.: Champions League :.

[woz1m]

who do u think will win it this year !?

obviously bein a united supporter i think we have a strong chance of doing it !

but wht do YOU think ? :(

[orswich]

Man U has a strong case.. but Milan and Real Madrid are favourites..

also dont count out valencia, dortmund or barcelona...

[Paisley]

FC Basle :devil :ph34r:

[Mark]

AC Milan, Arsenal or Valencia

[Zizou]

As usual you guys are forgetting Juventus :P :salute

Milan won't win it cos they'll focus on the league.

For me it's Juventus, Man Utd or Arsenal

[Slug]

juve, inter, ac milan, barca, valencia or real !
definately not arsenal or utd.. and orswich, i dont think dortmund have enough world class players to win it !

[woz1m]

Originally posted by Zizou@Jan 21 2003, 09:43 AM
As usual you guys are forgetting Juventus :P :salute

Milan won't win it cos they'll focus on the league.

For me it's Juventus, Man Utd or Arsenal
i guees well be seing you soon then !!!

[Mark]

definately not arsenal or utd.. bitter cause you're out eh Dougie ;)

[Red]

HE HE HE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you guy's are forgetting AFC Ajax Amsterdam

:D :D :D :D :D :D

[soccerchic]

Originally posted by Dougie_LFC@Jan 22 2003, 03:39 AM
juve, inter, ac milan, barca, valencia or real !
definately not arsenal or utd.. and orswich, i dont think dortmund have enough world class players to win it !
that's what they said about bayer leverkusen but they almost won it

[sharok]

I am going for Valencia, Juve, Newcastle, or Dortmond. But as to who I think will win, I have to go with AC Milan, Valenica, and Man U. Valencia need to get back in form after the break, and Man U needs to keep it up. Remember Dortmund won it a few years ago. So don't count them out just yet.

[Henry_is_the_greatest]

arsenal or ac milan will win it hopefully arsenal

[Footy Fanatic]

would love it if man united won it at old trafford, we've got quite a good chance of making it to the quarters :D then will just have to see what happens.

[Van Der Vaart 23]

I think it'll be Real Madrid (again).....

Outsiders:
AC Milan

Valencia
Arsenal

I think it'll be one of these teams, but Real are the real favourites too me. AC Milan can be very dangerous and Valencia and Arsenal can also become a threat to Real.
I don't think the other teams stand a chance against Real.

I hope there'll be a miracle and that AJAX AMSTERDAM is going to win it, ah well dreams......... :rolleyes:

[Zizou]

May I remind all those that say RM are unbeatable and that they will most surely win the CL...

Milan 6pts
Borussia Dortmund 3pts
Lokomotiv Moscow 1pt
Real Madrid 1pt

And don't forget they still got away games to Dortmund and Moscow (I'm sure they'll have probs playing in that cold, especially since most of their players are brazilians, spanish, etc who are used to heat).

If RM slip up in their next game (home) against Dortmund, they would have one foot out of the CL.

If I'm not mistaken, RM haven't won a CL game from their last 7 games. Very bad run for someone wanting to win the CL. Nah they won't win it.

[Jere Markus]

Have to go with VDV23 on this one:

Outsiders:
AC Milan

Valencia
Arsenal


I agree with this.

Dortmund is not good enough. Barca is a mess. ManUnited.. well, not this season. Inter or Juventus - maybe an outside shot, don´t count them totally out. Lately Valencia has lost form though, we´ll see what happens. I think Arse will win their group and Valencia is 2nd.

[Zizou]

Milan won;t win it cos they will focus on the Serie A ;)

[andymc93]

favorites have to be real, utd and barcelona although id f***** hate it if the mancs won at old trafford

[Jimmy]

Valencia, Arsenal or us for me. B)

[Mark]

Originally posted by andymc93@Jan 29 2003, 01:46 PM
favorites have to be real, utd and barcelona although id f***** hate it if the mancs won at old trafford
you'd hate it if we won full stop ;) Anyway I think United would need a tremendous amount of luck to win it this year, in terms of the draw, How Depor and Juve games go etc

[footie_master]

real gonna win the cl, no doubt about it. they have one of the best teams around although they got hammered in their last match and lost wirh 4-0.

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Zizou@Jan 27 2003, 11:39 AM
May I remind all those that say RM are unbeatable and that they will most surely win the CL...

