What difference a wk makes..

[brezipool]

Alan Kennedy was on before the European game this week, he pointed out that we never had a home game for 3 weeks, all away games, so the confidence got shot to feck with the defeats, now we have had 3 home games & 1 home game tmrw, confidence is back up, so hopefully we will take that into next away game?

[faisal1982]

A week has only made a difference of 1win in the Prem and 1 win in CL.....you aint on the path to the treble you know

[Red Man]

Stop hijacking my thread you bunch of f_uckers, outside, the lot of ya..:laugh

[leeman]

A week has only made a difference of 1win in the Prem and 1 win in CL.....you aint on the path to the treble you know


a week has produced 10 goals, all for attacking players, and improved our confidence. thats a hell of a big deal

plus, is this thread fvcked up on anyone elses browser?? my post is before reb mans first post if you know what i mean, and marked as post 4 when its post 20-odd

[faisal1982]

a week has produced 10 goals, all for attacking players, and improved our confidence. thats a hell of a big deal

plus, is this thread fvcked up on anyone elses browser?? my post is before reb mans first post if you know what i mean, and marked as post 4 when its post 20-odd

I see what you mean but things can turn around just as quick, but this does seem like the time that Liverpool will go on one of their mad 10 wins in a row phase i really hope it isnt though

Yeah mines messing up the same messages are going everywhere and not in order like normal

[Red Man]

All right chaps. Morning everyone (in a richie benaud stylee)
What a difference a wk makes in the football world eh? This time last wk the media were all chatting bubbles about gerrards bird getting ragged, possible rifts between rafa & gerrard, boardroom splits, etc, etc. All doom and gloom according to the press.

All rumours about alex curran are just that at the moment. Gerrard is insistent they are still together and its all nonsense, and if the NOTW have something, why arent they releasing it? A court injunction put in by gerrard a couple of wks ago when he missed the bordeaux game with an 'injury' or could it be that some mischeif making everton mongrel taxi driver has decided to spin a yarn a la the fowler 'co ke snorting video' which was another figment of someones imagination? I side with the latter.

The gerrard/rafa rift story, judging by the fact it was leaked by that manc sc umbag paddy crerrand, would seem to suggest an orchestrated campaign from man u to try and unsettle him after all, 2 yrs on the bounce chelsea managed to do it, maybe they think they can? Rooney and Neville in interviews saying they would love to see him join Man U, then rumours of a rift again eminating from the man u camp. I smell a rat. Gerrard has came out quite bluntly and said the rumours are boll_ocks, I would like to see him go one step further and make reference to setting off a 'dirty b_omb' in old trafford(ok not literally but you get the jist!), or some other outrageous remark to make it quite clear he would never join that god forsaken club!

The boardroom split has been blown out the water as basically one renegade pr_ick ie Noel White, deciding to voice his own personal opinions to a tabliod journalist. Never liked him, I think he became our chairman for a short period during the time dalglish resigned & the souness period which was arguably the worst period in our modern football history, before being ousted, coz he was ca_ck. Look under 'Noel White' in the new collins dictionary and you will probably see the description 'c_unt', says it all for me! Now this has all been exposed, it has actually worked to galvanise support for rafa, from the players, crowd and boardroom, so its all good in the end.

Results are what any manager lives and dies by at the end of the day, and 3 wins in a wk, have given a feel good factor about the place. Given this, and the fact rafa has finally seemed to have found arguably his best 11 and played them for 2 games on the bounce, things are definitely on the up. Hurrah.:dk


We are already in the last 16 of the CL, and hopefully a settled side, with gerrard stating his desire to stay for many yrs, can put a run together of the same magnitude of this time last season (10 wins on the bounce would be nice!) can propel us back up the table!

The reds are coming up the hill boys...:clap

[leeman]

good post mate, and what a difference a week does make. struggling to find the net and break teams down, also looking disjointed, then suddenly 10 goals in a week, some good, flowing football and a settled team.
a run of good results and equally important clean sheets to help a slightly underconfident defence would help us out no end

[mancboyhudson]

Liverpool have looked a lot better and like the Liverpool that everyone knows over the past week.

