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Killah
Mar 4 2006, 10:11 PM
Match Thread, Deportivo gave us a few scares today on set pieces, but mind you we missed Motta and Oleguer the regulars at the back too, atleast it's given a wake up call and i don't remember Depor looking too dangerous on the counter so all in all.......Let's hope of a repeat of the 5-1 :dk althought a 2-1 would do aswell :ninja

blaugranablood
Mar 4 2006, 10:21 PM
or a 0-1!though i always like barca to score and win!!i think we will beat chelsea,it doesn't have to be fancy keep it tight at the back that is the key if chelsea don't score thats it. 0 0 with a couple of mins to go would do it.However it is in our nature to have a go at them,and in this pitch i think we can do real damage!

Killah
Mar 4 2006, 10:25 PM
PS are Chelsea players planks ? i mean seriously, before the first leg we had John Terry saying we'll kick their players if we have to, now we've got Ricardo Carvalho openly saying we have an open ride to perform theatrics..surely you don't wanna make a big deal out of it if you really are gonna do such a thing :ninja

blaugranablood
Mar 4 2006, 10:57 PM
yeah they are!

Força Barça
Mar 4 2006, 11:27 PM
This game could go anywhere...its up to our teams Attitude & Psychi...Remember the 3-0 down after just 30 min or so? Ok it was the bridge but just cause its nou camp i dont mean it cant happen.
Im really nervous about this game...1-0 to chelsea & it will be really nervous....Puuuh
Chelsea will be on fire & have nothing to loose so they will be dangerous...during my years as barca fan I have seen barca stumble too many times on the line...lets say they dont have the routine as other big teams in the CL...but I hope we get them a few times on the counter & put them in place.
I would just love it if there is controversy involved & we win & Moronho gets furious again....Imagine how he will suffer untill next years CL campain....

Killah
Mar 4 2006, 11:29 PM
We might see an attacking Chelsea to start with, since it doesnt change the fact that they'll need 2 goals even if we did score, i wouldn't mind an open game where chelsea are pressuring us high up the pitch and trying to attack since it's impossible for them to beat us that way.

zib
Mar 4 2006, 11:39 PM
Barca need to start the match like they did in the away leg. Be careful, calm and not lose posession of the ball. They don't need to go all out attack trying to score goals. They should have a defensive mindset and try and score if an opportunity arises. I know Barca love to attack and attack but they didn't start the match like that in the first leg. They should just play for a draw.

Madrid14
Mar 5 2006, 02:27 AM
Teams that do well against Barca or Madrid are teams that attack and don't hold back eg. Zaragoza

Killah
Mar 5 2006, 02:34 AM
not really, Zaragoza didn't "attack" at all, they let Barcelonas backline push up and used the pace of Ewerthon and D.Milito to get in behind them

Raul7
Mar 5 2006, 02:40 AM
I say soak up the Chelsea attacks in the beginning; then attack them all out after the HT.

Fins Prompte
Mar 5 2006, 02:58 AM
soak up the field too?

Wonder if it will be raining like it did today.

Anyways, for those in America, the game will not be shown live because of....... world cup of baseball. ESPN 2 will have it on tape delay like at freaking midnight.

Raul7
Mar 5 2006, 03:02 AM
Anyways, for those in America, the game will not be shown live because of....... world cup of baseball. ESPN 2 will have it on tape delay like at freaking midnight.

That's bull****! Can't Americans understnad that football DOES come before anything else. Or does the match have to include a pathetic MLS team so they can air it live.

kw8e
Mar 5 2006, 03:33 AM
Chelsea will have to play an unconventional style for them (attack) while Barca need to play Chelsea's style of counter attack. Will be interesting to see each team play the other teams's style. We have to score period. For every goal we score they have to score two. I dont think barca will be playing for the draw.

Killah
Mar 5 2006, 03:48 AM
I don't think just because Chelsea might try to attack we'll have to rely on counter attacks, i still say that even though Chelsea will be pressuring very high like mad dogs trying to get the ball we'll still keep most of the posession, comparing the on the ball abilities of Chelsea players to ours is a J O K E with a capital J O K E (Courtesy of Alma :laugh)

Barcelona Possession + Spaces in Chelseas Defence + R.E.M = Goals, Goals and More Goals, for us of course.

Killah
Mar 5 2006, 04:07 AM
LUCERNE, Switzerland, March 4 (Reuters) - FIFA president Sepp Blatter called for fair play from Chelsea and Barcelona when they meet in what is expected to be a highly-charged Champions League match at the Nou Camp on Tuesday.

Blatter was speaking on Saturday after a meeting of the law-making International Football Association Board which issued instructions to referees to clamp down on cheating and reckless play at the World Cup finals starting in June.

Blatter was asked his view of allegations of cheating made by Chelsea coach Jose Mourinho who accused Barcelona winger Lionel Messi of "play-acting" to get defender Asier Del Horno sent off in the first leg of their knockout round match at Stamford Bridge two weeks ago.

"I hope the match in Barcelona goes ahead in a manner of fair-play," said Blatter, "and I hope that is so for all matches."

When the clubs met in the competition in Barcelona last year Mourinho made allegations about referee Anders Frisk and Barcelona coach Franjk Rijkaard which led to Mourinho being fined and suspended by UEFA and to Frisk's premature retirement.

"I am sure there will be fair play this year," added Blatter.

Barcelona won the first leg 2-1 at Chelsea and are favourites to advance to the quarter-finals with the home leg to come.
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Mou Cvnts piece in his bullsh1t column in some portuguese newspaper where all the nation can suck him off to their hearts content

In the UEFA competitions, a straight red card for violent play is punished with a three-match suspension. Del Horno was sent off against Barcelona and a few days later the suspension given was one match. Conclusion: he shouldn’t have been sent off. Consequence: Chelsea played for sixty minutes with ten players. Solution: none. And what’s going to happen on Tuesday? Let us play! Without penalties, without sendings off! Let us play!

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Chelsea striker Hernan Crespo has attempted to diffuse the tension ahead of his side´s Champions League return clash with Barcelona.

The main talking point of the first leg of the last-16 tie, which Barcelona won 2-1, was the sending off of Asier del Horno after an incident involving Lionel Messi. Crespo´s 19-year-old Argentina team-mate Messi was accused of playacting and with no love lost between the clubs, the second leg at the Nou Camp next week could be an explosive affair.

But Crespo, who met up with Messi for Argentina´s international against Croatia in Switzerland in midweek, told The Sun: "We weren´t annoyed with him when Del Horno was sent off. It is the stuff of football and often happens. What is undeniable is I saw Lionel´s legs in Switzerland and the bruises were still there."

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JOE COLE last night admitted that a Chelsea victory in Barcelona next week would be arguably the greatest night in the history of the club.

As Jose Mourinho prepared for his 100th game in charge of the Blues at West Brom this lunchtime, the minds of the Chelsea players are already looking at Tuesday's date with Champions League destiny in the Nou Camp.

And with the current squad still mourning the shock death of Stamford Bridge legend Peter Osgood, Cole (above) agreed there could be no better tribute than recording a glorious chapter in the club's history in his honour.

Cole said: "It would be perhaps our greatest-ever night if we can win there and we know we've got the squad to do it too.

"There's no fear in this squad at all. We know what we've got to do, which is score at least two goals, but we believe that we can do it.

"It would be great for Ossie and what he meant to the club if we could do it so soon after his death."

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ay what you like about Chelsea - their PR and diplomatic skills are improving. Which could be bad news for the rest of us, if last week's events are any guide. For we were forced to begin looking forward to Barcelona on Tuesday through wool the club had neatly pulled over our eyes.

The process began last Tuesday when we awoke to read - among other things, I trust - reports that Uefa had reduced Asier Del Horno's suspension for dismissal at Stamford Bridge from three matches to one. The reason was that his challenge on Lionel Messi had been classified as "serious foul play'' rather than "violent conduct'', which gave the impression Uefa might have seen some merit in Jose Mourinho's arguments that the red card was unjustified and the young Argentine had been play-acting. Utter twaddle, of course.

Uefa could hardly have reduced the suspension because at that stage it had not been announced; only Chelsea could have known. Also, Del Horno's offence, though ugly, was never likely to attract more than a one-match ban because, according to Fifa advice published with the laws, "a tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play''. Given that Del Horno's club-mate Michael Essien was suspended for two matches after a more dangerous lunge at Liverpool's Dietmar Hamann, the punishment fitted the crime.

It was confirmed by Uefa later in the day. For the record, they felt "there were no circumstances which justify increasing the minimum sanction of a one-match suspension'' because Del Horno had "used excessive force without intention to hit'' (in other words, body-checked recklessly rather than maliciously). This was hardly reported; after all, it would have entailed a revision of misleading information, which no one enjoys doing. So an early victory to Chelsea, then, in the mind games that - inevitably, given the nature of their manager - will continue to kick-off time at Camp Nou and possibly beyond.

Tedious though aspects of the Mourinho regime are - especially slap-bang in the middle of the most fascinating confluence of football philosophies the Champions League could provide - the bulk of blame lies with Uefa, who seem to have succumbed to a diplomatic offensive by Chelsea. Why, otherwise, would Uefa have ignored Mourinho's outburst after the first leg, when he branded Messi a cheat and - even more gravely in view of the episode last season when he falsely accused the referee Anders Frisk of allowing Barcelona's manager, Frank Rijkaard, into his dressing room - implied that match officials in matches involving Barcelona could not be trusted to observe impartiality?

Last season, after Frisk had received death threats and resigned, Mourinho was banished from the sidelines for two matches and Lars Christer Olsson, the Uefa chief executive, deplored managers who "destabilise the opposition'', adding: ''We will sanction anyone...who makes inflammatory statements that could jeopardise the security of match officials and bring the game into disrepute.'' Fine words. So why the silence? Could it be that Chelsea have mended relations with the European body in advance of the conclusions of an international inquiry into club ownership? On the face of it, this would be both sensible business practice and conducive to the smoother running of the game. But I preferred it when Uefa and the club bankrolled by Roman Abramovich's billions were at loggerheads. Last season, you may recall, Mourinho had to sit out the quarter-final against a Bayern Munich featuring Michael Ballack. Now Ballack is tipped for Chelsea. Mourinho certainly needs a good buy. Essien notwithstanding, his record in the transfer market does not yet bear comparison with the peak years of Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United or Arsene Wenger at Arsenal.

He is lucky to have lost one of his signings for Tuesday. As I said last week, Del Horno should never have been playing against Messi, who may have more difficulty in embarrassing the right-footed William Gallas. Although Rijkaard might consider countering this by switching Messi and Ronaldinho, there is such confidence in the kid that he will probably leave well alone. His main dilemma in deciding how to treat a 2-1 cushion is whether to restore the attacking full-backs Luciano Belletti and Silvinho. But nothing is more important than ensuring no hint of complacency or narcissism permeates the ranks.

As Chelsea reiterated with 10 men at the Bridge, they are brilliant on the counter-attack and, if Barcelona are not careful, Arjen Robben could steal the show.

On the question of Messi's supposed simulation, by the way, I had the pleasure of appearing on Mark Pougatch's programme on Radio Five Live recently with Tony Cascarino and Gavin Peacock, whom I attempted to persuade - in tones I feared might strike the listener as near-hysterical - that most forms of diving constituted an acceptable part of the game, an aid to justice, rather than something newspapers should address with infantile campaigns. Predictably, a rush of e-mails and texts ensued - about half supportive! On the strength of which I am tempted to take my courage in both hands and apply, however belatedly, for membership of the public.

zib
Mar 5 2006, 04:55 AM
Is the ref from the first leg dead yet?

