Mido, misbehaves...(again) [Archive]

B.R.F.C

Feb 21 2003, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23@Feb 21 2003, 08:44 PM
http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?...put+in+reserves (http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=133755&clid=215&cpid=9&title=Mido+put+in+reserves)

What AJAX should do:

1) Find a young talented striker
2) Put Mido on the transfer list
3) Sell Him to highest bidder
4) Take the money
5) Be Nice and thank him for his goals
6) Send him in a package to his new club(don't forget to put his ferrari in the package too!)

Mido, you're the weakest link, goodbye!

I'm sure it won't go that easy, but I'm getting sick of his attitude....
I hate players who think that they are bigger than the club, if you wanna play for Ajax abide by the rules. :nono They get paid a lot of dosh to be professional and some of them do this. All i can say is Mido is a :k***

footie_master

Feb 21 2003, 09:33 PM

i love the footballer mido better than zlatan, think mido should play instead for zlatan. Zlatan cant keep the ball and loses the ball to much, mido is a dar stabile player than zlatan. Zlatan also playeda horrible game against arsenal. So i say keep him and let him play.

soccerchic

Feb 21 2003, 11:20 PM

again?? what's new :rolleyes:
why don't they just sell him???? he's not going to be much help if he's in the youth team, is he? they could get plenty of money from the sale, i'm sure there are plenty of clubs who want him. i don't understand it at all, SELL HIM!!!! (2 barca :P )

soccerchic

Feb 21 2003, 11:22 PM

is it my imagination, or are your players always being chucked into the youth team??

footie_master

Feb 22 2003, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by soccerchic@Feb 21 2003, 11:07 PM
is it my imagination, or are your players always being chucked into the youth team??
reserve teams if they did something to harm the club and manager with their talks or something like that.

soccerchic

Feb 22 2003, 12:49 AM

ronald koeman must have a short temper, or the players must be pretty naughty :nono :D

Van Der Vaart 23

Feb 22 2003, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by footie_master@Feb 21 2003, 10:18 PM
i love the footballer mido better than zlatan, think mido should play instead for zlatan. Zlatan cant keep the ball and loses the ball to much, mido is a dar stabile player than zlatan. Zlatan also playeda horrible game against arsenal. So i say keep him and let him play.
What have you been watching lately???

If there's one player that can't hold the ball and loses too much balls it's Mido! I think you still have the picture of last years Zlatan. The Zlatan of this year is very different. He doesn't lose many balls and he also started scoring more goals...

Mido, can't hold one ball. In the Champions League this year we saw that Mido has many problems with playing on that level. Zlatan didn't have that many problems, strangly he played his best matches in the Champions League. It looked like he was only motivated for the Champions League, the bigger opponents. Luckily he started playing better and scoring goals in the league also...

But really, Zlatan is a million times better than Mido. The only thing Mido can do better, except for having a big mouth, is heading..

SELL HIM!!!! (2 barca* )
:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

Are you serious?? You have Kluivert and Saviola and you want a poor player like Mido?? Good Idea! Exchange him with Patrick Kluivert! ;)

soccerchic

Feb 22 2003, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 22 2003, 11:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 22 2003, 11:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--footie_master@Feb 21 2003, 10:18 PM
i love the footballer mido better than zlatan, think mido should play instead for zlatan. Zlatan cant keep the ball and loses the ball to much, mido is a dar stabile player than zlatan. Zlatan also playeda horrible game against arsenal. So i say keep him and let him play.
What have you been watching lately???

If there's one player that can't hold the ball and loses too much balls it's Mido! I think you still have the picture of last years Zlatan. The Zlatan of this year is very different. He doesn't lose many balls and he also started scoring more goals...

Mido, can't hold one ball. In the Champions League this year we saw that Mido has many problems with playing on that level. Zlatan didn't have that many problems, strangly he played his best matches in the Champions League. It looked like he was only motivated for the Champions League, the bigger opponents. Luckily he started playing better and scoring goals in the league also...

But really, Zlatan is a million times better than Mido. The only thing Mido can do better, except for having a big mouth, is heading..

