metres of your goal.

DvA
Mar 6 2007, 05:41 PM
Ricardo Costa as Right back? LOLOLOLOLOL

DvA
Mar 6 2007, 05:44 PM
FCUK ME AHAHHAHAH i just realised there aren't strikers in teh lineup AAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHA


WTF????1!!! AHAHAHAHAH Jesulaod is a master tactician LOL, he is losing and play for the draw? :laugh holy fcuk

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 05:44 PM
Robben will rape him.

My God, I cant believe what I'm seeing on tv.

LOL Lisandro and Quaresma look pissed, they both know their going to be alone up front:laugh :laugh

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 05:45 PM
FCUK ME AHAHHAHAH i just realised there aren't strikers in teh lineup AAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHA


WTF????1!!! AHAHAHAHAH Jesulaod is a master tactician LOL, he is losing and play for the draw? :laugh holy fcuk


didnt you read the past page?

ffs lisandro is a support striker at most.

but Bruno, the best is ricardo costa on the team, hes not good enough to start for porto in the league, yet hes good enough to play vs chelsea in CL?!?!


:holy247

G_Postal
Mar 6 2007, 06:00 PM
ugh. blah. cech could have done better

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 06:01 PM
Hahahahhahahahaha


Yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Quaresmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaaa

I ******* Love Him


I ******* Love Him I ******* Love Him


Hahahah Yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:02 PM
AHAHAHA

1-0!

HOW? WITH THIS TEAM?

how i ask.

Shockwave
Mar 6 2007, 06:03 PM
yes come on porto!!!! 1-0. quality

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 06:04 PM
AHAHAHA

1-0!

HOW? WITH THIS TEAM?

how i ask.


I dont know, horrible lineup.

Chelsea will come and smash them.

Jesualdo will play super defensive now for sure!

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:07 PM
I dont know, horrible lineup.

Chelsea will come and smash them.

Jesualdo will play super defensive now for sure!

Have Faith :holy247

G_Postal
Mar 6 2007, 06:09 PM
oh man ballack is playing? first time i notice him. kick him out

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:10 PM
Porto's passing is pretty good today. A couple of nice runs :D

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:11 PM
omg close one..Quaresma pratically gave it away..but Shevchenko didn't finish :)

G_Postal
Mar 6 2007, 06:15 PM
again. looks like man utd did sign ballack. he's just undercover.

lamps is poor today aswell

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:15 PM
AHA G postal

theres Ballack, completely missed the ball

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 06:17 PM
It's only a matter of time....


Quaresma is all alone in attack, feel sorry ofr the guy.

But lisandro is playing well with what hes getting.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:17 PM
******* Pepe almost cost us a goal...thank god Lampard missed it

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:21 PM
yes, Robben yellow..a dive.

G_Postal
Mar 6 2007, 06:21 PM
man robben is such an idiot. but the porto defender was a cvnt too

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 06:22 PM
Massive dive by Robben.

Indirect freekick in dangerous position

G_Postal
Mar 6 2007, 06:26 PM
little pepe diver

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:27 PM
no yellow, and no foul, goodjob Pepe!

DvA
Mar 6 2007, 06:37 PM
Porto will be lucky to get this result, they cant attack, and the Quaresma beside sthe goal is playing like sh1t, failed all his dribbles, lost the ball once in a dangerous position etc..

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 06:37 PM
I still think Chelsea will win, as they are starting to put pressure on us, but an amazing 1st half display.

Nobody could have imagined this line up would give this 1st half display.

The second half will be 10 times tougher, but I am proud so far, I only hope we maintain this into the second half.

FORCA PORTO ALLEZ

CMON LADS!!!!!!

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 06:39 PM
Porto will be lucky to get this result, they cant attack, and the Quaresma beside sthe goal is playing like sh1t, failed all his dribbles, lost the ball once in a dangerous position etc..


considering hes one of TWO players in the chelsea half of the field..and has 3 players marking him whenever he gets the ball ..its to be expected..no one to pass to.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:41 PM
Costa should come out for Postiga...we've created some runs but the finishes...wait a second there are no finishes..

after the ball is moved up we can't do jack ****..Postiga/Adriano should come in.

DvA
Mar 6 2007, 06:44 PM
considering hes one of TWO players in the chelsea half of the field..and has 3 players marking him whenever he gets the ball ..its to be expected..no one to pass to.
whats the excuse when he was alone with essien, or when he lost teh ball in the dangerous position? lol u always find excuses for everything man

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 06:44 PM
Nah, the formation is working right now, I wouldn't change it.