BanRay
Mar 5 2006, 06:11 AM
Barca need to start the match like they did in the away leg. Be careful, calm and not lose posession of the ball. They don't need to go all out attack trying to score goals. They should have a defensive mindset and try and score if an opportunity arises. I know Barca love to attack and attack but they didn't start the match like that in the first leg. They should just play for a draw.


I disagree, remember Chelsea have to score two, we should play our normal football. Changing the style of play to something that is abnormal to Barca - defending, won't do any good with the advantage we have.

clarity
Mar 5 2006, 07:40 AM
ITS THE CAMP NOU SO THEY BETTER BE READY TO PLAY US IN OUR OWN GAME


in that rugby field the players had to be carefull cause iof they dont they probably end up breaking a leg or two...but in barca i suggest playing our own game and not giving their midfield a chance to settle...


"THE BARCELONA ATTACKING TSUNAMI " in other words

mhrelayyan
Mar 5 2006, 08:04 AM
Barca need to start the match like they did in the away leg. Be careful, calm and not lose posession of the ball. They don't need to go all out attack trying to score goals. They should have a defensive mindset and try and score if an opportunity arises. I know Barca love to attack and attack but they didn't start the match like that in the first leg. They should just play for a draw.

agreed but i dont think barca will play like this , they will attack from the first minute trying to score

kw8e
Mar 5 2006, 09:48 AM
from: football.guardian.co.uk

Chelsea might go for Plan B - and win

'Lionel Messi was fantastic. He was like water. He flows everywhere.'

Claudio Ranieri
Sunday March 5, 2006
The Observer (http://www.observer.co.uk/)


The next 90 minutes at the Camp Nou will define whether Chelsea can win the Champions League. Jose Mourinho has an interesting decision to make: does he start cautiously, or does he go for the jugular?
The first 20 minutes are crucial, and Chelsea might wait to see if Barcelona play the same way they did in winning the first leg - keep possession, move the ball quickly, penetrate down wide areas. Chelsea can counterattack very quickly. Remember, when these teams played in Spain last season, Barcelona started very well but Chelsea broke to score first. This is Plan A. But there will be a Plan B, too. Chelsea also like to press very high up the pitch to try to get the ball behind their opponents. Mourinho might prefer to be more forceful.

I was at the first leg, a tremendous match. Lionel Messi was fantastic. He is like water. He flows everywhere. I have never seen a player like him. He can run so fast with the ball at his feet, and easily change direction. Five months ago Messi only passed the ball to Ronaldinho. Now he scores, and often. He showed how much more confident he is now when he made one and scored another so skilfully for Argentina against Croatia during the week. He is growing all the time.


How do you stop him? Getting William Gallas back would certainly help Chelsea. At this stage the difference is decided by the best players. By champions.

Chelsea and Barcelona have very different philosophies. Frank Rijkaard's side have improved defensively and don't have many weaknesses. Against Chelsea they played two defensive midfielders, Thiago Motta and Edmilson, with Deco as their only attacking midfielder, prompting their front three. They can play the same way at home.

We saw a very, very tactical match in the first leg. Of course everything changed with the sending off of Asier Del Horno - 10 v 11 is not the same as 11 v 11 - but with another game ahead all is not lost for Chelsea. They have a chance in the Camp Nou.

The statistics are irrelevant. It doesn't matter that only one team in the history of the Champions League has come back from losing the first leg 2-1 at home to go through. It's not important that Chelsea don't have a great record in away matches in the Champions League. This is different, a one-off.
When I was at Chelsea, my team won everywhere in the Champions League until the semi-final. Then we lost in Monte Carlo. This could be the first time for a while that Chelsea win a big European match away.

winkyharper
Mar 5 2006, 10:28 AM
Ranieri managed to say absolutely nothing of importance in that column.

Força Barça
Mar 5 2006, 10:29 AM
Since we have a large pitch we have to be aware of Robben, Cole, Drogba cause of their speed & the lack of speed from us in the sides...Belletti & Oleguer are both slower than all those...Sylvinho is a bit faster but still....other than that we need to mark Lampard tight so he cant find them with his long balls.
This game is all about the first 20-30 minutes....if we hold tight we can ruin their spirits but a goal from us would do us well but remember that if they score 2 its all back to zero..they just cant score!! But Im afraid that their pace & our big pitch will be to our disatvantage when we want to hold a team like chelsea down when they got nothing to loose!! Motta & Edmilson its up to you boys to kill the midfield!!

terminator
Mar 5 2006, 10:51 AM
Since we have a large pitch we have to be aware of Robben, Cole, Drogba cause of their speed & the lack of speed from us in the sides...Belletti & Oleguer are both slower than all those...Sylvinho is a bit faster but still....other than that we need to mark Lampard tight so he cant find them with his long balls.
This game is all about the first 20-30 minutes....if we hold tight we can ruin their spirits but a goal from us would do us well but remember that if they score 2 its all back to zero..they just cant score!! But Im afraid that their pace & our big pitch will be to our disatvantage when we want to hold a team like chelsea down when they got nothing to loose!! Motta & Edmilson its up to you boys to kill the midfield!!For once i have to agree, the game could either way, as you said if we pull at least 2 back, then it's all even again. :nod

Ronnie21
Mar 5 2006, 01:57 PM
I dont agree that we should play defensively. If we play defensively then they will have the ball more and we need to keep posession and try to score to put the game out of reach

Sparky
Mar 5 2006, 02:08 PM
Can't see Chelsea stopping Barca scoring.

kw8e
Mar 5 2006, 02:52 PM
Can't see Chelsea stopping Barca scoring.

True, but the question is: how many? I think 2 goals will do it.

addycruise_1
Mar 5 2006, 02:58 PM
cmon barce fans its ur home and if chelski is to ever win at camp nou then they will have to do with barce being 3 men down and u'll kno thats never gonna happen i think its advantage barce and that too huge becoz i dont think barce is not gonna score , barce have to play their natural game to beat chelski and thats it barce's thru meet u'll in next round.

terminator
Mar 5 2006, 03:09 PM
True, but the question is: how many? I think 2 goals will do it.It may, but what happens if we score 3 or 4 ? and i wouldn't write us off as last season you's beat us in the 1st leg, and in the 2nd leg we can back and bit you's on the arse even if we were at home. Mourinho will have something planned for the 2nd leg, trust me on that one. He's got the recipe for winning and turning things around. What he has achieved in the last few years tells you everything. :nod

Barça009
Mar 5 2006, 03:53 PM
Barcelona will probably go into this leg as they would have if Barcelona had lost 2-1 in the first leg. They won't defend it as tho it is a massive lead, we will play possetion play moving forward most of the game, I predict Barcelona to create atleast 5 good chances to score and I doubt we will miss all our chances.

I will predict another 2-1 victory for Barcelona with Messi scoring both.

kw8e
Mar 5 2006, 05:20 PM
It may, but what happens if we score 3 or 4 ? and i wouldn't write us off as last season you's beat us in the 1st leg, and in the 2nd leg we can back and bit you's on the arse even if we were at home. Mourinho will have something planned for the 2nd leg, trust me on that one. He's got the recipe for winning and turning things around. What he has achieved in the last few years tells you everything. :nod

It's the other way around this year, as we have the home advantage this time. As for Mourinho having something planned, so does Rijkaard. I wont go into what Mourinho has achieved cause that's a can of worms I would rather keep shut.

blaugranablood
Mar 5 2006, 05:48 PM
It may, but what happens if we score 3 or 4 ? and i wouldn't write us off as last season you's beat us in the 1st leg, and in the 2nd leg we can back and bit you's on the arse even if we were at home. Mourinho will have something planned for the 2nd leg, trust me on that one. He's got the recipe for winning and turning things around. What he has achieved in the last few years tells you everything. :nodI know its not over and haven't made anything of the first leg yet,not until its truely over,but you also laughed at the thought of us winning in stamford bridge ,u predicted a comfortable chelski win!So i admire ur optimism even after being so terribly wrong in ur predictions!I hope ur predictions stink once again!we all live in hope,especially u by the looks of it.Mourinho's plan to defend and try and get a goal at the end of either half.thats it,mate,if he acheives it good for him,but its no special plan.I think Barca will win 3 1.But as I say Its still open,why couldn't chelski win 2 3 !

blaugranablood
Mar 5 2006, 05:50 PM
It may, but what happens if we score 3 or 4 ? and i wouldn't write us off as last season you's beat us in the 1st leg, and in the 2nd leg we can back and bit you's on the arse even if we were at home. Mourinho will have something planned for the 2nd leg, trust me on that one. He's got the recipe for winning and turning things around. What he has achieved in the last few years tells you everything. :nodBeat us in our arses!You were out with 10mins to go!Eto'o missed a sitter that would have surely killed you and desverdely so!you had a lucky strike and we went out.hardly beating our arses!

kw8e
Mar 5 2006, 06:55 PM
Well it's official, Fat Frank is back and looking for a deflection :laugh:

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=368661&CPID=5&clid=&lid=2&title=Lamps+back+for+Barca+showdown

terminator
Mar 5 2006, 07:33 PM
Well it's official, Fat Frank is back and looking for a deflection :laugh:

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=368661&CPID=5&clid=&lid=2&title=Lamps+back+for+Barca+showdownJust when i thought today couldn't get any better. :laugh

kw8e
Mar 6 2006, 04:10 AM
Just when i thought today couldn't get any better. :laugh

Yup, one less excuse for Chelsea to moan about when we take them to school.:laugh

Raul7
Mar 6 2006, 06:13 AM
I knew he would be back; his "injury" was just another dirty trick to try and get Barca over-confident.

kw8e
Mar 6 2006, 06:23 AM
I knew he would be back; his "injury" was just another dirty trick to try and get Barca over-confident.

Everyone knew he would be back :handbags

Gaurav
Mar 6 2006, 08:21 AM
kill them guys.plz kill them...

kw8e
Mar 6 2006, 11:11 AM
From Skysports:

Messi ready to perform

By Simon Fudge - Created on 6 Mar 2006



I want to produce the biggest match of my life against Chelsea to silence the mouth of Mourinho and his players," Messi told the Daily Star.

"They claim I am an actor. They are wrong. I am a professional footballer and I have received many kicks this season.


"The actors are for the cinema and not for sport.


"I do not want contact with Mourinho because he was deceptive with me through his behaviour. He should look at the bruises on my legs.


"Del Horno has also had a lot to say about me, but so he should because he got nowhere near me on the pitch until he fouled me."

Barça009
Mar 6 2006, 11:20 AM
Doesn't sound like something Messi would say...Most of is has probably been twisted.

kw8e
Mar 6 2006, 11:30 AM
Doesn't sound like something Messi would say...Most of is has probably been twisted.

I'm hoping he did and is fired-up for some barbecued Gallas.

Jere Markus
Mar 6 2006, 12:52 PM
Chelsea never cheats though.. (like Robben and Dudek incident). Here´s another:

The incident where Drogba appeared to overreact after he was barely touched by Greening led to ref Halsey appealing to the players' union, the Professional Footballers' Association, to act on perceived cheating.

"I saw it and knew that he wasn't touched, but no way could I justify a yellow card," said Halsey. "It's not for me to judge, it's for other people - for the PFA to look at that and get on to their members."

carlito_m
Mar 6 2006, 02:01 PM
I dont think we will play for a draw it is not our style and its a dangerous thing to do anyway. I can see Chelski scoring as we always give teams a chance, its just that you have to expect we will score as well.

