Serdar Tasci - Another one lost?

[PiotrTrochowski]

Stuttgarts Shooting-Star im Gewissens-Konflikt: Für wen soll er spielen?
Türken wollen Tasci
Von ARMIN GRASMUCK und ALEX GRÖMMINGER
Serdar Tasci kam von den Stuttgarter Kickers 1999 zum VfB Stuttgart. Unter Trainer Armin Veh startet Tasci jetzt richtig durch
Heute Abend werden ihn die beiden Hertha-Angreifer Gimenez und Pantelic kennenlernen: Serdar Tasci (19), Shooting-Star des VfB Stuttgart. Die Berliner werden sicher nicht viel Spaß mit ihm haben.
Denn der junge Abwehrspieler legte eine Blitzkarriere hin: In nur 15 Monaten schaffte er den Sprung von der A-Jugend der Stuttgarter bis zum Stammplatz im Profikader. „Serdar bringt alles mit, was ein moderner Verteidiger braucht“, schwärmt VfB-Trainer Armin Veh. „Er ist schnell, bissig, aber auch technisch sehr stark.“
Senkrechtstarter Tasci – seit einigen Wochen hat der Sohn türkischer Eltern (Vater Baggerfahrer, Mutter Lehrerin) aber zumindest innerlich hart mit sich zu kämpfen. In seinem Herzen tobt ein Kampf der Nationalitäten.
Bis jetzt war Tasci überzeugt, dass er für Deutschland spielen will. Er ist hier geboren, besitzt einen deutschen Pass – und hat auch schon drei U19-Länderspiele für die Bundesrepublik absolviert.
Doch vor knapp vier Wochen hat sich die Lage verändert: Da erhielt Tasci erstmals einen Anruf von Vertretern des türkischen Fußballverbands.
„Sie wollen unbedingt, dass er für das Heimatland seiner Eltern spielt“, sagt Tascis Berater Uli Ferber.
Seither locken die Türken mit emotionalen und sehr euphorischen Angeboten.
Aktuelles Angebot: Ein Stammplatz im türkischen A-Team. Und Tasci ist ins ****en geraten: Denn in seinen Kinderträumen war er immer Nationalspieler in dem Trikot mit dem Halbmond auf der Brust ...
„Er alleine muss entscheiden, für wen er spielen will“, sagt Ferber. „Wenn er so weit ist, werden wir mit beiden Verbänden reden.“ Entscheidend seien allein die persönlichen Perspektiven Tascis. Zudem solle ein öffentliches Gerangel, wie es bei Dortmunds Jung-Star Nuri Sahin der Fall war, unbedingt vermieden werden.
Im Augenblick scheint der DFB die besseren Karten zu haben. U21-Trainer Dieter Eilts hat Tasci für die zwei EM-Qualifikationsspiele gegen England (6./10. Oktober) nominiert. Und Tasci wird anreisen.
Endgültig entscheiden, für welches Land er spielen will, muss er sich laut Fifa-Statuten bis zum 24. April 2007 – an dem Tag vollendet er sein 20. Lebensjahr.
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Quelle: BILD.de/ 01.10.2006
I'll translate the most important parts:
Stuttgart's youngster Tasci in moral conflict: For whom shall he play?
"Turks want Tasci"
[...]
highflier Tasci - the son of turkish parents has to fight hard with himself for a few weeks. It's a battle between the nationalities in his heart. Until now, Tasci was convinced that he wants to play for Germnay. He was born here and has a German passport - and has already played in three U19 National team games for Germany.
But since 4 weeks ago this has changed: Tasci got a phone call from the turkish football federation.
"They absolutely want him to play for the country of his parents", says Tasci's manager Uli Ferber.
Since then, the Turks lure him with emotional and euphoric offers. Recent offer: Tasci gets a guaranteed starting place in Turkey's A-team. And Tasci falters: As a little child he dreamt that he would be a national team player for Turkey.
"He alone has to decide for whom he wants to play", says Ferber. "As soon as he is ready, we will talk with both federations." The personal perpective for Serdar Tasci is all that matters. Another battle like the Sahin-case shall be avoided.
At the moment, the German football federation (DFB) seems to be up front. U21 coach Dieter Eilts has nominated Tasci for the next two EURO-qualification matches against England in October. And Tasci will play.

[Gerry_BMG]

another one not knowing what he wants. this is getting annoying

[Timonator]

ah no no no no no!

I think he'll play for Germany. :nod

I'm so sick of this "stealing" that some countries do. :rolleyes: It's not right that they are born here, grow up here, learn football here and if the player is half turkish (half german) or so they go for him. Its like we do all the dirty work and they get them for free. There should be a rule or something. its really pissing me off. Most times parents have big influence on this too. But i think Tasci wants to play for Germany.