Chelsea have no space right now, and if we take off costa for a striker, then there will be space.

We have to play like Nacional de Madeira or someone tonight.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 06:45 PM
Exactly.

Quaresma and lisandro are getting into good positions, but in the end they have no one up the field with them and they stop and lose the ball because theres no-one to pass to.


maybe take out marek cech for postiga..leave ricardo costa in so he could be a nuisence and be that third CB to make things harder for chelseas forwards..but he will also make thigns harder for porto:ninja

Porto wont hold on playing like this though...its only a matter of time.

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 06:46 PM
Quaresma is doing well attacking, but poor defending.

Losing balls in key areas etc

But attacking he is doing well, he scored, a great pass to meireles, also he is all alone, thats why he often loses the ball up front too.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 06:46 PM
whats the excuse when he was alone with essien, or when he lost teh ball in the dangerous position? lol u always find excuses for everything man


How about when he dribbled ashley cole that one time but peter cech collected his cross.

How come u dont mention that:(

we're both biased:salute

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 06:48 PM
Quaresma is doing well attacking, but poor defending.

Losing balls in key areas etc

But attacking he is doing well, he scored, a great pass to meireles, also he is all alone, thats why he often loses the ball up front too.


EXACTLY

I think in the last 10 minutes if by the miracle of Allah porto is still winning, and chelsea is throwing everything forward put on a striker and finish them on the counter if possible.

But for porto and their fans the next 45 minutes will seem like a lifetime.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:48 PM
Game back on.

Wonder what subs JF is going to use. I'm guessing Alan will be the first one.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:49 PM
Obi Mikel in..

not sure who came out, probably Maks

Fowksee
Mar 6 2007, 06:49 PM
I dont see why your all so negative, the gameplan is working perfect!!

Plus Chelsea are playing Sh!t.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:51 PM
I dont see why your all so negative, the gameplan is working perfect!!

Plus Chelsea are playing Sh!t.

The formation is a joke. :laugh

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 06:51 PM
The formation is a joke. :laugh


Also some of the players on the field for porto are a joke.

Mourinho asking SWP to warm up.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 06:52 PM
I can;t believe he took maka off but left Ballack on...

G_Postal
Mar 6 2007, 06:52 PM
Lol Pwn

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:52 PM
I can;t believe he took maka off but left Ballack on...

Hes giving his former club a chance :)

Fowksee
Mar 6 2007, 06:52 PM
Fvckin keepr :rolleyes:

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:53 PM
omg Helton....

Robben scores from outside the box..

Helton should of had that.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 06:53 PM
Obvious this was coming.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 06:57 PM
Thats about it..its downhill now I guess.

We gave away the lead way to early..and on an easy save for Helton..

They are going to kills us now

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 06:57 PM
What a Frango by Helton, ruined all of portos hard work in one act of inept stupidity.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 07:01 PM
Cech and meireles off.

Ibson and adriano on.

Ibson..WTF:o

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:01 PM
Adriano finally on.

Ibson don't know why.

And Helton sucks today.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 07:02 PM
Ricardo costa with a ridicuilous play:laugh :laugh

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:03 PM
Defense can't handle the pressure now..

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 07:04 PM
Heltons Frango ruined everything.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:07 PM
**** Adriano, that pass was to hard :(

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 07:10 PM
Ferriera coming on for Diarra.

Come on Quaresma, rape him:devil

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:12 PM
come on helton....

meh hit the wall

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:16 PM
Helton falls...

jesus. wtf

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 07:17 PM
Helton is playing horrible

Quaresma dribbles 2 players, damnit didnt go on:@

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:23 PM
Robben is killing us, shots, dribbles all of it!

We are kinda getting back into the game, but just barley

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:24 PM
Ballack scores............................................ .................

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 07:24 PM
JF is a moron.

oh well..good news is that if porto score they go through on away goals:laugh :laugh

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:25 PM
I doubt we will score..but thats about it. It's going to end this way, we can't attack

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:35 PM
god damn it Adriano..waits for the ball, move your ass!

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:36 PM
come on still 4 minutes :ninja

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 07:36 PM
Paulo Assuncao is a fantastic player.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:40 PM
Game over.

Robben, Essien and Assuncao were the best players for me.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 07:43 PM
Yup Agree.