FCBarca
Mar 6 2006, 02:17 PM
I can't believe they are going to pre-empt the broadcast of this 2nd leg clash on ESPN2 until the evening on Tuesday, 9:30PM PST...Nearly 10 hrs after the match is actually played...Unbelievable...And what is taking it's place on this ridiculous network?...Baseball...Matches that few people will even watch.

Continues to amaze me how little place matches of such magnitude have on the sports scene in the USA...There is NO live broadcast of this match?

Anyone know if it's being televised anywhere live in the US?...My understanding is that ESPN bought rights for US Broadcasts.

Anyone? :mad:

blaugranablood
Mar 6 2006, 02:49 PM
I can't believe they are going to pre-empt the broadcast of this 2nd leg clash on ESPN2 until the evening on Tuesday, 9:30PM PST...Nearly 10 hrs after the match is actually played...Unbelievable...And what is taking it's place on this ridiculous network?...Baseball...Matches that few people will even watch.

Continues to amaze me how little place matches of such magnitude have on the sports scene in the USA...There is NO live broadcast of this match?

Anyone know if it's being televised anywhere live in the US?...My understanding is that ESPN bought rights for US Broadcasts.

Anyone? :mad:And then I get berrated at for suggesting that football in the us is more than dead!It has no place there,just like baseball and american football has no place outside the states,bar cuba,venezuela and japan for baseball.
Its impossible for americans to catch the fottball fever ,ice hockey,basketball,baseball and american football are too big!You want to watch decent football move away from the states!

jerry
Mar 6 2006, 03:04 PM
at least 3 goals from barca...

Killah
Mar 6 2006, 03:11 PM
some channel called setanta sports available on direct tv(i have no idea what either are) are showing the game in the US, you can catch the game in a US bar for deffo tho, btw any idea if we'll be able to watch this game in scotland, since it seems itv are showing the 'gers ?

FCBarca
Mar 6 2006, 04:23 PM
Carvalho's comments are odd leading up to the match...Is it going to be a dive fest?

I am only hoping for no overconfidence on the part of Barca, otherwise we are through.

FCBarca
Mar 6 2006, 04:28 PM
Caught this from SkySports...Could it be a prelude to a boring match?


Meanwhile, Barca captain Carles Puyol has apologised to the Camp Nou fans in advance by stating that beating Chelsea on Tuesday must come before playing attractive football.
The Spain international admitted that it would be pointless for the Primera Liga champions to play entertaining football, if it allowed The Blues to overturn the tie.
"There is not much point in playing beautiful football, but not going through," said Puyol.
"It's all about getting through to the next round, no matter how it is achieved.
"That's why I'd say to all Barcelona fans that they shouldn't get angry or impatient, if we have to change our style and play like Chelsea."

int3rpol
Mar 6 2006, 04:47 PM
Don't care as long as we are through.The man has a point.

FCBarca
Mar 6 2006, 05:40 PM
Don't care as long as we are through.The man has a point.


Playing too cautiously or conservatively can play right into their hands, however, is my concern.

Apart from the penalties that the referee missed in London, we should've gotten at least 2 or 3 more goals...2-1 is a slim margin and sitting back is a dangerous tactic, IMHO.

I think they have to play Barca football and 'take' the match rather than waiting on it...We'll see I guess...Just makes me a bit nervous:clap

FCBarca
Mar 6 2006, 05:45 PM
Saw this on FoxSports, thought it was interesting mix of confidence and respect for Messi...Enjoy


Yet defiant winger Duff insists it is not 'mission impossible' as the Republic of Ireland international said: "We know we need to win, as simple as that.

"But we definitely can win. I don't see why we can't. We can beat anyone on our day.

"We've faced tasks like this before at Chelsea and come through them, and if there is any squad in the world that can do this, it's us."

Duff believes Atletico Madrid showed the way to glory when they beat Barcelona 3-1 at the Nou Camp four weeks ago.

"They are beatable," the Irishman added. "I watched them the other week when they lost 3-1 to Atletico, so if they can do it, why can't we.

"Looking at them from last year they have virtually the same team, and we know what their weaknesses are.

"Obviously, we didn't exploit them as much as we would have liked at home, but then we were down 10 men after half an hour.

"This time it will be 11 versus 11 in Barcelona, so let's see what happens."

Duff, who watched the first leg from the bench but is expected to start, could only admire the skills of talented Argentina midfielder Lionel Messi, even if Mourinho accused him of 'play-acting'.

"Even though he was playing against us, he was awesome," remarked Duff.

"For a player who has just turned 18, the talent he has is ridiculous! He was great to watch, a fabulous player."




Nice credit to Messi...Although someone should remind Damien that Barca were operating on a slightly skeleton crew against Atletico.

FCBarca
Mar 6 2006, 08:53 PM
Interesting article from the BBC on strategies to defeat Barca at the Nou Camp for Chelsea.



Beating Barca
By Alistair Magowan


Chelsea travel to the Nou Camp to try and overturn a 2-1 deficit against Barcelona in Tuesday's second leg of their Champions League quarter-final.

But against some of the best attacking talent on the globe, how does Joes Mourinho prime his troops?

BBC Sport asks football experts in both countries on how they think Chelsea should tackle the game.


APPROACH

It would be easy to label the tie as a battle between the attacking glamour of Barcelona and the efficient solidity of Chelsea.

Mourinho and Rijkaard go head to head for the fourth time in two seasons

But that would ignore the delicately poised scoreline and that Mourinho's men need to score twice to win.

But former Liverpool midfielder and leading Spanish football presenter Michael Robinson thinks Chelsea should stick to what they are good at.

"Chelsea have to be faithful in their own way of playing football," he says.

"They play almost by memory and then with a certain eloquence when it gets wide and the midfield players come forward.

"If they want to come out of their own script and want to improvise then I think they'll get hammered."

And former Chelsea striker Gavin Peacock believes their formation will allow them the flexibility they need in such a crucial encounter.

"A lot of people are wondering if Jose Mourinho will play two up front because they need goals but I think Chelsea need to go out there with a patient attitude," he says.

"They'll break from a position of strength, get good possession and then get people moving forward from that."

"They won't fly forward like they did at the game at Stamford Bridge last season where they were 3-0 up in 20 minutes.

"Their system works if you've got two goalscoring wide players like he has with Arjen Robben, Joe Cole or even Damien Duff.

"It allows you to be really offensive as a 4-3-3 or tight as a 4-5-1 playing on the counter-attack.

"As well as the front three, you've also got Frank Lampard and Eidur Gudjohnsen in midfield who can also weigh in with goals.


KEY AREAS

"Mourinho will play it tight and frustrate Barca in the wide areas which were key for them at Stamford Bridge," explains Peacock.

"Crucial for Chelsea will be William Gallas. If he's playing left-back he'll be tight on Lionel Messi with Paulo Ferreira doing his job on Ronaldinho.

"Gallas is one of the best defenders around. He loves to defend. Messi will certainly have a tougher job than he did against Asier del Horno.

"And between John Terry and Ricardo Carvalho they kept Samuel Eto'o pretty quiet until they went down to 10 men.

"So it might not look that bad from a defensive point of view."


STOPPING BARCA

Stopping Ronaldinho, Messi, Eto'o, Deco and Henrik Larsson from the bench might sound like plugging a gap in a leaking dam.

But only last month Atletico Madrid went to the Nou Camp in La Liga and won 3-1.

Robinson says: "If you can keep the football away from Barcelona then they will suffer.

"If you look at all their players, they love to have the ball and if they haven't got it they almost become widowed.


Lionel Messi will have less room against William Gallas

"Barcelona are not a team which likes to chase the ball, to play behind it or follow players around the pitch. In fact they defend by attacking.

"Teams that have had any sort of good result against Barca are the teams which have managed to keep the ball away from them.

"It's about starving the creative players like Messi, Ronaldinho and Deco. If those players haven't had it for a while they get cold.

"And when they do get the ball they'll feel they've got to compensate so they'll start getting more complicated with the ball which can lead to errors.

"One of Chelsea's assets is attacking quickly, but I'd get them to keep the ball for keeping's sake."


VERDICT

"There is definite caution here (in Spain), the tie isn't decided yet," says Robinson.

"I think Barca will win but I'm not sure. They are the most exciting football team I've seen in many, many a year.

"But if there is one team in Europe who I think could turn this around it would be Chelsea.

"There are two very contrasting styles and it depends who slams their fist on the table in the first 20 minutes and says, 'we're playing like this'."

Peacock adds: "The first goal is all important in this game.

"If Barca score first I don't think Chelsea will get through. If Chelsea score first then I think they've got a great chance."

Killah
Mar 7 2006, 12:59 AM
Guys, what are the chances of Jimmy Jump "attacking" Mou in the dying stages of the game, would be fantastic

kw8e
Mar 7 2006, 04:10 AM
from Goal.com (long but worth reading):

Barcelona-Chelsea: A Tactical Analysis

With the Chelsea – Barcelona saga about to come to its conclusion, at least on the pitch, goal.com's Abhishek Thakur analyses team selection and strategy once again.
http://www.goal.com/images/1085_news.jpg
As expected, both coaches compensated for their natural tendencies two weeks ago: Mourinho aseerting himself by playing Gudjohnsen in midfield, and Rijkaard playing the away game for once, by starting Motta. Cold logic suggests that little should change from last time, for either side.
However, if asked for a one-liner this time, I would have to say, “Watch out for a Mourinho special.” He will be so keen to make an impact, be talked about as someone going for a kill, someone plotting Barcelona's downfall, someone adding a touch of genuis, that I would be very surprised if he didn 't surprise me.
Which we shall come to in a moment. Rijkaard, meanwhile, would also be itching to hit out, given the raging fire beneath the calm exterior, and everything else surrounding this tie.

Rijkaard's Midfield Temptation
There will be a huge temptation for Rijkaard to sacrifice Motta for Van Bommel or Iniesta. He would so love to go for the jugular, backed by close to 100,000 crazy fans. Chelsea need at least two goals, and a couple from Barcelona could really be game, set, and match, so to speak.
And yet, he would have to be wary, for should Chelsea sneak one, the tie will be thrown wide open. Despite the own goal under pressure from Terry, Motta did some good work on the pitch last time around, and will ensure once again, that Barcelona are not left panicking at every free-kick, every corner.
Rijkaard will also feel relatively positive that Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Messi, with support from Deco, can provide sufficient firepower up front, especially when Chelsea come forward.
However, the biggest reason, almost appropriately, is the psychological impact of a cool, calm, collected first twenty minutes, with loads of possession, and some neat passing, on Mourinho and Chelsea. The Blues will grow fidgety by the minute, and take risks, come out looking for the ball, and go forward in greater numbers every time.
This could all play into Barcelona's hands, provided they don't fall aseep defensively. And that is why, Motta it is likely to be, alongside Deco and Edmilson, with Iniesta, Van Bommel, or perhaps even Larsson, having to wait their turn.
All that said, this is a second leg tie, and Rijkaard isn't one to just sit back and let things happen.