It's no coincidence that the 3 wins in a week have came at home where you've never really had a problem.

The problem is winning away from home and you'll have to sort that out sooner or later and possibly next week with an easy trip to Arsenal.

[spen71]

good post mate, and what a difference a week does make. struggling to find the net and break teams down, also looking disjointed, then suddenly 10 goals in a week, some good, flowing football and a settled team.
a run of good results and equally important clean sheets to help a slightly underconfident defence would help us out no end

We need the clean sheets defo.

[leeman]

Liverpool have looked a lot better and like the Liverpool that everyone knows over the past week.

It's no coincidence that the 3 wins in a week have came at home where you've never really had a problem.

The problem is winning away from home and you'll have to sort that out sooner or later and possibly next week with an easy trip to Arsenal.


arsenal are beautiful to watch if you sit back and elt them play their game, as good on the eye as any team in the world IMO. getin their faces, however, tackle them hard and close them down, they are a different side, they have no plan "B". they dont get men in the box and they dont take a game by the scruff of the neck when the going gets tough.
at anfield last season we did all of the above, sissoko gave fabragas nightmares, and if it wasnt for an inspired lehmann, it would have been 3 or 4 nil. at highbury tho, we let them dictate the pace and paid the consequences

[mancboyhudson]

arsenal are beautiful to watch if you sit back and elt them play their game, as good on the eye as any team in the world IMO. getin their faces, however, tackle them hard and close them down, they are a different side, they have no plan "B". they dont get men in the box and they dont take a game by the scruff of the neck when the going gets tough.
at anfield last season we did all of the above, sissoko gave fabragas nightmares, and if it wasnt for an inspired lehmann, it would have been 3 or 4 nil. at highbury tho, we let them dictate the pace and paid the consequences

Couldn't agree more.

When we beat them this season (Still the only team to beat them in the premiership:laugh ) we got stuck into them from the off and they don't like it and that's really the only way you can get at Arsenal because if you try to play them at their own game then they'll piss all over most teams in the world if im being honest.

If you let the likes of Fabregas, Rosicky, Henry get on the ball and pass it about them they'll take the piss but if you get stuck in and keep it tight for the first half hour or so they begin to get frustrated and the fans start getting on their backs and they don't like it one bit.

[leeman]

thats a point about the crowd, cos if theyve done it once, theyll do it again when things get tough, which henry admitted, gets on the players backs. so, simply, frustrate the players, frustrate the crowd, and happy days!!!

[Red Opal]

thats a point about the crowd, cos if theyve done it once, theyll do it again when things get tough, which henry admitted, gets on the players backs. so, simply, frustrate the players, frustrate the crowd, and happy days!!!

On the Arsenal crowd - Ive seen the 2 home Champions league games theyve played and really really cant believe how empty the stadium is even 15 minutes before the final whistle. Look at the stand on the side of the pitch that the camera faces - its unture how many empty seats there were.

Im presuming its executive seats but still...

[mancboyhudson]

On another forum i use an Arsenal fan who goes to the games made a long post about Arsenal fans and most of his post was with regards to how empty the whole of the stadium is with 20 minutes to go despite it being a close game.

[leeman]

they might have shot themselves in the foot a little to be honest. they spent all that cash on a stadium with 20,00 extra seats which they dont actually need

[scottdc]

Hahha yer and they havent actually made it a fortress like highbury was , tbh their home form is a load of ****

[mancboyhudson]

I think they've only won 2 home games out of 5 in the leauge and they were against Watford and Sheff United.....

[scottdc]

I think they've only won 2 home games out of 5 in the leauge and they were against Watford and Sheff United.....

exactly , they have been lucky to draw against everton , boro and villa.