Helton cost porto the game..who knows what could have happened if he didnt let that frango in.

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 07:44 PM
I couldn't be prouder of the team, absolutely amazing performance from each and every one of them (apart from Helton, and Quaresma in 2nd half)

We went to stamford bridge and defended well, took a lead, and they couldn't find an opening.

Helton gave them that opening...but thats football

Chelsea played absolutely sh1t, they have one of the best squads in the world, playing at home versus a team they were expected to walk all over, and they grind out the win.

Well done to all the boys :clap

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 07:51 PM
RTP1 commentators were cvnts tonight.

Orgasming all over Chelsea and Mourinho

"Chelsea have played excellently and deserve the win"

Were they watching the same match???

Chelsea were sh1t.

They should stop cumming over Mourinho, and support their sides more.

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 07:52 PM
RTP1 commentators were cvnts tonight.

Orgasming all over Chelsea and Mourinho

"Chelsea have played excellently and deserve the win"

Were they watching the same match???

Chelsea were sh1t.

They should stop cumming over Mourinho, and support their sides more.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:52 PM
Yup good game indeed. Very entertaining, but some players weren't up to their usual selves...but considering the formation, and playing against Chelsea with having to score to win on their minds I think we did well.

We had a few good runs but couldn't complete them. The players did do their job but I must say JF didn't.

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 07:54 PM
JF did well equinox.

His gameplan worked to perfection.

If it wasn't for Heltons frango then who knows where we could have gone

porkchop_pryde
Mar 6 2007, 07:55 PM
Yup good game indeed. Very entertaining, but some players weren't up to their usual selves...but considering the formation, and playing against Chelsea with having to score to win on their minds I think we did well.

We had a few good runs but couldn't complete them. The players did do their job but I must say JF didn't.

no Helton didnt

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 07:56 PM
Quaresma was invisiuble in the second half, a major factor in porto struggling to vreate chances. Although he scored the goal playing out of position in JF's tactic and lineup..cant expect more.

And i dont even have to start on Helton...

You know..if anderson was fit and porto played their usual formation..i really think you would have beaten chelsea.

They were horrible and only won because helton did a frango of the highest order.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 07:58 PM
JF did well equinox.

His gameplan worked to perfection.

If it wasn't for Heltons frango then who knows where we could have gone


Yup, we would all be celebrating right now probably.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 07:59 PM
JF did well equinox.

His gameplan worked to perfection.

If it wasn't for Heltons frango then who knows where we could have gone

Did you see how many times Chelsea ran down the wings? No one was there at times.

We had nobody up when we passed half with the ball.

It may have worked defensively..but we needed to score.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 08:00 PM
no Helton didnt

thats a given but you know what i mean :nod

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 08:00 PM
Helton for a while this season hasn't looked super solid like he used to.

Even against braga he palmed a shot right to the fight of Ze Carlos.

However, he wasn't the only one to make mistakes tonight.

Robben should have been closed down and not allowed to shoot...

B.Alves didn't accompany Ballack for the 2nd goal...

Quaresma and Ibson often lost the ball etc etc

Its just that as a Keeper, any bad mistakes are punished unforgivably.

He was unfortunate, but has been a good keeper for us...

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 08:01 PM
It would of been good if we had Bosingwa aswell..I'm confident he could have played with Robben..not saying he would tackle him everytime but Bosingwa is quick.

The first leg I said our wings were crucial..Bosingwa/Fucile/Quaresma/Lisandro all had to play at their best level to succeed.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 08:02 PM
Helton for a while this season hasn't looked super solid like he used to.

Even against braga he palmed a shot right to the fight of Ze Carlos.

However, he wasn't the only one to make mistakes tonight.

Robben should have been closed down and not allowed to shoot...

B.Alves didn't accompany Ballack for the 2nd goal...

Quaresma and Ibson often lost the ball etc etc

Its just that as a Keeper, any bad mistakes are punished unforgivably.

He was unfortunate, but has been a good keeper for us...

I Seriously expected Alan to come in instead of Ibson to add more width..and Postiga instead of Moraes.

I didn't see the point with Ibson, I'm sorry but he was not needed.

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 08:03 PM
Did you see how many times Chelsea ran down the wings? No one was there at times.

We had nobody up when we passed half with the ball.

It may have worked defensively..but we needed to score.

We did.

And I think JFs attitude to the 2nd half was correct.