Wasnt there a rule someday that if a player played for the U21 he can't play for another country?

[PiotrTrochowski]

I hope that Serdar knows that they will let him play one time and that's it. They just want to "steal" him so that the DFB cannot cap him.


Please Serdar - play for Germany! You have a FUTURE in our national team :)

[Gerry_BMG]

I have the impression that talents who are considered germans (who will play for germany), have better chance of making it in the BL than foreigners or "germans" who will play for another country.

[Coldplay]

Wasnt there a rule someday that if a player played for the U21 he can't play for another country?


I think there is such a rule. And he is recently being called to the U21, but still, he hasnt played yet. He can only play for Germany after 1 cap in the U21 squad.
Same applied to Boateng, Castro

[Mertesacker]

It's his decision.
Germany is a big country, if he decides to play for Turkey, another one will take his spot.

[PiotrTrochowski]

I think there is such a rule. And he is recently being called to the U21, but still, he hasnt played yet. He can only play for Germany after 1 cap in the U21 squad.
Same applied to Boateng, Castro

that was the "old" rule. He could still change the country however.

As soon as he is called up and plays for Germany's A-team, he will be capped forever. OR he plays for Germany's U21 AND becomes/is older than 21. Then he is also capped. But he could theoretically play for Germany's U21 now (he is only 19 years old now) and then change to Turkey's A-team.

It's complicated I know. :ninja

I hope Serdar stays with Germany.

[Schwalker]

One player doesn´t make a team...If you look at turkish footy the league is filled with players from Germany, they actually dominate several clubs.

[gk_milan18]

Ozil has choosed to play for Germany and Tasci will do so, as well.

[PiotrTrochowski]

maybe a bit of hope:

This is an interview Tasci gave to a turkish reporter:

Uzun vadede hedefiniz nedir?
Taşçı: İlk planda VfB Stuttgart’ta devamlı ilk onbirde oynamak istiyorum. Uzun süreli hedefim ise Alman A Milli Takımı’nın formasını giymek.

He says there that it is his aim to get a starting place in Stuttgart and afterwards get an invitation of the German national team.

[Coldplay]

Since Tasci has no Turkish passort, i think he can only play for Germany after his first U21 cap, m i correct?

[PiotrTrochowski]

Since Tasci has no Turkish passort, i think he can only play for Germany after his first U21 cap, m i correct?

If he really has NO turkish citizenship, he will be capped after the U21 game. :drinkbeer

[PiotrTrochowski]

If he really has NO turkish citizenship, he will be capped after the U21 game. :drinkbeer


05.10.2006
Tasci hält sich die Hintertür offen

"Wie Berlins Kevin-Prince Boa­teng und Karlsruhes Sebastian Freis könnte in den Spielen gegen England auch Neuling Serdar Tasci für die deutsche U-21-National­mannschaft debütieren. Drei Spiele für die U-19-Auswahl des DFB hat der in Deutschland geborene Sohn türkischer Eltern bereits absolviert. Fernziel des Stuttgarter Verteidigers ist natürlich die A-Nationalmanns­chaft.
Allerdings hält sich Tasci durch­aus ein Hintertürchen offen. Genährt freilich von immer neuen Abwerbeversuchen aus der Türkei. "Sollte sich auf lange Sicht die Per­spektive A-Nationalmannschaft in Deutschland nicht ergeben, muss ich mal sehen, was mit der Türkei wird."

Tasci's long-term objective is of course the A-national team. However, Tasci leaves a backdoor open because of the ongoing poaching of the Turkish federation. "In case I don't see a perspective in the German A-national team in the long run, I have to see what happens with Turkey"

[PiotrTrochowski]

Zweikampf - Mit Serdar Tasci (19, VfB Stuttgart)

Deutsche oder türkische Nationalhymne?
Die türkische kann ich auswendig, die deutsche weitgehend auch. Meine Eltern sind Türken, aber ich bin hier geboren, aufgewachsen, gehe hier zur Schule und fühle mich wohl. Darum werde ich die deutsche Staatsbürgerschaft annehmen und für die DFB-Junioren spielen.

EM 2008 oder WM 2010?
Am liebsten beides. Derzeit spiele ich für die U 20. Für die A-Nationalmannschaft und die EURO wird die Zeit knapp."

Kicker-Sportmagazin 09. Oktober 2006

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German or turkish National anthem?
I know the turkish anthem by heart, the German to a large extend too. My parents are Turks, but I was born and grew up here, I go to school and I feel well. That's why I will accept the German citizenship and play for the DFB-Juniors.

EURO 2008 or WC 2010?
Both, if possible. At the moment I play for the U20. Time will be short until the A-National team and the EURO.