SELL HIM!!!! (2 barca* )
:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

Are you serious?? You have Kluivert and Saviola and you want a poor player like Mido?? Good Idea! Exchange him with Patrick Kluivert! ;) [/b][/quote]
nah, i think i'll pass you up on that then :laugh

Boovy

Feb 22 2003, 02:27 AM

I like Zlatan a lot!

Van Der Vaart 23

Feb 22 2003, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by soccerchic@Feb 22 2003, 02:53 AM
nah, i think i'll pass you up on that then :laugh
But why not? Wouldn't you like it to go and take a ride in Mido's ferrari ;) ?

soccerchic

Feb 22 2003, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 22 2003, 12:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 22 2003, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--soccerchic@Feb 22 2003, 02:53 AM
nah, i think i'll pass you up on that then  :laugh
But why not? Wouldn't you like it to go and take a ride in Mido's ferrari ;) ? [/b][/quote]
in exchange for patrick kluivert?? no thanks! ;) :D

Van Der Vaart 23

Feb 22 2003, 03:01 AM

Originally posted by soccerchic+Feb 22 2003, 03:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Feb 22 2003, 03:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 22 2003, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--soccerchic@Feb 22 2003, 02:53 AM
nah, i think i'll pass you up on that then* :laugh
But why not? Wouldn't you like it to go and take a ride in Mido's ferrari ;) ? [/b][/quote]
in exchange for patrick kluivert?? no thanks! ;) :D [/b][/quote]
:(

soccerchic

Feb 22 2003, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 22 2003, 12:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 22 2003, 12:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Feb 22 2003, 03:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 22 2003, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--soccerchic@Feb 22 2003, 02:53 AM
nah, i think i'll pass you up on that then* :laugh
But why not? Wouldn't you like it to go and take a ride in Mido's ferrari ;) ? [/b][/quote]
in exchange for patrick kluivert?? no thanks! ;) :D [/b][/quote]
:( [/b][/quote]
nothing a ride in mido's ferrari won't cure :D :P

Red

Feb 24 2003, 11:24 PM

he must learn to shut up :angry:

in his own country he is a god, he is the best player of egypt ever and they no it there. and he is treaded like a god in his country and by Ajax they hate arrogancie of the players. . sow they keep his mouth shut. and he it is not aloud to show up exstreamly late at the training or even dont show up at all . . .

sow he must learn that he is in Holland and not in egypt and he is playing with AFC Ajax and not at a real madrid or sumething and he must do where he good in is . . . PLAYING FOOTBALL

footie_master

Feb 25 2003, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 22 2003, 01:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 22 2003, 01:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--footie_master@Feb 21 2003, 10:18 PM
i love the footballer mido better than zlatan, think mido should play instead for zlatan. Zlatan cant keep the ball and loses the ball to much, mido is a dar stabile player than zlatan. Zlatan also playeda horrible game against arsenal. So i say keep him and let him play.
What have you been watching lately???

If there's one player that can't hold the ball and loses too much balls it's Mido! I think you still have the picture of last years Zlatan. The Zlatan of this year is very different. He doesn't lose many balls and he also started scoring more goals...

Mido, can't hold one ball. In the Champions League this year we saw that Mido has many problems with playing on that level. Zlatan didn't have that many problems, strangly he played his best matches in the Champions League. It looked like he was only motivated for the Champions League, the bigger opponents. Luckily he started playing better and scoring goals in the league also...

But really, Zlatan is a million times better than Mido. The only thing Mido can do better, except for having a big mouth, is heading..

SELL HIM!!!! (2 barca* )
:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

Are you serious?? You have Kluivert and Saviola and you want a poor player like Mido?? Good Idea! Exchange him with Patrick Kluivert! ;) [/b][/quote]
zlatan is losing the ball to much, mido is a far better reliable striker than zlatan. And zlatan isnt that good, i still prefer mido. If you saw zlatan play against arsenal very very bad, losing the ball to much but i have to say that he is performing better but i still dont like that irritating player.

Van Der Vaart 23

Feb 25 2003, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by footie_master@Feb 25 2003, 01:18 AM
zlatan is losing the ball to much, mido is a far better reliable striker than zlatan. And zlatan isnt that good, i still prefer mido. If you saw zlatan play against arsenal very very bad, losing the ball to much but i have to say that he is performing better but i still dont like that irritating player.
Yeah Arsenal....