Milan 6pts
Borussia Dortmund 3pts
Lokomotiv Moscow 1pt
Real Madrid 1pt

And don't forget they still got away games to Dortmund and Moscow (I'm sure they'll have probs playing in that cold, especially since most of their players are brazilians, spanish, etc who are used to heat).

If RM slip up in their next game (home) against Dortmund, they would have one foot out of the CL.

If I'm not mistaken, RM haven't won a CL game from their last 7 games. Very bad run for someone wanting to win the CL. Nah they won't win it.
Real certainly didn't have a good start, but I always have the feeling that once they play with all their best players and they try their best, they're almost unbeatable. I would really love it if Real Madrid goes out in 2nd phase, but I don't think it'll happen...

[footie_master]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 1 2003, 12:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 1 2003, 12:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Zizou@Jan 27 2003, 11:39 AM
May I remind all those that say RM are unbeatable and that they will most surely win the CL...

Milan 6pts
Borussia Dortmund&nbsp; 3pts
Lokomotiv Moscow 1pt
Real Madrid 1pt

And don't forget they still got away games to Dortmund and Moscow (I'm sure they'll have probs playing in that cold, especially since most of their players are brazilians, spanish, etc who are used to heat).

If RM slip up in their next game (home) against Dortmund, they would have one foot out of the CL.

If I'm not mistaken, RM haven't won a CL game from their last 7 games. Very bad run for someone wanting to win the CL. Nah they won't win it.
Real certainly didn't have a good start, but I always have the feeling that once they play with all their best players and they try their best, they're almost unbeatable. I would really love it if Real Madrid goes out in 2nd phase, but I don't think it'll happen... [/b][/quote]
yeah, think if real is gettin in form just before the cl. But if the dont compete in the cl and the dont pass the 2nd phase than who cares. Maybe it better to see an another club winning the cl.

[pyrtas]

I just hope it won`t be Real Madrid.

Arsenal will win. or Milan

[Excelsior]

Top favourites: FC Barcelona, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Man Utd
Might get a chance of winning it: Inter, Valencia, AC Milan, Borussia Dortmund, Deportivo, Juventus
Unlikely, but possible: Newcastle, AS Roma
Not a chance: Ajax, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Basel

[Jere Markus]

Top favourites: FC Barcelona, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Man Utd
Might get a chance of winning it: Inter, Valencia, AC Milan, Borussia Dortmund, Deportivo, Juventus
Unlikely, but possible: Newcastle, AS Roma
Not a chance: Ajax, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Basel

Top favourites: Milan, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Valencia
Unlikely, but possible: Deportivo, Juventus, Inter
Not a chance: Ajax, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Basel, Barca, Newcastle, AS Roma, Borussia Dortmund

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Jere Markus@Feb 26 2003, 04:48 PM
Top favourites: FC Barcelona, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Man Utd
Might get a chance of winning it: Inter, Valencia, AC Milan, Borussia Dortmund, Deportivo, Juventus
Unlikely, but possible: Newcastle, AS Roma
Not a chance: Ajax, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Basel

Top favourites: Milan, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Valencia
Unlikely, but possible: Deportivo, Juventus, Inter
Not a chance: Ajax, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Basel, Barca, Newcastle, AS Roma, Borussia Dortmund
Top favourits: Real Madrid, AC Milan, Arsenal, Valencia, Man Utd

Might have a chance of winning it: Juventus, Inter, Barcelona

Unlikely, but possible: AJAX, Deportivo, Dortmund

Not a chance: Newcastle, Lok. Moscow, Basle, AS Roma, Leverkusen

[Novio]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 26 2003, 08:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 26 2003, 08:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Jere Markus@Feb 26 2003, 04:48 PM
Top favourites: FC Barcelona, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Man Utd
Might get a chance of winning it: Inter, Valencia, AC Milan, Borussia Dortmund, Deportivo, Juventus
Unlikely, but possible: Newcastle, AS Roma
Not a chance: Ajax, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Basel

Top favourites: Milan, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Valencia
Unlikely, but possible: Deportivo, Juventus, Inter
Not a chance: Ajax, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Basel, Barca, Newcastle, AS Roma, Borussia Dortmund
Top favourits: Real Madrid, AC Milan, Arsenal, Valencia, Man Utd

Might have a chance of winning it: Juventus, Inter, Barcelona

Unlikely, but possible: AJAX, Deportivo, Dortmund

Not a chance: Newcastle, Lok. Moscow, Basle, AS Roma, Leverkusen [/b][/quote]
pffff. Ajax a chance of winning it..