Mourinho's Special Plans
Love him or loathe him, you simply cannot ignore him. The fact of the matter is, he is a great tactician, and comes out fighting when cornered. Look at last year's tie! He surprised the footballing world in the second leg, by selecting Gudjohnsen alongside Lampard in midfield.
Everyone was left gasping as Chelsea raced to a 3-0 lead, completely destroying Barcelona on the back of what was described as 'absolutely brilliant' and 'pure genius from the Special One' by the commentators. So what could he have up his sleeve this time around?
His first option is to switch to a 4-4-2, with Crespo and Drogba up front, and Lampard and Makelele behind, with Cole and Robben offering width. That would catch Rijkaard completely off guard, and rattle the Barcelona defense big time, no two ways about that.
It would also be the kind of thing that could have the press ranting and raving if it were to succeed. The problem, however, is that Barcelona would relish the amount of space they would find in the middle of the pitch, and Mourinho will want to think twice before allowing Barcelona that luxury.
Yet, that remains his best bet for a surprise. Secondly, he could start Duff at (virtual) left back if he was really audacious, with virtually a three man defense, as he has done of late when needing to come back. It could leave Barcelona in tatters down their right, with Oleguer struggling to keep up with just Robben last time around.
But that seems doomed, at least to me, given the need to man-mark Messi down that flank. The prospect of a three man defense marking Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Messi, makes one wonder if Mourinho will go for it, as we all know what the Special One feels about a hockey scoreline. That the match could turn crazy beyond imagination, is also why this sound unlikely, although this could be his big second-half gamble.
But then again, he is Mourinho, and a cornered one at that.
I am running out of options now, so I must place my bet. If last week's selection of Gudjohnsen was a matter of choice, this week's could be a matter of compulsion. Chelsea need to have a go at the Barcelona defense, which can be shaky when tested. And their best bet of rattling them without getting rattled, is sticking to the formation from last week, and indeed, the one from the second leg last year.
It might indeed be the same eleven, with Gallas coming in for Del Horno. It would be appropriate too, as the same team held their own against Barcelona for a while. The plan was nipped in the bud when Mourinho had to sacrifice Joe Cole, arguably his best player at the moment, after going a man down.
It is debatable whether it should have been Cole, or maybe Gudjohnsen, who should have made way for Geremi, given that Barcelona are really vulnerable down the flanks. However, Mourinho's safety first approach after going a man down, and Gudjohnsen 's ability, and willingness to track back and fight for possession, together sound very reasonable.
But now, with Cole and Robben drawing defenders out of position, on a much wider pitch, and Lampard and Gudjohnsen barging into the spaces in the middle to support Drogba, life could get uncomfortable for Barcelona.
Makelele will have a big role to play in the scheme of things, but Mourinho can rely on the both Lampard and Gudjohnsen tracking back and help. Lampard's fitness worry could come in the way of such a role, but the big-hearted guy that he is, he is unlikely to even flinch.
That this strategy is no longer a surprise, takes nothing away from the fact that it is a really aggressive, and indeed, an effective one, which is exactly why Mourinho could be persuaded against something special for the occasion.
But then again, he is Mourinho.

The Wing Backs
The central defensive partnerships of Marquez and Puyol, and Terry and Carvalho, look too settled to disturb. An interesting sub-plot, however, is the selection of wing-backs, for both teams.
Chelsea will surely start with Gallas and Ferreira, but the question is: who takes the left back spot? Both are right sided, and even though Gallas is more used to playing on the left, it renders him totally useless in attack, as he has a dead left foot, and needs to turn and pass back into midfield with his right, every single time.
Ferreira, on the contrary, showed lots of heart in the position, and made some effective forays forward last time around, despite being on the wrong side. It might just tempt Mou to send Gallas out to the right. It will all come down to how aggressive he wants to be. Defensively, Ferreira has faced Ronaldinho a few times now, and is better off on the right, and Gallas might just use his experience well against Messi.
For Barcelona, it's once again a question of philosophy. For home fixtures, Rijkaard has typically gone for Sylvinho and Belletti, but with Cole and Robben waiting to tear them to pieces, he might once again play safe with the more determined, albeit slow, Gio and Oleguer. Despite being tilted towards caution, it is too close to call. A 'mix and match' approach wouldn't surprise me, either.

Substitutions
Either of the two teams will have to throw caution to the winds in the final stages, and here is what the coaches tend to do.
Rijkaard has two favourite moves. Firstly, he likes switching to attacking full backs, Sylvinho and Belletti, and secondly, taking off a midfielder and bringing on Larsson up front. A third strategy, would be to bring on Iniesta of Van Bommel to add more to the midfield.
Ezquerro and Maxi Lopez are unlikely to get a look-in, although Guily is an option should Barcelona vie for a more direct approach. Rijkaard is unlikely to make any defensive substitutions, if he wants to coast through at the end, partially because he has precious few options.
Mourinho will look to get Duff on the pitch, perhaps at the cost of the left-back. Secondly, if he does start without Crespo, bringing the Argentinean on would add to the attack. He will be careful about going for gung-ho too much too soon, though. Should they get the goals they need, look for Maniche and Geremi to come scampering onto the pitch to make their presence felt.

Another Open Game
This one should be as open, if not more, than the last. Both teams will have their spells, and although Chelsea need to make more of theirs, the tie is as wide open as it could be. And should Mourinho decide to dish out one of his specials, it could become totally crazy.
Barcelona will be able to play their smooth, passing football, and should do better than last time, but so should Chelsea with eleven men. A cracker in store, with repurcussions off the pich, no matter what happens on it.

Barcelona: 4-3-3. Valdes – Oleguer, Marquez, Puyol, Gio – Edmilson, Deco, Motta – Messi, Eto'o, Ronaldinho.
Chelsea: 4-3-3/4-4-2. Cech – Ferreira, Carvalho, Terry, Gallas – Lampard, Makelele, Gudjohnsen/Crespo – Cole, Drogba, Robben.
Abhishek Thakur

red devils
Mar 7 2006, 08:12 AM
Cmon barca,thrash chelsea

BanRay
Mar 7 2006, 09:57 AM
Less than 8 hours to go, now I really can't wait...

mhrelayyan
Mar 7 2006, 10:08 AM
I hope that we crush them , if not just get them out of the Cl

BanRay
Mar 7 2006, 10:12 AM
Simply getting through to the quarters will satisfy me.

kw8e
Mar 7 2006, 11:04 AM
Simply getting through to the quarters will satisfy me.

Nah...winning the CL (but not as much as dumping Chelsea out of it :laugh)

Mare
Mar 7 2006, 02:08 PM
Cmon barca,thrash chelsea

That is what I was going to say! :devil
And thrash them good! :dk

Scholesy18
Mar 7 2006, 02:45 PM
Forza Barca:D:D

Força Barça
Mar 7 2006, 03:06 PM
Forza Barca:D:D

Yes....!??!?!?!

Scholesy18
Mar 7 2006, 03:18 PM
Yes....!??!?!?!
i had a feeling you'd do that when i saw your name as the last poster:laugh

anyways not you, Forza Barca the TEAM, you know the one that's gonna fvck up chelski;)

Força Barça
Mar 7 2006, 03:23 PM
i had a feeling you'd do that when i saw your name as the last poster:laugh

anyways not you, Forza Barca the TEAM, you know the one that's gonna fvck up chelski;)
Aha....... right Forza the team Barca...now I get it..:laugh:laugh:laugh

I hope we fvck up moronho more then the team chelsea...
Recipe would be a: 1-0 Lead to Chelsea & then a red card for one chelski players & then a thunder of goals for Barca....that ought to make Moronho furious!!! Id love that

Scholesy18
Mar 7 2006, 03:26 PM
Aha....... right Forza the team Barca...now I get it..:laugh:laugh:laugh

I hope we fvck up moronho more then the team chelsea...
Recipe would be a: 1-0 Lead to Chelsea & then a red card for one chelski players & then a thunder of goals for Barca....that ought to make Moronho furious!!! Id love that
the red card for chelski sound awfully familiar, now where did i see that before?:laugh :laugh

blaugranablood
Mar 7 2006, 03:33 PM
some channel called setanta sports available on direct tv(i have no idea what either are) are showing the game in the US, you can catch the game in a US bar for deffo tho, btw any idea if we'll be able to watch this game in scotland, since it seems itv are showing the 'gers ?Yes they are and in itv 2 they show rangers so we end up haviung rangers in both channels.If you have sky digital then you can select the english itv version and the chelsea match will be on that.

blaugranablood
Mar 7 2006, 03:37 PM
Simply getting through to the quarters will satisfy me.really? I want nothing less than to win the CL anything else will be a disappointment,who cares if we put chelsea out and then not win it.I dislike chelsea and madrid but I love Barca first and formeost.It seems to me that many barca fans are more anti-madrid and anti chelsea than barca fans,.thats probably why we haven't won as many trophies as we should have,cause if we beat madrid in th league we were happy enough.Don't get me wrong I 'd love to see the demise of chelsea and madrid but first and foremost barca to win always!

Barça009
Mar 7 2006, 03:37 PM
Yes they are and in itv 2 they show rangers so we end up haviung rangers in both channels.If you have sky digital then you can select the english itv version and the chelsea match will be on that.
So tonight there will be two Rangers games on ITV (1 & 4)?

I do have Sky Digital so I just press red and change it to the English channel?

blaugranablood
Mar 7 2006, 03:42 PM
So tonight there will be two Rangers games on ITV (1 & 4)?

I do have Sky Digital so I just press red and change it to the English channel?I think it is a bit more complex than that you have to go through set up and add other channels,change a few things on your set up like frequency etc,better start now,don't leave it for just before the match!if you go to the itv website it will tell you exactly what to do.

blaugranablood
Mar 7 2006, 03:47 PM
from Goal.com (long but worth reading):

Barcelona-Chelsea: A Tactical Analysis

With the Chelsea – Barcelona saga about to come to its conclusion, at least on the pitch, goal.com's Abhishek Thakur analyses team selection and strategy once again.
http://www.goal.com/images/1085_news.jpg
As expected, both coaches compensated for their natural tendencies two weeks ago: Mourinho aseerting himself by playing Gudjohnsen in midfield, and Rijkaard playing the away game for once, by starting Motta. Cold logic suggests that little should change from last time, for either side.
However, if asked for a one-liner this time, I would have to say, “Watch out for a Mourinho special.” He will be so keen to make an impact, be talked about as someone going for a kill, someone plotting Barcelona's downfall, someone adding a touch of genuis, that I would be very surprised if he didn 't surprise me.
Which we shall come to in a moment. Rijkaard, meanwhile, would also be itching to hit out, given the raging fire beneath the calm exterior, and everything else surrounding this tie.

Rijkaard's Midfield Temptation
There will be a huge temptation for Rijkaard to sacrifice Motta for Van Bommel or Iniesta. He would so love to go for the jugular, backed by close to 100,000 crazy fans. Chelsea need at least two goals, and a couple from Barcelona could really be game, set, and match, so to speak.
And yet, he would have to be wary, for should Chelsea sneak one, the tie will be thrown wide open. Despite the own goal under pressure from Terry, Motta did some good work on the pitch last time around, and will ensure once again, that Barcelona are not left panicking at every free-kick, every corner.
Rijkaard will also feel relatively positive that Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Messi, with support from Deco, can provide sufficient firepower up front, especially when Chelsea come forward.
However, the biggest reason, almost appropriately, is the psychological impact of a cool, calm, collected first twenty minutes, with loads of possession, and some neat passing, on Mourinho and Chelsea. The Blues will grow fidgety by the minute, and take risks, come out looking for the ball, and go forward in greater numbers every time.
This could all play into Barcelona's hands, provided they don't fall aseep defensively. And that is why, Motta it is likely to be, alongside Deco and Edmilson, with Iniesta, Van Bommel, or perhaps even Larsson, having to wait their turn.
All that said, this is a second leg tie, and Rijkaard isn't one to just sit back and let things happen.