That was Zlatan's worst match in months...

Tell me, when was the last time Mido exactly played a decent match(I'm not even asking when he played good..)??

BTW: Mister Worldstar Mido was substituted today in the reserves, the coach wasn't satisfied with the way the played..

Even in the reserves he f*cks up...... :o :o :o

Van Der Vaart 23

Feb 25 2003, 03:51 PM

Even though he f*cked up with the reserves he's back in 1st team!

Koeman took him back after the other players asked him to..

Ah well, let's hope Mido wants to prove something to Koeman now..

soccerchic

Feb 25 2003, 10:33 PM

um, how many times has this happened?? 5 at least?? if he's not such a good player, why does the coach always want him back? :wacko:

Red

Feb 25 2003, 11:10 PM

Mido is a F****** lucky man, just because Ajax dosnt have mutch strikers who can play a CL match he is now by the first team . . . but if he dosnt shut his mouth now he is history in Amsterdam. there are many players who wants to play for AFC Ajax and are better than mister "I am god''

he must shut his mouth now and do where he good in is, playing football :angry: :angry: :angry:

footie_master

Feb 25 2003, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by Red@Feb 25 2003, 10:55 PM
Mido is a F****** lucky man, just because Ajax dosnt have mutch strikers who can play a CL match he is now by the first team . . . but if he dosnt shut his mouth now he is history in Amsterdam. there are many players who wants to play for AFC Ajax and are better than mister "I am god''

he must shut his mouth now and do where he good in is, playing football :angry: :angry: :angry:
mido has still more goals in the leaque than zlatan has, and if you cant play you cant show yourself how good you are. If you gave a 2nd chance and let him play a whole match he'd probably do better than zlatan.

Van Der Vaart 23

Feb 26 2003, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by footie_master@Feb 26 2003, 12:26 AM
If you gave a 2nd chance and let him play a whole match he'd probably do better than zlatan.
We can't give him a 2nd chance anymore, since he already had 3....

footie_master

Feb 27 2003, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 26 2003, 12:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 26 2003, 12:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--footie_master@Feb 26 2003, 12:26 AM
If you gave a 2nd chance and let him play a whole match he'd probably do better than zlatan.
We can't give him a 2nd chance anymore, since he already had 3.... [/b][/quote]
didnt see the match today, had indoor soccer practice. So i have to hang around a bit and drinking 1/2 liters of warsteiner.

Red

Feb 27 2003, 11:13 AM

any way, this is his last chance I guess (his 3rd of the season), next time he is messing around he is history

The Utrecht West Ham Connection

Feb 28 2003, 11:43 AM

I feel Koeman lost a bit of his credit to my opinion, even as a Utrecht fan I feel he is the best manager in Holland, he is tactically very good, if not the best manager at the moment in Europe.

He should have said, Mido the players want you back, okay but after Arsenal. He is the boss, not the players. Well he must have had reasons then.

soccerchic

Feb 28 2003, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by The Utrecht West Ham Connection@Feb 28 2003, 09:28 PM
I feel Koeman lost a bit of his credit to my opinion, even as a Utrecht fan I feel he is the best manager in Holland, he is tactically very good, if not the best manager at the moment in Europe.

He should have said, Mido the players want you back, okay but after Arsenal. He is the boss, not the players. Well he must have had reasons then.
HIDDINK is the best coach in holland!!
even as a barca fan i say that, and i would absolutely LOVE to have him at barcelona

Van Der Vaart 23

Feb 28 2003, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by soccerchic+Feb 28 2003, 12:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Feb 28 2003, 12:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--The Utrecht West Ham Connection@Feb 28 2003, 09:28 PM
I feel Koeman lost a bit of his credit to my opinion, even as a Utrecht fan I feel he is the best manager in Holland, he is tactically very good, if not the best manager at the moment in Europe.