[Mertesacker]

:)

[Timonator]

www.vfb.de

09.10.2006
"Ich spiele für Deutschland!"

Er ist in Deutschland geboren und aufgewachsen, seine Eltern kommen aber aus der Türkei. VfB-Verteidiger Serdar Tasci ist deshalb schon sein Leben lang mit beiden Ländern eng verbunden. Zurzeit gehört er zum Aufgebot der deutschen U21-Nationalmannschaft, die um die Qualifikation für die EM-Endrunde in den Niederlanden im kommenden Jahr kämpft. Noch ist Serdar Tasci im Team von DFB-Auswahltrainer Dieter Eilts nicht zum Einsatz gekommen, doch dies kann sich beim morgigen Rückspiel gegen die Altersgenossen aus England in der Leverkusener BayArena bereits ändern.
"Meine fußballerische Heimat"

So nachhaltig und schnell er sich zuletzt im Profiteam von Cheftrainer Armin Veh etabliert hat, entschloss er sich nun auch für eine zukünftige Karriere beim Deutschen Fußballbund (DFB).

Serdar Tasci erklärte: "Natürlich ist so eine Entscheidung nicht einfach. Ich bin in Deutschland geboren und hier groß geworden, habe aber durch meine Eltern auch eine sehr enge Bindung zur Türkei. Nach dem Abwägen aller Für und Wider habe ich mich nun für den DFB entschlossen. Deutschland ist meine fußballerische Heimat, ich habe bereits in den Junioren-Auswahlteams gespielt und möchte diesen eingeschlagenen Weg deshalb weiter gehen. Trotzdem wird aber die Türkei weiterhin ein sehr wichtiger Teil meines Lebens bleiben."

wohooo he plays for Germany! :clap

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short translation:
"Of course, such a decision is not easy. I'm born in Germany, grew up here but i m still bounded with Turkey because of my parents. After weighting up all pros and cons, my decision is to play for the DFB. Germany is my football home country, i've already played for the junior teams and i wanna continue this way.

:clap :drinkbeer

[PiotrTrochowski]

Serdar, hey hey :clap :clap :clap

[PiotrTrochowski]

NACHGEHAKT kicker: Herr Tasci, Sie sagten der deut­schen U 20 ab. Seit drei Spielen klappt es nicht mit einem Einsatz. Darf der türkische Verband wieder hoffen. Kommen Sie und der DFB nicht zusammen?

Serdar Tasci: Doch, doch. Ich musste die Achillessehne schonen. Die Entscheidung für den DFB steht. Daran ändert sich nichts mehr.

Mr. Tasci, you canceled the German U20 appointment. You didn't play for three matches. Can the turkish federation hope again? Don't you come together with the German federation?

Serdar Tasci: Sure! I had to rest my harmstring. My decision for the DFB is certain. And that won't change.

[Zelda]

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Serdar Tasci: Sure! I had to rest my harmstring. My decision for the DFB is certain. And that won't change. Whoohoo Serdar is awesome.

:bowing:bowing:bowing:bowing:bowing

http://www.vfb-stuttgart.de/medien/img/profis_11696.jpg



Especially in those Chihi-times we had.

I think I know now which name will adorn the back of my future german jersey ... :drinkbeer

[PiotrTrochowski]

The funny thing is that this is probably really a new reaction for the turks. I mean, they probably thought they could come and grab him (as usually)...:D

[Coldplay]

But Chihi said exactly the same thing too. these youngsters' words cant be trust

[PiotrTrochowski]

But Chihi said exactly the same thing too. these youngsters' words cant be trust

Tasci seems like a very different character than chihi. But of course we will have to wait - until next year when he will play with the German U21 in the EURO qualification. As soon as he played a minute there, he will be lost forever for Turkey...

[Timonator]

It annoys me big time that Eilts didn't give him a few minutes against the english U21. He could have been capped already.

[PiotrTrochowski]

It annoys me big time that Eilts didn't give him a few minutes against the english U21. He could have been capped already.

absolutely! Dumb behaviour from Eilts...

but I believe Tasci. Remember guys, Chihi is probably the exception - not the rule! Serdar is a confident young man, he knows what he wants and he knows that he really has a chance to get into the German national team soon. I could imagine that Löw will nominate him for the February match against Switzerland (he said that he wanted to test a bunch of new guys there and give the regular players a rest)

[Timonator]

Yeah absolutely. :nod Serdar is different to Chihi and if he says his decision is to play for Germany i believe him.

But it's amazing how he plays. Everytime i see him he impresses me more. He acts like he's 10 years experience! Hope he isn't just another "talent", judging by his current performances he's definitely more than that!

[Zelda]

Yeah absolutely. :nod Serdar is different to Chihi and if he says his decision is to play for Germany i believe him.