Just keep things as they are, and see what happens.

He was hoping it would be 0-0 at 70mins and Mourinho would put on Kalou for Diarra or something, then JF would bring on another forward etc

But the Helton goal made our task infinitely difficult.

We must remember that JF doesn't have 20m euro players on the bench, or a team assembled by a billionaire.

I am often a critic of JF, but only when I feel he deserves criticism. Tonight he took Chelsea to the limit, with a team nowhere near the quality.

Over 2 legs we lost by a goalkeeping error.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 08:06 PM
We did.

And I think JFs attitude to the 2nd half was correct.

Just keep things as they are, and see what happens.

He was hoping it would be 0-0 at 70mins and Mourinho would put on Kalou for Diarra or something, then JF would bring on another forward etc

But the Helton goal made our task infinitely difficult.

We must remember that JF doesn't have 20m euro players on the bench, or a team assembled by a billionaire.

I am often a critic of JF, but only when I feel he deserves criticism. Tonight he took Chelsea to the limit, with a team nowhere near the quality.

Over 2 legs we lost by a goalkeeping error.

I know what you are saying but against a team like Chelsea? They are deadly all the time. They have pratically scored in every single game this year. I knew Chelsea would score, I'm pretty sure everybody knew that but what my plan would of been scoring 2 goals, yes its difficult but I would of added a striker from the start and keep pressure on Chelsea aswell..

Like what pisses me off is that we had a few runs but couldn't finish..not because we suck but because no one was ever there..and when some one was there it was players like Meiereles..

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 08:07 PM
Ratings:

Helton-1.5 Installed no confidence in defence, frango for goal
Fucile-4 Outstanding in defence and attack
Pepe-4 Dealt with Drogba well
B.Alves-3.5 Did well for the most part
R.Costa-3 Did well defensively, bad in attack
Assuncao-5 MOM Flawless
Meireles-3.5 Did his job
Cech-3.5 did his job
Lucho-3.5 Great pass for the goal, faded in 2nd half
Quaresma-2.5/3 got the goal, did ok 1st half, invisible 2nd
Licha-4 Always fighting, holding the ball up, superb

Subs:

Ibson-2.5 Added nothing
Adriano-2.5 No service, did ok with what he got
B.Moraes-2 Poor decision by JF to bring him on IMO

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 08:11 PM
I think Alves had a good game, like better than his league performances. He cleared the ball many times even went it went out but who cares it removes the danger.

Lucho was great with his passes, but did you see when he flicked the ball up? He shouldn't have done that..there was someone on his right, he should of passed it.

Fucile wasn't selfish as he usually is, he ran up and down the field just like I expected him to. I was really worried when he got knocked in the head..we needed someone like him today with pace and if he came off that would of been a big blow.

Assuncao = What a performance.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 08:12 PM
I agree with all your rates.

Fucile, Assuncao, Pepe, and lisandro were superb.

I am very dissapoined with Quaresma in the second half, he seemed to be scared to take charge of the match like he has done so many times in the past. He was scared to have the ball at his feet.



Quaresma and lucho, probably your two "biggest" players both seemed intimidated when they had to pick up their balls and guide their team out of the storm.

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 08:14 PM
Porto have a good team, a very young team and are only missing one or two players to really challange next year in the CL.

Do you think porto will be considering buying a new keeper now..after helton cost you the game?

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 08:16 PM
I agree with all your rates.

Fucile, Assuncao, Pepe, and lisandro were superb.

I am very dissapoined with Quaresma in the second half, he seemed to be scared to take charge of the match like he has done so many times in the past. He was scared to have the ball at his feet.



Quaresma Lucho & Helton, probably your three "biggest" players, all 3 seemed intimidated when they had to pick up their balls and guide their team out of the storm.
Sorry had to add that because it is true aswell..hes a fantastic keeper, fantastic.

What he showed today made me sick..I've never seen him this bad..Scared to catch the balls in the air...that was low for Helton.

Hes so confident with the ball at his feet too..he slips on it and couldn't kick it properly.

And the goal...:holy247

G_Postal
Mar 6 2007, 08:18 PM
please... porto or any portuguese team is miles from mouting a real challenge to the CL. mourinho's gone, lets forget those dreams.

and tbh i dont see a better keeper than helton for a realistics $$

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 08:19 PM
Porto have a good team, a very young team and are only missing one or two players to really challange next year in the CL.