He should have said, Mido the players want you back, okay but after Arsenal. He is the boss, not the players. Well he must have had reasons then.
HIDDINK is the best coach in holland!!
even as a barca fan i say that, and i would absolutely LOVE to have him at barcelona [/b][/quote]
Hiddink to Barca, ah well if that happens you probably have the whole korean national team playin' in Barca in no time...

soccerchic

Feb 28 2003, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 28 2003, 09:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 28 2003, 09:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Feb 28 2003, 12:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--The Utrecht West Ham Connection@Feb 28 2003, 09:28 PM
I feel Koeman lost a bit of his credit to my opinion, even as a Utrecht fan I feel he is the best manager in Holland, he is tactically very good, if not the best manager at the moment in Europe.

He should have said, Mido the players want you back, okay but after Arsenal. He is the boss, not the players. Well he must have had reasons then.
HIDDINK is the best coach in holland!!
even as a barca fan i say that, and i would absolutely LOVE to have him at barcelona [/b][/quote]
Hiddink to Barca, ah well if that happens you probably have the whole korean national team playin' in Barca in no time... [/b][/quote]
:laugh :laugh HAHAHAHAHAHA funny boy

The Utrecht West Ham Connection

Feb 28 2003, 12:13 PM

Koeman has made some brilliant tactical moves in Europe, Ajax play good looking football in the league, PSV win but they haven't impressed me too much.

Hiddink isn't in Koeman's league, if things happened like they had to in the World Cup Hiddink would have been out against Italy.

Van Der Vaart 23

Feb 28 2003, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by The Utrecht West Ham Connection@Feb 28 2003, 12:58 PM
Koeman has made some brilliant tactical moves in Europe, Ajax play good looking football in the league, PSV win but they haven't impressed me too much.

Koeman is the king of tactics, he always has the right tactic in Europe. We have to give many credits to Tonny Bruins Slot though, he's the scout who looks how the opponents play, and he tells Koeman how they play and than they try to find the right tactics..

In the league AJAX doesn't play that well, psv is worse than AJAX, but AJAX also is pretty bad this season in the league. The only real good match was in de Kuip, against feyenoord...

Van Der Vaart 23

Feb 28 2003, 04:51 PM

Hey people, I got a surprise for U.... :rolleyes:

Mido has been put back in the reserves AGAIN

It's his own stupid mistake! He said that he didn't do anything wrong the last time and that he didn't apologise to the group and Koeman because he didn't do anything wrong..

For saying that he's been put back in the reserves, this time it looks like it's going to be for the rest of the season!!

Mido, you're the weakest link, GOOD BYE!!!!!

Red

Feb 28 2003, 06:50 PM

Mido is history in Amsterdam . . . asshole. this is a real arrogant asshole, what did he do in the history??? nothing he thought that he was mister god him self and thats not a thought that we want to see in Amsterdam

now Ajax is playing to the end of the season with one striker . . . yes 1 striker. but I think that Koeman will put some youth on his place. maybe De Ridder or Akkachar. both 2 good players are from the Ajax youthcorse. but maybe and what some fans want is that Nando Rafael is comming back to Ajax. I hope the last one, but I think it is not going to be

footie_master

Feb 28 2003, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23@Feb 28 2003, 04:36 PM
Hey people, I got a surprise for U.... :rolleyes:

Mido has been put back in the reserves AGAIN

It's his own stupid mistake! He said that he didn't do anything wrong the last time and that he didn't apologise to the group and Koeman because he didn't do anything wrong..

For saying that he's been put back in the reserves, this time it looks like it's going to be for the rest of the season!!

Mido, you're the weakest link, GOOD BYE!!!!!
ah well, that kind of attitude against the players isnt tolerable i think. Although i think he is an good player, he has now had his chance. Than i think its the team before the individual thats how i feel than.

Van Der Vaart 23

Feb 28 2003, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by footie_master@Feb 28 2003, 10:53 PM
ah well, that kind of attitude against the players isnt tolerable i think. Although i think he is an good player, he has now had his chance. Than i think its the team before the individual thats how i feel than.
The team should always be more important than the individual!