Then in a stupid act of defiance wenger blames teams strategy's when they come to the emirates. He thinks its taking the honus away from his team when everyone one else thinks hes a moaney old frenchman who cant accept that his team are better away from home

[welshwizard]

they might have shot themselves in the foot a little to be honest. they spent all that cash on a stadium with 20,00 extra seats which they dont actually need

They don't give a feck mate. The crowd leaving early isn't a concern as they've paid the full price for the ticket.

[welshwizard]

exactly , they have been lucky to draw against everton , boro and villa.


Did you see the possession and shots on goal stats for those games???

Lucky??? :laugh :laugh

[scottdc]

Did you see the possession and shots on goal stats for those games???

Lucky??? :laugh :laugh

so what it matters nothing when you only score one out of 10 chances, you dont really deserve to win if you cant get a better strike ratio out of that with players like henry and rosicky.

And also :

the teams that got points away at the emirates were unlucky not to get 3 points especially villa. Wenger bemoaning other sides way of playing arsenal and not accepting they are poopr finishers of late and then even more of example was wednesday night , they couldnt hit a barn door

[welshwizard]

so what it matters nothing when you only score one out of 10 chances, you dont really deserve to win if you cant get a better strike ratio out of that with players like henry and rosicky.

And also :

the teams that got points away at the emirates were unlucky not to get 3 points especially villa. Wenger bemoaning other sides way of playing arsenal and not accepting they are poopr finishers of late and then even more of example was wednesday night , they couldnt hit a barn door

Can you explain why those three sides were unlucky???

[scottdc]

Can you explain why those three sides were unlucky???
maybe boro werent unlucky.

Villa were unlucky as they probably should have scored twice in the second half against arsenal, they were far more clinical with their shooting and arsenal got out of jail with a late gilberto strike.

My point at the beginning was that i think with arsenal's home record being what it is , we have a very good chance to beating them next weekend.

[welshwizard]

maybe boro werent unlucky.

Villa were unlucky as they probably should have scored twice in the second half against arsenal, they were far more clinical with their shooting and arsenal got out of jail with a late gilberto strike.

My point at the beginning was that i think with arsenal's home record being what it is , we have a very good chance to beating them next weekend.

Your away record being what it is you have no fecking chance!!! :laugh

I know what you are saying. Arsenal came from behind in those games but I wouldn't say they were unlucky as they did everything but score in those games.

[scottdc]

Your away record being what it is you have no fecking chance!!! :laugh

I know what you are saying. Arsenal came from behind in those games but I wouldn't say they were unlucky as they did everything but score in those games.

haha i hoped you wouldnt bring that up.

a bad home record and a bad away record , something unexpected is going to happen thats for sure . Probably a 0-0 draw

[Gaurav]

i think our away form is a bit of a mental thing.we should get over it,when we will get a result.

[SMG316]

I knew it was never as doom n gloom as some made it out to be.

Just 2 points less than the same time last season (before the Villa game) and we've got 4 of out 5 hardest games out of the way....wheras I dont think we had played any of them that early last season.

Now the relatively easier games will come and we'll climb up the table. The only worry is that I cant really see Chelsea droping so many points.....

I fully expect a win against reading today, we're on the back of good form and beat them last week.

:drinkbeer

[Gaurav]

i dont think chelsea dropping points matters anymore.we are not going to win the league.not even in my wildest dreams.i just hope we get a respectable total and try for 3rd or even 2nd spot.

[brezipool]

U never know mate, if can get close to them by january, say 6 points. were back in it!

esp. since we have a 10 game final run in playing none of the top teams.

[faisal1982]

You have got great things to look forward to with Kuyt in te team, now all you need is a regular partner for him

[Gaurav]

crouch?

[Gaurav]

U never know mate, if can get close to them by january, say 6 points. were back in it!

esp. since we have a 10 game final run in playing none of the top teams.

most of those teams will be in the relegation dog fight.it wont be that easy.

[brezipool]

Been a good weekend for us, a lot of teams dropped points above us, including chelski & Arsenal.