Mourinho's Special Plans
Love him or loathe him, you simply cannot ignore him. The fact of the matter is, he is a great tactician, and comes out fighting when cornered. Look at last year's tie! He surprised the footballing world in the second leg, by selecting Gudjohnsen alongside Lampard in midfield.
Everyone was left gasping as Chelsea raced to a 3-0 lead, completely destroying Barcelona on the back of what was described as 'absolutely brilliant' and 'pure genius from the Special One' by the commentators. So what could he have up his sleeve this time around?
His first option is to switch to a 4-4-2, with Crespo and Drogba up front, and Lampard and Makelele behind, with Cole and Robben offering width. That would catch Rijkaard completely off guard, and rattle the Barcelona defense big time, no two ways about that.
It would also be the kind of thing that could have the press ranting and raving if it were to succeed. The problem, however, is that Barcelona would relish the amount of space they would find in the middle of the pitch, and Mourinho will want to think twice before allowing Barcelona that luxury.
Yet, that remains his best bet for a surprise. Secondly, he could start Duff at (virtual) left back if he was really audacious, with virtually a three man defense, as he has done of late when needing to come back. It could leave Barcelona in tatters down their right, with Oleguer struggling to keep up with just Robben last time around.
But that seems doomed, at least to me, given the need to man-mark Messi down that flank. The prospect of a three man defense marking Ronaldinho, Eto'o and Messi, makes one wonder if Mourinho will go for it, as we all know what the Special One feels about a hockey scoreline. That the match could turn crazy beyond imagination, is also why this sound unlikely, although this could be his big second-half gamble.
But then again, he is Mourinho, and a cornered one at that.
I am running out of options now, so I must place my bet. If last week's selection of Gudjohnsen was a matter of choice, this week's could be a matter of compulsion. Chelsea need to have a go at the Barcelona defense, which can be shaky when tested. And their best bet of rattling them without getting rattled, is sticking to the formation from last week, and indeed, the one from the second leg last year.
It might indeed be the same eleven, with Gallas coming in for Del Horno. It would be appropriate too, as the same team held their own against Barcelona for a while. The plan was nipped in the bud when Mourinho had to sacrifice Joe Cole, arguably his best player at the moment, after going a man down.
It is debatable whether it should have been Cole, or maybe Gudjohnsen, who should have made way for Geremi, given that Barcelona are really vulnerable down the flanks. However, Mourinho's safety first approach after going a man down, and Gudjohnsen 's ability, and willingness to track back and fight for possession, together sound very reasonable.
But now, with Cole and Robben drawing defenders out of position, on a much wider pitch, and Lampard and Gudjohnsen barging into the spaces in the middle to support Drogba, life could get uncomfortable for Barcelona.
Makelele will have a big role to play in the scheme of things, but Mourinho can rely on the both Lampard and Gudjohnsen tracking back and help. Lampard's fitness worry could come in the way of such a role, but the big-hearted guy that he is, he is unlikely to even flinch.
That this strategy is no longer a surprise, takes nothing away from the fact that it is a really aggressive, and indeed, an effective one, which is exactly why Mourinho could be persuaded against something special for the occasion.
But then again, he is Mourinho.

The Wing Backs
The central defensive partnerships of Marquez and Puyol, and Terry and Carvalho, look too settled to disturb. An interesting sub-plot, however, is the selection of wing-backs, for both teams.
Chelsea will surely start with Gallas and Ferreira, but the question is: who takes the left back spot? Both are right sided, and even though Gallas is more used to playing on the left, it renders him totally useless in attack, as he has a dead left foot, and needs to turn and pass back into midfield with his right, every single time.
Ferreira, on the contrary, showed lots of heart in the position, and made some effective forays forward last time around, despite being on the wrong side. It might just tempt Mou to send Gallas out to the right. It will all come down to how aggressive he wants to be. Defensively, Ferreira has faced Ronaldinho a few times now, and is better off on the right, and Gallas might just use his experience well against Messi.
For Barcelona, it's once again a question of philosophy. For home fixtures, Rijkaard has typically gone for Sylvinho and Belletti, but with Cole and Robben waiting to tear them to pieces, he might once again play safe with the more determined, albeit slow, Gio and Oleguer. Despite being tilted towards caution, it is too close to call. A 'mix and match' approach wouldn't surprise me, either.

Substitutions
Either of the two teams will have to throw caution to the winds in the final stages, and here is what the coaches tend to do.
Rijkaard has two favourite moves. Firstly, he likes switching to attacking full backs, Sylvinho and Belletti, and secondly, taking off a midfielder and bringing on Larsson up front. A third strategy, would be to bring on Iniesta of Van Bommel to add more to the midfield.
Ezquerro and Maxi Lopez are unlikely to get a look-in, although Guily is an option should Barcelona vie for a more direct approach. Rijkaard is unlikely to make any defensive substitutions, if he wants to coast through at the end, partially because he has precious few options.
Mourinho will look to get Duff on the pitch, perhaps at the cost of the left-back. Secondly, if he does start without Crespo, bringing the Argentinean on would add to the attack. He will be careful about going for gung-ho too much too soon, though. Should they get the goals they need, look for Maniche and Geremi to come scampering onto the pitch to make their presence felt.

Another Open Game
This one should be as open, if not more, than the last. Both teams will have their spells, and although Chelsea need to make more of theirs, the tie is as wide open as it could be. And should Mourinho decide to dish out one of his specials, it could become totally crazy.
Barcelona will be able to play their smooth, passing football, and should do better than last time, but so should Chelsea with eleven men. A cracker in store, with repurcussions off the pich, no matter what happens on it.

Barcelona: 4-3-3. Valdes – Oleguer, Marquez, Puyol, Gio – Edmilson, Deco, Motta – Messi, Eto'o, Ronaldinho.
Chelsea: 4-3-3/4-4-2. Cech – Ferreira, Carvalho, Terry, Gallas – Lampard, Makelele, Gudjohnsen/Crespo – Cole, Drogba, Robben.
Abhishek Thakur
funny how they only remember chelsea going 3 0 up and calling mourinho pure genius,the match lasts 90 mins of the 3 goals 1 was deflected and 1 xavi fell on his ass he wasn't dispossed he had an accident,then barca scored twice and chelsea were lucky not to get a 3rd scored against them.So pure genius my arse!he played like he always had and always will.
Bottom line both clubs have only one way of playing,barca flowing offensive football,chelsea gritty,direct unattractive but effective football.Chelsea will play cautious even today,keep it tight and try and nick a goal either half without going too gung ho.

Barça009
Mar 7 2006, 03:56 PM
I think it is a bit more complex than that you have to go through set up and add other channels,change a few things on your set up like frequency etc,better start now,don't leave it for just before the match!if you go to the itv website it will tell you exactly what to do.
Dude, I really can't thank you enough, if you hadn't said that I would never have known that I had to go through all that crap.
I added ITV 1 London and it says the Cl is on so I hope it is the Barca game.

For anyone else who has to do this, here is the frequency for ITV 1 London:

10.758V SR: 22.0 FEC: 5/6

Força Barça
Mar 7 2006, 04:02 PM
Dude, I really can't thank you enough, if you hadn't said that I would never have known that I had to go through all that crap.
I added ITV 1 London and it says the Cl is on so I hope it is the Barca game.

For anyone else who has to do this, here is the frequency for ITV 1 London:

10.758V SR: 22.0 FEC: 5/6

Otherwise you can watch it on a stream with Chineese Comm. its lovely :laugh

BanRay
Mar 7 2006, 04:17 PM
At least I don't have to worry about CL games, Viasat shows all of them.

Força Barça
Mar 7 2006, 04:22 PM
At least I don't have to worry about CL games, Viasat shows all of them.
Thats how Im gonna watch the game!! :clap

Btw...the streams are posted in the HL subforum..
If you cant see it I cant help you & wont be behind the comp to answer PM´s!!

Killah
Mar 7 2006, 04:57 PM
Chelseas Line Up

-------Cech
Ferriera-Carvalho-Terry-Gallas
---Makellele-Lampard
Duff----Cole------Robben
--------Dogsh1t

Killah
Mar 7 2006, 04:58 PM
Ours (not 100% confirmed)

Ole-Rafa-Puyi-Sylv
-------Ed
--Motta-Deco
Messi-Eto'o-R10

Killah
Mar 7 2006, 05:01 PM
Edit, its Gio instead of Sylvinho

Força Barça
Mar 7 2006, 05:03 PM
Edit, its Gio instead of Sylvinho

Wtf....Rijkaard!!! Gio is not close to Sylvinhos form!! Damn damn damn!

russell_q
Mar 7 2006, 05:38 PM
Anyone got a link to watch the game online?

RiverPlate10
Mar 7 2006, 05:40 PM
well going to a bar to watch the game....BARCA PLEASE RIP CHELSEA APART!!!:nod

so pumped up about this game, hope its a good one, but mostly importantly just want Barca to win....:clap

Fins Prompte
Mar 7 2006, 06:08 PM
well I am in class but following it through a tracker but Visca Barca.

Hope anyone following it can keep us posted

heleveeta
Mar 7 2006, 06:10 PM
Messi vs. gallas should be good.

heleveeta
Mar 7 2006, 06:11 PM
btw, for those who may be looking for the game in america, they're not shwoing it till 11:30 tonite, b/c of the f*cking world baseball classic. (pissed off)

Fins Prompte
Mar 7 2006, 06:15 PM
messi off for larsson. injury to his hamstring.

Dont even get me started on ESPN. No one here cares for those games.

int3rpol
Mar 7 2006, 06:15 PM
Messi :( :( :( , hope it ain't serious

Fins Prompte
Mar 7 2006, 06:36 PM
HT 0-0

Espn gamecast has it as

60% to 40% possession in favor of Barca
2 shots on goal for both but having 9 total shots and chelsea 2
17 fouls for chelsea, 14 for barca.

another 45 more minutes to go and stay sharp defensively and offensively.

fuXK
Mar 7 2006, 06:37 PM
dam i love watching ronaldinho

BanRay
Mar 7 2006, 06:39 PM
really? I want nothing less than to win the CL anything else will be a disappointment,who cares if we put chelsea out and then not win it.I dislike chelsea and madrid but I love Barca first and formeost.It seems to me that many barca fans are more anti-madrid and anti chelsea than barca fans,.thats probably why we haven't won as many trophies as we should have,cause if we beat madrid in th league we were happy enough.Don't get me wrong I 'd love to see the demise of chelsea and madrid but first and foremost barca to win always!


Chill! I was talking about tonight, not CL in general.

C
Mar 7 2006, 06:39 PM
pretty evenly matched game so far, im sure chelsea will be taking more chances 2nd half and the game will open up

kw8e
Mar 7 2006, 06:41 PM
not as exiting as the first game so far...hope it picks up in the 2nd half

hugetomatoes
Mar 7 2006, 06:46 PM
Messi can't do nothing against gallas, but messi and Ronaldinho owned Ferreira and J.Cole a while ago:nod

Fins Prompte
Mar 7 2006, 06:47 PM
makes u wonder why mourinho "special one" didnt pick gallas over del horno in the first place.

gato
Mar 7 2006, 07:09 PM
great flick on from larsson to eto'o. good shot good save. barca working really hard. chelsea finding hard to get ball out of their own half eto'o and larsson closing everything down.

this is a real team effort so far

int3rpol
Mar 7 2006, 07:22 PM
o.0 Puyol got the yellow, he's suspended for the next game.That's going to be a scary game

Roonaldo
Mar 7 2006, 07:23 PM
1-0 dinho :D bye bye chelsh!t

Fins Prompte
Mar 7 2006, 07:24 PM
Ronaldinhooooooo

1-0

int3rpol
Mar 7 2006, 07:25 PM
Game,set and match.