No one is bigger than the club!

soccerchic

Mar 1 2003, 01:00 AM

:laugh :laugh :o no surprises there at all
get rid of him, i say

Van Der Vaart 23

Mar 1 2003, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by soccerchic@Mar 1 2003, 01:45 AM
:laugh :laugh :o no surprises there at all
get rid of him, i say
Yep, I ask U again: are you sure U don't want to take A ride in his ferrari in exchange for Kluivert??? ;)

soccerchic

Mar 1 2003, 02:09 AM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Mar 1 2003, 11:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Mar 1 2003, 11:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--soccerchic@Mar 1 2003, 01:45 AM
:laugh  :laugh  :o  no surprises there at all
get rid of him, i say
Yep, I ask U again: are you sure U don't want to take A ride in his ferrari in exchange for Kluivert??? ;) [/b][/quote]
nah!! ;) i think we'll keep him thanks :D

Excelsior

Mar 1 2003, 08:36 AM

It's a shame that this happened. He's a good football player, but he has to learn that the team is more important than himself. Maybe this will be a similar case as van Persie at Feyenoord. First many troubles and then he learns from his faults. But then he really has to chance his attitude for the next season.

Van Der Vaart 23

Mar 1 2003, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by Excelsior@Mar 1 2003, 09:21 AM
It's a shame that this happened. He's a good football player, but he has to learn that the team is more important than himself. Maybe this will be a similar case as van Persie at Feyenoord. First many troubles and then he learns from his faults. But then he really has to chance his attitude for the next season.
I don't think there is going to be a next season at AJAX for Mido!

Excelsior

Mar 1 2003, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Mar 1 2003, 01:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Mar 1 2003, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Excelsior@Mar 1 2003, 09:21 AM
It's a shame that this happened. He's a good football player, but he has to learn that the team is more important than himself. Maybe this will be a similar case as van Persie at Feyenoord. First many troubles and then he learns from his faults. But then he really has to chance his attitude for the next season.
I don't think there is going to be a next season at AJAX for Mido! [/b][/quote]
You'll never know, half a year ago everybody said van Persie has no future at Feyenoord, now he plays every week in the first eleven. But that was because he really chanced his attitude, and I don't know if Mido is able to chance that way.

Van Der Vaart 23

Mar 1 2003, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by Excelsior+Mar 1 2003, 01:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Excelsior @ Mar 1 2003, 01:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Mar 1 2003, 01:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Excelsior@Mar 1 2003, 09:21 AM
It's a shame that this happened. He's a good football player, but he has to learn that the team is more important than himself. Maybe this will be a similar case as van Persie at Feyenoord. First many troubles and then he learns from his faults. But then he really has to chance his attitude for the next season.
I don't think there is going to be a next season at AJAX for Mido! [/b][/quote]
You'll never know, half a year ago everybody said van Persie has no future at Feyenoord, now he plays every week in the first eleven. But that was because he really chanced his attitude, and I don't know if Mido is able to chance that way. [/b][/quote]
I strongly doubt that v.Persie was so bad. I think feyenoord overreacted in that case...

Excelsior

Mar 1 2003, 02:18 PM

Of course, I don't know the details of that case, because I'm not a Feyenoord-fan. But I think you can compare the cases a bit. Van Persie was too selfish and arrogant, as Mido is now, and van Persie improved, so why can't Mido. He is still very young.

Van Der Vaart 23

Mar 1 2003, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Excelsior@Mar 1 2003, 03:03 PM
Of course, I don't know the details of that case, because I'm not a Feyenoord-fan. But I think you can compare the cases a bit. Van Persie was too selfish and arrogant, as Mido is now, and van Persie improved, so why can't Mido. He is still very young.
No, Mido will never learn, he's been told to behave better several times now, I don't think he'll ever learn.. :rolleyes:

Excelsior

Mar 2 2003, 02:01 PM

Really stupid, such a good player and he ruins his own career by this. :rolleyes:

footie_master

Mar 2 2003, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 28 2003, 09:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 28 2003, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--footie_master@Feb 28 2003, 10:53 PM
ah well, that kind of attitude against the players isnt tolerable i think. Although i think he is an good player, he has now had his chance. Than i think its the team before the individual thats how i feel than.
The team should always be more important than the individual!

No one is bigger than the club! [/b][/quote]
that depends on the quality and the achievements of some players if you have players like romario for example. You know he scores alot more than the current strikers for example so they affilate the club with the player. Same with man united if you say man united, most people will say david beckam thats my opnion though.

Van Der Vaart 23

Mar 2 2003, 11:08 PM

Mido is CRAZY!!!!!!!