[SILVI0]

A week has only made a difference of 1win in the Prem and 1 win in CL.....you aint on the path to the treble you know

That 1 champions league win has put Liverpool through to the last 16, if man u slip up v benfica I'd start to worry if I were you

[SMG316]

U never know mate, if can get close to them by january, say 6 points. were back in it!

esp. since we have a 10 game final run in playing none of the top teams.

Exactly!!!!!!!

Too many people have been far to quick to write us off, last year we drew too many games we shouldve won.

If we can sort them out and turn 1 point into 3.....we're definitely still in there.

Chelsea have shown again theyre not unbeatable & utd will never be able to keep up the pace at which theyre currently going.

Both will drop sufficient points to let us back in imo, I just hope we up our game.

Next week is vital- arsenal way, we lost 2-1 last year but got absolutely dominated I thought....theyve just lost to Hammers and their home form isnt brilliant (being a new stadium n all- bound to have an effect).

If we cant beat them now. we'll never be able to beat them away.

utd away
Chelsea away
everton away
bolton away
Arse away

Imo theyre our 5 hardest games in a season.....all out of the way. Sure 4 losses thus far is far from ideal- but also far from the end of the world :nono

[brezipool]

Aye totally agree with that mate. But we really need to take something of arsenal. If we lost to them the confidence would be shot again, and im not sure we could recover. Even a draw would be okay, to keep the confidence going.

But I really do think we will beat them, our lads are starting to play some good stuff, strikers scoring, defenders getting more confident, Stevie G starting to get back to his best, and the squad is being used well now, Zenden & pennant, not fisrt choice but good enough to beat the lesser teams which is giving the top players a good rest for the big games!!

[Shanks]

The real test now is Arsenal on Sunday though, thats what will make or break the recent weeks.

[mancboyhudson]

As i've said before Liverpools real issues don't come at home and thier home form is not something that's been questioned.

The real test for Liverpool is winning on the road in the premiership and that's something they need to start doing beginning with an easy trip to Arsenal at the weekend.

[liverbird04]

I know its not home games that are the problem but it is nice to get some confidence back by having a run of home games ,it just seemed we went from one difficult away game to another with no let up and no chance to get things together.

[spen71]

I know its not home games that are the problem but it is nice to get some confidence back by having a run of home games ,it just seemed we went from one difficult away game to another with no let up and no chance to get things together.

After the Arsenal game we have a run of playing teams who are not considered to be big, so I expect a good return from them.

[Shanks]

The run has to START at Arsenal, not after it, or it means nothing.

If u want to be Champions, u have to be able to beat the best.

[brezipool]

This is true. Gonna be a good game, thay re playing well, and so are we.

I just hope we play well tommorow, to give the squad more confidence going to the emeriates.

[Tim18]

Exactly!!!!!!!

Too many people have been far to quick to write us off, last year we drew too many games we shouldve won.

If we can sort them out and turn 1 point into 3.....we're definitely still in there.

Chelsea have shown again theyre not unbeatable & utd will never be able to keep up the pace at which theyre currently going.

Both will drop sufficient points to let us back in imo, I just hope we up our game.

Next week is vital- arsenal way, we lost 2-1 last year but got absolutely dominated I thought....theyve just lost to Hammers and their home form isnt brilliant (being a new stadium n all- bound to have an effect).

If we cant beat them now. we'll never be able to beat them away.

utd away
Chelsea away
everton away
bolton away
Arse away

Imo theyre our 5 hardest games in a season.....all out of the way. Sure 4 losses thus far is far from ideal- but also far from the end of the world :nono

Make that 5 losses out of 5 now.

Don't forget Fulham away, I don't think your record is brilliant there.

[Slug]

The past 2 weeks mean feck all now. All this talk about the 5 losses being our 5 hardest games, I seriously doubt United, Arsenal or Chelsea will lose more than 2 of those games.

[mancboyhudson]

The past 2 weeks mean feck all now. All this talk about the 5 losses being our 5 hardest games, I seriously doubt United, Arsenal or Chelsea will lose more than 2 of those games.