PJH
Mar 7 2006, 07:39 PM
what a complete non penalty.

anyway woooo FT 1-1

bye bye chelsea!:clap :drinkbeer :laugh

ada
Mar 7 2006, 07:41 PM
Well I'm delighted with that but the commentators made a mistake. They said the best player in the world just scored against Chelsea but Henry doesn't play for Barca. Not yet at least.

C
Mar 7 2006, 07:41 PM
wow...everyone on the danm chelsea team was offsides before that pk but whatever, eat sh*t mourinho u lost

ruudlover
Mar 7 2006, 07:52 PM
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooo

:D

Better team won, barca just controlled the game and made it look dead easy, some of the passing in and around was emmence

I could watch Ronalinho all day, what a freaking player

Felt for poor Messi, he was dead upset :(

Ref was crap, never let the game flow

MaidenMadness
Mar 7 2006, 07:53 PM
better team won today.
regardless of what mourinho might say i think that everybody with a proper set of eyes could have seen that

kw8e
Mar 7 2006, 07:53 PM
Ole' Ole' Ole' BARCA BARCA :clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

Fins Prompte
Mar 7 2006, 08:01 PM
FORCA BARCA

My wireless connecton crapped out on me right after the goal.

Anyways, El Special One got it wrong again.

Why did you bring on Huth??? You need goals!
Why did you bring on SWP in the first leg but not this leg?

Great genious but opted for Del Horno over Gallas and we saw how great Gallas was. I hope he does leave Chelsea and comes over here.

Bye Bye Chelsea and bye bye Mourinho. No more drama from the drama queen.

Still no english team can win here.

Off to the final 8 and the best player in the world showed us why in both legs.

Hey bergkamp 10, come again? What's wrong with this team defensively. Told you that Marquez and Motta were not involved in the second leg last year but you felt to ignore it. We saw how good chelsea's lame ass offense was eh.

260 minutes against Chelsea and chelsea shows us 30 minutes of attacking football.

AcesHigh
Mar 7 2006, 08:02 PM
messi off for larsson. injury to his hamstring.

Dont even get me started on ESPN. No one here cares for those games.

ESPN Latin America shows all the Champions League games... one live, the a videotape of the other 2 matches of the day, and later in the night they repeat again the first game.

Força Barça
Mar 7 2006, 08:13 PM
Hahaha Moronho said: Its now proven that Chelsea cannot be beaten 11 against 11....he is s o pathetic...ok you go be glad about that you arse but know that we are through no matter how many men you got...I couldnt care less if its unfare....WE ARE THROUGH & you can go back to your potato field!!

Fins Prompte
Mar 7 2006, 08:15 PM
yeah that's latin america amigo.

pero aqui en EU, baseball took over them for today and tomorrow so no Champions league football unless you have espn deportes, which is your latino espn and I would rather have that than espn 2 or espn classic.

kw8e
Mar 7 2006, 08:15 PM
I'm pissed at Puyol's yellow, why did he have to go for that uncalled for tackle? Anyway, Chelsea's out who's next?

Hawk
Mar 7 2006, 08:20 PM
Edmilson & Marquez:clap :clap

gato
Mar 7 2006, 08:22 PM
do not be pissed at anyone tonight.

our team were great. they worked so hard. the strikers ran their socks off.

the midfield ran their socks off.

the defence ran their socks off

5 star effort all round


forca barca :clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

Barça009
Mar 7 2006, 08:22 PM
It wasn't a great game, not one I personally will remember in terms of great football like Barca usually play. But as Puyol and Edmilson already said sorry for it and I can understand why we needed to do it.

It is a real shame Messi missed out on this, the team didn't look as fearce going forward. I hope he is back soon and it isn't bad.

It is going to be very worrying in the next round with Puyol out of the first leg.
I really can't see any other team being able to beat us because every other team I have watched and thought, only if Barca were playing them, it would be 3 or 4-nil to us. Oh man, can't wait.

blaugranablood
Mar 7 2006, 08:24 PM
really pissed off.I really wanted to see barca win home and away!Yes I am pleased we are through,but that pen just spoilt the day for me!I realy wanted barca to win.Chelsea were pathetic and that made barca play the way they did.For a team that needed to score twice they looked incredibly cautious to me.they play crespo for drogba with 20 mins to go and then they throw in Huth as a striker!!why not just play crespo and drogba if you are that desperate,it just really showed that chelsea didn't believe they could do it,barca played at 50% most of the match,oleguer for all his critics was great as was marquez.Ronaldinho just had fun out there,whatever happened to terry and carajo for the goal!I wonder what Mo has to say about the pen?He even looked happy in the end cause he got a draw,when he should have lost.But he knows his standard and knows that a draw at the nou camp is good for historical stats,good for his c.v.

Força Barça
Mar 7 2006, 08:32 PM
Barcelona - Chelsea [1-1]
1-0 Ronaldinho (http://files.filefront.com/RonaldinhoChealseazip/;4853025;;/fileinfo.html)
1-1 Lampard (Penalty) (http://files.filefront.com/LampardBarcelonazip/;4853109;;/fileinfo.html)

Im so proud that we have another dimension in the team....I loved the defence..why cant it be like this all the time...This showed we can both Attack the craap out of team but also defend the shiit out of them!!

Mourinho......I hope you are in misery....there is a long time left for you to be able to get a revenge...I hope you are in misery during your long long wait

Azulgrana
Mar 7 2006, 08:32 PM
http://www.soccernet.com/design05/DJ/20060305/jose_pc.jpg

wonder if he shoock is hand???

Fins Prompte
Mar 7 2006, 08:33 PM
again blau, we keep saying that he sucks as a CB!!!

CHRIST man, how many times do you need to stick up for the guy when we criticize him as a CB and not as a RB. your his brother or something?

avi
Mar 7 2006, 08:36 PM
F*** you chelsea...I'd love too hear what Mourinho had to play. He should pray to God Messi got injured...

Like Terry once said..."You played them off the park"

One word...Ronaldinho - he pi$$ed all over the Chelsea team. I liked it how that player rugby tackled him.. it's the only way to bring him down. It's like he's got glue or a magnet on his foot...

Looks like Mourinho likes to teach his own players some theatre. Drogba, you f***** diver. I saw what he did on Sunday too... And Terry, you got that penalty out of pitty...

avi
Mar 7 2006, 08:37 PM
F*** you chelsea...I'd love too hear what Mourinho had to play. He should pray to God Messi got injured...

Like Terry once said..."You played them off the park"

One word...Ronaldinho - he pi$$ed all over the Chelsea team. I liked it how that player rugby tackled him.. it's the only way to bring him down. It's like he's got glue or a magnet on his foot...

Looks like Mourinho likes to teach his own players some theatre. Drogba, you f***** diver. I saw what he did on Sunday too... And Terry, you got that penalty out of pitty...

leeman
Mar 7 2006, 08:56 PM
chuffed to bits with that. well done barca

Madrid14
Mar 7 2006, 08:57 PM
Hehe Ronaldinho was out of this world 2nite :bowing Fancy sendin him over to Highbury tomorrow night? we'll give him back... promise

Anyone have news on how Messi is?

Killah
Mar 7 2006, 08:59 PM
good thing we won man, i shat myself when Mou brought on Huth as an extra attacking option :ninja

SMG316
Mar 7 2006, 09:02 PM
Congrats.

Was rooting for you guys to go through and you didnt disappoint :bruno

I dunno if you guys feel the same, and even tho im not a barca fan per se- i hate seeing Dino play whre he was today.........he doesnt get enough opportunity to influence the game as much as he can if he was down teh middle.

Shame about Messi going off.............wanted to see his skills.

Hoping that we get through tomorrow and dont get u guys :holy247 :holy247

Fowksee
Mar 7 2006, 09:04 PM
Azulgrana in that pic ronaldinho is going to shake someone elses hand, the guy behind Mourinoh.

Anyway congrats to Barca, finally a game with no excuses, no controversy, just a normal game (bit boring imo lol). But thats all barca needed. I truly do hope you go on and win the CL.

Fowksee
Mar 7 2006, 09:05 PM
I dunno if you guys feel the same, and even tho im not a barca fan per se- i hate seeing Dino play whre he was today.........he doesnt get enough opportunity to influence the game as much as he can if he was down teh middle.




I aint a Barca fan either, but im pretty sure thats where ronaldinho alway plays, at least when its, Ronaldinho---Eto'o---Messi.

Bergkamp_is_god
Mar 7 2006, 09:05 PM
Lmao, that sure put the 'special needs one' in his place. Well done Barca :D :D

Força Barça
Mar 7 2006, 09:16 PM
Lmao, that sure put the 'special needs one' in his place. Well done Barca :D :D

Im so glad right now Im could even let you cook me some english dish :nod

Barça009
Mar 7 2006, 09:21 PM
:D
Just remembered, that is me £10 up due to the bet with terminator.
And IBES, I think you had a bet on with him to put a Barca sig on until the end of the CL. ;)

clarity
Mar 7 2006, 09:21 PM
This is football ...when day the ball is in ur field and ur incontrol and the next thing u know its in ronaldinhos feet no one would ever get the ball again ...


to be honest ronaldinho should be claimed the player of the century and 1 man in my opinion is in his level which Diego armando maradona...


so for everyone who lives to see him and enjoy this unique style of football is very lucky...and i hope to see more ronaldinhos in the future but as far as messi gets in my opinion ronaldinho is just the king of the 21century ....and tell the moron to take that penalty back home with him....and barcelona fans are goin to threaten the referee for that bull**** goal hahahahahah

anyhow really its a negative to hear puyol is missing next match but i guess this team we got this year is just unstopable...

PEACE and hope u all enjoyed the match

Killah
Mar 7 2006, 09:27 PM
Mourinhos suggesting Chelsea are allowed to the G14 next year to help them :laugh

blaugranablood
Mar 7 2006, 09:29 PM
again blau, we keep saying that he sucks as a CB!!!

CHRIST man, how many times do you need to stick up for the guy when we criticize him as a CB and not as a RB. your his brother or something?People say he is **** at everywhere constantly i just put my money where my mouth is others don't.They say he is **** all season even playing as RB(I know you don't)then when he plays well its a coincidence or they say what u just said.
I am not his bro but someone has to stand up for him if he is unfairly critisized!I am a barca fan and support all players even the ones i don't rate.

blaugranablood
Mar 7 2006, 09:34 PM
Azulgrana in that pic ronaldinho is going to shake someone elses hand, the guy behind Mourinoh.

Anyway congrats to Barca, finally a game with no excuses, no controversy, just a normal game (bit boring imo lol). But thats all barca needed. I truly do hope you go on and win the CL.No controversies?is it only if it happens in barca's favour?I saw an offside and a dive from terry!ok it wasn't going to mean much,but i was pissed off my team didn't win the match because of that!I am sure the english press won't say that their golden boy defender dived though,or speak about refereeing or theatre!

Fins Prompte
Mar 7 2006, 09:36 PM
:D
Just remembered, that is me £10 up due to the bet with terminator.
And IBES, I think you had a bet on with him to put a Barca sig on until the end of the CL. ;)

yeah, I was looking for that thread.

I think even he knew they wouldn't do it when he pmed me about the bet.

can u find me that thread?

Barça009
Mar 7 2006, 09:39 PM
People say he is **** at everywhere constantly i just put my money where my mouth is others don't.They say he is **** all season even playing as RB(I know you don't)then when he plays well its a coincidence or they say what u just said.
I am not his bro but someone has to stand up for him if he is unfairly critisized!I am a barca fan and support all players even the ones i don't rate.
Good post, I think Oleguer is being under-rated by almost everyone. He does play well for us sometimes.
I do admit he can be a fool sometimes when he trys to defend but there is no point or need for criticizing him all the time. He deserves some respect because he does afterall play first team football for one of the biggest clubs in the world.