Dreaaaaaaaaamsss dreams, dreams, dreams.... :salute

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Novio+Feb 27 2003, 12:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Novio @ Feb 27 2003, 12:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 26 2003, 08:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 26 2003, 08:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Jere Markus@Feb 26 2003, 04:48 PM
Top favourites: FC Barcelona, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Man Utd
Might get a chance of winning it: Inter, Valencia, AC Milan, Borussia Dortmund, Deportivo, Juventus
Unlikely, but possible: Newcastle, AS Roma
Not a chance: Ajax, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Basel

Top favourites: Milan, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Valencia
Unlikely, but possible: Deportivo, Juventus, Inter
Not a chance: Ajax, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Basel, Barca, Newcastle, AS Roma, Borussia Dortmund
Top favourits: Real Madrid, AC Milan, Arsenal, Valencia, Man Utd

Might have a chance of winning it: Juventus, Inter, Barcelona

Unlikely, but possible: AJAX, Deportivo, Dortmund

Not a chance: Newcastle, Lok. Moscow, Basle, AS Roma, Leverkusen [/b][/quote]
pffff. Ajax a chance of winning it..

Dreaaaaaaaaamsss dreams, dreams, dreams.... :salute [/b][/quote]
Yeah, it's unlikely, but it's possible!!!

[Mark]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 26 2003, 11:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 26 2003, 11:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Novio+Feb 27 2003, 12:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Novio @ Feb 27 2003, 12:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 26 2003, 08:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 26 2003, 08:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Jere Markus@Feb 26 2003, 04:48 PM
Top favourites: FC Barcelona, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Man Utd
Might get a chance of winning it: Inter, Valencia, AC Milan, Borussia Dortmund, Deportivo, Juventus
Unlikely, but possible: Newcastle, AS Roma
Not a chance: Ajax, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Basel

Top favourites: Milan, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Valencia
Unlikely, but possible: Deportivo, Juventus, Inter
Not a chance: Ajax, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Basel, Barca, Newcastle, AS Roma, Borussia Dortmund
Top favourits: Real Madrid, AC Milan, Arsenal, Valencia, Man Utd

Might have a chance of winning it: Juventus, Inter, Barcelona

Unlikely, but possible: AJAX, Deportivo, Dortmund

Not a chance: Newcastle, Lok. Moscow, Basle, AS Roma, Leverkusen [/b][/quote]
pffff. Ajax a chance of winning it..

Dreaaaaaaaaamsss dreams, dreams, dreams.... :salute [/b][/quote]
Yeah, it's unlikely, but it's possible!!! [/b][/quote]
Novio sounds just a tad jealous don't you think ;)

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Mark@Feb 27 2003, 01:10 AM
Novio sounds just a tad jealous don't you think ;)
Yep, sad but true... :rolleyes:

I guess AJAX was lucky tonight, weren't we Novio, Tanghe, Excelsior and all the other anti-AJAX fans here??? :salute

[Zizou]

That group is really interesting, all teams can still qualify.

[Ajax&#33;_Seb]

And Ajax is leading after 4 rounds of play. If they can force a tie in the next game at home vs. Valencia, they're getting really close!

[Zizou]

Ajax have to win against Valencia and they'll be qualified, otherwise a draw or loss against Ajax might complicate things, seeing how an away game against Roma might be quite tricky.

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Zizou@Feb 27 2003, 12:25 PM
Ajax have to win against Valencia and they'll be qualified, otherwise a draw or loss against Ajax might complicate things, seeing how an away game against Roma might be quite tricky.
AJAX's game against Valencia is crucial!

If we win, we're qualified, if we lose, we're probably out!

If we lose against Valencia, we would still have 6 pts, Valencia would have 8 and since I believe Arsenal will win against Roma, Arsenal would have 9 than. If this occurs AJAX is out, since Arsenal and Valencia would only have to draw in the last match to go through. Since they play against eachother they'll probably make an agreement and play 1-1 or something..

So AJAX must definitely not lose against Valencia! I think AJAX has to play the same way as against Arsenal, in that way we have a chance of winning..