Boro up next aswell. They've won their last 3 home games and have already beaten Chelsea at the Riverside this season. Certainly won't be easy and i reckon some more points dropped on the road for Liverpool.

However you've got us the week after so 3 points in the bag for you lot there.

[brezipool]

Just curious, but can anybody remeber a time when we have played all 4 of our big rivals away from home this early in the season?

[leeman]

no, but i cant remember the last time we got completely played off the park by three of them, either

[Shanks]

Right Back To Square One.

[liverbird04]

Its clear we are playing for fourth ,thats our 'level' ,simple as that ,throw in a good cup run here and there .

Funny thing is that considerign Liverpool have been showing relegation form away from home we are still not that far from fourth place ,what does that say about the rest of the premiership ? its competitive or just ****?

[mancboyhudson]

Its clear we are playing for fourth ,thats our 'level' ,simple as that ,throw in a good cup run here and there .

Funny thing is that considerign Liverpool have been showing relegation form away from home we are still not that far from fourth place ,what does that say about the rest of the premiership ? its competitive or just ****?


I for one think the title race will be a close run thing although Chelsea will win it but i think the relegation battle will be absolutely superb this season with about 6 teams or so seperated by only a couple of points come the end of it.

[liverbird04]

I for one think the title race will be a close run thing although Chelsea will win it but i think the relegation battle will be absolutely superb this season with about 6 teams or so seperated by only a couple of points come the end of it.

think your right ,think a 'big club will go down this year as well .

[Tim18]

think your right ,think a 'big club will go down this year as well .

I'd put money on Newcastle.

[liverbird04]

I'd put money on Newcastle.

maybe ,I just got think a club is going to get dragged down there when they least expect it.

[mancboyhudson]

I think Newcastle will go down aswell.

They are piss poor and although were not much better we at least have something to build on with our home form.

[Shanks]

I ******* hope they go down.

[mancboyhudson]

I ******* hope they go down.

They probably will.

Thier support on Saturday was fantastic but that'll be the real test for the supposed 'most loyal fans in the world'

What the fu*k were the doing with all them scarves? Did you see them?

[Shanks]

Theyre just all *****s, i hate them, id ******* love to see them down.

[mancboyhudson]

Whats with your disliking for them Shanks.

Any particular reason or just a general feeling?

[Shanks]

Beacuse they go up and down the country mouthing off about how they are supposedly boss fans, singing **** songs like ur support is ******* ****, and outside the ground, they are the mnost arrogant ****s ever.

The truth is, we were selling out grounds IN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES before theyd ever even become noticed. They dont sell their ground out for European games, and theyve never won **** all.

[mancboyhudson]

Beacuse they go up and down the country mouthing off about how they are supposedly boss fans, singing **** songs like ur support is ******* ****, and outside the ground, they are the mnost arrogant ****s ever.

The truth is, we were selling out grounds IN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES before theyd ever even become noticed. They dont sell their ground out for European games, and theyve never won **** all.

Credit where it's due Shanks.

They do have very good support and the fact that they still sell out near enough every premiership game despite not winning a trophy for so long is pretty good in my opinion.

Of course i don't think there the best fans in the world etc but at the COMS every season they've been fantastic and along with Spurs are consistantly the best away fans at the COMS.

However some of thier fans do seem to have an arrogance about them and think they're the best supporters in the world when quite clearly they aren't.

As much as their support is fantastic in England they only took 100 to Palermo the other week which is pretty poor.

I do however think if they go down then that would be another team who have good away support gone from the premiership.

[brezipool]

I ******* hope they go down.

lol. I don't that's six points for us.

[Shanks]

Credit where it's due Shanks.

They do have very good support and the fact that they still sell out near enough every premiership game despite not winning a trophy for so long is pretty good in my opinion.

Of course i don't think there the best fans in the world etc but at the COMS every season they've been fantastic and along with Spurs are consistantly the best away fans at the COMS.

However some of thier fans do seem to have an arrogance about them and think they're the best supporters in the world when quite clearly they aren't.