Killah
Mar 7 2006, 09:40 PM
btw Villarreal also won today, so we get more money from them for Roman :D

Immortal-Gunner
Mar 7 2006, 09:42 PM
Im no Chelsea fan but im Always 100% behind The English Teams In Europe Regardless But In All Honesty I Think Chelsea Where Good For The Draw But In Saying That Im Dissapointed Cause They Dident Try hard Enougth To Score Goals But Barcelona Are Into The Next Round And Fair Play To Them And I Think Now Chelsea Are Out They Are Very Strong Fav's .. As Far As The Penalty Go's It Was A Bit Harsh But I Feel The Red Card On Del Horno In The First Leg Was Very Harsh To So Fate Kinda Worked It's Magic ....

P.S How Intresting Whould The Match have Got If Crespo Had Scored |That Effort That Went Inche's Wide Mid Way Throw The Second Half..

Immortal-Gunner
Mar 7 2006, 09:42 PM
Im no Chelsea fan but im Always 100% behind The English Teams In Europe Regardless But In All Honesty I Think Chelsea Where Good For The Draw But In Saying That Im Dissapointed Cause They Dident Try hard Enougth To Score Goals But Barcelona Are Into The Next Round And Fair Play To Them And I Think Now Chelsea Are Out They Are Very Strong Fav's .. As Far As The Penalty Go's It Was A Bit Harsh But I Feel The Red Card On Del Horno In The First Leg Was Very Harsh To So Fate Kinda Worked It's Magic ....

P.S How Intresting Whould The Match have Got If Crespo Had Scored |That Effort That Went Inche's Wide Mid Way Throw The Second Half..

Fowksee
Mar 7 2006, 09:42 PM
No controversies?is it only if it happens in barca's favour?I saw an offside and a dive from terry!ok it wasn't going to mean much,but i was pissed off my team didn't win the match because of that!I am sure the english press won't say that their golden boy defender dived though,or speak about refereeing or theatre!

Terry kciked the boot of the defender aswell as the floor and tripped, it was never a penalty but I dont hink he dived to win it. Plenty of diving tonight aswell, but no need to go into that.

Killah
Mar 7 2006, 09:42 PM
One more thing, Cules during the game were singing Esto Es Teatro "This is theatre" :laugh

Raul7
Mar 7 2006, 10:09 PM
http://www.soccernet.com/design05/DJ/20060305/jose_pc.jpg

wonder if he shoock is hand???

LMAO! It looks like Moaningho wants to choke him rather than shake his hand. Sore loser! I just wished Barca had won so he wouldn't moan about their European record. :rolleyes:

Anyways, congrats to Barca. Hopefully tommorow RM will complete the Spanish treble. :dk

C
Mar 7 2006, 10:42 PM
Im no Chelsea fan but im Always 100% behind The English Teams In Europe Regardless But In All Honesty I Think Chelsea Where Good For The Draw But In Saying That Im Dissapointed Cause They Dident Try hard Enougth To Score Goals But Barcelona Are Into The Next Round And Fair Play To Them And I Think Now Chelsea Are Out They Are Very Strong Fav's .. As Far As The Penalty Go's It Was A Bit Harsh But I Feel The Red Card On Del Horno In The First Leg Was Very Harsh To So Fate Kinda Worked It's Magic ....

P.S How Intresting Whould The Match have Got If Crespo Had Scored |That Effort That Went Inche's Wide Mid Way Throw The Second Half..

just as interesting as if etoo didnt barely miss that one close shot off the post :drinkbeer

hamtaroboy
Mar 8 2006, 02:16 AM
Before Ronaldhino scored, John Terry charged towards him, he couldn't get the ball as Ronaldhino was in the way of course...and yes at that occassion I though Terry would bring him down as it's outside the box.
But he decided to go for the ball instead, well he paid the price, he was left strandled after his tackle missed, Dinho got away with the ball and bam..

I love the play by Ronaldhino. It really signifies Barca winning Chelsea. Lampard was behind Dhino, he tried to get the ball at the same time Terry did from in front and yes they are the best of Chelsea failing at the same moment just made this goal so sweet.

red devils
Mar 8 2006, 03:29 AM
Congrats guys,hope madrid and benfica do their job tonight

AcesHigh
Mar 8 2006, 04:16 AM
This is football ...when day the ball is in ur field and ur incontrol and the next thing u know its in ronaldinhos feet no one would ever get the ball again ...


to be honest ronaldinho should be claimed the player of the century and 1 man in my opinion is in his level which Diego armando maradona...



if you dont mention Pelé, its because you havent seen enough of him! Pelé was better than Maradona.

AcesHigh
Mar 8 2006, 04:18 AM
http://www.soccernet.com/design05/DJ/20060305/jose_pc.jpg

wonder if he shoock is hand???

clearly Ronaldinho is not on the same plane as Mourinho... you can notice that due to the difference in focus... they are the same size (thus losing the perspective) due to the teleobjective lens zoom. Ronaldinho is actually going to shake hands with the guy in suit behind Mourinho...

Fins Prompte
Mar 8 2006, 04:30 AM
how about props to the defense for doing their job and more props to Valdes for not doing another butter fingers performance nor giving up rebounds either.

zib
Mar 8 2006, 04:46 AM
FU(K YOU CHELSKI YOU MOTHER****AS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! I'M FU(KING OVER THE MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't see the match in full only bits and pieces here and there. I missed the goal but i just D/L it and it looks sweet. I'll definately be watching the replay tonight. :D

MoaningHomo can now SHUT THE FU(K UP once and for all. Fu(king arrogant cvnt.

BanRay
Mar 8 2006, 04:50 AM
Where are the Chelsea fans, it's been about three pages since I last met one :laugh


And that penalty was a total joke, Terry got the ball in an offside position kicked Gio and got the penalty, ridiculous really.

BanRay
Mar 8 2006, 04:59 AM
Mourinho: 'Del Horno red made difference'


Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho says Asier del Horno's first-leg sending-off was the key to his side's premature Champions League exit. The Portuguese coach saw the Premiership champions held 1-1 by Barcelona on Tuesday to tumble out of the competition 3-2 on aggregate.

But Mourinho was adamant that the red card shown to his Spain left-back in the first half of the first-leg after a hefty tackle on Lionel Messi ultimately led to the Blues' downfall.

"I think the key moment was the sending-off of Del Horno in London," said Mourinho. "I keep saying that at this level of football, details make the difference.

"When I was champion with Porto, we scored a goal in the last minute. Last season, we couldn't score against Liverpool with an open goal. This season, we had to play for an hour with ten men.

"But we have to deal with reality and the reality is that if Barcelona are in the second round, they deserve to be there. They can think about the quarter-finals and we can think about the Premiership and the FA Cup."


__________________________________________________ ____________________________________________


It's a joy to realize that this guy was just knocked out of the competition.

Fins Prompte
Mar 8 2006, 05:00 AM
yeah and when Barca had two clear penalties, no whistle but poor chelsea fans where crying that they got screwed by the ref even though there were t2 penalties and an obvious hand ball by terry and dry hump on messi that were not called for.

By the way, this is the same ref that red carded Messi which caused him to miss the England game.

Fins Prompte
Mar 8 2006, 05:02 AM
hey mourninho, paul scholes goal that was wrongfully called offsides got you the CL trophy and the cushy job with Chelsea. Funny how you don't mention that one.

addycruise_1
Mar 8 2006, 05:03 AM
with the performance yesterday night there was no way chelski was gonna beat you , between dinho's goal was another moment of class he has shown against chelski in two years the run was astounding and the defenders just going down like nine pins besides him. good luck for the next leg and congrats on beating chelski which has been the fans dream from last year.

BanRay
Mar 8 2006, 05:10 AM
with the performance yesterday night there was no way chelski was gonna beat you...


Thanx mate, but it was nothing compared to Barca's potential :nod

zib
Mar 8 2006, 05:15 AM
Did Rijkaard jump up and down like a w@nker after the final whistle like MoaningHomosexual did on the weekend? I would've loved to seen it happen. If i had been Frank, i would've done it. I would've ran over to Chelski's dugout and grabbed my nuts and look in the direction of the biggest cvnt out of the lot and yelled "suck on that you cvnt".

Jere Markus
Mar 8 2006, 05:25 AM
we knew chelski was in trouble, cause they had to score minimum 2 goals.. it is not their strategy. they were taken out of their comfort zone.

barca is a great team and could win it all if Arsenal doesnt
good performance by barca

Fins Prompte
Mar 8 2006, 05:34 AM
where are all those who said that barca players are bullies. You notice how chelsea players ganged up on Valdes when the bs penalty was called.

Ironic on how the Barca players were called bullies when it's their players that gang up on refs and players and also have fans issue death threats.

zib
Mar 8 2006, 05:38 AM
I rekon Ronnie's life is gonna be in danger from now on after this tie. Chelski's Russian Mafia will be putting him on their Top 10 Hit List gauranteed. I suggest he wears a bulletproof vest from now on all day, every day. Even during matches.

Jere Markus
Mar 8 2006, 05:52 AM
I have to admit, however, that the behaviour of some barca fans.. those who go spitting mourinho etc. is sad..

and Ronnie is safe as long as Abra/Mourinho think they have a little hope of signing him sometimes in the future.. ;)

anyway - we can talk about footy. Mourinho likes to draw the attention away from footy and talk about the ref, suspensions and other irrelevant stuff. What decides on match day is what the players do on the pitch!

I hope Mourinho would talk more about that. So lets talk footy: I didnt see the match but it seems Drogba did s** all? How about Robben then, was he dangerous? From the match report I got the picture that Barca mostly controlled the midfield, making Lampard and Duff ineffective. Who gets the credit for that or the whole team?

zib
Mar 8 2006, 05:59 AM
I hope Mourinho would talk more about that. So lets talk footy: I didnt see the match but it seems Drogba did s** all? How about Robben then, was he dangerous? From the match report I got the picture that Barca mostly controlled the midfield, making Lampard and Duff ineffective. Who gets the credit for that or the whole team?
I only saw the first half and Predator did jack sh1t. Barca owned them in the first half and created all the chances. Chelski did not create anything. I didn't see the second half but i'll watch it tonight.

I did see in the second half where Crespo almost scored to make it 1-0 to Chelski. It went inches wide. Had that gone in, who knows what could've happened. Moaningcvnt made a mistake by playing Predator instead of Crespo. Hernan is fu(king class and they looked a better side when he came on.

Also the ref was fu(king sh1t. Blowing his whistle every fu(king second. He didn't let the game flow at all.

MaidenMadness
Mar 8 2006, 06:09 AM
Did Rijkaard jump up and down like a w@nker after the final whistle like MoaningHomosexual did on the weekend? I would've loved to seen it happen. If i had been Frank, i would've done it. I would've ran over to Chelski's dugout and grabbed my nuts and look in the direction of the biggest cvnt out of the lot and yelled "suck on that you cvnt".
i dont think he did that
frank keeps his dignity both when he's victorious and when he's beaten

zib
Mar 8 2006, 06:23 AM
Yeah i know he didn't do it :laugh. I wished he did though.