Do you think porto will be considering buying a new keeper now..after helton cost you the game?

No way...

Helton, Baia, Ribiero is good enough.

Plus Vale on loan.

We need a prolific striker, who can score.

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 08:20 PM
G Postal speaks sense, hes right.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 08:22 PM
We'll win the league.
Get a UEFA CL Spot.
Finish 3rd.
Get dropped down to UEFA Cup
Win UEFA Cup

..........but wait a second, don't you make more money in CL if you go to the quarters than winning UEFA Cup?

grassman
Mar 6 2007, 08:23 PM
please... porto or any portuguese team is miles from mouting a real challenge to the CL. mourinho's gone, lets forget those dreams.

and tbh i dont see a better keeper than helton for a realistics $$

Your attitude is reason why the Dragao is mostly half empty .

G_Postal
Mar 6 2007, 08:26 PM
your attitude is typical of a naive kid who lives in toronto and cant grasp THE REALITY of football today

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 08:27 PM
Your attitude is reason why the Dragao is mostly half empty .

hes a Benfica fan number one.

hes right

and Porto's percentage is better than anyone elses in the league when it comes to filling up their stadium (well this is last years stats..but it shouldn't be different)

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 08:28 PM
Your attitude is reason why the Dragao is mostly half empty .

When?

We get an average of 38-40,000 in a 50k stadium.


In fact, Benfica usually have the same (or less sometimes if you are losing), and when you have 60% of the nation supporting you its not right...

Bossanova
Mar 6 2007, 08:29 PM
We'll win the league.
Get a UEFA CL Spot.
Finish 3rd.
Get dropped down to UEFA Cup
Win UEFA Cup

..........but wait a second, don't you make more money in CL if you go to the quarters than winning UEFA Cup?

Yeah, mainly due to sponsors.

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 08:31 PM
When?

We get an average of 38-40,000 in a 50k stadium.


In fact, Benfica usually have the same (or less sometimes if you are losing), and when you have 60% of the nation supporting you its not right...

and a bigger stadium


ps did anyone see Mancini's goal

He destroyed the defender and ripped it past the keeper :laugh

nicodemus
Mar 6 2007, 08:37 PM
Yah 8 stepovers before pushing it by the defender:laugh :laugh

Simaofan-20
Mar 6 2007, 11:30 PM
Told you Porto wouldn't beat Chelsea

equinox24
Mar 6 2007, 11:43 PM
Told you Porto wouldn't beat Chelsea

wow...pathetic.

iowa
Mar 7 2007, 12:24 AM
sad to see porto go out, was really fun watching them, especially quaresma.

nicodemus
Mar 7 2007, 12:40 AM
Told you Porto wouldn't beat Chelsea



funny thing is..if it was our benfica..we would have been smashed.

Even porto missing key players anderson and bosingwa and lucho and quaresma not in their best form they only went out because of a goalkeeping blunder of ricardoesque preportions.


They were one centimetre away on a quaresma shot from dumping out chelsea.

Bossanova
Mar 7 2007, 10:12 AM
We were missing our captain, and Anderson.

2 hugely important players, but so were Chelsea.

Simaofan, Benfica lost twice to Man Utd, at least we drew with Chelsea at home :nod

Bossanova
Mar 7 2007, 10:56 AM
None of the portuguese papers had Porto as the main headline today

Fvckers

ojogo didn't even mention Porto on the front page, what disrespect, we took the best team in the world (or at least in top 5) to the limit, and they beat us due to a goalkeeping error.

And not even a real mention.

If they want to talk about Derlei and Luisao go ahead.

Because Benfica in a crappy UEFA cup match is a bigger story huh?

Hurley
Mar 7 2007, 03:59 PM
Porto have a good team, a very young team and are only missing one or two players to really challange next year in the CL.

Do you think porto will be considering buying a new keeper now..after helton cost you the game?

lol? He's been our goalkeeper for over a year and this is the first real blunder that I've seen from him.

MeTaL
Mar 7 2007, 04:41 PM
porto still deserves repect for what they accomplished! :bowing
but now they can call it a season and let benfica
win the liga :ninja

Bossanova
Mar 7 2007, 10:00 PM
lol? He's been our goalkeeper for over a year and this is the first real blunder that I've seen from him.

Exactly.

He is a very good keeper, and one mistake will not make me change my mind on him.

Lets look on the bright side, now he probably won't be bought by a european superpower in the summer :)