As much as their support is fantastic in England they only took 100 to Palermo the other week which is pretty poor.

I do however think if they go down then that would be another team who have good away support gone from the premiership.

Its a one club city. :ninja

[mancboyhudson]

Its a one club city. :ninja

Indeed it is but to still get 50k every home game in the premiership is pretty good considering they have won fu*k all for an awful long time.

I don't think anyone can deny that their support away from home is up there with the best in the country. Well from my experience it certainly is anyway.

[Shanks]

Its no great feat at all IMO that they get 50K in a one club city, with them being in the top flight.

[Gaurav]

pardon me but aren't sunderland a derby for them?

[leeman]

only because theyre in the same region, its a different city all together

[Shanks]

Yup, its a North east derby, very much like Utd vs Liverpool, is a North West derby.

[bambergascoigne]

i think charlton have just saved them

[mancboyhudson]

Its a one club city. :ninja

Indeed it is but the population isn't that big when compared to the likes of Liverpool and Manchester etc hence why it's still a good feat to sell out week in week out

In the 2001 cencus the population of Newcastle was 259,536 so to fill 50k each week despite them not winning anything for a very long time is very good especially considering the population of Liverpool was 439,473.

[Shanks]

Indeed it is but the population isn't that big when compared to the likes of Liverpool and Manchester etc hence why it's still a good feat to sell out week in week out

In the 2001 cencus the population of Newcastle was 259,536 so to fill 50k each week despite them not winning anything for a very long time is very good especially considering the population of Liverpool was 439,473.


Not buying it mate.

Its a working class, old industrial city, out of a population of 259,536, getting 50K at home on average when u play every other week there is NOTHING. Plus then there is the draw from beyond the city boundary, the rest of Tyneside, which isnt taken into the population figures

[mancboyhudson]

Not buying it mate.

Its a working class, old industrial city, out of a population of 259,536, getting 50K at home on average when u play every other week there is NOTHING. Plus then there is the draw from beyond the city boundary, the rest of Tyneside, which isnt taken into the population figures

So then when taking into account that you and many other Liverpool fans think you're support is up there with the best what do you base that on?

Selling out all home games and away games etc?

[Shanks]

Selling out games, being a two club city.
The fact weve sold it out every year, for years.
The fact we go into Europe and ******* take over stadiums.
Guiness bookl fo records for being the loudest fans.
Number of fans taken on our travels.

Plus the fact my point on newcastle centres around their arrogance, i dont deny they have a great number of traveklling support, its the **** they come out with when they get to places that pisses me off, cos its all unqualified rubbish, further exacerbated by the fact theyve never won anything, never experienced half the things that clubs fans like Liverpool, Everton, Utd have been doing for ******* decades.

[mancboyhudson]

Selling out games, being a two club city.
The fact weve sold it out every year, for years.
The fact we go into Europe and ******* take over stadiums.
Guiness bookl fo records for being the loudest fans.
Number of fans taken on our travels.

Plus the fact my point on newcastle centres around their arrogance, i dont deny they have a great number of traveklling support, its the **** they come out with when they get to places that pisses me off, cos its all unqualified rubbish, further exacerbated by the fact theyve never won anything, never experienced half the things that clubs fans like Liverpool, Everton, Utd have been doing for ******* decades.

That thing about being the loudest fans has to be the biggest bullsh*t ever simply because do they have people measuring how loud fans are at every game in the world? I suspect not.

You are a two club City but Liverpool itself has near enough double the population of Newcastle so that point's not a valid one IMO.

I know you don't like it because they sing songs like 'you're support is fu*king sh*t and so do we and so many other clubs because thats what the banter is all about.

[Shanks]

That thing about being the loudest fans has to be the biggest bullsh*t ever simply because do they have people measuring how loud fans are at every game in the world? I suspect not.

You are a two club City but Liverpool itself has near enough double the population of Newcastle so that point's not a valid one IMO.

I know you don't like it because they sing songs like 'you're support is fu*king sh*t and so do we and so many other clubs because thats what the banter is all about.