Fowksee
Mar 8 2006, 06:28 AM
He did have a jump up and down when the goal went in (Ronaldnho's). Which I cant blame him for, I was in awe of that goal.

kw8e
Mar 8 2006, 06:30 AM
Did Rijkaard jump up and down like a w@nker after the final whistle like MoaningHomosexual did on the weekend? I would've loved to seen it happen. If i had been Frank, i would've done it. I would've ran over to Chelski's dugout and grabbed my nuts and look in the direction of the biggest cvnt out of the lot and yelled "suck on that you cvnt".

:laugh

kw8e
Mar 8 2006, 06:40 AM
.... How about Robben then, was he dangerous? From the match report I got the picture that Barca mostly controlled the midfield, making Lampard and Duff ineffective. Who gets the credit for that or the whole team?

I think the best two players for Chelsea were Cole and Fereira. Robben, Lampard, and Duff seemed like ghosts (you didnt notice they were on the field). Credit to Barca for making them ineffective. I was shocked Mourinho picked Duff to start, I expected Gudjohnson instead.

mhrelayyan
Mar 8 2006, 07:13 AM
I wanted to crush them but anyway any result will do to let this ******* morinho shutup , nice goal from ronni

kw8e
Mar 8 2006, 07:13 AM
It may, but what happens if we score 3 or 4 ? and i wouldn't write us off as last season you's beat us in the 1st leg, and in the 2nd leg we can back and bit you's on the arse even if we were at home. Mourinho will have something planned for the 2nd leg, trust me on that one. He's got the recipe for winning and turning things around. What he has achieved in the last few years tells you everything. :nod

If you call "bringing Huth on as another striker" the recipe for winning and turning things around he's got allot of learning to do. What the hell was he thinking?

Redhat
Mar 8 2006, 07:32 AM
well played guys. chelsea were nowhere to be seen. messi is excellent. ronaldinho again was superb. i only watched first half (stupid uni), so i didnt see the goals. but after watching the first half there was no way in hell chelsea were going to come back in it. they had nothing. they couldnt keep the ball longer than 2 seconds, if that. i thought there might have been a penalty against etoo in the first half, im not sure, i saw it once and a replay and that was it.

too bad it wont be a spanish trifecta tonight :(

Hawk
Mar 8 2006, 07:36 AM
bringing Huth on as another striker


desperate times call for desperate measures...

Força Barça
Mar 8 2006, 07:47 AM
Did Rijkaard jump up and down like a w@nker after the final whistle like MoaningHomosexual did on the weekend? I would've loved to seen it happen. If i had been Frank, i would've done it. I would've ran over to Chelski's dugout and grabbed my nuts and look in the direction of the biggest cvnt out of the lot and yelled "suck on that you cvnt".

I think he did imagine that in his mind!! Rijkaard although showing calm most of the time is also a firey, *****...does anyone remember him as player...he was tough as a motha fvcker, maybe he has changed but I think he takes pills to depress his alter ego.

sevillamaniac
Mar 8 2006, 07:59 AM
http://www.soccernet.com/design05/DJ/20060305/jose_pc.jpg

wonder if he shoock is hand???
lol it was obvious from that pick ronnie wasnt extending his hand to mourinho, it was to the guy behing mourinho who had his hand out too
anyways the penalty was not a penalty and as i expected mourinho said barca can tbeat us when we have 11 players for 90 minutes
what a ****
he said the best team didnt go through

Força Barça
Mar 8 2006, 08:11 AM
Torrents are up in the HL section!! go get them & frame them!!:clap

kw8e
Mar 8 2006, 09:17 AM
I think he did imagine that in his mind!! Rijkaard although showing calm most of the time is also a firey, *****...does anyone remember him as player...he was tough as a motha fvcker, maybe he has changed but I think he takes pills to depress his alter ego.

I think he has a joint before the game :cool

zib
Mar 8 2006, 09:38 AM
You guys like my new sig?

mhrelayyan
Mar 8 2006, 09:53 AM
Very Nice , Haaaaahaaaaaa

Barça009
Mar 8 2006, 09:54 AM
:laugh, thats great.

MasterC*nt :laugh

kw8e
Mar 8 2006, 09:56 AM
You guys like my new sig?

Brilliant :laugh :laugh :laugh Good luck tonight !!

carlito_m
Mar 8 2006, 10:22 AM
I really feel for Mourinho and Chelski, its bad enough going out of the CL but it is even harder to take when Chelski were by far the better team over both games! People you all saw what happend when it was 11 v 11, Chelski were outplaying us with ease, as they did in part of the 1st leg. . I dont think we will ever beat Chelski with 11 v 11, we will always need a dodgy cheating ref to help us. If we go on to win the CL I for one will NOT celebrate it - how can I when Chelski are far superior to us(when 11v11 only). I agree with Mourinhos policy of not recognising results when he believes Chelski have been hard done by - I have managed to block out Liverpools semi win last year and replaced it with memories of a magical Lampard inspired comeback for Chelski in Istanbul complete with wobbly knees Cech. It is a shame UEFA can not follow suit and do the same. I think if any team has a player sent off and the other teams go on to win the game should be replayed. Perhaps Sky can lobby UEFA for this... Can you Sky?.... Please can you? Like you did with Esssien. Can you please.......? You have the prestige. Can you please.......... :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

Killah
Mar 8 2006, 11:03 AM
Well I'm delighted with that but the commentators made a mistake. They said the best player in the world just scored against Chelsea but Henry doesn't play for Barca. Not yet at least.

That's about as retarded as the time you tried convincing everyone you were a "tough guy"

Super Pibe #7
Mar 8 2006, 03:43 PM
was partying all night lol

barca have shown that you can win with style.

the defence had a great game and marquez was awesome:bowing :bowing ,oleguer loving the tricks to duff,gio was awesome as well
shame puyol is suspended next game.

motta out muscled the chelsea team.

dinho has great balance.terry tryed to barge him and he just bounced of dinho

shame about the messi injury:(

Killah
Mar 8 2006, 05:11 PM
check out Mou, the Cvnt.

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3794/maureen25ap.gif

Super Pibe #7
Mar 8 2006, 05:14 PM
:laugh :laugh

Força Barça
Mar 8 2006, 05:23 PM
check out Mou, the Cvnt.

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3794/maureen25ap.gif

He is a fvcking disgrace for the human kind....what an moron I hope UEFA sees this...cant you send this to Lennart Johasson Killah?!:laugh

Barcino
Mar 8 2006, 06:15 PM
Mou's post match comments:

http://home.skysports.com/broadband.asp?showclip=yes

Força Barça
Mar 8 2006, 06:36 PM
Mou's post match comments:

http://home.skysports.com/broadband.asp?showclip=yes
:salute:salute:salute:salute:salute:salute:salute: salute:salute:salute:salute

kw8e
Mar 8 2006, 06:43 PM
check out Mou, the Cvnt.

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3794/maureen25ap.gif

:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh :laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh

zib
Mar 9 2006, 01:37 AM
check out Mou, the Cvnt.

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3794/maureen25ap.gif
UEFA should charge him for that. He's basically saying the ref is a ****er. What a fu(king cvnt. Man you guys don't know how much i hate him. I swear if i was in England, i'd go to a Chelski match and sniper him. :devil

Will he be charged? Of course not coz he'll send the Russian KGB to take UEFA out if they do.

Having spent so much money in two seasons and no CL final let alone winning it, i'm pretty sure the Russian boss ain't too happy about his return. Yeah he's gonna get 2 EPL titles on the trot but to be the best, you gotta beat the best and the only way you're gonna be the best is to win the CL. Hang on, it's 3 seasons now ain't it? :laugh

Killah
Mar 9 2006, 01:39 AM
nah, that's not his hand, it's one of the portuguese members on here tossing him off, albeit not doing a very good job of it.

zib
Mar 9 2006, 01:41 AM
It is him doing it?

Fins Prompte
Mar 9 2006, 01:42 AM
well he probably will get to do it more often whenever he is watching the CL.

such class.

BanRay
Mar 9 2006, 05:06 AM
Hang on, it's 3 seasons now ain't it? :laugh


Yeah, but Ranieri was in charge during the first one.

Dragonlord
Mar 9 2006, 07:59 PM
Woulda been an utterly boring game without Ronaldinho
10 samba dances out of 10 for him. Well done.

I havent ever seen Olguer play like that ever either. He put in the best performance of his life in this match. Lets hope if 'Kaard plays him he can dish out a few more like that.

Killah
Mar 10 2006, 04:27 AM
PETR CECH is still in denial after Chelsea’s Champions League exit.

And the crazy Czech keeper is even refusing to give Ronaldinho credit for the wonder goal that helped Barcelona dump the Blues at the Nou Camp on Tuesday.

Amazingly, Cech, 23, said: “The only reason I didn’t stop Ronaldinho’s shot was because it was deflected — otherwise I would have got to it.

“Ronaldinho is an amazing player but even he couldn’t take aim and place it because he closed his eyes as he used all his power to try to hammer it.

“But his shot took a deflection so, instead of going to my right, it changed direction and went to my left.

“That meant I could do nothing but help the ball on its way into the net as it was diverted past me.

“And given the state of the match at that time, it was pretty much the winning goal.

“So that deflection was worth an awful lot.”

However, telly replays clearly show the goal did NOT take a deflection and was no fluke.
*

The last-16 second-leg clash ended 1-1 and the Catalans went through 3-2 on aggregate.

Yet Cech still refuses to admit the better team won. He added: “I am so sad that we went out of the Champions League like that because we have a great team.

“But I know we left the battle with our heads held high and that is important for all of us.

ha ha, pr1ck.

C
Mar 10 2006, 04:36 AM
the arrogance and ignorance is trickling down from mourinho to his players. cech is a top class keeper but hes gotta admit an obvious class goal

Força Barça
Mar 10 2006, 09:48 AM
PETR CECH is still in denial after Chelsea’s Champions League exit.

And the crazy Czech keeper is even refusing to give Ronaldinho credit for the wonder goal that helped Barcelona dump the Blues at the Nou Camp on Tuesday.

Amazingly, Cech, 23, said: “The only reason I didn’t stop Ronaldinho’s shot was because it was deflected — otherwise I would have got to it.

“Ronaldinho is an amazing player but even he couldn’t take aim and place it because he closed his eyes as he used all his power to try to hammer it.

“But his shot took a deflection so, instead of going to my right, it changed direction and went to my left.

“That meant I could do nothing but help the ball on its way into the net as it was diverted past me.

“And given the state of the match at that time, it was pretty much the winning goal.

“So that deflection was worth an awful lot.”

However, telly replays clearly show the goal did NOT take a deflection and was no fluke.
*

The last-16 second-leg clash ended 1-1 and the Catalans went through 3-2 on aggregate.

Yet Cech still refuses to admit the better team won. He added: “I am so sad that we went out of the Champions League like that because we have a great team.

“But I know we left the battle with our heads held high and that is important for all of us.

ha ha, pr1ck.

It doesnt matter you ***** cause you let in the goal deflected or not. Your arse can only win the boring Premier League.
Sore sore losers all of them!!

kw8e
Mar 10 2006, 02:46 PM
Well denial is the 1st stage of grief, and if he's still there....guess it's gonna take Cech a while to reach Acceptance.

Striker
Mar 10 2006, 04:29 PM
check out Mou, the Cvnt.

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3794/maureen25ap.gif

Actually, he is showing that the linesman dont stop to call offsides and keeps lifting his flag all day long..

This gif was speeded up.. I have the original one

Barça009
Mar 10 2006, 04:31 PM
The guy on the left seems to be sprinkling some sort of magic powder...

Fins Prompte
Mar 10 2006, 06:41 PM
left the battle heads held high? I thought they stopped getting players using drugs after Mutu and that aussie gk