I just heard on TV that he threw a scissor at Zlatan in the dressing room in December :o :o :o :o :o

He's crazy, throwing a scissor is more dangerous than kicking a footbalshoe to someone, and look what happened to Beckham. After that think about what could've happened to Zlatan...:o :o :o :o :o

Fu¢kin' egyptian camel, fu¢k off!!!!

Footie Master: I just won't agree with that, no one is bigger than the club! Raul is not bigger than Real, Kluivert is not bigger than Barca, even Johan Cruijff isn't bigger than Barcelona or AJAX!!! No one, but absolutely no one is bigger than the club, and definitely not if that club is AJAX!!!!

soccerchic

Mar 3 2003, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23@Mar 3 2003, 08:53 AM
Mido is CRAZY!!!!!!!

I just heard on TV that he threw a scissor at Zlatan in the dressing room in December :o :o :o :o :o

He's crazy, throwing a scissor is more dangerous than kicking a footbalshoe to someone, and look what happened to Beckham. After that think about what could've happened to Zlatan...:o :o :o :o :o

Fu¢kin' egyptian camel, fu¢k off!!!!

Footie Master: I just won't agree with that, no one is bigger than the club! Raul is not bigger than Real, Kluivert is not bigger than Barca, even Johan Cruijff isn't bigger than Barcelona or AJAX!!! No one, but absolutely no one is bigger than the club, and definitely not if that club is AJAX!!!!
he is crazy for throwing scissors at him (if it's true) but you don't need to start the rascist abuse :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Van Der Vaart 23

Mar 3 2003, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by soccerchic+Mar 3 2003, 01:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Mar 3 2003, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Van Der Vaart 23@Mar 3 2003, 08:53 AM
Mido is CRAZY!!!!!!!

I just heard on TV that he threw a scissor at Zlatan in the dressing room in December :o  :o :o :o :o

He's crazy, throwing a scissor is more dangerous than kicking a footbalshoe to someone, and look what happened to Beckham. After that think about what could've happened to Zlatan...:o :o :o :o :o

Fu¢kin' egyptian camel,  fu¢k off!!!!

Footie Master: I just won't agree with that, no one is bigger than the club! Raul is not bigger than Real, Kluivert is not bigger than Barca, even Johan Cruijff isn't bigger than Barcelona or AJAX!!! No one, but absolutely no one is bigger than the club, and definitely not if that club is AJAX!!!!
he is crazy for throwing scissors at him (if it's true) but you don't need to start the rascist abuse :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
It's true, trust me, even Koeman gave signs of it. I'm sorry bout that remark, but I'm really starting to hate that guy... :angry:

soccerchic

Mar 3 2003, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Mar 3 2003, 10:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Mar 3 2003, 10:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Mar 3 2003, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Van Der Vaart 23@Mar 3 2003, 08:53 AM
Mido is CRAZY!!!!!!!

I just heard on TV that he threw a scissor at Zlatan in the dressing room in December :o* :o :o :o :o

He's crazy, throwing a scissor is more dangerous than kicking a footbalshoe to someone, and look what happened to Beckham. After that think about what could've happened to Zlatan...:o :o :o :o :o

Fu¢kin' egyptian camel,* fu¢k off!!!!

Footie Master: I just won't agree with that, no one is bigger than the club! Raul is not bigger than Real, Kluivert is not bigger than Barca, even Johan Cruijff isn't bigger than Barcelona or AJAX!!! No one, but absolutely no one is bigger than the club, and definitely not if that club is AJAX!!!!
he is crazy for throwing scissors at him (if it's true) but you don't need to start the rascist abuse :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
It's true, trust me, even Koeman gave signs of it. I'm sorry bout that remark, but I'm really starting to hate that guy... :angry: [/b][/quote]
what signs? i'll only believe it if whoever happened to be there when it happened, came out and said it.
what about the other "camels" at your club? :rolleyes: :o

Van Der Vaart 23

Mar 3 2003, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by soccerchic+Mar 3 2003, 01:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Mar 3 2003, 01:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Mar 3 2003, 10:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Mar 3 2003, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Van Der Vaart 23@Mar 3 2003, 08:53 AM
Mido is CRAZY!!!!!!!