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 27 2003, 04:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 27 2003, 04:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Mark@Feb 27 2003, 01:10 AM
Novio sounds just a tad jealous don't you think ;)
Yep, sad but true... :rolleyes:

I guess AJAX was lucky tonight, weren't we Novio, Tanghe, Excelsior and all the other anti-AJAX fans here??? :salute [/b][/quote]
No, Arsenal played bad yesterday. Normally they could defeat you (and every other Dutch team) easily when you look at those players. But unfortunately they didn't play good. :angry:

[Jere Markus]

Zizou, don´t you think BARCELONA - especially after their display against Inter - is sooooooooo

OVERRATED

Barca :salute

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Excelsior+Feb 27 2003, 03:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Excelsior @ Feb 27 2003, 03:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 27 2003, 04:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 27 2003, 04:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Mark@Feb 27 2003, 01:10 AM
Novio sounds just a tad jealous don't you think ;)
Yep, sad but true... :rolleyes:

I guess AJAX was lucky tonight, weren't we Novio, Tanghe, Excelsior and all the other anti-AJAX fans here??? :salute [/b][/quote]
No, Arsenal played bad yesterday. Normally they could defeat you (and every other Dutch team) easily when you look at those players. But unfortunately they didn't play good. :angry: [/b][/quote]
Haven't you considerd that it might have been because of AJAX that Arsenal played that bad... :rolleyes:

:salute

[Jere Markus]

I respect Ajax and mostly it´s because they have OVERACHIEVED espectations already.

In comparison Real Madrid and Juventus have totally UNDER ACHIEVED.. in other words, their millionaires are playing pathetic.

[fenderplm]

Originally posted by Jere Markus@Feb 27 2003, 03:00 PM
Not a chance: Ajax, Lokomotiv Moscow, FC Basel, Barca, Newcastle, AS Roma, Borussia Dortmund




Zizou, don´t you think BARCELONA - especially after their display against Inter - is sooooooooo

OVERRATED

Barca :salute
:D



Maybe you hate Barça because the last time Barça played against Arsenal, we won on your own stadium 2-4 :D :salute

[Zizou]

I think Barco showed what a crap team Inter are and how much Vieri dependent they are. Hope Barca and Newcastle pass.

[Mark]

Originally posted by Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 27 2003, 03:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 27 2003, 03:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Excelsior+Feb 27 2003, 03:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Excelsior @ Feb 27 2003, 03:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Van Der Vaart 23+Feb 27 2003, 04:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Van Der Vaart 23 @ Feb 27 2003, 04:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Mark@Feb 27 2003, 01:10 AM
Novio sounds just a tad jealous don't you think ;)
Yep, sad but true... :rolleyes:

I guess AJAX was lucky tonight, weren't we Novio, Tanghe, Excelsior and all the other anti-AJAX fans here??? :salute [/b][/quote]
No, Arsenal played bad yesterday. Normally they could defeat you (and every other Dutch team) easily when you look at those players. But unfortunately they didn't play good. :angry: [/b][/quote]
Haven't you considerd that it might have been because of AJAX that Arsenal played that bad... :rolleyes:

:salute [/b][/quote]
you want him to give your team credit? no chance unfortunately, stubborn as f*** ;)

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Zizou@Feb 27 2003, 08:16 PM
I think Barco showed what a crap team Inter are and how much Vieri dependent they are. Hope Barca and Newcastle pass.
I think they depend more on Crespo in CL, since Vieri hasn't scored in the CL for the last 5 years... :o :o :o

[Zizou]

Vieri has not scored in the CL since the 1996/97 season (scored 4 or 5 goals for Juve), but since then this is his first CL campaign. Crespo is out till mid april so he will miss the last 2 games, therefore it's all on Vieri's shoulders.

[Van Der Vaart 23]

Originally posted by Zizou@Feb 28 2003, 12:42 AM
Vieri has not scored in the CL since the 1996/97 season (scored 4 or 5 goals for Juve), but since then this is his first CL campaign.
Didn't know that! Didn't he play in CL with Lazio??

[Zizou]

Vieri is infamous for changing teams, and he didn't stay longer than 1 year with most clubs. Only Inter seem to have held him, though 2 years ago he was VERY close to rejoin juve.

I think he was with Lazio the season before they won the league (the one they lost in the last league match).