Ok, nealry double the population, but like I said, a two club city, yet Anfield is not two times smaller than St James, not is Goodison, and we sell out every week, and have done for years......i think that makes it valid mate, and remember it wanst me who brought the popn factor into it.

Its not just that song, its the other **** they come out with when u see them about, and other songs, they are just *****s, and there is nothing worse than a gang of *****s, who have NO qulaified reason to be *****s.

[mancboyhudson]

Ok, nealry double the population, but like I said, a two club city, yet Anfield is not two times smaller than St James, not is Goodison, and we sell out every week, and have done for years......i think that makes it valid mate, and remember it wanst me who brought the popn factor into it.

Its not just that song, its the other **** they come out with when u see them about, and other songs, they are just *****s, and there is nothing worse than a gang of *****s, who have NO qulaified reason to be *****s.

So yours and Evertons grounds hold about 85k between them and you St James has 52k. You have near enough double the population yet you're two grounds don't double the capacity at St James Park so i think the one club city stuff that people continually come out with is complete nonsense.

I don't honestly know what you mean with regards to the other sh*t they come out with Shanks but i take your word for it as i don't have too much interaction with Geordies.

[liverbird04]

liverpool population is 444,000
newcastle 276,000

to be precise and also geeky

[Shanks]

So yours and Evertons grounds hold about 85k between them and you St James has 52k. You have near enough double the population yet you're two grounds don't double the capacity at St James Park so i think the one club city stuff that people continually come out with is complete nonsense.

I don't honestly know what you mean with regards to the other sh*t they come out with Shanks but i take your word for it as i don't have too much interaction with Geordies.


if u take just Liverpool FC, we hold just under 45,000, Newcastle hold 52,000.

Were from a two club city, two big clubs, and our population isnt double Newcastles, yest we only have 7,000 less capacity, and fill it every week, drawing from a popuklation that ISNT double Newcastles, and yet still has to compensate with the fact that there is the lure of the other lot fropm across the park.

[mancboyhudson]

if u take just Liverpool FC, we hold just under 45,000, Newcastle hold 52,000.

Were from a two club city, two big clubs, and our population isnt double Newcastles, yest we only have 7,000 less capacity, and fill it every week, drawing from a popuklation that ISNT double Newcastles, and yet still has to compensate with the fact that there is the lure of the other lot fropm across the park.

Shanks what i'm saying is i KNOW Newcastle is a one club City but there population is not that big in comparison to the likes of Liverpool, Manchester etc so the achievement of Newcastle selling out every home game in the premiership is just as good as Liverpool selling out every home game in the premiership when taken into context that Liverpool also have to contend with Everton.

[Shanks]

Yes, but my point is, their popn isnt half Liverpools, its more, and when u go by two, as in two clubs in Liverpool, and yet they have 7,000 fans more inside every week, it works out slightly in our favour anyways, and as I said, there is no big achievement.

Is it an achievement that we get 45,000 every week, in a two club city, two BIG clubs???

No it isnt, not at all.

[mancboyhudson]

Yes, but my point is, their popn isnt half Liverpools, its more, and when u go by two, as in two clubs in Liverpool, and yet they have 7,000 fans more inside every week, it works out slightly in our favour anyways, and as I said, there is no big achievement.

Is it an achievement that we get 45,000 every week, in a two club city, two BIG clubs???

No it isnt, not at all.

They haven't won anything for god knows how long though Shanks. Thats the point i was getting at earlier in the thread.

You only have to take our fans for instance. We were selling out for the first season and that now were lucky to get 40k inside the stadium and that's probably to do with the fact we've been sh*te for a couple of seasons and also the novely of the stadium has worn off.

Newcastle have not won a single trophy for a long long time and again this season they could be in the relegation zone. To still sell out despite not winning a trophy for many a year is quite an achievment IMO.

If you don't think it is then we'll have to agree to disagree.

[Shanks]

Yet the full house figures seem to be waning.