I just heard on TV that he threw a scissor at Zlatan in the dressing room in December :o* :o :o :o :o

He's crazy, throwing a scissor is more dangerous than kicking a footbalshoe to someone, and look what happened to Beckham. After that think about what could've happened to Zlatan...:o :o :o :o :o

Fu¢kin' egyptian camel,* fu¢k off!!!!

Footie Master: I just won't agree with that, no one is bigger than the club! Raul is not bigger than Real, Kluivert is not bigger than Barca, even Johan Cruijff isn't bigger than Barcelona or AJAX!!! No one, but absolutely no one is bigger than the club, and definitely not if that club is AJAX!!!!
he is crazy for throwing scissors at him (if it's true) but you don't need to start the rascist abuse :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
It's true, trust me, even Koeman gave signs of it. I'm sorry bout that remark, but I'm really starting to hate that guy... :angry: [/b][/quote]
what signs? i'll only believe it if whoever happened to be there when it happened, came out and said it.
what about the other "camels" at your club? :rolleyes: :o [/b][/quote]
A reported said to Koeman that there was being said that Mido had thrown a scissor at Zlatan. Koeman said to the reporter: I see that you are well informed...

Well, is that admitting or admitting that it really happened???

Me thinks it's definitely admitting! :USA_Blue's_Smiley

And ehh which other camels?? :rolleyes:

footie_master

Mar 3 2003, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23@Mar 2 2003, 10:53 PM
Footie Master: I just won't agree with that, no one is bigger than the club! Raul is not bigger than Real, Kluivert is not bigger than Barca, even Johan Cruijff isn't bigger than Barcelona or AJAX!!! No one, but absolutely no one is bigger than the club, and definitely not if that club is AJAX!!!!
Those key players are makin it happen that the club is getting promoted and seen by the public mass, star players always insuring some good promotion for the club and keeping the club in they eye of the people. You really think that players will stay at a club forever if a good player get a good offer than they are off there isnt any real club players, there are a few though but not that much.

Van Der Vaart 23

Mar 3 2003, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by footie_master+Mar 3 2003, 09:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (footie_master @ Mar 3 2003, 09:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Van Der Vaart 23@Mar 2 2003, 10:53 PM
Footie Master: I just won't agree with that, no one is bigger than the club! Raul is not bigger than Real, Kluivert is not bigger than Barca, even Johan Cruijff isn't bigger than Barcelona or AJAX!!! No one, but absolutely no one is bigger than the club, and definitely not if that club is AJAX!!!!
Those key players are makin it happen that the club is getting promoted and seen by the public mass, star players always insuring some good promotion for the club and keeping the club in they eye of the people. You really think that players will stay at a club forever if a good player get a good offer than they are off there isnt any real club players, there are a few though but not that much. [/b][/quote]
Maybe the club is makin' the players big too?? I mean who was Mido at AA Ghent huh??? He was a nice player, but not wanted like he is now..

Look, maybe there are players that are bigger than the club at a low level, I mean if Marco van Basten would've played for Emmen and he promoted Emmen on his own and made Emmen play in Europe, you could say he would be bigger than the club, but with a club like AJAX, there's no way a player is bigger than that club!!

soccerchic

Mar 4 2003, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Mar 3 2003, 11:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Mar 3 2003, 11:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Mar 3 2003, 01:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Mar 3 2003, 10:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Mar 3 2003, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Van Der Vaart 23@Mar 3 2003, 08:53 AM
Mido is CRAZY!!!!!!!

I just heard on TV that he threw a scissor at Zlatan in the dressing room in December :o* :o :o :o :o

He's crazy, throwing a scissor is more dangerous than kicking a footbalshoe to someone, and look what happened to Beckham. After that think about what could've happened to Zlatan...:o :o :o :o :o

Fu¢kin' egyptian camel,* fu¢k off!!!!