But it's amazing how he plays. Everytime i see him he impresses me more. He acts like he's 10 years experience! Hope he isn't just another "talent", judging by his current performances he's definitely more than that! Exactly. IMO he reminds me A LOT on Mertesacker with his style of playing. I even think he´s a bit more talented than Per. And this has to say a lot cuz I rate Per as one of the best defenders yet despite his young age.
Serdar and Per together as Germany´s CB´s in Euro 08 this would be a dream, aww :bowing

[PiotrTrochowski]

Yeah absolutely. :nod Serdar is different to Chihi and if he says his decision is to play for Germany i believe him.

But it's amazing how he plays. Everytime i see him he impresses me more. He acts like he's 10 years experience! Hope he isn't just another "talent", judging by his current performances he's definitely more than that!

Exactly! He playes like a 28-year old defender...And the good thing about him is that he can play every position in defence - that makes him even more interesting regarding the national team...

[Distant Voices]

Let's not get carried away here.
He did not play well at RB v BMG.
He's only played in the Bundesliga since August-give him some time before we talk about him in NT terms.
Look at Helmes-played a few great games in the 2.liga and has been injured since.
What will he be like when he returns ?

Azaough looked a really good player at Mainz in the 2.liga and since his bad injuries- has not looked the same player

[scorpion2a]

absolutely! Dumb behaviour from Eilts...

but I believe Tasci. Remember guys, Chihi is probably the exception - not the rule! Serdar is a confident young man, he knows what he wants and he knows that he really has a chance to get into the German national team soon. I could imagine that Löw will nominate him for the February match against Switzerland (he said that he wanted to test a bunch of new guys there and give the regular players a rest)
I guess the need to play for the German national team should come as an urge from the player himself.. not as a trap from the coach set for the player!! If Serdar doesn't want to play for Germany then the hell with him.. good bye! If wants to, then he'll have to wait for his turn.. it's not a race U see?

[PiotrTrochowski]

I guess the need to play for the German national team should come as an urge from the player himself.. not as a trap from the coach set for the player!! If Serdar doesn't want to play for Germany then the hell with him.. good bye! If wants to, then he'll have to wait for his turn.. it's not a race U see?

Did I say it's a race? Have a look at our best defenders. There's Mertesacker - our best CB. And then there's nothing apart from Arne Friedrich, because Manuel Friedrich has lost his form and Metzelder will need time to adapt again...as a rightback we only have Fritz (I see Arne Friedrich as a CB - it suits him more). And then look at young Tasci and how he plays. He belongs for me currently (I hope that he can keep his form) to the best German defenders despite his age. I wouldn't have a problem with nominating him for the friendly in February - NOT because he would be capped, but because he could really help our team in case M. Friedrich and Metzelder are still out of form/injured or whatever.

[PiotrTrochowski]

Interview with Serdar Tasci - Stuttgarter Nachrichten, 16th December 2006
(I've translated the part where he speaks about the national team)


Regarding the national team, you could have advanced faster. Turkey lured you with a starting place in their A-team. But you have decided to play for Germany - and the more stony way with the youth teams of the DFB.

Serdar Tasci: The decision was very difficult. It is a decision for the whole life.

What was crucial?

Serdar Tasci: I'm still proud of my Turkish roots. But I was born in Esslingen and grew up in Altbach and I feel very well here.

Let's be honest: In what way did sporting reasons play a role?

Serdar Tasci: It was definitely a reason too that the chances are higher to play in a great tournament with the German national team or even get the title.

You were torn for a long time. Who did in the end convince you to play for the DFB-team?

Serdar Tasci: That was an old acquaintance: Matthias Sammer. He was with us in England for the U21-match. He spoke to me in the plane and convinced me.

And your parents can live with that?

Serdar Tasci: That wasn't a problem. They said: "Boy, this is your decision. No matter what comes out of it, we stand behind you."

Where does your family come from?

Serdar Tasci: From Artvin near the black sea. My parents came to Germany 30 years ago, but part of my relatives still live in Turkey.

Can they watch your performances in TV there?

Serdar Tasci: Not every match is broadcast - but I was lucky until now. My two goals against Dortmund and Schalke were broadcast in Turkish television.

Do you get fan-post from Turkey?

Serdar Tasci: Yes. It is still something special when a player plays in a Top-League. Many people there though my decision was correct, some others were sad.

And what do you say to those disappointed turkish fans?

Serdar Tasci: I promise them that I will represent turkey well in the jersey of the German national team. I think of myself as a link to both cultures. That's a nice mission, isn't it?"

[Distant Voices]

Esslingen and Altbach-two stops on my s-bahn line

Esslingen is a nice place

Ahwell off to the christmas market in Stuttgart:drinkbeer