Footie Master: I just won't agree with that, no one is bigger than the club! Raul is not bigger than Real, Kluivert is not bigger than Barca, even Johan Cruijff isn't bigger than Barcelona or AJAX!!! No one, but absolutely no one is bigger than the club, and definitely not if that club is AJAX!!!!
he is crazy for throwing scissors at him (if it's true) but you don't need to start the rascist abuse :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
It's true, trust me, even Koeman gave signs of it. I'm sorry bout that remark, but I'm really starting to hate that guy... :angry: [/b][/quote]
what signs? i'll only believe it if whoever happened to be there when it happened, came out and said it.
what about the other "camels" at your club? :rolleyes: :o [/b][/quote]
A reported said to Koeman that there was being said that Mido had thrown a scissor at Zlatan. Koeman said to the reporter: I see that you are well informed...

Well, is that admitting or admitting that it really happened???

Me thinks it's definitely admitting! :USA_Blue's_Smiley

And ehh which other camels?? :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
who knows? he could be trying to trick them :o

which other camels?? ummm, lemme see, how about trabelsi, boukhari?????? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Van Der Vaart 23

Mar 4 2003, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by soccerchic+Mar 4 2003, 08:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Mar 4 2003, 08:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Mar 3 2003, 11:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Mar 3 2003, 01:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Mar 3 2003, 10:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (soccerchic @ Mar 3 2003, 01:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Van Der Vaart 23@Mar 3 2003, 08:53 AM
Mido is CRAZY!!!!!!!

I just heard on TV that he threw a scissor at Zlatan in the dressing room in December :o* :o :o :o :o

He's crazy, throwing a scissor is more dangerous than kicking a footbalshoe to someone, and look what happened to Beckham. After that think about what could've happened to Zlatan...:o :o :o :o :o

Fu¢kin' egyptian camel,* fu¢k off!!!!

Footie Master: I just won't agree with that, no one is bigger than the club! Raul is not bigger than Real, Kluivert is not bigger than Barca, even Johan Cruijff isn't bigger than Barcelona or AJAX!!! No one, but absolutely no one is bigger than the club, and definitely not if that club is AJAX!!!!
he is crazy for throwing scissors at him (if it's true) but you don't need to start the rascist abuse :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
It's true, trust me, even Koeman gave signs of it. I'm sorry bout that remark, but I'm really starting to hate that guy... :angry: [/b][/quote]
what signs? i'll only believe it if whoever happened to be there when it happened, came out and said it.
what about the other "camels" at your club? :rolleyes: :o [/b][/quote]
A reported said to Koeman that there was being said that Mido had thrown a scissor at Zlatan. Koeman said to the reporter: I see that you are well informed...

Well, is that admitting or admitting that it really happened???

Me thinks it's definitely admitting! :USA_Blue's_Smiley

And ehh which other camels?? :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
who knows? he could be trying to trick them :o

which other camels?? ummm, lemme see, how about trabelsi, boukhari?????? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
Do you really believe that??

Euhm, as far as I know Trabelsi and Boukhari are human... :USA_Blue's_Smiley :USA_Blue's_Smiley :USA_Blue's_Smiley :D

soccerchic

Mar 4 2003, 10:22 PM

no, i don't really believe it :D

footie_master

Mar 4 2003, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Mar 3 2003, 08:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Mar 3 2003, 08:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (footie_master @ Mar 3 2003, 09:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Van Der Vaart 23@Mar 2 2003, 10:53 PM
Footie Master: I just won't agree with that, no one is bigger than the club! Raul is not bigger than Real, Kluivert is not bigger than Barca, even Johan Cruijff isn't bigger than Barcelona or AJAX!!! No one, but absolutely no one is bigger than the club, and definitely not if that club is AJAX!!!!
Those key players are makin it happen that the club is getting promoted and seen by the public mass, star players always insuring some good promotion for the club and keeping the club in they eye of the people. You really think that players will stay at a club forever if a good player get a good offer than they are off there isnt any real club players, there are a few though but not that much. [/b][/quote]
Maybe the club is makin' the players big too?? I mean who was Mido at AA Ghent huh??? He was a nice player, but not wanted like he is now..

Look, maybe there are players that are bigger than the club at a low level, I mean if Marco van Basten would've played for Emmen and he promoted Emmen on his own and made Emmen play in Europe, you could say he would be bigger than the club, but with a club like AJAX, there's no way a player is bigger than that club!! [/b][/quote]
what about van basten shoot at a higher club scoring goals and win the champions leaque i mean he is the one thats make it happen than he makes the club big.

and about mido, i havent stated that mido is bigger than the club.